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Anonymous No.713511689 [Report] >>713512064 >>713513114 >>713513845 >>713517570 >>713518558 >>713519079 >>713519098 >>713520748 >>713521404 >>713521947 >>713521956 >>713523326 >>713523328 >>713523426 >>713523648
>The only game released so far that didn't have any performance issues, ran on 10+ year old cards and CPUs while being able to play on good graphic quality settings and still remains the best looking game of the same year ( DS2 rivals this soon ) , in the entire 2025
what went wrong with gaming?
Why do devs insist on using UE5?
Anonymous No.713512064 [Report] >>713513053
>>713511689 (OP)
>Why do devs insist on using UE5?
so they can outsource 70% (or more) of the game to china.
Anonymous No.713513053 [Report]
>>713512064
or india/korea
Anonymous No.713513114 [Report] >>713514369 >>713515223 >>713522043 >>713522984
>>713511689 (OP)

Clair Obscur runs great and also don't have any performance issues.
Anonymous No.713513456 [Report]
One weird thing I've noticed with this game's performance is that it does not seem to scale with DLSS. You get negligible performance improvements going from DLAA to quality, to balanced, to performance etc, even with near 100% GPU utilization on each one. I wonder if maybe the engine is not optimized to use DLSS and so the upscaling has a larger overhead than with most games. I've been playing on DLAA for this reason.
Anonymous No.713513845 [Report] >>713516921 >>713517718 >>713519175
>>713511689 (OP)
>shitting on UE5
KCD2 runs well not because of the game engine, but because the devs sat down and optimized the shit out of the game.
Anonymous No.713514369 [Report]
>>713513114
Not open world like KCD2
Anonymous No.713515223 [Report] >>713516328
>>713513114
it runs ok but could be much better for how it looks and how linear it is also the main reason is that it was made in ue4 and ported to ue5
Anonymous No.713516328 [Report]
>>713515223
>frenchindians fell for the UE5 meme instead of staying on UE4
ngmi
Anonymous No.713516921 [Report] >>713517023
>>713513845
so why don't UE5jeets won't do the same?
they have much higher budgets than whatever Warhorse had.
Anonymous No.713517023 [Report]
>>713516921
Why spend money on optimizing when people buy those steaming piles of shit regardless?
Anonymous No.713517358 [Report] >>713517785
performance doesn't matter.
as long as it looks good enough in the trailer, it will sell.
as long as it sells, shareholders will be happy.
Anonymous No.713517570 [Report] >>713517785
>>713511689 (OP)
either because they're lazy cunts or because execs keep rushing them to show results before end of the fiscal year, probably both
Anonymous No.713517718 [Report]
>>713513845
this

one of the devs talked about having a major breakthrough later on in the development process
they said it ran shit before that
physics is somewhat nerfed but trader off was these bigger towns with a dense population
Anonymous No.713517785 [Report]
>>713517570
>>713517358

also this
they shit whatever is "good enough"
because normies will slop it up
Anonymous No.713518558 [Report] >>713518606 >>713518648 >>713519570 >>713520132
>>713511689 (OP)
Did they get rid of saviour schnapps? That really bugged the shit out of me in the first game
Anonymous No.713518606 [Report]
>>713518558
no
just don't use it
Anonymous No.713518648 [Report] >>713518759
>>713518558
they're still there but way easier to make and obtain now, beds also save your progress so like idk why people seem to get filtered by it.
Also the quests now have autosave feature, unsure if it already existed in the 1st game.
Anonymous No.713518759 [Report]
>>713518648
People hate firction
Even if it's something as little as planning your routes so you can save on the bed
Or cooking up options
Anonymous No.713519079 [Report]
>>713511689 (OP)
>Why do devs insist on using UE5?
Cryengine was actually a notoriously poor choice for KCD, it took them two games and nearly 12 years to wrestle it into submission and even then, the game is incredibly janky thanks to it, and cost dis-proportionally more than a game of that size would on many different engines, including Unreal.
Cryengine was actually so damn bad there was a brief period when the studio didn't even want to make a sequel to KCD1, and it was only the later and very generous Embracer investment that convince them to go back to it.

As much as I personally dislike Unreal too, there are very, very good financial reasons why companies return to it. And honestly, the poor performance really can't be blamed on Unreal engine itself either. Much like with Unity, the chronic performance issues of Unreal games boil down to low internal training standards and lack of priority assigned to optimization during development. You can make a very well optimized game on Unreal, and one with very distinct visual identity too: but either requires extra work that the developers often don't want to invest. After all, the dominance of Unreal comes from just that: it's cheap. It's a LOT cheaper to develop for than any other engine.
Anonymous No.713519098 [Report]
>>713511689 (OP)
Looks okay but I remember the rain looking kinda weird when I played
Anonymous No.713519175 [Report]
>>713513845
I am pretty sure you'll get arrested and put to prison for at least 6 months if you try to optimize your game on UE5.
Anonymous No.713519570 [Report]
>>713518558
>Did they get rid of saviour schnapps?
No, but the save system is overal FAR more permisive. Schnaps is cheaper, easier to make in batches, and pretty much litters the locations around the world, so you barely ever even need to pay for it.
They also added proper checkpoints along all quest lines, which are themselves honestly quite generous, and they don't disable them even on Hardcore (which is the way you should play the game, ideally with the numbskull and tapeworm traits).

Now saving is something you only need to check out every 5-10 hours to see of your stockpile needs restocking in case you did try to save-scum some particular problem away, otherwise, you really, really won't be lacking for saves. Hell, outside freeroam, you barely need any saves, the mid-mission checkpoints are a plenty.

Personally, I actually think this was not a good decision. They should have doubled down on save schnaps. This compromise solution is really half-hearted and makes you wonder why it's even there, the tension is so reduced that frankly, you might as well just get the unlimited saves instead - as it stands now, schnaps is just a minor inconvenience and won't really achieve what it is supposed to do: encourage players to go on with bad development and commit to a decision.

Schnaps was a good mechanic, that wasn't very well balanced in the first game, but what it needed was actually the opposite of what they did: it needed to be more limited.

Thankfully, pretty much every aspect of the game is - just like the first one - modable. If you don't like limited saves, it's a matter of two clicks to remove it, and correspondingly, there are many mods that actually lessen it's accesibility too.
Anonymous No.713519582 [Report] >>713519925
Your woke slop was outsold by Stellar Blade.
Anonymous No.713519925 [Report] >>713520403
>>713519582
bot?
Anonymous No.713520132 [Report]
>>713518558
>Savior Schnapps
The very idea of it pissed me off in the first game and I instantly installed a mod to remove it. But I've grown to love it in KCD2. It's actually a really neat restriction and gives a nice pace to the game. Pay a session then save and quit. Role play a day and sleep and save. If you want to save scum a particular section, you can go forage some herbs and brew some schnapps which is not all that unpleasant. It's a nice way to pace the game and actually lets you feel like you've earned the right to savescum.
Anonymous No.713520194 [Report] >>713520463 >>713520495
what ever is the point of praising a games performance if the visuals are last gen?

>wow good job at defeating : none of your competition
Anonymous No.713520403 [Report] >>713522151 >>713522801
>>713519925
Nah he's fighting a very important battle that definitely means something
Anonymous No.713520463 [Report] >>713520685
>>713520194
It's one of the prettiest game out there and also has some physics and decent npc ai
Anonymous No.713520495 [Report] >>713520685
>>713520194
>if the visuals are last gen
retard
Anonymous No.713520685 [Report] >>713520808 >>713521269
>>713520495
its doing literally nothing advanced
>>713520463
it looks fine, just not great.
something like witcher 3 or cp pushes hardware to its limits at the launch but this is just kinda basic
Anonymous No.713520748 [Report]
>>713511689 (OP)
>ran on 10+ year old cards
Because it was an asset flip of a 7 year old game?
Anonymous No.713520808 [Report] >>713520915
>>713520685
I don't care how much a game rapes my gpu
I am happy if it looks pretty
Most games can't even do that and look like plastic slop
And it is impressive for the size and lack of any loading screens
Anonymous No.713520915 [Report] >>713521250
>>713520808
Only bethesda forces loading screens, the rest of the industry has moved past that now. Witcher 3 was like that a decade ago.

You seem to be praising the art direction instead of technical competency. Sure it looks more cohesive than japanese medieval rpgs that slap some ahistorical nonsense together.
Anonymous No.713520985 [Report]
E33 ran well, even on older hardware it wasn't a piece of shit, despite being UE5.
Anonymous No.713521250 [Report] >>713521330
>>713520915
W3 and even cp277 has ps2 ai and little to no physics
Anonymous No.713521269 [Report]
>>713520685
>Shitcher 3
>post DOWNGRADE
>CP77, 30 fps on 5090 with all the bells and whistles turned on
ahahahahahahaha
Anonymous No.713521327 [Report]
>added ugly low res clouds to block the kino sky from the first game
Anonymous No.713521330 [Report] >>713521436
>>713521250
what games do you play for the AI and physics?
Anonymous No.713521404 [Report] >>713521584 >>713524201
>>713511689 (OP)
They made it gay, so no one cares.
Anonymous No.713521436 [Report] >>713521591
>>713521330
Tear down
Mgs
Dishonored
Bio shock
And other ones
Sure alan wake 2 looks better but there's nothing impressive about that game
Anonymous No.713521584 [Report] >>713523180
>>713521404
>announcing in public he chose the fag route
stay away from kids freak
Anonymous No.713521591 [Report] >>713521769
>>713521436
dishonored is press teleport button to kill enemy
latest bioshock is pretty much on rails shooter

I dont really get it. Aw2 has more nuanced enemy behavior than those
Anonymous No.713521769 [Report]
>>713521591
Dishonest argument
Anonymous No.713521947 [Report]
>>713511689 (OP)
not playing your woke game
Anonymous No.713521956 [Report]
>>713511689 (OP)
Too bad it was filled with gay woke shit.
Anonymous No.713522043 [Report]
>>713513114
It looks awful due to the UE5 blurriness and artifacts tho.
Anonymous No.713522151 [Report] >>713523135
>>713520403
seething
Anonymous No.713522313 [Report]
>Nintendo India have arrived sir
Anonymous No.713522801 [Report] >>713523135
>>713520403
>games are political
>nooo not like that
kek
Anonymous No.713522984 [Report]
>>713513114
that’s because it doesn’t look great. even the battle animations are abysmal
Anonymous No.713523135 [Report]
>>713522801
not really
>>713522151
what are you talking about?
i never said that
Anonymous No.713523180 [Report] >>713523493
>>713521584
>problems go away if you ignore them
60iq brown take
Anonymous No.713523234 [Report] >>713523965
>ue fags:well we got really height quality assets look closely at that tree stump
why can't you arrange them in a pleasing manner like KCD or jap devs
Anonymous No.713523305 [Report]
>problems go away if you ignore them
Anonymous No.713523326 [Report]
>>713511689 (OP)
Could have been gone if it hadn't gone woke due to Blackrock money
Anonymous No.713523328 [Report] >>713523536 >>713523618
>>713511689 (OP)
this game literally proves that gamers won’t buy woke games. literally no one gave a shit about this game and the first was a cult classic
Anonymous No.713523426 [Report] >>713523557
>>713511689 (OP)
>0.000001 rupees has been deposited into your account
Anonymous No.713523493 [Report]
>>713523180
>go to porn site
>pick the gay category
>surprised onions face
Anonymous No.713523536 [Report] >>713523618
>>713523328
the first game sold way less in its first year than KCD2 in mere months after its release rn
also this board always shat on KCD1 because of muh /pol and now its the same thing but opposite, really funny.
Also immersive sims never sell more than 5 million tops, look at MD, oh wait thats considered woke here as well.
Anonymous No.713523557 [Report] >>713523680
>>713523426
i thought jeets loved UE because they use it primarily
Anonymous No.713523618 [Report]
>>713523328
this >>713523536

and they are literally the expanding the studio
>yeah but 4 fags on 4chan and 3 codex faggots are really upset
Anonymous No.713523648 [Report]
>>713511689 (OP)
You could have summarized all of this by simply saying "its a pc game".
Anonymous No.713523680 [Report] >>713523852
>>713523557
How did you get an argument against UE out of OP's horrendously shit post shilling wokeshit?
Anonymous No.713523852 [Report] >>713523976 >>713524235
>>713523680
>OP's horrendously shit post shilling wokeshit?
you are a mind broken retard
not everything is culture war or shilling
sometimes people talk about different aspects of videos games on a video game board
Anonymous No.713523965 [Report]
>>713523234
>why can't you arrange them in a pleasing manner like
It's because it takes time. It's also because it's not just a question of visual design. Kuttenberg is equally propped up by the efficient use of space for content, by the number of and variety of the quests, in ways that it keeps you in the city and forces you to interact with it while constantly changing tone and structure of the quests. Shit like the miner quests lines or later the Italian job do make you look at the city differently.

KCD2 really made me look back on those Ubisoft shitshows and made despise them. Hell, even CD77, while at least having fantastic visual and environmental design (seriously, whatever you may think of CP77, the city itself is a fucking visual art work, there is no way around it), mangles it by major issues with content, absolutely wasting like 95% of its space and even what is populated, the quests feel like a dead space, it feels like it could take place literally anywhere.

KCD2 nails this aspect, visually and quest-design-wise, which is incredibly rare for games these days.
Anonymous No.713523976 [Report] >>713524302
>>713523852
>Can't answer the question at all
I accept your concession.
Anonymous No.713524201 [Report]
>>713521404
That's how I feel. Vavra should kept his blood urges in czech.
Anonymous No.713524235 [Report] >>713524406
>>713523852
>you are a mind broken retard
Why do you think you can change the opinion or behavior of a shitposter? These people do this shit for attention (or some of them are literally paid, though these days ruskies really eased off on places like 4chan).

You responding, in any way, regardless of what you say, is what he demands and encourages him to do it more. There is no point to this shit, you are feeding attention to an attention whore. Just don't waste your time on posts like these. Not only it saves you time, it actually is the only thing that may discourage this kind of shit in the first place.

Find posts worth responding to instead. God knows they are rare to find but it's better then feeding these poor children.
Anonymous No.713524302 [Report] >>713524471
>>713523976
it is an argument against UE because UE games have terrible performance and performance issues even on newer hardware
Anonymous No.713524406 [Report]
>>713524235
>0.000002 rupees has been deposited into your account
Anonymous No.713524471 [Report] >>713524865
>>713524302
Just say you're a poorfag thirdie. Really, it's alright. Most of /v/ is right there with you.
Anonymous No.713524865 [Report] >>713525082
>>713524471
>call out terrible practices
>you are just poor lol lol lol
enjoy the slop
Anonymous No.713525082 [Report]
>>713524865
>you are just poor lol lol lol
This but unironically.