Thread 713501920

Devs forced you to destroy the Brotherhood to prevent him from being the obvious correct choice.

>>713501920 (OP)
BoS? more like PoS LMAO

Which I don't get the brotherhood was always pieces of shit faggots that love putting explosive collars on people and killing poor farmers cause they got a shitty laser pistol. Killing the brotherhood and siding with house is the objectively correct choice and anyone who thinks otherwise is a mentally stunted idiot

>>713501920 (OP)
>playing second fiddle to some old beef jerky in a suicide pod

>>713501920 (OP)
I tend to destroy the BoS regardless of who I side with.

It just makes him even more based. The brotherhood are retarded hypocrites.

>oh noes the devs forced him to be in-character and it violated my retarded headcanon!

did you not listen to his big technocrat speech or pay attention to how meticulously he plans everything? his plans would have made him enemy #1 of the brotherhood, he was just eliminating them before they became a problem

>>713502340
I don't disagree with him

>>713501920 (OP)
The Brotherhood always gets destroyed. Fuck them.

>>713502074
>brotherhood
>explosive collars
>killing for technology
Uh... is this Tictacs lore or did I miss someting in 1, 2 and 3 where they were the generic goodguys?

>>713502913
>1
>generic goodguys

>>713503647
>kills government for human testing
>takes in recruits who just want to help the world
>fights the super mutant menace when no-one else would
What did they do wrong?

boom boom da steely brothas.

>>713502913
The explosive collar is in New Vegas
>>713503990
>takes in recruits
Lmao the Glow is a suicide mission, you weren’t suppose to survive. They fight the super mutants mostly because you tell them they amassed a big army and that attacking their base is the best solution. Their initial plan was to just wait for all muties to die due to their lack of fertility

>>713501920 (OP)
>Can't even get a poker chip delivered after hundreds of years
>Retards actually expect him to be able to deliver on any of his grandiose plans for the future
Housefags are just stupid.

>>713503990
They have good intentions but execute them poorly. The point of all the factions in Fallout is that there is no good option

>>713501920 (OP)
"Forced" implies I didn't want to do it, Veronica.

>>713502913
>explosive collars
>killing for technology
>both happen in NV
>once more NV faggots proven to be tourist

>>713504546
>Veronica
I like killing her after killing her loved ones.

>>713501920 (OP)
literally just made me want to side with him more, the BOS are insufferable faggots and the mojave chapter is fucking pathetic and commited to dying in their hole anyway, may as well finish the job for them

>>713501920 (OP)
The only reason people like the Brotherhood is nostalgia for the previous games, there really shouldn't be any reason the courier holds any sort of sentimentality or good feelings towards the BoS unless you're just trying to make veronica happy.They're a bunch of sekret club techno-feudalists with next to no redeeming qualities other than they have cool armor

Getting rid of the Brotherhood is a logical choice. They’re an annoyance preventing people from advancing. Functionnal states have developed in the wastes but they still want to act like the bombs fell 10 years ago and that there is nothing else to do but to play with laser pistols in a bunker.
They can’t really measure up to real factions like the NCR or the Legion. But they can be a pain in the ass and do dumb things like destroying gold mines

>>713503990
>kills government for human testing
It was Maxson, not the Brotherhood that did it. It didn't even exist at the time.
>takes in recruits who just want to help the world
Send potential recruits on a near impossible quest to die as a joke, you mean.
>fights the super mutant menace when no-one else would
Only the Elder was actually concerned about the super mutants. You have to convince everyone else to help you by scouting the military base alone. And the Followers were much more willing to help the protagonist fight the mutant threat.

>>713504531
>Vault: isolationist, very warm and friendly to you... until it's over
>Brotherhood: isolationist paladins, friendly to you
>Water merchants: money grubbers, won't say no to money, shares a trading settlement with criminals and a cannibal
>Shady Sands: losers, but losers who have each other
>Boneyard: slave drivers, at best just a harsh reality of living in a dangerous world that hasn't rebuilt yet
>The Blades: goodguys but originally intended to be morally grey
>Followers of the Apocalyse: goodguys
>Killian/Gizmo: obvious choice that is more straightforward than Bethesda morality of viciously gut the puppy in front of children or pet the puppy (also the puppy is obnoxious and ugly), originally intended to be morally grey (unless you think Killian's original outcome is actually a good thing, which isn't wrong)
>Necropolis: cannibals who merely tolerate your presence and tell you to not loiter, even if they like you their zombies will eat you in your sleep
>Children of the Cathedral: 100% badguys, teaches children to spit in the face of people who refuse to accept flowers
>The Master: 100% badguy, 100% bad end to side with, 100% failed plan
I feel like Fallout 2 has a paragon of goodness option, the NCR, who were only written as um bad actually in NV. I'm not sure if NV pointed out the curious slaver tolerance, the police state (though everyone deserved to be arrested in 2, cannibals, rapists, slavers, drug cartels, thieves) or if it only cared about its brahmin oligarchy and hereditary dictatorship. Oh and your tribe is completely good, if retarded.
Oh and then there's the furry faction who are ultimate paragons of goodness who surpassed humanity, unless you didn't kill that one scientist who sends a deathsquad to clean out the vault.
Or the other bit of terrible writing being Broken Hills where the author genuinely thought a mass murdering conspiratorial rapist super mutant was a faultless goodguy and humans were stinky for being scared of death.

>>713505748
>Brotherhood: isolationist paladins, friendly to you
They literally try to send you on a suicide mission to the glow when you meet them, fully expecting an idiot wastelander like yourself would just get irradiated and die and only accept you reluctantly because they gave you their word

>>713504698
Sorry anon, I've forgotten most of NV.
It's a bit of samey blur to me beyond penis toes, several gay characters, Boone's quest giving you a free room, dead money deciding speech checks are wrong but only for one character, ghouls in rockets, "Can I take your package, Benny?" -> Sandman, and something about tunnelers being bad but I was more preoccupied with very healthy deathclaws that wouldn't be out of place in Point Lookout.

>>713501920 (OP)
But the Brotherhood sucks ass and he's still the obvious correct choice?

>>713501920 (OP)
>destroy bos in f1
>bos gets wrecked by the enclave in f2
>destroy bos in f3
>destroy bos in nv
>take down prydwen in f4
total brotherhood of steal annihilation

>>713505748
>I feel like Fallout 2 has a paragon of goodness option, the NCR, who were only written as um bad actually in NV. I'm not sure if NV pointed out the curious slaver tolerance, the police state (though everyone deserved to be arrested in 2, cannibals, rapists, slavers, drug cartels, thieves) or if it only cared about its brahmin oligarchy and hereditary dictatorship.
NCR in 2 also had no problem dealing with Bishop in order to annex Vault City. They were the nice guys but still flawed

>>713505517
>>713506008
>openly recruited until the super mutants showed up
>gives retards anti-rad chems and warns them about rads
>doesn't yell at you if you actually complete their quest: it's a standard hero's quest similar to threedog's radio tower quest, except unlike threedog they actually reward you and treat you like a brother
Rad-X makes you immune to rads. Why are you scared of a warm tingly feeling?
Were there even any corpses in the Glow that weren't from the original expedition or freaky greys?

>>713501920 (OP)
>>713502340
just install the dummied dialogue choice mod and sideline them for him lmao

>>713501920 (OP)
Yeah, it feels like that.
These days I use the mod that uses in game cut dialogue files that you broker a truce/leave them alone.
It feels kind of pointless to blow a bunker with now mostly irrelevant BoS and antagonize the rest of the faction back in the West that does serve a purpose to tie up NCR some.

>>713501920 (OP)
did he not know the Brotherhood was building an empire on the East Coast? did he expect his Securitron army to protect the Mojave from an elite Brotherhood expeditionary force?
using robots and holding the dam would have made him a target regardless, but blowing up a whole chapter seals his fate.

>>713503990
That time they wanted to shoot up the Hub because the Water Merchants pissed them off

>>713501920 (OP)
Brotherhood would be mortal enemies of House because of his use of technology. It makes sense that he'd want them gone.

>>713508852
>East Coast
lol
lmao

>>713508296
>antagonize the rest of the faction back in the West
If there were any BoS back in the West the Mojave Chapter would be with them. The entire reason they're in Hidden Valley is because NCR won the war so hard the entire organisation split up into chapters that fled into the wasteland to hide. They were only at HELIOS One because Elijah wanted the orbital deathray he learned of. McNamara is content to hide in lockdown for years because he knows he can't confront NCR directly and if he tries to leave they'll be tracked down by Rangers, so he waits for some signal that some other chapter has done the heavy lifting of bringing the disparate groups back together at a new base. But that hasn't happened because it's not going to happen. All the ideologically flexible members of the organisation left before the war to crash in the Midwest and play Tactics, the ones that were left are the idiots who started a shooting match NCR and no way of dealing with the inevitable failure.

>>713501920 (OP)
he is right though, there is no way the BOS will fully side with him, best case scenario they pretend to be on his side and help house kill all the other factions but will slowly and sneakily try to kill house too and will take any chance they get to steal his technology, house and BOS simply cant coexist and house knows this

>>713501920 (OP)
Huh? I nuked BoS on my own volition, I remember both of us being surprised when he asked me to do it afterwards.

anyone have that mr house meme of the courier accessing the terminal and mr house's head is turning looking to the right of him

>>713508852
Yes sir the brotherhood is very strong sir