I just unlocked the Oculus and I'm so lost. What the hell is going on.....
Fun game though.

>>713499692 (OP)
surprise alien pyramid is a good payoff for all that work, isn't it?

I just threw my hands up and said "fuck it I'm stealth bypassing depot A" again on like the 3rd character in a row. I think I intended to go here for more shops but I think I meant to go to the Foundry for a jackhammer and forgot

>>713499692 (OP)
One word: Dude's Other Quest

>>713500624
Not a big fan of alien presence, personally. But that's just me.
What's the needed stealth to successfully bypass Depot A?

>>713499692 (OP)
>stealth bypassing depot A
QRD?

>>713501080
There's debate if it's actually alien. IMO there's good evidence if you parse the Lemurian logs carefully that it could just be some superbig tech advancements by the corporations that went to Jupiter

>>713499692 (OP)
I've got like sixty hours in it and have never beaten it. Hell I've never accessed the DLC. I explore the rail system, hit core city and just burn out. Still like it though. I always make grenade wizards.

>>713499692 (OP)
Congrats, you unlocked the best shop in the game.

Heads up, we are definitely meeting the daughter of one of the Free Drones's South cell founders in Underrail 2. Because she lives in North Underrail, Dis specifically.

>>713501294
Looks mediocre to me....
I'm doing a knife build, I barely have to buy anything.

>>713501281
Have you done the arena?

>>713501196
I haven't completed the game yet but what I don't understand is why is it underground? If some big corpo went to Jupiter of all places and had succesfull space colonization, what's with all the underground stuff. I know the surface went to hell, obviously, but people have gone to space after that?

>>713500624
For me it's the disc cutter they use
Puck shaped thing which expands into a molecular thin sawblade when spun on a rotary device
Cuts even into condensed chunks of the fabric of reality
I need it for my workshop

>>713501672
Yeah only once though on my first character. They majored in traps so it was fairly easy for me.

>>713501080
>What's the needed stealth to successfully bypass Depot A?
only like 40 skill points or so, then buying stealth gear to get to the 80s makes it easy. can probably do it with less. The difficult check to pass is the 60 hacking needed to turn off the turrets. I had to eat Underpie for the last few points to do that. I've done it without turning them off with some tricky tricks but it's a headache.

Enter via wormhole in Depot A underpassage east -> The only real fighting you technically have to do is clearing the room of muties to your left in the southeast corner. The door + bear traps + molotov even at 0 skill level will let you clear that room easily enough though. -> get a key off the muties (can skip this key if you could 80 skill lockpick somehow) -> go to the northeast corner and disable the turrets -> vent your way to the southwest corner and use the ladder to Depot A south -> stealth to the eastern grid exit: if you can't sneak by the junkyard muties and their dogs, can't remove the trap via skill, etc. you can blow it with a grenade and hide or just equip something that can let you tank the mine hit then hide -> grid exit to Depot A east, stealth so the mutant dogs on the other side don't have a chance to see you and get into the control room on the east side of the map -> deal with the bot (isn't any harder than the things in the GMS compound) -> Use the console to unlock the underpass doors -> return the way you came all the way back to the Depot A underpassage East -> Vent over to the underpass doors to reach Depot A underpassage west -> vent over to the room with the 2 bots, 2 turrets, and a camera -> stealth over to the footlocker, grab the keycard -> vent back out and return to Depot A south -> stealth past the junkyard muties to the chainlink fence door on the north side (this is what the key you picked up earlier was needed for) -> stealth past a dog to the panel, open the shutter, grid into Depot A West and get the drill part

ta-da

>>713501603
he sells smoke bombs, be sure to unlock the extra inventory

>>713501732
it's underground because it needs to be underground to spy on Underrail.

If you haven't ever gone to DCs and finished the game it might not make as much sense to you yet.

>>713502231
Wow, great rundown, I definitely need to try this at some point. Especially on a future Dominating playthrough.

>>713501748
honestly I like the sci-fi imagination that was used for that part. The disc could just be a really really good non-newtonian fluid used in a creative way.

FWIW, my theory is that the whole thing kicked off when mars colony corporation techheads accidentally dee-dooed their science stuff across dimensions. it smoked mars, put Earth in the crosshairs (and set it on its underrail fate), and some jupiter colonies watched as they ascended into post-humans

>>713501732
I don't know what the anon is talking about but the humans in Underrail don't have space stations and never went to Jupiter otherwise they would've all fucked off to another planet instead of going underground when the earth was becoming uninhabitable.

>>713502625
if you enter via scrapper's entrance into Depot A south, you just have to do the same deal with that landmine to get to the ladder for the underpassage.

Even on Dominating I usually get most things done before completing Depot A though. The only thing I've never ever managed to deal with on any playthrough are the Lunatics, and I usually don't even attempt the stuff with the Burrowers. Everything else is always done though. It's a rather recent development of the "nah I don't want to play with these acid dogs anymore" that has me bypassing more of Depot A.

Is this like project zomboid?

>>713503021
They did both. If you fully investigate the supercorporations you realize old biocorp wasn't even close to being topdawg. The whole "Godmen are extraterrestials" is a lot of Azif's fanwanking and Six's posturing. Not much is known about Bionic Institute, Nucleus Corporation, and Transcendix but a cross-section of what can be gathered about those three could have easily created things like Oculus and Six. The Faceless can very much also be the product of those same things (especially Bionic Institute), and there's plenty to suggest The Cube is a manmade artifact yet it's important enough to Six.
Even Security Agency, which was the looked down-upon of the supercorps in terms of technowizardry, had developed orbital weapons. Mankind having colonies in the solar system were well on the table

>>713503127
no it's fallout

>>713503653
You need to lay off the juice man, the ayy lmaos did all the space shit that's in the lore.

>>713503739
Not really fallout either imo, maybe at surface level, but Underrail is way more build and combat based.

>>713503841
Yeah the only thing that's similar is the action/move point turn based combat.

>>713503743
the juice is what you use to see, dude

there's no direct evidence of ayy lmaos

I mean outside of the spooky shit that comes from the upside-down psi stuff. those are the ayyylmaos. I'm suggesting one of the T6 accidentally popped a dimensional pimple and that's a big why on where we're at, and the "Godmen" are just cyborged up post-humans who are watching with a little bit of concern. Especially since there's certainly some supergodlike-AI out there. It's very plausible.

>>713504095
isometric classless turn-based cRPG based on character creation skills, attributes, and feats?
uses guns, melee weapons, and mutant monsters in a post-apocalyptic setting with a lot of drug-use and punk elements?

not similar to Fallout at all

>>713503743
Horizon (another NFT habitat) is heavily suggested to be a location in Earth's orbit

>>713504171
Like the other anon said its just surface level similarities.

Reading this I am praying Styg doesn't go the Metro 2035 route. That shit was so gay.

>>713502287
Oh, I didnt know. That is very useful then. Sørmibæren are about to get fucked.

Should I go Pirates or Aegis on the first expedition run by the way?

>>713505121
Aegis. All the useful lore is accessed only through Aegis. Pirate is for that special dominating playthrough when you've got that weird one-off build

If Styg or any dev frequents this forum, please add a faction tab in the menu for Underrail 2....
I want to see who I am part of and a cool little faction emblem.

>>713505121
Aegis, the pirates are scum and it screws over the people and the economy in south underrail as if it wasn't already bad there.

I loved this game so much bros. Can't wait for Infusion. Fuck The Gauntlet though

>>713505446
>>713505484
Currently doing a knife build and Free Droning to boot. But as it's my first time with Expedition I will take the advice and go with Aegis. I want more lore.

>>713505746
Styg just didn't think The Gauntlet through. It doesn't even make sense lore-wise. Gotta be a top-quality gladiator that pulls in crowds in the Arena to be able to compete: no live audience ticket sales, 2 -or- 3 of your top-quality gladiators are killed by something dumb wearing dumb jumpsuits instead of in the bloody carnage of your Arena.

It's just dumb all the way around.

>>713505929
He was trying to recreate The Running Man movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Good flick but it doesn't work in Underrail especially since the challenges aren't nearly as fun as they are in the movie.

>>713506201
That pains me to hear, since there was a LOT of mapwork done to make The Gauntlet that could have gone elsewhere.

>>713505929
JKK has to justify the need to expand into other buildings

I played this a couple years back, got to the DLC, sided with the pirates and then felt so bad about it that I dropped the game.

Now I don't wanna replay it because I feel like Imma mess up my build.

>>713501603
Unless you aren't crafting he should be selling some good components.

Can you steal the gun from Wyatt?

Dude and Erza worked in the deep caverns right? But I have no idea who Erza was of the people mentioned there.

>>713507754
No, you have to kill him. I just did it

>>713507830
Ezra was the boss of Dude. Anton Matveev. Although, its strange because Ezra seems a very different person by nature in SGS compared to what he was in old biocorp. Ezra straight up helps you out and is a g

>>713508031
That’s sad and cruel!

>>713508171
not really. Wyatt doesn't attack without cause but there's not a lot of evidence he's a very nice guy. He's just a weird loner

>>713508227
That’s still murder even if morality is loose in the Underrail

>>713509087
*laughs in thousands of dead sørmirbæren, sørmirwomen and sørmirchildren

>>713508160
So many biocorp workers around…

>>713509479
Noooo!

>>713509479
Sømirbæren dømm dominate the looks of core city women.

>>713509479
If anything killing them is the more moral thing to do despite how much the ferryman bitches about it, with the savages its like taking down a rabid animal since they've all been corrupted by the shadowlith.

again, if you're asking for a good build: SMGs

1. SMG's already have very low AP cost, decent range accuracy and large magazines and with zero specialization other than having gun skill, they're already excellent plinkers
2. An ability you start with: for the AP price of 3 shots you fire 5 shots. That's a 60% increase AP efficiency
3. The AP cost to use them drops 3% per AP DEX point above 5, like other light weapons (pistols, light melee weapons). ie. At 15 dexterity it's 30% less AP to use them.
4. Craft them with a Muzzle Brake and they fire +2 more rounds per burst. Insane
5. Pick up Full Auto feat and they gain another +2 more rounds per burst. So now you're getting 9 rounds for the price of 3.
6. Get Spec Ops feat and it reduces SMG burst AP down to the cost of just two shots. So for the cost of firing 2 rounds, you actually get 9.
7. Can also craft them with a rapid reloader, dropping their AP cost by another -20%. And it rounds down every time, so a 16 base AP cost becomes 12, etc.

That's it. All you need is to make your own SMG and two feats and you've unlocked ridiculous power. Like 8.6mm Steel Cat firing out 18 rounds for 24 AP. Extreme damage. Oh, and Spec Ops with 2 points specialization has the side benefit of giving 3 turn cooldown flashbangs. Insane.

>>713510725
>bankrupts you in dominating in you are path

>>713510881
>he doesn't pick up every item and fulfill every traders quota every 90 minutes
ngmi

What's a good heavy weapons build?

>>713511280
Al Fabet is literally me....

>>713511449
Machine guns are so stupidly overpowered that I'm not sure it matters. I think my build on dominating looked something like this. All that defensive shit wasn't needed most of the time since everything just fucking died so quickly. Skills can be whatever, 20 stealth is so that you can sneak to the garage near sgs at the start of the game and get the bren gun.

>>713511449
>>713511890
Example of machinegun silliness

Is this game an actual RPG with roleplaying, narrative and reactivity, or is just a "build autism" combat gauntlet?

>>713512082
I liked the lore and exploration (for the first time anyway) but the only role you play is that of a deranged murder hobo who takes shoes from people he kills so he can sell them to afford more drugs and ammo. No real meaningful choices either.

>>713512602
That's a shame. Thanks, anon.

Which Oligarch should I join? My strength is 3.

>>713499692 (OP)
what's teh point of the heavy duty dlc? just adding heavy weapons?

>merchant refresh: on
>gypsy.obj: in the recycling bin
>emergency phone sounds: replaced with renamed sound effects
Yep, it's gaming time

>>713512787
>what's teh point of the heavy duty dlc?
Stygger needed some cash money moolah

>>713512787
It was an experiment from Stygs side, to give some feedback on their potential inclusion in Underrail 2.

>>713512750
Praetorian has chemical nades useful for dodge builds, jkk has gear that boosts lockpicking and persuation (especially if you have 5 will) and coretech has a decent electronic component selection.
There is also an option to bypass them entirely and progress the story with a completely different and somewhat secret questline.

>>713512750
Coretech lets you get plasma grenades early and have the best electronic parts.

>>713513019
Mmm JKK seems kinda superficial though I dabble with stealth and melee, my lockpick is already 100, and persuasion is a bunk stat.
What's the secret one? Sounds kinda interesting, lest I join Coretech or Praetorians I guess.

>>713513092
>early
I'll keep that in mind for Dominating in the future, because I am currently level 21.

>>713513124
There is an old hackerman named Phreak who's fiercely anti-authority and hates mostly everyone but oligarchs in particular, you can work with him if you find a way into his goon cave. I genuinely have no idea how you're supposed to find him without looking it up since both entrances are in unremarkable places and to spot them you need either very high PER or to go to one specific spot with night vision googles turned on and stare at a wall

>was looking earlier at something underrail-related on youtube
>see a recommended video in the sidebar
>UNDERRAIL | 2022 Guide for Complete Beginners | Episode 1
>Length: 2 hours
had a good chuckle, i wonder how many people have been put off on the game just because of a title like that.

>>713499692 (OP)
Im sure its literally years out, but im worried Underrail 2 wont properly capture what made the first so good.

>>713513925
Seller for me

>>713500884
That's an Expedition quest yeah?

>>713510725
Have you actually played what you are suggesting? 7 Strength for full auto is an insane waste of stats when you it should be your dump stat. Optimal SMG builds are always versatility DEX builds because none of the core perks require perception (opportunist + suppressive fire is a noob trap). Your damage comes from expertise, which is added AFTER opportunist.

Helpful forum maths I've not seen shared around which is applicable: reducing dr and dt stacks manipulatively. This is really important for smg builds given your individual bullets are quite weak. So you want to pick up expose weakness (which is fine because you're a versatility build), but not spec into it. I've done the calculations an it's around a 3% further reduction if you fully spec 5/5, which is much better spent elsewhere.

>>713519262
To clarify: this is stacking expose weakness and wc2 bullets

>>713501405
Infusion is not going to be in north though. Or continue ur1 story.

>>713519728
Styg has said its North Underrail with Dis and that it's not a continuation but a side story.

>>713519728
Why the fuck would he do that? Like what?

>reinstall Underrail
>pick a female MC for reactivity
>be level 11
>be on hard
>get the bright idea to play the mushroom mans quest since I've always just skipped that one
>grey army base
What the fuck did Styg mean by this? Thank fuck I'm not a conlet but fuck me this is hideous

>>713520048
Is there more reactivity for fem mc?

>>713520331
There could've been but Styg pussied out on prostitution. Imagine letting scrapyarders run a train on you and saving up on the 5 charon entry fee!

>>713520331
You can suck Ethan's cock to avoid paying for a psi ability. Only once though, I guess you're not good at it.

>>713520519
Kino
It could also alter some interaction with pirates and some other male quest NPCs

>>713519892
he's specifically said that it's *not* going to be in dis or the north underrail at all, but some completely different city.
>>713519928
if they ever get to implementing north, he wants it to be big and ebin. would take too much resources to do it now along with the new engine.

>>713521215
He said Dis will appear, Hexagon will not, but NPCs from there might.

Wait no Hexagon?
What the fuck?
Is he retarded?

>>713521515
expansion bait maybe

>>713520331
not him but on my second playthrough also picked a woman and rushed the gray army base for tp.
The reactivity is that the Russians don't have woman in their army so you can't use the disguise mechanic of this level.
So if you are low level and have no stealth you are fucked.
You can even try to strip to seduce them but they don't care (I think, I can't read russian) and try to kill you anyways.
I had to reload

>>713521515
Why are you so horny for hexagon

>>713522210
Because he hyped it up as some amazing tech hub with tons of stores and other nifty shit.
Why would I not be horny after the dump that is core city?

>>713522302
This is pipeworking zoner talk! I won't stand for it!

>>713522202
What's worse the line of sight is bugged so you can't stealth it either

>>713522202
>>713522576
The Grey Army is famously gay, talking to the Free Drone guy pretty much confirms it.

>>713520331
Off the top of my head
- Grey Army base social stealth is impossible.
- Ethan gives the first TM spell as a freebie to women.
- When doing the Jack Quicksilver quest to get the spy out of prison in Foundry you get an additional dialogue option to pretend to be his wife, without having to pass a persuasion check or having done the Beast quest.
- The rape dungeon escape bit in Foundry can't happen to women. You instead have to lockpick and hack in there to find the evidence.
- Dude has a few comments about having a dream featuring a naked female PC with siphoners. There's also some other small bits here and there, like Briggs initially doubting you when joining Aegis (and potential extra STR check to flex your muscles), or additional dialogue option with Razor about big boobs (PC apparently doesn't have any lol).

why are heavy duty encounters so tedious
i miss my jetski

>>713523769
overtuned experiment

>>713523865
those dogs fucking disabled my grenade
it's tiresome

>>713523769
You rike?

>>713523769
Styg's Serbian Masterpiece.

>>713523769
Wow looks like I will be having a lot of fun with my fist build...

>>713499692 (OP)
Infusion is just around the corner right bros?

>>713512082
>>713512602
>no meaninfull choces
>do I join the Black Eels or the scrappers?
>do I join the protectorate or the free drones?
>do I join JKK, Coretech or should I go for Praetorian Security instead of the other 2?
The game even has the classic fallout type of ending where you are told the destiny of characters and entire factions depending on the decisions you made while you played

>>713513925
You don't need any of that. You won't even remember most of what he say on the video. Just play the game (pick a build from internet if you're lazy to restart and fear to fuck up your own build). The game is not near as complex as most people make it out to be

>>713499692 (OP)
what weapon pairs with psy the best?

>>713526234
This. It's not really that complex at all as long as you don't waste your skillpoints on "soft" skills. Pick a weapon, pick feats for it, enjoy

>>713526326
All of them

>>713526079
none of those choices are really meaningful

>>713526860
What is a meaningful choice to you? I will not say the game is not more railroaded than fallout (like 95% of the rpgs are more railroaded than a game designed around choices tbqh) but it's also not elder scrolls level of linearity. The destiny of some factions and characters is still at your hand

>>713526326
TM pairs well with everything as it's basically a cheat code.
If psi is your main focus and you want to use it to kill things you don't really need a weapon, maybe some grenades. You can get a staff or two with psi buffs in expedition though.
One weapon/psi combo that exists is cryostasis shatter. Combine MT with a high damage weapon like spear or sniper and you get some neat synergy. You can turn one enemy in a group into a bomb and set it off with a spear throw/sniper shot and you can shatter tough enemies with cryo induction feat.

>>713527174
Wasn't pure psi gutted by the nerfs?

I am at the Institute with a Knife/TM/Stealth character. Still have to do Expedition and Heavy Duty. Ain't gonna lie, now that I'm very op the game is getting kinda boring, and I think there's still a big chunk of the game left to finish. Is a Sniper/Pistol build more fun? People say full Psi build are the funniest, but I find playing "mages" in rpg to be pretty gay. It's not my kind of fantasy

>>713527297
Not really. You are not a literal god anymore but it's still perfectly viable on dominating. I would say it's considerably less fun since you have to really pick and choose your schools/abilities with slot restrictions and psi cost penalties and part of the charm of the old psi (besides being stupidly overpowered) was the massive selection of different cool abilities you had at your disposal. S*rbs just hate fun I guess.

>>713527676
>I would say it's considerably less fun
I mean, that's pretty much the same thing in a single player game

>>713527520
Underrail is a solid 20 hours too long and no build is going to fix that.
-Deep caverns are an absolute fucking slog and will probably make you drop the playthrough, but you do learn some cool lore and story stuff
-Expedition is a completely self contained story and the writing in both dialogues and lore/story bits is a massive improvement over the base game, would recommend
-Heavy duty is just pure combat with hardest encounters and highest skill checks in the game by far. Probably the last stop unless you want the cool toys it has (machinegun, giga plasma cannon and an energy pistol to be precise)

>>713527798
It still has its moments though

>>713528065
Yeah, I'm kinda feeling that. I feel that I should be fighting the final boss at this point, because other than passive feats to make my character even stronger, there's not much more the gameplay offers. I guess is still worth doing Expedition, most people seem to agree, like you, that it has a better story than the main game

>>713528065
Game ends at Carnifex