>weeeeelllllllllllll it's not my fault the game is at a freefall the gaijin just aren't paying
>a couple more mounts added to the mogstation will be fine
what's the solution here?

Have you noticed they've ramped up the merch releases ever since DT launched? They know the game is the worst its ever been but rather than put the effort into making it better to get subs back, they're trying to offset those losses by milking the diehard playerbase with more merch.

Remove Dancer from the game. Nobody plays it but shitters, women, and fags.

>>713498124
Schizo

>>713497978 (OP)
He will need to kill Barry.

>>713497978 (OP)
>what's the solution here?

>>713498195
I hate how femoid coded it is
I want an animation set for males that is just disco moves

>>713497978 (OP)
>mounts
hope he likes getting sued by nintendo

>>713498676
NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T ASK FOR RPG ELEMENTS IN AN RPG YOU NEED TO BE PLAYING WITH MODEL TRAINS INSTEAD!!!!

>>713497978 (OP)
There is no solution. XIV will become a zombie game just like WoW and it will be artificially maintained. At the very least it became one after major story beats have been resolved.

>>713497978 (OP)
Remove the leveling and just start you with all the skills.
Make jobs less diverse to make it easier for people to transition.
Remove materia slots from equipment and make everything more uniform.

>>713498124
>since dt launched
anon it's been like this for a while

>>713498684
I know right? I seriously considered using my free fantasia to change my chadlander to any female because it just looked too fucking gay.

>>713498967
Well if sportskeeda says it's good, who am I to argue?

so why did Eureka take till it was super-nerfed in SHB to become popular?

>>713498967
>>713499074

>>713498124
>ramped up the merch releases ever since DT launched
Since EW launch*

>>713498676
I don't think a single person in that studio knows how to make an RPG. All they can do is twitch reflex savage combat.

WEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLL ITS THE BIG SHOW!

>>713499230
>knows how to make an RPG
adding in a dating sim would be a nice first start. since we been asking for it since 2.0 launch

>want to ERP
>there's ANOTHER emergency maintenance
Where the fuck am I gonna ERP now...

From the screenshots they showed of the next dungeon in the live letter i'm pretty sure we're going to get ANOTHER "look into the antagonist's tragic past" dungeon and at this point i just have to wonder how this is happening. Surely someone involved must know that repeating it this many times is bound to come out as cheap and lame, right?

What's the next step is YoshiP's plan?

>>713499369
its the meso terminal right? i imagine it'll be about the same flavor as the alexandria dungeon

also, i'm disappointed in myself that i never put two and two together with the statue in living memory

>>713499369
>From the screenshots they showed of the next dungeon in the live letter i'm pretty sure we're going to get ANOTHER "look into the antagonist's tragic past" dungeon
What's funnier is it's even in the same fucking place as the 7.0 final dungeon. It's a memory in the Meso Terminal like Alexandria was, except this time it's Treno. It's incredible.
And you know what I just realized? All these fucking memory dungeons... and none of them use the Echo except, arguably, Baron.

>>713498908
>>713499215
They've always sold knick knacks and cross promotion stuff, but they've been putting them out more and more. ffs yoshi just shilled those ear clasps the twins have during the last liveletter.

Add sex with Alisaie

make it cheaper to sub

>>713499436

will /ourguy/ finally get his time to shine?

>>713499454
Well yeah why would the Echo be able to interface with the Meso Terminal data? It's actual data that's physically projected and not the aether of someone like the memoria crystals with memories you can "jump" into.

>>713499594
>It's actual data that's physically projected and not the aether of someone
Did you skip Origenics?

you've angered the XIfags. and don't you worry, they have plenty of time to shitpost in between Thundaga III casts and waiting for the scrubby dragoon to get enough TP to open Distortion

>>713499570
>went into forked tower tonight
>spend the entire time listening to the most horrid deflating balloon clown tranny voice you can possibly imagine
>he wasn't even doing fucking callouts or anything, he was just talking for no reason

>>713498195
Thettle down thweetheart.

>>713499664
a dark knight and a dragoon walk into a bar. the dark knight pulled threat, the dragoon missed

>>713499712
Mayakov IS a fag though.

>>713498195
Nah, DNC is one of the few actually fun jobs to play since its gimmick is essentially
>Free movement
>DDR-lite with face buttons

It's one of the few jobs were the standard optimization of uptime, timing and positioning actually feels baked into the jobs kit instead of it being counter intuitive like one PLD or MNK.

gear being meaningless is a good first step. i hope all raiding becomes glamour only

>>713497978 (OP)
What really irked me is during the last livestream he said 'maybe we made chest rewards too good,' referencing Eureka. This was during Yoship discussing feedback about OC and how everyone is complaining that the rewards suck.

>>713499781
and our archivist is all set up. he'll be doing it manually all night, wish him luck

>>713499619
I just assumed the way souls got processed changed them on some fundamental level.

>>713497978 (OP)
>>713497978 (OP)
>what's the solution here?
make more threads with yoshitpiss crying

its a nothing burger that will be perpetuated by idiots who believe what they say

>>713498195
Why the fuck was dancer made into a dps job? It would've made far more sense as a healer job.

>>713497978 (OP)
Is that THE dead MMO Fino Fanto 14's lead director Yoshi of the P?

>>713499358
I think that would actually completely bloat the budget for the game. If you want to make it good you'd need to
>get an assload of voice acting in 4 different languages
>lots and lots and lots of cutscenes
>somehow manage to not make it looks incredibly stiff because you have to accomodate for someone being a lalafell (maybe circumvent that by having lalafell only date lalafell npcs...?)
>come up with ways your husbando/waifu can interact with you: have them play mini games in the gold saucer with you, lets them adventure in the overworld with you etc..
>you have to do the above for every single potential date

That doesn't even account for the entitlement issue that would cause: Let's say the dating content is introduced and you get to date the Scions minus twins. At that point people would be begging for every single new NPC to become dateable. If they do it, they need to find a way to monetise it.
I would have the dating content be completely mute and you'd have to buy voice packs for each character for $30 bucks or something like that.

Unironically all of the pieces are there, they just need to apply them properly.

-Regular dogshit 4-man dungeons? Replace literally, and I mean /literally/ every single one of them with a Variant Dungeon equivalent. The same 2-boss run(unless you guys specifically do a route with 3 bosses) that has the same guided NPC path that gives you slightly more loot if you follow them. You'll be incentivized to do a little interaction to see which path you want to go down, but then make it quicker to clear and provide rewards for hitting every single one so that it's not mind-numbingly wasting your time like present Variant Dungeons. You can even combine present dungeon series into Variant Dungeons.

-Revamp all fields in all zones into being closer to Field Operation zones, with specific unique FATEs and regional superbosses being poppable through farming specific field enemies and grant appropriate rewards for clears and certain setbacks for failure to clear. You can also include Pomanders as regular items to use in the field to modify your time out on the road. Inccreased enemy spawns? Specific enemy spawns? Treasures that Treasure Maps can't find on their own? Petrifying the whole map at once? All fair game.

-Bring back Job Identity by using all of those Job-specific skills inside of PvP and integrating those special skills inside of Field Operation areas into subjobs or some kind of mix-and-match tray you can devote a hotbar to. You can also just take the general 1-2-3 skills and put them into one single slot so you can fit more varied actions in their place, as well as making subclasses simply swap out specific skills in order to reduce button bloat and instead increase variance in each button on your hotbar.

-Give MIN and BTN a Deep Sea Fishing equivalent

-Make Frontline a 1v1 faction mode or make Rival Wings an option for PvP Duty Roulette

-Increase the number of games in Gold Saucer and the amount of ways to earn MGP

There, entire fucking game fixed.

>>713499875
It would have been better as a healer, but DNC is traditionally a debuffer damage class.

>>713497978 (OP)
He should bring on Tanaka as a consultant, steal his ideas(AGAIN) then fire him so he gets all the credit for them(AGAIN).

>>713499839

>>713499702
I am dreading this. Why didn't they make it a raid you queue into.

>>713499538
Hey BUDDY, thats my WIFE your talking about!

>>713499702
Didn't you say you were unsubscribed for months a week ago?
Which grift are you running with attention whore?

>>713500031
What the fuck are you even talking about man?

>>713499436
Acrifi trans hobes to salan?

>>713500012
What's going on here?

>>713499756
Naw nigga just fruity

7.2 would have been considered a solid patch if they didn't fuck up the last raid for OC. If it was a normal difficulty raid that you can feasibly clear with a group naturally forming in OC things would have been peachy. Put it at pre nerf Orbonne difficulty and everyone minus content creators would be happy. But nope, Mr. Ozma just had to make it savage again and now everyone is upset.

>>713500072
You don't play the game

>>713500224
I just did Forked Tower two hours ago though.

I haven't played the last two patches, I just haven't been able to bring up the willpower to deal with Wuk Lamat bullshit again.

>>713500072
he thinks you're me

I love the art direction, bring back the fantasy

>>713500328
I don't even see how. The Krile image I assumed he freaked out about has only been used 5 times since DT launch and there's nothing about unsubbing.

i took my fiddie on a femlala vacation and it's been a cute ride

>>713500072
he thinks i'm you

Haven't played since endwalker dropped, did I miss anything important?

>>713500414
Once you go lala we don't want you back

>>713500414
My Ravabull's gonna rearrange this whore's guts

>>713500392
Why are people so autistic in these threads to always check how often images have been posted?

>>713500469
I wanted to know why he schizzed out at me.

>>713497978 (OP)
I feel like they should lay off the mogstation shit for a little bit for PR safety

>>713500469
because there are 2-3 autists who think they are sherlock holmes and the archive is their proof that everyone is the same person

>>713500432
Missed some pretty decent memes with the latest raid tier.

>>713500512

is this the thread?

>>713500517
isnt that thing just the ramuh bird? boring...

>>713500645
No lmao it's like an actual add phase with kill orders and CC

>>713499819
I saw that and thought he had a fucking nerve. This from the man who promised at Pax East last year that 7.3 they were going to expand the rewards by 50% as their way to 'give back to the players' and then I hear in the live letter he's talking about the rewards in the chests for OC they're giving are too good.
This guy, this fucking guy. I can understand if he forgets something he said during a meeting he probably has countless of those but he said it during a live presentation on stage in front of hundreds of thousands of live viewers. What the fuck?

Unsubbed since the expansion, but it's fun to see that the ozma discord shitfest garbage is back.
I remember my Ozma mount run, joining some random discord.

>"O-Okay so I-I-i.-I_iI'm doing the CC-ca-ac-a-c-accalls today, sorry if it's bad... I have a speech impediment...." Said the weakest, nerdiest voice I've ever had the displeasure of hearing.
>I instantly mute discord, the raid wipes anyway because he fucks up a call that throws people off the instance at Ozma

What a ride.

>>713500645
it's lame don't worry about it

>>713500771
so moogle until they ruined it

Man I'm so lucky my BA run was really clean but I think Aether actually has it ran like a business.

>>713500414
change back
I am not asking

>>713500469
>>713500516
I don't understand it either I see an image in the thread that I like I save it and repost it, apparently that makes me the same poster as the Anon who originally posted that reaction image.

>>713498676
>He is still seething over ff16 being different

>>713499927
>-Make Frontline a 1v1 faction mode or make Rival Wings an option for PvP Duty Roulette
Forgot how agonizing the grind was for PVP mounts because it was tied to the roulettes.

>>713500781
>and then I hear in the live letter he's talking about the rewards in the chests for OC they're giving are too good.
What he actually said was that he thought the chest rewards in Eureka and Bozja were too good and it set an unrealistic standard for them to keep up in Occult Crescent chests (which only give Eureka and Bozja rewards). It's still retarded, but a different kind of retarded.

>>713500795
Be honest anon, you wiped the raid because you didn't listen to the call outs

>>713500939
I followed you two schizos going back and forth for this and the previous thread and he's right, what rpg mechanics in ff16? When they got mogged by a first time title by a first time development studio in rpg mechanics (Exp 33) that managed to pull off a party system, weapons, outfits, builds, and an rpg system with passives that ff16 just didn't do that FF came to be known for, yeah he's right CreativeStudio3 don't know how to make an RPG system.

>>713497978 (OP)
You are STILL talking about this guy???

>>713501106
Every day until you rike it.

>>713500963
Damn that's insane for him to say because the entire point of the Foray is a big grind to get loot, gear, and rare items that make it worth the time investment.
I don't even think it's a factor here of them not being able to make cool rewards either that people want, they can but those cool items, emotes and outfits they have made for the last 6 months have all immediately gone straight to the Cash shop and the game getting the cast offs.

Remember even the Hilda hairstyle they charged straight to the cash shop?

>>713501106
Deep inside they love XIV

>>713501051
>He thinks I'm someone who regularly argues over ff16
I think the only schizo here is you.

>>713500939
16 is a lazy man's knockoff of dmc
it being outsold by every actual rpg to come out is just icing on the cake
the "good" part of it, the story, also turns to crap and pisses me off with the shit about mid

>>713501171
As someone who thought ff16 was shit I'm convinced people who say
>Play this instead
Spend more time thinking about ff14/16 than playing other games.
I'm convinced obsessed anger means you still love an ip to death

>>713501171
I think you didn't read the rest of my post and just want an argument.

>>713501218
>I'm convinced obsessed anger means you still love an ip to death
Well yeah, did everyone forget that 'fan' is short for 'fanatic'? I rage so hard over Final Fantasy because I love Final Fantasy and I hate what's happening to it.

>>713501151
Sorry anon emotes, hairstyles, mounts and glams should ONLY be available to savage raiders. Chests gets materia from last expansion, gil and fireworks.
Their contempt for casual players is so fucking puzzling.

>>713499819
Can someone point to a time in the game ever where the rewards were TOO good?

>>713501275
At least the FFV outfits are kino.

>>713501275
one of the strangest things to me is they never made the fireworks shit into permanent emotes
that seems like an almost free way to get some minor good will
at least the ff5 island is the closest thing the game has ever come to being an rpg

>>713501037
No, it was as simple as a
>Go in, go out
Type of a deal IIRC and he just said the opposite.

>>713501218
This. Everyone known as soon as they announce ff17 even if it's a shooter or kart game they will spend more time watching videos, interviews, and discussing it over and over over 90% of the other jrpgs
Look at that magic gathering crap, FF is still popular and people miss FF, the rest are patches until ff comes back

>>713499230
They did it before (poorly), how hard is it to just look at a game like ER that is 90% action and 10% RPG and just copy that?

Seriously, all they need to do is the following
>Remove enrage as a mechanic from 90% of the content (so, pretty much just what normal mode is now) since all it does is push the mentality that DPS is king and everything else is secondary
>Make MP/resource gating the real "timer" that players tries to chase again, it is much more dynamic and allows for more varied play styles without pointing out a clear winning strategy
>Give each stat one main use and one secondary use (STR increases all PHYSICAL damage and armor, DEX increases Skill speed and Crit damage, INT increases all MAGIC damage and MP, MND increases all HEALING done and Spell speed, VIG increases HP and magic res)
>Make each tertiary stat actually useful outside of "deal more DPS but in this specific way", remove every stat that is just "crit but smol" (CRIT is just critchance, TEN increases healing received, PIE increases MP regen, DET either decreases resource costs or increases resource gain)
>You can give each stat (main or secondary) a 2nd or 3rd effect depending on job, TEN could increase block chance for PLD as an example
>Make 90% of gear equip able on almost every job, instead of splitting gear 4 ways just split them 2 ways as necessary (PHYS gear and MAGIC gear
>Make finger/neck/ear gear equip able by ALL jobs again with a few exceptions
>Give each job an extra weapon or two to play with just for the sake of looks and to differentiate each weapon "type" to make them stand out a bit. WAR gets Great axe/Sword where the axe is slower but hits harder and the sword is faster but hits weaker, BLM gets Staves, wands (again) and shields, WHM gets Staves and wands, etc

They had most of this stuff in 2.0, this is essentially just going back towards that but with resistances removed since that was a shitty ass mechanic to begin with.

>>713501273
No, you enjoy being angry. Notice how these last years people LOVE to be mad, it's a sign of low testosterone. Real men would have moved on instead of crying like bitches

>>713501394
Anon we can't have fun game mechanics we need to cater to shit for brain parsers

>>713501231
Yes and
>followed you two schizos going back and forth for this and the previous thread
This isn't me, and yes I don't wanna argue with people over ff16, that well is truly poisoned and filled with schizos that thinks other people who don't agree it's the worst thing ever is a dick rider
>>713501218
They do it's fascinating how obsessed they are

>>713497978 (OP)
they had a chance to save XIV if they had doubled down on banning mods

mods killed raiding
mods killed rp
mods even killed transmog, because people just install mods to get the look they want instead of collecting good looking gear

nobody playing the game has any idea what the person they are talking to or interacting with is seeing, because they might be running mods to make your character nude or have huge tits, or whatever

the type of people playing this game before the modpocalypse really got into full swing liked the idea of what mods could do for the game, gpose seemed need at first...until you started getting stalked by somebody who was posing your character being fucked by dogs and distributing the images, and there is nothing you can do

somebody gposes your male character sucking cock? nothing you can do
somebody puts your lala in a diaper and pacifier? hilarious, but nothing you can do about it

so the game went from being hypersocial and maybe you just need an ok apartment to hyper competitive in every aspect even RP, with you NEEDING to have gpose and a whole profile and social media for your chara to play with anyone talented, and then it got worse and worse until finally the juice wasn't worth the squeeze anymore

>>713500140
Would you please sit down?

>>713499436
they dont believe in god but somehow satan exists

>>713501328
I haven't been subbed, got a pic?

>>713501394
Rework the materia system so instead of melding gear you meld your soul crystal.
Each node you pick has meaningful differences that can change up your playstyle like say PCT's Holy having a chance to trigger an instant cast Rainbow Drip or MNK getting its phantom job skills.
Have each node cost a certain amount of materia to unlock if you want to keep the actual items in the game, but have an unlock be a permanent and you can just toggle them with a point system to limit what you can pick. More powerful skills cost more points to set of course.

>>713501552

>>713501552
You get baartz, lenna, and faris' outfits, plust beastmaster, cannoneer, and time mage.
The ffv foray is fun but really not worth it to come back, just if you're sticking around for some reason.

>>713501394
Well that does sound neat, however even if there were no DPS checks, guess what's the first thing hardcore players would gravitate towards when deciding how to tackle content?

That's right, speedrunning. DPS is still king baby.

>>713501218
>>713501448
Because people only care about FF. It stopped being turn based over 20 years already but people didn't forget it
Also many ips even popular had shitty games and people would just say
>Holy shit that game is SHIT
And move on, instead of being constantly obsessed over it.
Ask yourself this, do you see more threads about SaGa, DQ, and Kiseki, or do you see more threads about ff14?
The closest to have a real FF was expedition 33 and if they play they cards well (clair Obscure 2-3-4 etc with different universes so people won't have to play 3 games before), but even how good that game is (metaphor was completely forgotten and only used for shitposting whole expedition has people who actually discuss and loved the characters) as soon as the new ff is here people will focus on that.
I think it's because FF concept was the best one (cinematic, semirealistic characters etc).
While Persona 5 resonated more with zoomers and it's a dating sim (not shitting on it here, I consider p5's rival to be bg3 since it relies a lot in dating while I wouldnt want that for next ff and Clair Obscure games)

>>713501670
Sure, they can do that. That's a choice they can make, and I can choose to pick the funner stuff.

>>713498967
>captures that sense of adventure again
What a fucking load of shit.
It never felt worse than now and it was never great in the first place.
You never find anything cool. Everything is a MSQ setpiece at best. You never DO anything cool. Zero variety when it comes to enemy types or quests. Barely any gameplay in the first place.

>>713501684
didn't metaphor sell relatively well

Can we just get another fucking RPG final fantasy already? When was the last time square even gave us a big budget turn based rpg?

>>713501670
sure but that's the ONLY thing that exists in the game
there is no option for anything else

>>713501565
>kicked because I specced SMN wrong

>>713498195
I play it and I'm a heterosexual man.
Its like my 5th most played class out of my 5 main classes though (BLM, WHM PAL SAM DNC)

>>713501730
>You never DO anything cool.
Teaming up with Thancred to rescue Wuk's sorry ass was kinda fun.

>>713501793
You won't even get kicked right now if you do nothing but auto attack. Unless you signed up for a static with certain expectations, then yeah of course.

>>713498684
Yeah it would be a great help
More male focused dancer glams to, the dancer outfits we get could be worse but you can really tell they are designed with the female version in mind and then adjusted for male.

>>713501830
if his new system has meaningful output then yes that will happen.

but no customization will ever go beyond say, 1% variance . i mean, what is the difference between a monk who has optimized materia and hits positionals and one who doesn't

>>713501830
If you hit enrage then it's either disband or don't say shit and just kick the dead weight.

>>713501936
>but no customization will ever go beyond say, 1% variance
pictomancer was leagues above everything else
even the flimsy excuse of "balance" to make everything the same is well out the window
you're only furthering his argument, raidtrannies ruined what little fun could be had in the game

>>713501936
Dude, that doesn't happen in this game. It has never happened. It hasn't even happened in sweatier MMOs like FFXI unless you specifically try to group up with poopsockers. I can go jump into a random PF right now and parse gray on purpose and nobody will say shit.

Since XVI was trash and flopped years ago Yoshida had plenty of time to put all of his focus on XIV and it's only getting worse. Maybe it's time to pull the plug.

>>713501731
Thanks to p5 aesthetics but virtually it was kinda forgotten. For example, oot is considered the best game ever but it sold 6 or 7 millions on n64 then 6 on 3ds, that's less than many other indies but people still talk about those games.
It's the same with FF, they will never reach CoD numbers but people will still talk about the ip.
Hell metaphor still sold more or less the same than ff16, which is probably one of the shittiest ff (I consider it even inferior to 13 sometimes)

>get a huge ass money bag from covid and WoW eating asshole with sneedlands.
>invest 0 (zero) clams in your own game that is the bread winner of the company
>proceed to launch garbage games no one asked for
>2025 have to go through humiliation ritual and say they are running out of money
They deserve to burn

I have the strangest feeling the job rework next xpac isn't going to be reworked at all.

FF14 is shit because there's no organic way to encounter people while you clear the MSQ
i don't think i'll ever capture the magic of WoW barrens again
oh and you can have ERP brothels with lalafell in them but you can't misgender someone
kicker
>if you bring up the wrong kink in the brothel you're gonna have a bad time
>sometimes asking for a lalafell is social suicide

>>713502101
xiv is garbage and should remain the blood from a stone cesspit it is, the people who are still playing deserve that treatment
should put that into actual games like that ff9 remake if it ever exists or a sequel to sop or something

>>713497978 (OP)
This is why, they keep making other games and using the money XIV brings in to do it.

"The remaster of Final Fantasy Tactics, titled Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles, is being developed by Creative Business Unit III at Square Enix. This division is known for its work on various Final Fantasy titles, including Final Fantasy XIV and Final Fantasy XVI."

>>713502112
Did u rike the graphics upgrade that barely did anything?

>>713502112
So you suspect an offhand comment made by Yoshi the hype man who loves hyping shit so much he started hyping the next expansion even before the current one was even released might not be something that should be taken literally?

>>713499912
It would open a lot of possibilities to do content that people already do. Let's say you can take your date wherever you want in the overworld. At some point you unlock a selfie cam/hovering camera. Using the item will put you in a picture mode that lets you pose with your date. The further you are the more pose variations you get: posing, holding hands, hugging, them carrying you/you carrying them, kissing... and now you can take pictures during those animations. Shit people do with mods but... you know... introduce them into the regular game.

>>713502158
almost forgot, everyone are cocksmaxxing twinks or a catgirl with no in between

OK please explain to me why they rushed multiple expansions worth of ideas in Endsharter when they clearly had no plans for anything after it?
They couldve still kept going with plot points from that expansion now while plotting out something more proper.

>>713502227
he's promised a job overhaul to make them fresh and exciting again every expansion since shb
surely 4th time's the charm

>>713502280
Because the original team is done with the game and wanted to move on, that's about all there is to it. They just tied everything up and wiped the slate clean for the new team.

>>713502158
Also they refuse to cut the fat from a lot of cutscenes that is just character standing spamming retarded verbose shit that adds little to the story. Fuck to this WoL just spam basic emotes in the cutscene because there is something unholy in the code that dont allow much tinkering

>>713497978 (OP)
FF should be an rpg. The retard incapable of making a good rpg should not be in charge of the mmo(rpg).

>>713502318
>there is something unholy in the code that dont allow much tinkering
it's called lalafell
the reason you never do shit is because lalafell exist and they had to work for once in their life to have them do anything in the end of EW

>>713502112
Best I can do is a new 1000p nuke on a 120s timer.
Buy my expac.

>>713502397
ANOTHER STEP ADDED TO OUR MELEE COMBO RDMBROS WE EATIN GOOD Y'ALL

>>713502158
This is that MMO stuff thats missing.
You straight up cant run into someone doing something in the world and spend time together naturally because the framework for that doesnt exist.
I play a lot of Ragnarok Online where thats completely the norm. Grouping up speeds up kills speeds up exp and drops so its a given.
Hell even in fucking Cataclysm classic I met some guy in a quest and we raped out two expansions worth of content in one night. Didnt play much with him after that but it was something at least.

The only time I ever had an experience like that in FF14 was in Bozja when I was grinding those coins. I formed a group of people clapping mobs that dropped them and many joined and left naturally and we kept going for many hours. That was nice.

Hey DRK players remember what you class used be in Heavensward? Fuck we can even use Stormblood as baseline. Now look its current state lmao.

>>713502286
Adding another button to the red mage melee combo is gonna be so good.

>>713502376
>its lalas fault you don't interact with characters in cutscenes

the scene THEY don't want you to see (not clickbait)

When is the phone version coming to global? Looks better than the PC one

>>713497978 (OP)
>all this games revenue feeds into SEs other flops
>meanwhile the game it on life support
>lowest numbers since pre EW
>threw all of the goodwill and hype away with DT
how did they blunder this badly?

>>713501968
Waiting a half hour for a raid group only to get kicked for failing a 10-second dps check is the kind of thing that makes it a wonder how MMOs are even still a thing. Imagine paying a monthly fee for that privilege lmao.

>>713502549
Gacha is smarter since many people plays f2p

>>713497978 (OP)
Why are people memeing that they don't have money because people aren't paying?
Isn't it obvious they have the budget if they want, but SE would rather allocate it to other slop like ffxiv mobile?

>>713502521
Japanese boomer CEOs are something else

>>713502483
Yeah, they have 0 shame pandering to those faggots though

>>713499230
1.0 and 2.0 had a lot more RPG elements and the game was significantly worse back then

When the f2p mobile version comes out and they add those player numbers onto the real player number count, and say the game is doing better than ever. Add more trannies!

>>713502521
Matsuda, DEI, and essentially not realizing the world does not care about Global Standards.

>>713502549
>unknowingly participate in some raidloggers raid that doesn't go well
>have profile made for you on raidlog website/tool without your consent
>now whenever you try to go raid you have somebody point out that you are a grey parse and you get kicked or not invited at all, since they have a tool which shows the parse of anyone they mouseover
>interact with this 'system' a couple times
>quit

>>713502637
They are lol. I mean is it any different than our own?

>Y'shtola noped out of the plot the second she realized who is protag
I wanted to reach out for her to take me with her when she left the two times. But it would be too much on brand for her to give you that little smirk and leave, knowing she'll make it up later...

>>713502730
Just register to those websites and hide your logs, no one will know lol

>>713502756
Our CEOs are actively malicious, not retarded.

>>713502606
>>713502181
They put the money and resources into FFT remaster, they learned nothing when they did it with ff16. XIV is going to keep getting starved, cause they know people can't leave.

Why is this thread up 24/7?

If they kill Wuk and Sphene becomes a scion and you and her go on a duo adventure together in 8.0 will it redeem the game?

>>713502806
Ask the Claude plays Pokemon general.

>>713497978 (OP)
>>>/vg/

>>713502836
Fuck at this point I rather have rapture and start a new adventure from 0. Nuke dawntrail and everyone. Just let people have access to cosmetics

>>713502806
Ask Dall-E general

>>713501670
Well that's the thing, speed will always be a big thing that players gravitate towards regardless of content in an MMO since they are supposed to "grind" stuff, grinding only becomes bearable if you minimize the amount of time you spend on it, therefore there is no need for devs to push players towards it since they will ALWAYS move towards it regardless.

What the stat changes does is simply give players the OPTION to play the game a way that they find more engaging regardless of speed, it also allows players to carry more easily.
Just as an example, what if the DRK in the group is an EPIC HARDCORE GAYMORE that ignores everything that isn't "push buttons as quickly as possible while standing perfectly still"? Then a PLD could, for example, use gear that has more Piety and MND on it just so that he can act as a 2nd healer and help the actual healers keep this mouth breather alive, the PLD could also just use gear with more STR and/or VIT depending on the fight which would sacrifice his own DPS but make him tanky enough to swallow tank busters more than once.

If the devs added a few supporting abillities like "If a player with the TANK role taunts another TANK role player they will force the boss/enemy to focus on them until the taunt wears off" then that would mean that all the raid would need is 1 capable tank and a target dummy (with the right builds) to succeed instead of it needing two tanks that aren't glue eaters. It would give agency back to players in a way that makes it both harder and easier for everyone involved.

>>713502806
It's worth money to somebody, same as >>713502849 and >>713502910.

>>713502606
Because Yoshida blamed 'cost' when developing things in the recent liveletter. He also explicitly said that cost did not mean money here but the shitposters aren't gonna let a little thing like the truth stop them even when that truth could be used to shitpost just as effectively.

Is it unironically over?

>>713502849
You don't understand, the chatbot did something funny just now. You see, it did the same thing over and over again for 12 hours straight, mainly kept dumping its FFXIV image folder. Isn't it funny!?

>>713502806
Why are you allowed to have fire emblem generals?

>>713502932
It also enables a way for shitters to meaningfully contribute to a group in ways they can't in the hyper action focused style of combat we have now. If Tommy Two-Fingers can't do a melee rotation to save his life but he can upkeep a buff cycle without worrying too much about his uptime, then he becomes much more useful to the group.

>>713502949
It's not cost it's manpower, they are using the developers to work on other projects. They are working on FFT remaster.

>>713502673
Optimization faggotry seems to have alot of people convinced that training your own attributes and cross class abilities in an RPG is worse than whatever you call this game nowadays.

>>713502730
There are social credit scores for MMOs now? lmao

>>713502806
Why are AI fags allowed to have generals?

>>713502932
>"If a player with the TANK role taunts another TANK role player they will force the boss/enemy to focus on them until the taunt wears off"
Isn't that just Shirk, assuming the other tank has stance on.

>>713503064
Because it advertises nintendo. Meanwhile the ai videos threads were deleted because people were making videos with other games instead

can someone post the pic of the stormblood bitch post on 4chan where its like "Send him to the ball crushing penis machine" "Takes a hit of opium" "my childhood sucked"

It makes me laugh.

>>713502849
Those were pretty damn funny for a bit until the brownoid horde with the AI Zubat porn and shit showed up.

What's the funnest tank?
Someone said GNB earlier and definitely not DRK, why's that

Okay but why was Zooral Ja such an asshole? He seemed to have a pretty good life and I have no idea where his daddy issues (he did have some?) came from. What a weird villain...

>>713500834
it's a bit more complicated.
There are 5 adds:
Mu - Lots of them, need to be tanked
Yan - Every attack is a mini tankbuster, tank needs to hold 2. If the mu and yan come close, the yan gets a 1000% damage buff.
Rays - Tethers to whoever hits them first and then drops area denial puddles. They come in pairs.
Cat - Steals the LB bar, then jumps around and does AOEs that if you get hit reduce your max HP enough so that raidwides kill you, also will enrage if not killed quickly.
Jaberwocky - Binds a healer and walks towards them and instantly kills them if he reaches them. Can be stunned.

All of these adds happen at the same time, and the boss continues to throw out raidwides.

>>713503112
Not really as the taunt would FORCE aggro on the other tank for 3 sec and there only needs to be one player to initiate it instead of being forced to rely on the off-tank actually doing their job. In my scenario, the DRK probably wouldn't even have Shirk bound on his bars.

>>713501465
>you NEEDING to have gpose and a whole profile and social media for your chara to play with anyone talented
is that why there's a bunch of 2010-facebook-tier 'character profiles' on xwitter now?
i legitimately wasn't sure if this was just some sort of f-list profile kink shit or what, with how many people basically kept trying to astroturf stardom of their ffxiv characters with these weird LARP profiles

>>713503238
Because he kept getting told that he was a miracle child and he developed a complex around proving to everyone that he really was a miracle that could live up to the standards he imagined they had for him. He only wanted to one-up his dad's accomplishments to live up to those imagined expectations, not because he specifically hated his dad or anything.

>>713502521
Daichi Hiroi is a fucking retard and a hack writer

>>713503038
I agree that it's most likely manpower related but Yoshida still said it was 'cost' and, again, clarified that 'cost doesn't mean money in this case'. Which yeah that would probably mean that the cost he mentioned is in fact the allocation of manpower and that they can only do so many things at once.

I am a Shtola fag. She is the reason I am playing the game, I really hope we will get some cute 1 on 1 adventure where we can actually learn more about her one day... but DT kinda robbed me of this hope entirely.

>>713503043
I mean are they wrong?
Even if the player has a "choice" there will always be an optimal build/setup that people will be essentially forced into using for endgame content.

This worked in stuff like XI where people were much more chill and the metashitters didn't have a vice grip on things

>>713503043
>There are social credit scores for MMOs now? lmao
have been for well over a decade
it's only raidniggers so it's not something you have to actually worry about but it is funny

In all seriousness how would you write a Y'shtola romance without compromising her entire character? As we all know from Bioware and other WRPGS there is nothing more cringe than the character abandoning their entire personality to stroke you off. So how would you realistically want the writers to approach it?

Does the writer who wrote Heavensward still work at SE? That to me felt like the best self contained story they have ever done, yes there was some ascian shit but the Dragonsong War itself was a good story and the journey through Dravania with the party felt like going through an old-school FF game with a party.

>>713503379
Anyone playing the 'endgame content' of xiv is the source of the problem

>bot-kun is spamming old Y'shtola simp posts again
But.. why? Does the character make him that mad?

>muh manpower
so hire more developers you dumb NIGGER

>>713503379
If you choose to play with people who want to lock you only into a meta build, that's up to you. Furthermore, this assumes that there's only one all-encompassing meta build for every fight. Fights with variable designs like the ones we see in this tier of Arcadion can easily favor certain choices over others, so you have an incentive to swap around. Plus side content is still content and also favors things in very different ways. Have you ever tried PCT in Chaotic or Forked Tower? It's a nightmare.

When can we expect the new DD lads? I need that sense of danger and urgency from the solo runs and I was really disappointed EO didn't deliver that.

>>713503480
He's at least the main credited writer for XVI which is a fucking shame since XVI's story isn't even good and actively gets worse as it goes along

>>713503498
>pic related's who shtick is her knowledge autism and wanting to satiate it by hopping shards
>krile coopts the whole thing by having magic super tech that makes shard hopping into a mundane form of transportation
Krile isn't the only one who got done dirty.

>>713503534
The patch is early August and I'm pretty sure deep dungeon is in the 7.35 patch, so maybe two months after that. Fuck, I didn't even think about that, that's the only thing I'm looking forward to so far.

>>713499368
vrchat

>>713503379
>5% of people will be autistic and ruin their own fun
>Obviously that means we need to save them and ruin the fun for 100% of people
this is why all modern mmos are dead in the water and are only played by sunk cost fags

The only true canon is Y'shtola and the WoL, anything else is just cope and wishful thinking.

>>713503379
>I mean are they wrong?
To say the game is worse for keeping the fun stuff in it? idk man. Maybe letting the Internet roll your entire character is more fun than I think it is.

>>713503269
I mean I've shirked tanks before who have fallen asleep. Obviously it works better if they provoke first, but usually if they at least have their stance on it should still work. Then once you want the boss back you can just provoke it back.

>>713503507
>choose to play with people who want to lock you only into a meta build
its not really a "choice", its just how these shit communities are nowadays
even xiv has plugins where people stalk the people who joins their PF so they can see their parse logs and kick/keep them accordingly

its not realistic to expect players to find/form their own hyperspecific amish community in-game that is isolated from everyone else just to enjoy the game in a non toxic way

what was the point of this character

>>713503651
True!

>>713503716
Asking "What was the point" of literally anything in dawntrail is a stupid question because there is no point.
The failed theater kid wanted to show you his DMPC that no one liked

>>713503716
What point

>>713503716
He was the only guy I liked because despite being childhood friends with wukkie he refuses to use her stupid fucking pet name.
But yeah he doesn't have a point. I don't even remember him acting as a tour guide very much.

its so krilover

>>713503701
which is why you shouldn't cater to the retards who make it an issue
they should be the ones who have to self-select to inflict their autism on themselves
the game has spent most of its history only catering to the worst possible people to make the game worse for everyone involved

>make krile expansion
>forget to put krile in
owari da...

>>713502836
Obviously.
Just cutting out Wuk and getting a competent writer to write again would fix most issues for fags who aren't going "I wish this game was a different game because I can't get people to play the one I actually want to play".

>>713503853
She's not even in the new patch art. But that Highlander guy from Oblivion is there.

>>713503716
>oh fujos liked the random side character that was in the story for about 20 minutes? Hiroi-san, please add him to the story, and make him one of the main characters
>sure Yoshida-san (too busy writing his fanfic tier waifu and ignores Yoshi)

>>713502836
It can't get any worse.
Maybe they've had the fujo working on her magnum opus for the past few years but if not god help them

>>713503498
Free reposts for best girl, seems like a W to me.

I can understand the hesitation they have, I thought the same before I played “It doesn’t make sense, then every player will be this Warrior of Light”, and I thought it wouldn’t work. Then I played it and man, that shit just did not matter at all. Having a world and characters that actually respond to, recognise and know your character absolutely blew me away.

The WoL starts as a nobody adventurer, quickly gets a name for himself and is recognised as such, even drawing the attention of the city states and their leaders. Soon enough you’ve got people trying to arrange meetings for a chance to see him, or having rumours spread about him in enemy states as the survivors of his attacks tell tales or share misery at the friends they lost to his hands. He’s a person that exists in the world and the world reacts to him in turn, it’s absolutely fantastic and thoroughly exceeded my expectations.

Similar to Endwalker completely finishing and tying up every single storyline and loose end since the base game. You expect an MMO to string the plot on forever, but it didn’t. It’s a true and conclusive ending, everything that was setup from the Beast Tribes to the Scions to the Ascians is fully finished.

>>713503043
I mean he isn't technically wrong. Those states of the game were factually worse, it just wasn't because they had RPG mechanics.
And 2.0's RPG mechanics were factually barebones garbage. Stat allocation that only had any meaning because stat numbers were small enough for it to have an impact(and even then it was boring) and cross class skills that were just modern role skills but you had to go out of your way to get them so you could actually do anything at higher levels.
Would it have been more interesting to keep RPG mechanics and try to refine them into something good? Sure.
Do I fault the devs for putting garbage in the garbage can instead of trying to recycle it repeatedly until it somehow becomes gold? Fuck no.

FFXIV Mobile

>>713503947

>>713503980
What's a shame is that they had to have Emet say directly to the camera "Hey the mmo isn't ending retard" and then they waste one of his plot hooks on a bad retread of ff4 and another on the worst bomb the game has ever seen.
It's funnier if you just imagine he knew this would happen and did it to spite you for waking him up again.

>>713504035
So gun guy is going to die and shale will turn out to be the big bad, right?

>>713504021
fuck off, no one is playing your predatory chink FF

>>713504071
Us lorechads already figured out that Shale is Calyx months ago.

what outfit do you wish wasnt store exclusive

>>713502730
If you grey parse with these job designs you literally are a sub human

>>713497978 (OP)
Is it actually over? He pretty much said the game is in maintenance mode now.

>>713504097
There should be no fucking cash shop gear

>>713504075

>>713503716
women

>>713503716
She's cute.

>>713503853
No one said that beside lala faggots

>>713504097
All of them. Selling past event stuff is fine, but cash shop exclusive shit is unacceptable.

>>713503168
"I'll help this anon and find that pic. I am sure if I google
>Send him to teh ball crushing penis machine
It'll show up".

That was not what showed up.

>>713504128
>states the obvious everyone has known for years
>OH MY GOD XIV IS FINISHED NO MORE MONEY NO RESOURCES OFFICIALLY MAINTENANCE MODE

>>713504075
Seems active enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrpYrZR7bIY

>>713504075
>fuck off, no one is playing your predatory chink FF
the chink ff is less predatory than the main game and has more features to boot
it is fucking hilarious trying to see people tear it down because they're scared about how even a chink port has ten times more effort put into it than the actual game

>>713504364
What monkey language is that supposed to be?

>>713504087
Elaborate.

>>713503716
Erenville is literally just there to make women and femboys cream themselves

No corsair no sub
Simple as

>>713503168
>>713504297
Went to the archives
Images only
Yotsuyu

6th one

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/yotsuyu/filter/text/

It is a funny picture so I had to find it too.

>>713504412
>both speak the same way
>shale is a super hacker
>talks about how people cared for the castle as though she was there herself
>makes sure she's the first person in the room to check the throne terminal
>immediately was able to track calyx's transmission
>insisted meat-sphene take queen sphene's regulator crown
>her transmission conveniently got jammed as soon as Calyx wanted to talk to you personally.

>>713504097
All of it.

>>713504128
Its so pants on head retarded that it's actually funny
>Have the largest surge of new players since... Ever
>Keep doing the exact opposite of what both veterans and newcomers want, only targeting the wants of some specific hyper-addicts that the game has managed to swoon
>Muh resources...
>"Wy player leve uguise?"

People still play this dead trannified corpse?

>>713504470
If that's the twist I will groan and forget about it 15 minutes later.

>>713504470
but would that be a good twist?
As she is now, Shale might as well be a non-character, so I don't see her being Calyx being very meaningful

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJfFzmWmIrg
he became what he swore to destroy

>>713504297
Got it.
>>713498676
It'll never happen and I am not even sure it's a JRPG thing but I was reminiscing how fun it'd be if you had BG3 style branching solutions in XIV.
>>713499927
>Make Frontline a 1v1 faction mode
Add in dueling in the world itself and people would fucking love it. No special zone, no queue, just straight up opt in and boom. Not what you said, but it'd be a fun addition. And to gold saucer I never get why if this game is second lifized they don't go hard on that. They can't do poker because of ratings? Fine. Have pool. Have lots of fun mini games or games within a game.

>>713501465
If you get rid of mods you will see a hemmoraging of players that is probably 5% or more (given currently ~1 million subscribers that'd be 50k but I could see up to 100k). The problem with mods is the culture, and ultimately you can't go home again.

>>713501730
Someone told me that WOW zones feel more natural and XIV zones are movie set pieces and I never could shake that. WOW zones can be rather empty but god damn are XIV zones just movie set pieces, that's 100% accurate.

>>713504470
Point 1 and 2 are reaching but the rest is believable. I personally don't like it because "dun dun dun your friend is your enemy all alooong" is a boring plot. Also throwing a traitor plot point in the same patch where it's resolved is stupid. Stupid pacing.

Not saying you're wrong. I half-jokingly want it to be right even, if just for laughs and giggles.

whos ur favorite sidequest npc

>>713504718
It all went to shit when "they" came for Rich and his mayo

>>713504817
Super cute fiddie from the crystarium crafting quests.

>>713501465
if you killed modding (all modding) there would be a mass exodus that would make DT launch look like a normal tiny dip

What is her problem?

>>713504806
>Also throwing a traitor plot point in the same patch where it's resolved is stupid. Stupid pacing.
I'm pretty sure Calyx is going to be the next ongoing villain. He was just barely introduced like you said, it's too quick to wrap him up now. Plus he knows about the shards and has an interest in Azem's magic.

>>713504817
Varsarudh
>>713504906
autism and no good writers
ishikawa tried but couldn't do a ton with what she was given and then daichi went and shit on everything

>>713502458
That's something a lot of games are losing and it's so nice when you get it back. Of late the only one I've encountered to do that in is Reforger, since Helldivers is very much the XIV style of "Shut up, do your task with a PC who might as well be an NPC, leave" (assuming you don't just play with existing friends like I do). It's more Japanese than uniquely American culture but I do feel like the trend of aloofness and shyness over here makes it more common. But we're creatures of systems so like you said when the game never encourages that (but for Bozja) why do it?

>>713504439
Thanks.

>>713504470
>Hot elf with little branch fae voice actress is cripple boy
I don't like it but it's plausible.

>>713504817
I liked Estinien since I was a lancer when I picked it up in 2.5 so I felt spoiled rotten.

>>713504939
>I'm pretty sure Calyx is going to be the next ongoing villain.
that's kind of sad if so

>>713497978 (OP)
he literally killed the game lol.

>>713504179
>>713504364
>>713504403
SEAmonkeys are not sending their best
Is this really how you're going to use your 16 hour janny shift? They already have gacha threads for you to shill, at least you can afford to skim on f2p with that considering your countries currency is worth nothing

>>713504939
>I'm pretty sure Calyx is going to be the next ongoing villain.
Please not, they won't be able to pull a Zenos with him.
>He was just barely introduced
Same as Beatrix

>actually focusses on the Scions, prominently on Estinien and Y'shtola
>several custome, never used animations for Y'shtola
>down to her fucking ears dropping
My crackpot theory is that pic related is a huge shareholder and demanded his waifu to get more screen time. Would also explain why they very evidently shoehorned Y'shtola into 7.0 and had tem say TWICE that she will be there in the future.

mogstore should be for totally new outfits, selling outfits from npcs is being greedy.

>>713505052
I'm a burger, just laughing at the people who are so afraid to acknowledge that some people are so shit even chinks are better than them.

>>713499927
>unironically pull all employees off their current jobs so they can hacksaw the game into having variant dungeons
stopped reading here you absolute retard. dungeons are not content

>>713500939
Here's something new and refreshing:

What if we made a game that was a fusion between RPG and stylish action? And it was bad at both?

>>713505119
Dungeons are literally content. The problem is that they are bad content, and ongoing useless dead air that nobody wants to deal with, but are required to.

She is the only adult female left in the cast. It's only natural people will project bigger tits on her, especially since she is pretty big tiddy coded.

>>713504939
I don't want it to happen but I definitely can see it happen. After Emet and Expedition 33 seeing an emo kid as the next big villain kinda irks me. What do you have in your single-shard contained backstory that makes you better than Emet, that kind if thing. Then again, I laughed at Emet's first appearances as wacky jester man behind the man so jokes on me I guess.

I just want to invest in the story again, man.

>>713502280
Every expac after HW was meant to be 2 amnd have a long series of patch story quests like ARR did. They restructured their entire dev timeline after HW and rushed through it all as much as possible.

>>713504781
>Someone told me that WOW zones feel more natural and XIV zones are movie set pieces and I never could shake that.
WoW puts a lot of effort into interacting with the world. Instead of one MSQ quest that leads you to a point and somewhere else you often get like 3-5 quests from a hub and they make you beat the shit and collect stuff out of an area. That alone creates gameplay variation, forces you to interact with the environment and leaves more of an impression of the area. You dont just go in to trigger a cinematic and then instantly fuck off.
Its also not part of the epic mainstory but rather many short bursts of quests with unique characters and settings. Best of all? Many are optional. If you dislike it for whatever reason just go somewhere else.
FF14 has the yellow quests for stuff like that but they arent really fleshed out and they are also so unrewarding that nobody bothers with them anyways.

And funny enough WoW was at its worst when it forced a linear MSQ with Shadowlands too.
Let the people roam, man. Both games call me adventurer so let me actually walk off the beaten path for fucks sake.

But its not just that. ARR zones felt more natural and lived in compared to later ones.
I think a big difference now is that the maps in FF14 because very wide and now you can walk around any possible threat. The previous density felt nicer. And you had the basic hunting logs that actually made you beat up shit along the way.

>>713505168
The hell is this?

>>713505162
>I just want to invest in the story again, man.
hahah, fuck you!

>>713504097
you're paying a subscription there should be no cash shop.

>>713505224
jeet enix

>>713503716
suffering i guess
i thought he was an utter bore in ew, i still think he's boring, but the shit with his mom at least made me feel bad for him

>soon SE announces their full concord tier flop of the year
>yfw CBU3 appears on the credit/title drop

>>713505069
Beatrix wasn't really added as a character though nor was she supposed to be some grand antagonist. Just a fighting style they stuck into a robo-lady body to make a cool fight.
I do think they could get an expansion out of Calyx but I really doubt he's meant to be some big overarching villain like the other guy says. At least not without some serious work being done.

>>713505224
looks like a prelude to some gay porn

>>713505349
cute cat. But I think we're in the last gasp of concord style disasters.

It'll be a game with LLM AI as a big selling point

>>713498967
straight up fake news and the fact they did this and not to endwalker is amazing kek

>>713505273
>pay for the base game
>the dlcs
>a monthly sub
>and the cash store
I know it's "the" model for these games but the fact that so many people defend it will never not make me seethe.

>>713497978 (OP)
What if they add RPG elements?

>>713505207
>And funny enough WoW was at its worst when it forced a linear MSQ with Shadowlands too.
And funny enough, it was at it's best in vanilla where the people who designed the world and the people who designed the quests weren't able to communicate with each other in any way whatsoever. The world designers put their effort into making a world that felt real and populated it with some random enemy clusters and sprinkled a few named bosses here and there.
Then the quest designers looked at what they had made and tried to come up with reasons to encourage the player to engage with that world.
The quest writers had no ability to say "We need this here or that there.", they had to work with what was already there.

>>713505409
>whynotboth.png

>>713505241
Funny thing is I kinda believed the kid. His backstory is straight up an underdog, oscarbait story. I even want him to success. And considering Wookie Lamer is as bad as that, I cope that maybe his DT story is 50% his talent and 50% mandated by the power that be for extra budget and what little was saved the expac is from his own pen.

>>713505425
It's incredibly funny to me they had a big ad campaign for the worst expansion ever and yet had jack and fuck all promotion for shb/ew

>>713505207
All of the new zones in XIV feel like nothing but setdressing/a movie set since that is exactly what they are designed to be. Like you said, the MSQ is so entrenched into the core of what XIV is that everything elses literally rotates and shifts around it, even the "endgame" plays 2nd fiddle to the MSQ since it's literally designed to be an offshoot continueation of it.

Reminder SE is doing great at the moment, have moved to multiplatform day 1 and XIV is going nowhere.

>>713505425
Endwalker does not have any tranny so the activist who are pretending to be journalist don't give a single shit

>>713505542
>XIV is going nowhere
fast

>>713505207
>But its not just that. ARR zones felt more natural and lived in compared to later ones.
I think there were more random settlements that just were there, and you didn't do anything in. Probably because they were just copying a bunch of crap from 1.0. Later on there wasn't any point in exploring since the MSQ would make you visit all the key locations anyway.

Thinking about it, there's one random settlement in Shaaloani that I don't remember being MSQ related, but it could also be just a bunch of abandoned buildings. No idea since I never looked at it too closely since you just fly everywhere now.

>>713497978 (OP)
Time to bring the DQ MMO to the west. FF is dead.
>>713505542
>have moved to multiplatform day 1
Bravely Default HD is Switch 2 exclusive

>>713505542
does square enix have enough money to pay you for these #ADs? careful, it might cost you guys another raid

>>713504978
You know a common cope is people saying "uhhh why arent you just naturally social? I totally make friends everywhere when I play even in dungeon roulette trust me!" but its all nonsense.

If a game is meant to be a social game it should have social systems in place. Its just logical. Same way a horror game dev will design his game so that you shit your diaper an MMO dev should design their game so that it gets people together. Optimally it should happen in subtle game theory like ways.
Something like FFXI where you need a full party for any sort of content might be a bit too extreme, but when two people meet in the world and aim to do the same thing the game should reward them for doing it together. Imo that should be obvious yet its not the case.

Likewise systems that divide people should be kept to a minimum. Like yeah its alright when picking herbs isnt a massive group activity but when two players cant even feasibly progress through the story because its 90%+ clicking through text and cutscenes you fucked up hard as an MMO dev.

>>713497978 (OP)
Remove all instanced content. MMOs that don't make use of their open world should just be lobby based games.

>>713505629
>I think there were more random settlements that just were there, and you didn't do anything in. Probably because they were just copying a bunch of crap from 1.0.
They copied settlement names and rough locations, but all that stuff was completely remade for ARR.
>Thinking about it, there's one random settlement in Shaaloani that I don't remember being MSQ related
Yeah, it's the pueblo village that was going to be the Whalaqee home before they rewrote that area.

>>713498195
Piss off, cunt.

>>713505502
I don't think that is unreasonable at all. People wanna blame him because he was the "big" name on the tin but we'd need actual info on what went on behind the scenes and why they made a number of choices that they did to actually say Hiroi is the problem.

>>713505450
I think all of those things would be acceptable except for the cash shop.
Like I specifically prefer to play a sub so guarantee an even playing field and no intrusive stores but we cant even have that anymore.
Its not corea mmo tier p2w but it still sucks to see so much content locked away.

>>713505728
>They copied settlement names and rough locations, but all that stuff was completely remade for ARR.
Right, the point being that they still had something old they were remaking so probably a lot of things that were unnecessary for the MSQ were added too.

>Yeah, it's the pueblo village that was going to be the Whalaqee home before they rewrote that area.
Maybe I need to look at it more closely.

>more than 1k items on the shop
>new expansion to buy every 2 years
>monthly sub
why doesn't this game have more content?

When are we getting Blu content patch?

>>713505913
Because they use it to fund other games, they are fully aware most players won't leave so it just makes good business sense to give them less. It's like if your wife loves you and will never leave, so you go fuck other women anyway.

Fuck this dead game.
I'm going back to NGS.

>>713505685
>when two players cant even feasibly progress through the story because its 90%+ clicking through text and cutscenes you fucked up hard as an MMO dev.

I am 100% absolutely certain the end goal will be by 9.0 to make XIV playable fully offline. They've started to introduce trusts for 8 mans MSQ related and it'll take more work for 24 mans but it's still an end stage goal. But yeah like I said before and like you're saying there the system really shapes the interaction. I think locking away shit in zone within zone really hurts. You can't have 200 people zerg-rushing and spamming sure, but rather than plopping shit down in bosnia or bermuda it'd be nice to see that brought into the world outside of the city. Only dynamic shit I see happening out in the wild is RP events.

>>713506010
The old DOA renders had a nice soul to them.

>>713500012
I read fanfics about her and her brother.

>>713497978 (OP)
It needs to remove cross dc travel restrictions for retainers and gathering etc or ADD cross dc function on the party finder and duty finder and allow FC to be used cross dc because in game chat is dead otherwise.

>>713505913
Shit forget the actual item count, just fantas and dyes probably earn them 10s of thousands a month. I've known people who use a fanta every other week.

>>713497978 (OP)
Lol that face matches the "weeeellll" so...well.
Eeetoooo

>>713506296
Who the fuck still uses fantasias when glamourer exists?

>>713506382
retarded people
trust me

Would a spiritual successor to FFXI work today? Basically the same systems just with a look that wasnt Final Fantasy?

>>713506382
no all the people use mods, the point of a mmo is the other ones to see your stuff

>>713506382
Not everyone uses mods and even those who do still want to look a certain way to non-modders.
Modding is for fags anyways

>>713506484
hard to say. FFXI was a rough and brutal game.

Is there a mod yet to turn others mounts to default chocobo and hide glamours from others.

>>713506484
No. Even something like Wildstar proved a decade ago that early 00s MMO design died out for a reason. Nostalgia is all there is, but it's mostly about the time period. If you did a spiritual successor in this day and age you'd have to encrypt everything in the game, make it impossible to mod, hide damage numbers, and make parsing an extreme pain in the ass to even attempt. Information and optimization is the death of that kind of MMO design philosophy, and in an era where people are becoming even less social than they were? Good luck keeping a sizeable player base, let alone attracting them in the first place.

>>713506484
There's no audience for it honestly. You gotta have forward thinking for this type of thing. MMOs as they were are a thing of the past. You'll never have another Everquest type MMO nor a WoW MMO again. What you will get is Roblox/Fortnite (Not the BR stuff in particular) type MMOs currently. So try to think of a Roblox type Final Fantasy if you want another MMO, ala carte type modes with lots of different creativity.

But even then, with how game dev is, if SE would make a Roblox FF, now the type would be passe by the time it releases.

>>713502483
Xth for sniffing zero's ass

>>713506624
has been for years

>>713504035
>speen is a smn

she's gonna summon the ark mount as her bahamut equivalent calling it now

>>713506737
wildstar wasn't early mmos it was just quintupling down on raidshit, what killed them in the first place
xi is just whacking overworld mobs for most of the game

>>713497978 (OP)
I don't what is supposed to be enjoyable. I downloaded recently and grinded a paladin to 50 and a black mage to 50. The main missions blow. It's just "teleport across the map to talk to someone, then teleport across the map in the other direction and fight two enemies, then teleport back here." They had me kill monkeys and fish as part of my paladin training. Really? That's all they could come up with?
On top of that the open world has nothing to do in it. It's not a world that's fun to explore because it's all just teleport-based.
So far the ONLY things I like in FFXIV are: Gold Saucer (although there's not enough games), Mahjong, Triple Triad (don't like beating a guy for 40 minutes until he finally gives me his card), and that palace of the dead.
There's not even builds or rpg elements. I just looked up what my "combo" is on both characters and that's literally all I'll do for the rest of the game. Where is the fun? The story is barely there so it's not like I even have that to enjoy.

>>713506484
Maybe, but I think if an MMO is going to succeed in the modern age it needs to lean into what Star Wars Galaxies tried to offer. Give the full 'living in an isekai' experience. Lots of lifestyle content, fully immersive roleplaying, housing, let people live out their entire game career as a blacksmith or something, let players be criminal menaces to other players and have player bounty hunters and guards try to stop them, no strict endgame but a lot of dangerous areas to explore with your friends.

>>713506484
Making oldschool mmos just isn't possible now

>>713506737
>wildstar
>early 00s mmo design

>paypigs are your main source of income
>modding undergoes gargantuan leaps and bounds come shb
>even the most dent-headed of limsa afkers know how to mold their modbeast for free and mare it up
>can't do anything about this because you'll kill 90% of your playerbase

>>713506737
>. Even something like Wildstar proved a decade ago that early 00s MMO

>>713506484
Uhhhh, depends. With a party finder/builder like 14 had, it could straight up exist in it's most difficult stage which was treasures launch 75era cap. So like you could put up your party thing as lets say a warrior
>tank: warrior
>dps:
>dps:
>healer:
>support:
That kind of thing and just make it how you want, not restricted like maybe you want 2 tank like a ninja and warrior as an example. Also, the best thing ever that could come from this.
"I need help killing the wyvern for dragoon" and then set party up for anyone to join to help.
I would really love a 11 remake with like 14's character creation/glamour style and it's party builder system.

>>713506938
WoW and Planes of Power are both early 00s MMOs so it's not technically wrong.

>>713506803
Go back to wow.

Modding was my only reason to play in EW, but DT was so bad only literal FREAKS are still playing and making mods

>>713501730
>captures that sense of adventure again
It's true tho, it captured the slogfest that ARR was once again and finally made me quit

>>713497978 (OP)
>>weeeeelllllllllllll it's not my fault the game is at a freefall the gaijin just aren't paying

Is this in reference to something he actually said or is it schizo headcanon? Genuinely asking.

>>713507295
>Genuinely asking.

>>713507295
Latest live letter he said they didn't have the budget for a normal mode version of Forked Tower and now people are rioting.

>>713507036
This would be the only hope for a FFXI remake. It'd have to lose a lot of it's difficulty and adopt a lot of modern convinces in mmo's today like fast travel, am easy to read journal for keeping track of things/quests, a party finder, the content not be too overwhelmingly difficult.
Would square do something like this even if fans wanted it? Probably not, they use the money ffxiv makes to fund failure after failure live service games.

>>713507295
he complained they don't have enough money and that's why everything is gone to shit
which, is technically correct in a way, but the game is also shit otherwise

>>713507295
He admitted he has no budget

>>713499368
Discord

>>713507145
Wildstar was in that "lets "fix" WoW" era of MMOs next to GW2.
Many flashing lights and EPIC announcers for mundane shit like double kills of generic mobs, more action based gameplay, fewer keybinds. Tons of "QoL" convenience shit that removed friction.
It was an attempt at changing the formula and one of the many mmo design dead ends.
It also built up on the idea of modern WoW without the hooks of older WoW which were still the foundation of it.

>>713506803
It's not fun to play. The other anon who thinks he is "owning" you by telling you to play WoW is actually doing you a favour. Play WoW if you want an MMO with enjoyable gameplay. Albeit the story there is still trash, but it is more present and ironically currently more engaging than XIV's.

There is one main reason people still play FFXIV in 2025 and that is for the goon mods. It's that and/or a sunk cost fallacy from investing so much time in it back when it used to be marginally enjoyable. But mostly it's for the goon mods. The sheer number of active players using mare and turning their poor WoL into an abomination is frankly hilarious.

>>713507295
Okay I'll actually answer. When they say "money" or "budget", what they mean is that the team doesn't have enough people because they're making 3 fucking games at once. Which is also stupid, but not exactly something you can simply fix by pouring more money into it.

>>713507445
>>713507420
>>713507368
Hasn't that always been the case though? Square never really gave them a budget that was in line with the money they were bringing in. I haven't played since DT launch so I don't know how bad it's gotten now or if it's just business as usual.

>>713507295
the wowcucks and the schizo are seething endlessly the commonly known fact that square steals the bulk of 14's earnings and doesn't invest anything into the game is somehow an earthshattering new detail

If you're still playing this dead kusoge, you deserve to be shat on

>>713506737
>>713506738
I've been wanting a sandbox MMO like SWG for years now with no themepark or focus on endgame PVE/raiding shit for years. I think Discord did more damage to MMOs than WoW itself did forcing socialization outside of the game.

>>713507527
That's always been the case, he's just trotting this out as an excuse since even he seems to have to acknowledge how in the ditch the game is at the moment.
A few weeks? after DT launch they put in some retarded system where you can't go to a server if it crosses some arbitrary limit they put in so now the only way to get to anyr emotely popular servers is to just use a plugin that tries to get you there every ~15 seconds

>fags cry females get better looking shit
>now everything is gender neutral
>fags cry females get better hairstyles
>now they're all shit
Thanks fags

>>713507527
It's always been known, but it's also always technically been speculation. It strings different hearing it confirmed by Yoshida that their resources, our subscriptions, are being siphoned into other projects.
>I haven't played since DT launch so I don't know how bad it's gotten now
Basically Occult Crescent is the new iteration on Eureka/Bozja and all the casual and midcore players who have been getting raped this expansion by nothing but high end content have been waiting for it. Then they went and made the Baldesion Arsenal equivalent into a savage tier dungeon. And even the people willing to do it aren't happy because the instance cap for Occult Crescent is only 72 people and you need to squeeze your 48-man premade in, which results in over an hour of spamming queues hoping you roll a fresh instance. Tensions were already high before the live letter and him saying that was like setting a bomb off.

>>713507602
that flower hairstyle is one of the best they've had in a while
Shame it's from dead content so it'll always be 50 million or something but as someone else said everyone just uses glamorer and mare anyway

Who is the sickest player you've seen in FFXIV?
I know someone with 8 characters, and no, they aren't for Erping, he just level up them because he doesn't know what to do in the game when all the jobs are at max level.

Our girl is leading the value race.

>>713507865
This is what I mean. So many retards monogame FFXIV of all fucking things instead of doing literally anything else. Like playing a better game.

>>713507602
Need a modbeast Miqo'te like this to get obsessed with my EB and constantly ask to show her their Goblet apartment

>>713501565
I've had the exact same idea except you couple it with all skills and abilities being unlocked at 50. It's also the source of all sub stats unless you overmeld, so crafters are mandatory for materia in gear.
To force people to engage with it, you have to place materia in the stone which unlocks your job spells/abilities and in turn allows you to progress the job quest. Past a certain point it won't even let you gain XP unless you fill it out.
Each node uses progressively higher tier materia so low level materia actually has a purpose.

So when you hit 30 you get your crystal, once you reach 50 you have all your basic abilities unlocked, and then you keep unlocking the job abilities up to 100. Playing lower level content preserves your unlocks so you're slightly stronger with your full kit.

>>713507865
I'm friends with someone who is at character cap and has like half of them at max

>>713500795
I had a nasally nerd tranny shotcaller for DRS back in the day as well, I think they just like being in charge of things even if they blow ass at it

>>713507865
Me,
i've done the zodiac spear on 3 different characters.

>>713507865
Me, since I've been playing since 1.0 and still eating the slop of Yoshi-P. Send help since I am very sickly you see.

>>713508240
Yeah autogynephiles (nerds) love power and control. That's why discord gatekeeping and cliqueyness is so common in XIV.

>>713500963
OC rewards are like 90% copy pasted loot tables from Eureka and Bozja though. I have only seen a few new minions and there is 1 emote that people chase. OC seems really fucking lazy and it's just FATEs that are really quick.

As long as my ERP Mod beast wife keeps playing, so will i

https://x.com/strawbeemelk/status/1879260520831918133/photo/1

>>713508463
Foids make such disgusting characters

>>713508463
mentally ill women arent worth it bro

>>713501538
I believe the shirt might be somewhat disingenuous as a means to elicit a reaction

>>713508530
They really do. You can tell which marebeasts are played by grown ass prison gay men because they actually look attractive. These ugly ass sculpts are only used by foids and extremely homosexual men with no taste.

>>713508463
Is it women who grew up playing with barbies or is it just nature that drives them to go for the doll look

>>713508615
mentally ill women with too much internet access

>>713497978 (OP)
He's literally been begging for people to apply to the team for like 5 years. The game has been out for 10 years now, the original talent moved on, then the newly hired talent moved on too. He was hoping to have fresh talent five years ago so there'd be no hiccups, but this is all you can do when your human resources aren't replenished when and how you like. They built a solid base and managed to make a big, desperate push when they needed it most (the momentum from shadowbringers going into endwalker), but that exhausted all their human capital. When you manage to keep the last scraps of a team together for one last hurrah by labeling it the "end of an era", people are going to be fucking done after that. They get bored, they want to make something new, they need more money, a promotion, they need to move to another city, whatever.

DT is the natural consequence of finally managing to scrape a new team together to replace the old one, but there's not enough of the old team left to train them. There's nothing to be done but sandbag and hope they eventually get better.

We've even been experiencing this in my shitty little team at my shitty little office job. As I come up on 3 years I'm realizing that without junior staff, the moment I leave (and I've wanted to do that from day 1, let alone day 1000) everything I've worked on is going to immediately drop in quality. And there's nothing I can do about it unless they hire someone for me to knowledge transfer onto. Let alone a big creative team that works on an MMO.

>>713507527
>>713507591
>>713507656
The problem is that we're actually getting even less than we used to.
We're at an all time snail crawl pace, 132 day major patches and 30 month expansions.

>>713499779
>counter intuitive like one PLD or MNK
PLD is probably one of the most intuitive jobs. You can legitimately figure out the perfect rotation just by not being a smooth brained retard.

>>713508615
Warped perception because it's not based on what men find attractive.
Women delude themselves into thinking they know what that is but they keep proving that they don't. So it's an amalgamation of countering all the things women shit on other women for.
>those wrinkles make you look old
>botox face
>wow, flat much?
>plastic tits
etc. etc.

Women are the worst judges for beauty.

>>713508723
WoW is going nearly twice as fast on the expansion level if Midnight is releasing early 2025. TWW released after Dawntrail. 8.0 won't release until late 2026 if not early 2027.

>>713508868
Based beyond belief, if you aren't good enough to be certain content, you aren't good enough to beat certain content, fucking deal with it.

>>713505409
I think we still have one more to go, would've been marathon but they pulled out.

It's gonna take more than the current landscape to make dumb nigger retard suits realize that the real future right now is in AA developing with some AAA, and not doing retarded never ending AAA 300+ million dollar gambles nonstop, needs one or more two big wake up calls.

i'ts ovah

The local schizo is finally here, clap clap clap

S-E need to get their shit together. I'm finding less people to have e-sex with because even the diehards are taking extended breaks from how woeful the game is.

>>713509041
How much Hoyocoin am I looking at spending to get 64,800 or whatever on the bottom right?

>paywalled aethercurrents
>timegated dungeons
>paywalled relics and weapon glows
KEKKKK

>>713509110
>Fatty's blessings

>>713508913
>>713509041
>>713509110
FFXIVly reminder

>>713507865
I have almost 40

>>713508913
do these people even play the game
the monetization is arguably less scummy than the actual game

>>713508463
Oops all filters.

So what's Yoshida's excuse?

>>713509110
>paywalled aethercurrents
"time saver"
>timegated dungeons
Khloe's journal
>paywalled relics and glows
lmao

>>713509319
lazy

>>713497978 (OP)
>what's the solution here?
get asmongold to play it (again) so people will care about this game (again)

>>713509319
He wanted to make everyone switch to jp

>>713509319
I'm still baffled that they had to re-record wuk's lines MULTIPLE TIMES

>>713509459
oh I was looking for this, thanks

>>713509459
what's the red/green/blue

>>713509459
That's what, 20% per DT patch?
Oof

>>713509041
>>713509110
It's fucking over.

>>713509459
AND YOU COULD HAVE IT ALL

>>713509459
Shb and ew were so fucking bad compared to hw and sb. I hate when the things I like get popular

>>713509615
don't lump sb in with hw you retard that was where shit went bad

>>713508934
Tbf SE was never a serious contender, xivtroons are just loud and obnoxious.

>>713509459
>Kills six years of growth
I LOVE MY PEACE
I LOVE MY PAPA
I LOVE MY TACOS

>>713500795
My Ozma run was a guy who kept giving out wrong callouts on purpose and saying the right thing at the last minute even though half of it was newbies just to get them to panic and apologize so that the five other mods in the call not even in-raid could laugh and make fun of them while loudly eating and typing.

Cerberus run was some morbidly obese fudge packer that kept referring to himself as bear and daddy among other things. You could hear him choking on his own fat. I was as disturbed as he was when he was a kid and his uncle locked him in the bathroom.

Would have honestly preferred a tranny. At least hearing puberty Kermit is comedy gold.

>>713498195
>shitters, women, and fags.
so basically the entire playerbase?

>>713509459
No matter what happens...dawntrail fags are unable to defeat this chart.
>muh covid
>muh playerbase taking a small break
It will keep going down. 2 more years until the next expansion lol

>>713509697
desu i think player numbers were always gonna go down with the next expansion after EW. a good expansion could have slowed the bleed and promising patches could have slowly built up again from there. instead its freefall now and everything hinges on 8.0 being amazing or at least looking like a huge step up

Yoshida hasn't played his own game since making XVI.

>>713509793
>instead its freefall now and everything hinges on 8.0 being amazing or at least looking like a huge step up
LOL
LMAO
I don't know if it's funnier that they finally got off their asses and made (some) hats work for viera or that it took them 6 years to do it

>>713509824
>Yoshida hasn't played his own game since making XVI.
He started making XVI back in 3.1

>>713509845
time to make a bingo chart for "features that will suddenly be implemented for no apparent reason"

>>713509658
FFXIV was the main reason Blizzard was forced to get its act together again (somewhat).
Competition breeds excellence. The sad part is there's zero chance that Square Enix will engage in an arms race like that in turn.
It'll slowly go into maintenance mode SWTOR style after the Zakuul expansions, keep making a modest profit off whales. And Blizzard in turn will see the competition has disabled itself and wind down on its own expenses again.

>>713501936
>hits positionals
didn't they remove mnk's positionals?

this is probably the next range job right? I can't think in anything else that doesn't look gay for ranged

Can my veena wear a hat yet?
I unsubbed after getting all the yokai watch things in EW.

>>713509991
Cannoneer or Blitzballer

>>713509991
>dual pistols
never fucking ever

>>713510007
Early August. Tthough not full helmets yet, those are still coming Soon™

>>713502112
>job rework
as usual they are going to fuck up mnk for some unknown reason and make you say "it was better before this".
it's like a tradition at this point. hell maybe they try to sell it as content

>>713502050
That’s if you clear, if you hit enrage because your damage sucks you will be removed.
I literally did this last week to a DRK. You might even get a full party disband.

>>713510017
cannoneer is already in occult crescent
>>713510060
why not? they literally did twin swords with VPR.

>>713510135
Monk and Samurai are in Occult Crescent too.

>>713502112
Zero faith in anything job related after what they did to BLM

>>713509959
Twin Snakes and RisingRaptor/True Strike only now, so pretty much yes.
I miss always needing one for every gcd.

8.0 will fix everything.
Trust the plan.

>>713509459
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>713509991
>>713510060
>>713510135
It's either some made up thing with a crossbow, or Corsair with a Hexagun.

>>713510112
The only thing you can truly trust in XIV is monk getting weird job changes

>>713504117
Hey, someones gotta be on the bottom

>>713510135
They literally said Occult jobs do not preclude the actual jobs getting added

>>713502836
Not even gonna entertain the sweet sweet idea of them killing off Wuk because itll never happen

Idk if they’ll even write her out of the story

>>713510325
crossbows are already in the LB and MCH has the auto-crossbow
also crossbows SUCK

>>713509531
Red is active characters
Blue is new characters
Green is characters who were active during that period but not during the next one.
The last bar is all green for now because there's no new period.

>Blitzer
Main GCD is a charged cast to throw the ball, hit damage based on how long you charge.
After the initial hit your job gauge activates, it's Tidus's overdrive minigame. If you hit the bar as it passes over the sweet spot the next GCD autocompletes and your character does a cool kickflip or something to shoot the ball back for max charge damage. You can maintain this indefinitely with proper rhythm.
Weave OGCDs and slick movement abilities while blitzing.
LB3: Ultimate Jecht Shot

why does it have such horrific sound design? Lionheart combo and Double Down are decent, but the rest sounds so fucking bad and dull

>>713509991
give us Gun Mage instead

When is BST getting added?

Adding more jobs wont do the game any favors.
Yet this is the baseline expectation for expansions now.
And I'm getting the feeling that they wouldnt put the effort into other parts of the game if they suddenly decided not to add more of them anyways.

>>713510456
Because people complained about it being too loud on release so for some fucking reason they made it sound like a nerf bat. Download the original sound effect mod.

is little takeshi still spamming his screencaps? worry about having kids before indians replace you lil bro japan is on the downtrend

>>713510505
We'll get BST 1-50 in 7.5, then the rest will be slowly dribbled out over the next two expansions.

>>713510167
You mean made it so most people can actually play it? Tsk tsk

>>713510571
who is this?

>>713509657
SB was pure kino you story only tranny

>>713504470
That’d be a very meh twist. They would have needed to set Shale up better and make more of a character for her prior.

>>713510682
It was certainly the last good expac, combat wise.
In both fight and job design.

>>713509110
I am still bewildered that FF XIV Mobile is a thing.

What will the next expac be?

>>713504470
Even if that's true, who really cares? The Oblivion guys are some of the most forgettable characters this expansion, which is quite a feat.

>>713504817
Does she count

>Cannoneer
Mix of AST and PCT, you start with three empty chambers and you can load ingredients in. You start guaranteed with two single target ingredients (Lightning Marble, Blue Fang), two AoE ingredients (Fish Scale, Bomb Arm), one support ingredient (Mega Potion)
Loading an ingredient is a long GCD but otherwise they're instant shots
Fetching new ingredients is an OGCD and somewhat random, you can combine new ingredients with your initial ingredients to mod your GCDs and upgrade throughout the fight.
Say you draw a Turtle Shell, you can load that into your Mega Potion to upgrade the heal into a regen + shield. Or load it into your Bomb Arm to make it leave a lingering fire puddle.
LB3: Leaden Salute

>>713504939
>7.3 is supposed to the the finale
The finale the fucking what? We had barely any set up for this conflict and barely had any breathing room after 7.0s conclusion. This is capeshit tier.

>>713510769
I heard it also have QoL updates that they aren't in the main game and I hope that's true because it'd be really funny

>>713510520
all the jobs play the same anyway, so they may as well give people more flavors

>>713510891
It took ten years for original XIV to go from 1 dye channel to 2
XIV Mobile has 16 dye channels

You gotta pay for them though apparently

>>713510870
Solution 9 finale. We might actually get a beach episode/goodbye in 7.4 and 7.5 will set up the next expansion.

>>713506010
Not in 7.3 neither are we getting BST
What the ruck man, why does it take till 7.4(5) to get this stuff? And they wont put them in the same patch together so you damn well know BLU will be in 7.55

>>713510870
>The finale the fucking what?
To DT's story. 7.4 and 7.5 will be setup for 8.0, just like how it was in every expansion not named EW.

>>713510927
its specifically because of this fact that adding more is pointless.
they keep churning out this samey shit and then still have to balance it and make armor designs for it.
its just eternally growing work load.

When will this happen?

>>713504817
I don't know if I'd call them my favorite favorites but the guy who wanted to propose and lady in grief that wants you to convince her friend not to commit suicide in Elpis left a big impression on me. Especially since they were trying to depict the ancients as too far gone at that point.

>>713503716
hes the beastmaster job trainer

>Gunner
Fast paced GCDs to emulate shooting two pistols at once, Renzokuken mechanics like Viper has. The Viper of phys ranged.
Trigger Happy forces you to stand still and mash like the QTE in WoL's fight, the longer you can maintain the mashing the more damage each hit will do up to a max of 10 seconds.
Backflip movement ability.
Potshot is a long cast GCD with a long weave window for those times you just gotta weave something.
LB3: Gullwing Salvo (there aren't good gunner LBs in the series since Ungarmax is taken)

>>713511189
If it’s not Lyon then you certainly know the devs are out of touch, that’s such an easy slam dunk

>>713511293
but that requires players to play bosnia

>>713511293
I don't want any more forced lala faggotry

>>713511189
>>713503716


In the days between EW and DT's launch i was totally expecting that fucker to be a bridge, costume changing to the representative Viper teaching WoL the ropes, or even as a BST, where both classes could have had some relation to why we met him as a roving gleaner to begin with and maybe have a little bit of a surprise contrast to his dour personality
What a waste, just fucking standing there to the side like a muppet over and over and over throughout the msq

If he really was just brought on just because of the fujoshis, they would have been given a fucking bone too anyway because the designers could run away with a costume change..

>>713511293
It won't be. BLU is accessible at level 50 right after ARR, BST is almost certainly going to follow the same blueprint, meaning that anything referring to post-ARR content won't be in there.

>>713501612
thats just the berseker outfit, beastmaster in V had you looking like a sheep

>>713511189
Btw, Pahntom Ranger is a pretty good indication how BST will work.

>>713511313
I certainly hope we're never required to play Bosnia

>>713511108
Oh and the lady that wants to grow her own plants without magic. Though that one has others call her insane so it's a bit less harrowing.

>>713511051
>balance it and make armor designs for it
so when are they gonna do that

>>713502836
>killing Wuk off
Huarchefant 2.0 lets fucking gooooo
leave her in the cuckshed where she belongs

>>713497978 (OP)
total barry victory

>>713510123
There's so much straw man in her video it's sick.
Nobody likes Wuk Lamat. People at best don't care.
Random joke npcs crushed her in the popularity polls.
The only actual defenders are the unhinged tribalistic troons who don't care for the character anyway.

>>713498967
every single outlet in that image is a pajeet run indian website

>>713511676
When is Wuk Evu coming back?

>>713510325
I don't get it
You can do a pirate dress up on every job.
Please don't tell me people actually care for Corsair being a bootleg Gambler.

>>713511398
I assume you can equip like 3 pokemons, and you can use 3 pools of abilities from them and maybe have like a unique skill or two.
Maybe if you capture a bird you can use those ranger skills.

>>713511721
Hopefully never. Who even like that cheater beside gay furfags?

>>713511771
I thought he was funny.

>>713511060
last resort, like it's going to be the red big panic button to prevent EoS

>>713502836
yoshi p would never. he was too based once and he paid the price.

>>713511765
It's just "What else?" at this point.
Corsair is one of the only things that fits for a pre-existing job that fits for Aiming and isn't overlapped by an existing job.

You can dress up any job as a pirate in XIV, true, (mostly Aiming) but none have the Corsair flavor really.

>wanting more jobs after the literal soulless abomination that was viper

>wanting more jobs after the literal homogenized jobs added these past 3 expacs

>>713512353
>>713512720
>sure, let's just have even less content

>>713509459
WE FALL

>Corsair
Hexagun with cutlass off-hand
Elemental shot filler GCDs
Primary kit is a series of Phantom Rolls that provide group buffs. Rolling a die gives a random number between 1 and 14 that determines the potency of the buff. You can reroll for a better number once a minute, for one die only.
Phantom Rolls last 20 seconds, playstyle is primarily about maintaining buffs.
No busting on your rolls because it's FFXIV.
LB3: Walk the Plank

>>713510393
thanks

>>713511293
and so was Edda

>>713503969
>It can't get any worse.
Do not tempt fate.

>>713511397
my bad you're correct wasn't thinking properly

>>713512770
>less content
YOSHI-P HIRE THIS MAN!

>Juggler
Gauge is an applause meter
Applause fills when using your three primary GCD combos, but using one combo for too long results in diminishing returns so you have to change combos regularly
Knife combo throws knives for heavy damage
Pots and Pans combo has an AoE range with fall off
Food combo inflicts debuffs, hitting the enemy with a pie lowers damage dealt
Filling the Applause meter enables Superball, you throw a big ball for big damage, the ball keeps bouncing around the arena walls and hitting the enemy for a while
HP Shout ability is a massive partywide shield
LB3: Toy Box

>>713512770
who the fuck thinks new jobs are content when it'll be a carbon copy of every other job in the game with its own 2 minute burst window

>>713513420
>>713512776
>>713511209
>>713510853
>>713510415
is this from an alternate universe where xiv has actual job mechanics

>>713513494
It's the Westwolves timeline

>>713513527
>A whole 5 new jobs that are actually unique
I shouldn't have shit on you so harashly westwolves bros...