male bros....they don't want us

>>713519014 (OP)
I stopped playing gatchas today
I feel so free
Damn I should've done it earlier
No dailies
No hp inflation
No mechanics locked behind dupes
Ah yes
Freedom

>>713519247
zased

>>713519014 (OP)
>Not enough males
Or maybe characters in major gacha games in general are only seen as fapbait and gameplay functions, with players begging for a new husbando to fap to and carry with half-assed stats.

>>713519247
Congratulations, you beat the sunk cost.

>>713519014 (OP)
Males are good though so you can skip and save?

>>713519247
now you just need to keep of it for 2 weeks until your brain starts getting used not having a second job

>>713519247
Welcome to freedom, brother.

need more shotas

>>713519014 (OP)
no shit, all we're getting is fruity twinks

>Character gets 2 paragraphs of attention before moving on
Happens 7/10 times. Sorry player, your fave is not mainstream unlike generico here who got a big fan following. Better luck next game.

>>713519014 (OP)
>not enough men
who cares?
it’s not like most of us care about physical representation, we just want a good game and an mc we find cool

>>713519014 (OP)
Lumping reind

>>713521248
...second?

>>713519014 (OP)
it's called capitalism and it's telling you that you're a minority

>playing gacha instead of fapping ot the characters' fan art

>>713521424
We can bring him back with our magic eyes if we believe hard enough.

>>713519014 (OP)
That's because gacha games keep making males that cater to women (and homos). In fiction we have:

- Female characters that cater to the male audience...
- Female characters that cater to the female audience...
- Male characters that cater to the female audience...

>But only in the world of gacha
Male characters that cater to the male audience don't exist.

>>713519014 (OP)
>make game targeted mostly to the male demographic
>"why are there not enough male characters in the game?"
Ok?

>>713521376
Every game should have shotas.

>>713519014 (OP)
why don't these CHUDS just play that female oriented gatcha that prints money with men

>>713519014 (OP)
>THE PROBLEM WITH MALE CHARACTERS IN GACHA GAMES

They dont sell as well as women unless its a full faggot game?
Its not some complicated shit

Just make the female characters blush and moan when they get hit by the male ones.
Thank me later for the billions china.

>>713519014 (OP)
>add more men in gacha
>revenue tanks
>put ugly characters in
>revenue tanks
>put niggers in
>revenue ranks
Never listen to western chuds. Asian gacha primarily appeals to the Asian market. Whatever westerners are into is not the same as what Asians are into.

>>713519014 (OP)
>>713521847
Remedial reind

>>713519014 (OP)
There is literally a game made for fags and women. Go play that

>>713520412
>males are good when females perform the same function as your post except the game doesn't get filled with more males
homo

>>713519014 (OP)
gacha players operate on a fully deranged mindset when it comes to males existing compared normal game players

>>713522607
even in mmos males make more female characters than male ones

>>713519014 (OP)
Instead of playing shitty gachas with a handful of men, I started playing shitty gachas that had only men instead.

>>713522481
The genius thing about westerners is they haven't figured out why marvel, superhero, lotr, Harry Potter, and every TV show and movie is underperforming.
Now they're insisting that the Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese follow the pitiful western model especially when Asian games are making more money now than ever.

>>713522487
It's for fujos I prefer men that won't kill me or who lack any manly trait

>>713519014 (OP)
It's only a problem in master love/harem gachas where the target players literally shake violently if they see another male other than their self insert MC.

>>713522481
>add more men in gacha
>revenue tanks
How did Dante and Virgil do with the PGR crossover?

>>713522481
The best-selling region of the best-selling gacha is a lineup of ugly Indian and Arabic men.

>>713522481
>"Do what I say!"
>"Why? I've been successful on my own."
>"Do it because I'm a westerner and you're just a chink bug!"
>"Fuck you and go back to playing CoD and Apex."

>>713522298
What a midwit argument to make. Men are fine with male characters in games. The exception is when said game is meant to be fap material for straight males.

>>713522694
name?

>>713522531
>skipping girls
okay homo

>>713519014 (OP)
because gachas have a target audience retard, catering to that target audience is correct
every miniscule percentage of retards who break containment and infect your game screeching BUT I WANT MORE GAYS I WANT MORE HOT MEN should be laughed at and ignored, as has always been correct. if they want that they can go play love and deepspace, where they are the target audience.
it is quite easy to add males to gacha games occasionally, you simply do not make them have any romantic or sexual interaction with any character whatsoever, you make sure they aren't gay or a nog, and you have them be the bro archetype to the mc. it's simple stuff
they're still not going to be popular really if you do this, but they can exist and it's not a problem. fgo has plenty of males, nobody is raging at merlin

>>713519014 (OP)
do gacha fans really think about cuckoldry when they see a guy in their game? pretty wild

>>713519014 (OP)
I played Genshin for like 5 hours. If I could roll for cool dude like Dante or Jetstream Sam or Vash or Gintoki, I would play for more than 5 hours, but no. It's always some fujo or otonoko bait.

>>713523127
Another Eidos

>>713523158
i end up rolling the same amount of girls when they only release girls retarded homo, no one is falling for your men are good psyop

>>713522854
none of the homos in sumeru sold better than the females

>>713523357
I'm sure you have liked some girls irl in the past, right? Those girls probably were around other guys, that were more attractive than you. That would make you feel in some way whether you want it or not. It's like that with gacha games with males in them but amplified a million times
Personally I don't really care about males in gacha because just like how another anon said here, they help you save for the next girl you like but I hate when they make them meta and literally force to get them

>>713523686
>That would make you feel in some way whether you want it or not.
No, not really.

>>713523686
none of them are real though.
It's just fiction

>>713523791
of course
but some people don't wanna think about reality and just want to live happily in the 2D world with their 2D waifu

>>713522694
>anthro
Boring! Safe male.

>>713523787
the people that don't feel anything in a situation like that are either attractive enough to not care or they don't like girls

>>713519247
fucking liar

>>713523563
Big surprise given there were exactly 2 new female 5*s across 25 banners. 3 if you count this brick they put on standard

>>713519014 (OP)
>release male
>make shit money
>"Damn, no one wants males"
thanks Inspector Faggot

>>713522854
Genshin never recovered from 10 straight male banners and every other company decided to not release more than 2 males a year

>westoid opens up his mouth about a self-insert protag all-female waifu bait game
>"WHERE ARE ALL THE MALE CHARACTERS???"

Why does this happen every single time without fail?

>>713519247
I realized gachas could never be good when Honkai Impact 3rd went full retard like 3 years ago.

>>713522854
>ugly
i'd really like to execute you rn

>>713519014 (OP)
Why don't women just make their own triple A gacha like genshin/wuwa/zzz with a 5:1 male/female ratio and prove males can do well?

>>713519014 (OP)
Question: Do westerners have the power to change this?

>>713524192
Isn't that what nikki was supposed to be, before it killed itself

The only time that people are okay with male characters is because of one or more of the following
>game isn't just obvious fapbait, so it doesn't need to appeal to your dick
>the guy in question is cool and/or fun as fuck
>the guy is an established character now being made playable

>>713524230
No
they all cried about genshit not having enough blacker than night niggers and nothing happened
Their VA haggling attempts failed too

>>713523984
I don't care about girls who don't care about me and if she cares, I'm the only one, no other copies, why would I care about other men

>>713524274
never seen a gatcha kill itself harder than nikki what the fuck were they thinking

>>713522481
I'll be honest and say I want more male characters in gacha because I'm gay and I have no interest in women.
I wish more gays would come out of the closet and be honest with their feelings.

>>713524454
Muv Luv just announced a 5th gacha

>rolling for homos in gacha

>>713524136
Yeah man, achieving peak revenue and then tanking afterwards means that the high revenue era ruined the game's sales.
Why were you spending so much money with 20+ homo banners to skip and only 2 waifus to pull?

>>713519014 (OP)
You don't need male characters in games besides the protagonist who is a self insert

>>713524562
>achieving peak revenue
which homos had nothing to do with

>>713519014 (OP)
I play as my female self insert and want to be surrounded by only females, so no I don't want stinky men in my game.

>>713521916
the first one is posting here

>>713522854
>best selling region
you know why

>>713524503
You are the most honest gay man in existence
If only gays would come out and proudly declare they're gay before stating their opinions, lots of problems would be easier to understand.

>>713522084
This
All we get are homosexual effeminate faggots
Give me a damn dude that's not a faggot and I'll pull
I never played genshin but capitano was loved from what I heard and did they do?
Kill him
You why, he wasn't gay enough
The problem is not the players but the faggot developers that hate male characters
Probably got bullied in school a lot and that's their petty revenge or whatever
All gatcha Devs are faggots
You will get endless goonbait but you will never get a male char that's not a complete homosexual effeminate twink faggot
>Muh players don't pull
Yeah, they look like faggots and play like faggots
No shit

>>713522854
>He thinks it's because of the male characters
You are retarded.

>>713519014 (OP)
Males in gacha should be cool if they really have to be added

>>713524579
what if the mc needs a friend?
women can't be friends

>>713519014 (OP)
Granblue is basically the only gacha that hits a good mix of male and female characters, that includes sexualization. Of course the actual game is typical gacha shit but thankfully they're freeing the universe by putting it into actual games like Versus and Relink

>>713524614
>>713524771
>>713524849
As meta-breaking as Nahida was, her best-selling double banner with Nilou couldn't touch Raiden and Venti's solo banners and neither Inazuma nor Mondstadt were as lucrative as Sumeru with the nonstop worm banners.

Can't relate. I only play gachas full of men (Dragon Ball)

>>713525021
You have a stupid mascot floating with you as your wingman

>>713525021
NO! They might betray me and fuck my harem of girls behind my back. Thats why I burn or delete any male character pulls

>>713522694
but what if I don't want to fuck dogs like you do

>>713525387
ugh no thanks
>>713525481
just fuck your friend to keep him in check
simple as

>>713521376
This

>>713519014 (OP)
Are all the males in gachas metrosexual twinks or outright traps?

>>713525346
that doesn't count
saint seiya, naruto, one piece or any shounen game don't count

>>713519014 (OP)
Is it true we cuck this guy really hard in the next patches?

>>713519014 (OP)
Just make more femboys.

>>713519247
Based and same, I dropped gachashit altogether around 7 months ago. Never looked back, had so much more free time.
What's the game that did it for you, bros? For me it was Limbus Company.

>>713525673
Elysia is a whore in every game she is in so not really

>>713525631
The only gachas I've played that are different than that are Genshin amd AFK Journey. I like to pull for cool guys like Wriothesley, Neuvillette and Natsu. Only time I pull for female characters is when they are broken. I never understood waifu pulling. I want to play as powerful and cool looking dudes.

>>713525805
Basically he sacrifice himself and we get to date her gf in the past going in back in time, so yes.

This is PGR

>>713526064
These all look the same

>>713519014 (OP)
It's too much for the average gacha player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QynOfFz4vI

>>713525975
thanks for the spoiler, faggot
fuck you

>>713519247
FPBP

>>713525957
none of those males are cool
capitano, dainsleif and probably zongli are the only ones I can say they are cool

>>713526718
Wriothesley is cool. He use ice bro

>>713519014 (OP)
Who the fuck wants to pull for male characters? I want a waifu collector.

If I want to pull for a guy, then it has to be from something like Dokkan.

>>713525957
>neuvillette
you're gay

>>713526787
he's gay furrybait shit

Check this Gigachad (manlet model) I just pulled.

>>713524192
rpgs/action games/open world games are played by majority men as the main demographic, no dev is going to go out of their way to lose that audience

>>713524274
nikki is a dress up sim focused on rolling for clothes

>>713519247
>gatchas
sure

>>713526806
I'm a dad I relate to his relationship with Furina

>>713526869
How do you mean?

>>713527014
pets aren't a replacement for real kids, anon

>>713522607
I get why paid characters all all hot women, but removing male npc and such is wild to me. Its like some people are so pathetic that even in their fantasies they could never imagine having a chance with a woman if other men exist.

>>713519014 (OP)
The problem with male characters is they don’t make them look cool. They make them look like bishi guys. If I’m going to play a male character, I want to play some tragic undead knight wearing 300lbs of armor, not some shirtless guy with a coy attitude.

>>713527145
No I have a daughter. I don't like pets in the house unless they are birds. Dogs and cats were never for me personally. Parrots though are great.

>>713525631
They should count, as counting them would only further prove it's about the quality of the male character and/or who is target audience for that male character, rather than the character itself being male.

>>713519247
see you in a month

>>713519014 (OP)
>Waifu collector game gets popular
>Westerner logic enters the room
>we need more men
everytime

People like to say that female characters in gacha games are only about the boobs or ass but being real as a male I feel like I can get any type of girl that I like in gacha games lolis, older women, flat chest, big chest, cute designs, edgy designs, tomboys etc but when it comes to guys is always the same type of twinks just look at fighting games when it comes to male designs they know how to make dudes of all types

>>713527176
that's me
but I don't care that much about males in games, at least not to the point of dropping the game or rageposting about it

The only gacha I play is infinity nikki
>b-b-b-but the 1.5 drama
Never really cared or bothered me.

>>713525346
B-B-B-B-BASED

>>713527935
tldr about the drama?

>>713524794
Limbus has literal faggots being part of the main cast yet they keep making badass men and women, the chinese simply cannot make good games I fear

No real man plays as a woman and no real man plays gacha. Gacha is for troons and sometimes f*jos. Troons hate men because they hate themselves and f*jos only want femboy twinks. There's no reason to add male characters to gacha because they won't appeal to the tranny loser audience that whales on the game and they will always be faggy twinks instead of real men.

>>713528080
They gutted and retconned the story. The game runs even worse now. And they added a pointless clothing item that can’t even be seen to a gacha outfit which boosted the pity total from 200 pulls for the full outfit to 220 pulls.

There’s more but those are the three I remember.

vocal seaniggers who seethe at male characters despite self inserting as a male mc design that looks and acts nothing like them either are the bane of gacha communities

>>713522853
We don't know yet, the game also gives everything for free so I doubt westerners would ever bother spending on it. Wuwa is kuro's cash cow, PGR is a passion project nowadays.

>>713519014 (OP)
Unfortunately, NTR/cuckoldry/cheating are some of the most popular fetishes in the world. They're completely incompatible with waifu/harem content, yet these people will do and say anything to get their fetish incorporated into your waifu game. They use lying, shaming tactics, slow frog-boil tactics, bribery - whatever works. Don't fall for any of it.

>>713522854
>best selling region

If that is the case than we would be getting the same shit in Fontaine and in Natlan. But we didn't.

>7 new male in 3.x
>only 5 in 4.x, 4 of them is frontloaded in 4.0 and 4.1
>further reduced to 4 in 5.x

>>713527014
>i have a headcanon so i relate to this gacha character
you're gay and so is Neuv

>GACHASLOP NEEDS MORE MALES!
What we have here is a case of secondaries screeching about being gatekept. Gachafags know male characters are a bad sign because male gacha characters are only made for
>women
>faggots
>trannies
>fujos
Wuwa is the only popular gacha currently whose males aren't total bait for the undesirables listed above, but even then they still have faggy shit like eye shadow and long as fuck hair.

Why can't gacha devs simply make cool male characters that men, autistic SEA men, fujoshi women, and women can all enjoy?

>>713519014 (OP)
Fags like me are way too smart to spend money on shitty gacha games so I'm not surprised.

>>713526806
>>713528584
I don't believe homosexuality is legal to include in Chinese media. Why do you see gays everywhere? Are you American?

>>713528814
why do you enjoy a character that wears makeup and eyeshadow? do you see why people say these characters pander to homos and women?

>>713528738
>I type nigger so am smart

>>713528365
>seaniggers
You mean chinks.
What the fuck is a gacha dev going to care about a few thousand angry sea players? Even global as a whole doesn't move them. What the gacha devs actually fear are the chinks because there's so many of them and they cannot be shamed for demanding they be pandered to.
>you hate male characters? um, insecure much?
>actually, you're trans since only a tranny would want to only play women
>i-incel!
This shit doesn't work on them.

>>713528814
Actually, China is the only communist country not to ban or entirely purge faggotry. Not saying Neuvillette is fruity but just spitting some facts.

>>713528945
do chinks really spend this much they can force a studio to change their game?

>>713528714
>fujoshi women
also known as women girls

>>713528914
>why do you enjoy a character that wears makeup and eyeshadow?
Read a history book and you'll understand. Those flamboyant faggots were more manly than this entire thread combined

The only time I'd care about males in gacha is if he is a mecha or a skull faced demon

>>713529017
Not only do chinks spend a lot more, there's also a lot more of them. Western players consider being fully f2p a point of pride, and many will even shit on those that do spend. Meanwhile, chinks will flaunt how much they spend on their gachas of choice.

>>713529254
well that's very sad they are this insecure

>>713529169
i'm playing a gacha not reading history. no modern men want to see or play as a dude wearing makeup unless they're gay

>>713529169
>um, ackshually there's historical justification for male characters wearing faggy shit like make up
don't care. you put that character on a banner, I ain't rolling.
simple.
as.

>>713529308
Call them whatever you want, they get their devs to bend the knee.

>>713529042
some gen z retards on 4chan think fujoshi include men gotta be clear with this kind of thing these days

>>713529441
doesn't make them bigger beings, they are a horde of bugs which think shark or tiger teeth dust could enlarge their peckers.

>>713529254
Westerners grew up with buy2play so it's what they're accustomed to though that's fading away as new generation picks up gaming. Then there's f2p with MTX which, afaik, got started in the east so they see it as perfectly OK to spend entire paychecks on 1 game because paying for power is seen as the norm there.

>>713529683
don't jeets also have this mentality where flaunting bad spending habits is seen as a show of strength?

>>713528914
Are men demanding for female video game characters and idols to wear makeup? Making your face attractive is simply something that actors and actresses must do even if a minority in the audience feels that it's immoral. Even the president has to get his face powdered before interviews so that his face isn't greasy and shiny, that doesn't mean he's "pandering to homos."

>>713522324

Every shotafaggot should have bullets in their brains.

>>713529797
No idea. I don't look into jeet mentality. I know gooks do considering the prevalence of pay2win mechanics in their mmos.

>>713519014 (OP)
>"A life without it [same-sex camaraderie] would be crippled. And for my part I have the deepest suspicions of those wretched people who find no pleasure in the society of their own sex. Heaven protect me from a man who needs only women and a woman who needs only men!"
-C.S. Lewis

>>713529650
>doesn't make them bigger beings
Never said it does, and it really doesn't matter either way. What matters is they get their devs to pander to them.
On the other side, western gamers get shamed and shit on too but without even getting what they want.

>>713529336
The modern man also doesn't know how to dress correctly and they all look extremely bland and boring. Gacha characters are supposed to stand out, I'd rather pull for a visually distinct dude over a recolored version of the male MC

>>713529995
you presented in a way as it being a win for them

>>713519014 (OP)
more like too many sexy male character designs are stuck in gacha

>>713529683
It's not about paying for power or advantage, it's about showing support for the game.
For example, back when snowbreak was riding high, some chink posted a video to bilibili about how they dropped something like 10k on snowbreak after quitting their main gacha after getting burned. It wasn't to flaunt how much power they paid for, it was basically a 'fuck you' to the other gacha and it's players. It's entirely tribalistic.

>>713530043
>players get a dev to do what they want
How is that not a win?

>Multiple loli centric games
>Amost none shota centric game

>>713526064
This is NTE

>>713519014 (OP)
I refuse to play any game that caters to fujos, even if it's one banner. They ruin all discussion of the game and are astoundingly ignorant about simple game mechanics. Not to mention they will eventually irrationally hate the game due to some small slight, imaginary or actual.

>>713519014 (OP)
There are gachas with a lot of male characters but not many people play them, seems like youtubers only know about hoyo, kuro and the random gachas that trend for a week.

>>713524562
The best selling banners during Sumeru were Nahida and 1/2.x characters (namely Raiden, Ayaka, Hu Tao and Yelan). The problem with the homo banners is that once everyone had those characters there wasn't anyone to pull on. How they handled Neuvillette and Furina was the final nail in the coffin for the game.

>>713530441
>that furry male
This shit is so dead on arrival lmao

>>713522687
Because there's no point in being a man, if I had a choice in real life I wouldn't bother with it here either

>>713530791
They probably saw it worked for zzz...

>>713522607
>>713527176
>reee my normalfag brain hurts must lash out at things I don't understand
You wouldn't want to have fujos near your game either if you knew what you're dealing with.

>>713529828
i have to genuinely question if you're retarded because what you're posting definitely is.
i'll reiterate- MEN DO NOT WANT TO SEE A HOMO WEARING EYELINER TO ROLL FOR IN MALE CHARACTERS.
This obviously cannot apply to female characters because men are completely fine with women wearing makeup and eyeshadow/eyeliner.

>>713530441
these look like honkai characters wtf

>>713519014 (OP)
With all the cucks running rampant I wont blame the players for being like that, for example we always have a schizo in the genshin threads calling the players cucks because the main character (who is basically a self insert) flirts with the female characters.

>>713530950
>They probably saw it worked for [hoyo]
Story of the gacha industry ever since genshin took the genre mainstream. Thank goodness snowbreak instigated some course correction.

>>713530950
It worked for ZZZ because the wolf guy looked like a generic hoyoshit male but slightly more muscular and with a snout + ears + tail. This guy's head looks less humanoid.

>>713531079
They look more like vtuber rejects

>>713531091
>we always have a schizo in the genshin threads calling the players cucks
To be completely fair, genshin treats its MC like a cuck. It's funny how wuwa has been giving the MC more and more voiced dialog each patch while paimon is still speaking for the traveler.

>>713530441
these look like vtubers

>>713531091
That's the wuwa shill, snowbrakshill used to do the same in gfl2 and nikke threads, these people have their own discord where they get paid, and wuwa can't stand on its own

>>713531147
It worked for ZZZ because hoyo has a massive built in audience that includes furries, trannies, faggots, and women. The kind of people a big hunky wolf man in bondage would appeal to.

>>713519014 (OP)
>hurr not enough men
>HSR has been jerking Phaenon off harder than anyone in the game aside from Firefly
Ok

>>713531465
>hoyo has a massive built in audience
That, I knew.
>includes furries
I didn't know that.

>>713530441
Peak

>>713531467
I mean in quantities. The disparity in ssr males still pales in comparison.

>>713531653
Heads are a little too animal for my liking.

>>713519014 (OP)
Just go play love and deepspace then
There's nothing but kpop men there

>>713530441
>>713531079
>>713531303

>>713531464
This, everytime some product sell less than the competition they always use the cuck, tranny, women cope

>>713531049
Who claimed we should specifically want it? Men don't want male actors wearing makeup to watch a movie either. But every actor does, because that's what makes them attractive to 99.9% of the audience and therefore the director and publisher demand it. You have to be extremely retarded to skip movies or ignore characters on the basis of their wearing makeup.

>>713525227
stop making shit up you retarded dilweed. in the first place nahida's initial banner is her best selling one dimwit, why the fuck would it be a rerun.
secondly, none of the homos sold more than the female reruns in suumeru and the worms flopped

>>713531951
nta but you're being extremely disingenuous.

>>713531309
See, this is why they don't add male characters. Even a mourning scene triggers the gacha players brains into thinking they are getting cucked.

>>713531464
I didn't knew that lol. At least the guy above proving my point seems to be a wuwa player.

>>713531467
He wasn't thrown on your lap while pausing the story and each flamechaser or whatever banners were called had time to shine

Gachaslop doesn't deserve cool male characters.

>>713527176
ngl, this shit gives me massive superiority complex, knowing that people as pathetic as that exist

I kinda feel bd2 cockblocked itself with that retarded name (why even acknowledge the dead and much worse first game is beyonds me) and having males

>>713531951
Not him but it's priority. For the average (straight) male to roll for a male character that character needs to be really cool. But since males in these games are designed to sell to women then they are always pretty boys, so men don't want them.

>>713531464
It's just jealousy, fun fact kuro tried to bait fujos and furries at first, they didn't get much attention so now they act like
>A-actually, we totally didn't need their money

>>713519014 (OP)
Stop making effeminate bishis. Give me some scarred, grizzled 7ft badass swinging a 90lb sword and I'll summon. I'm not buying your fujobait.

>>713531951
nigger no male actor is wearing black clearly visible eyeliner that makes them look like a drag queen, you are homosexual and are just proving the point of why males are beginning to be released less and less in these games

>>713531951
he knows he is

>>713532450
Sadly, most of the designated playerbase (asians) consider femboys badass and "manly" and gruff men to be ugly and/or gay.

>>713532443
>kuro tried to bait fujos and furries at first
Kuro was going to go the hoyo route until GF2 and snowbreak triggered a vibe shift in the chink gacha industry.

>>713522298
There's a shit ton of women playing gacha shit. go look on twitch.

>Dammit incels!
>Why dont you allow other male characters in your harem game. Insecure much!?
>Just accept niggers, ugly women , trannies and emasculated males like we do!
It's funny to see some fags mock the Koreans for standing their ground and not get subverted like their cucked selves.
I dont play gacha shit but I applaud its fans not letting corpos of their games cuck to the west.

>>713532919
They are guests in our space and should act accordingly.
>twitch
nigga...

>>713524995
but you posted a faggot with effeminate beard
picrel is what I would roll for

Add as many cool looking or whatever men but the loli must stay, the loli must stay

>>713533049
What about the time a vtuber got upset over a female character having a trailer that also featured her with the male MC and got butthurt over it on twitter?

>>713524995
>real world Gregor is a sad but likeable failure
>almost every mirror Gregor is a hyper-competent psychopath
It's got to be really stressful for him every time he wears a new ID and it gets reinforced that he is the worst possible version of himself.

>>713519014 (OP)
Don't know what he's talking about, there's plenty of men in the gachas I play.

>>713527176
So the part that Snowbreak removed were the Logistics, which is a mini-gacha for equip items. Imagine if Artifacts in genshin were a support crew, instead of random objects like a clock or cup.
Nobody playing Snowbreak wants to roll a gacha for boys.
The game still kept the men it had, like Modak or Joe, but it also doesn't add any new ones. The villains are all women now (basically just evil counterparts of your squad of retard girls).

>>713533043
>durr Koreans le based
Koreans are the ones who make all male characters into effeminate sissy twinks in the first place. Retard.

>cool monster
>cute girl
if it's not one of these I won't even bother trying to pull for it

>>713535036
>Koreans are the ones who make all male characters into effeminate sissy twinks in the first place.
Because baras and old men are for fags.
See >>713534769

>>713532789
>Snowbreak's success from fanservice reignited lewdness in the game's industry
>but everyone just copies them without crediting them
Damn.

>>713523357
No they think about the annoying fujo/shipfaggotry infesting the game once there are guys in the game
All discussions turned into shitflinging and gender wars, just like there are femcels seething right now in all genshin discussion because there are not enough male characters in the game
The only game that is ok to have male characters are PvP gacha, because just the aspect of PvP filter out all the subhuman

>>713519014 (OP)
Chinese writing is pretty fucky, so not just design but maybe personality is sheer garbage. But I like Phainon. I don't like Phainon and Mydei. Phainon is guaranteed to be a busted roll too, I guess. I don't like Hoyo's writing though. I like WuWa but the foreseeable Resonators being all women is really fucking depressing, especially when 4 star characters are being phased out everywhere. Japanese games and JRPGs are never going to go away, thankfully.
>>713530441
High chance that the dudes are permanently NPCs or that'll be all for the rest of the game's lifespan.

>>713536330
I don't like Phainon gameplay will rely in other two busted support coming next patches. Was enough to babysit Castorise to do it again in the same chapter.

>>713519014 (OP)
It's simple
You either have boys only or zero boys
No mixed toilets

>>713519014 (OP)
Ah yes, thats exactly what gacha players want.

>>713536330
am still pissed Mydei died like shit

>>713537492
Aglea as well and offscreen even haha

>>713537638
she had a more dignified death and a more fitting end with her prophecy

>>713537638
No one was expecting anything better of Aglaea since hags are almost always treated like shit by MHY.

>>713519014 (OP)
>story is being heralded as the next best story in gacha ever
>read it
>it's just decent, and it's just redoing of an already decent story
Genuinely not even worth the 20+ hours to read it

>>713537927
Pretty sure that's WuWa. HSR is generally agreed to have peaked with Belobog.

>>713537725
Offscreen is offscreen. Prophecy or not. Pissing herself could also count as bathing in gold lmao

>>713519014 (OP)
Arknights has quite the number of males. And all of them pretty good. It also has some DILFs.

>>713519014 (OP)
i know i don't want male characters in gacha games.

>>713519247
I beat it a year ago when I took the fighting game pill

>>713537797
I don't understand this sentiment, she proved at the end she still had humanity in her while also forcing Phainon to step the fuck up. Meanwhile Mydei had 0 meaning behind his quick besides the authors not knowing how to end him, I cope it means he knows Reaver is Phainon and trusts him with everything

>>713538032
she helps them at the very end tho

>>713519247
you know you can do all that in under an hour and keep living your life, right?
i actually do all that in corporate time.

>>713538030
PWuwa is just decent too, difference is that it takes 1-2 hours to play through a patch and you can instantly tell what parts to skip, while hsr is 10+ hours minimum
At least they finally learned and will make a skip button

>>713522607
Meanwhile nikkechads love the male characters and go insane when the male protagonist isnt featured

>>713537927
Even the director said it was "too ambitious for its own good" and apologized for the poor reception. He was talking of 3.0 and 3.1 but I guess still applies.

>>713538391
Oswald is GOAT.

>>713538321
Mydei also helped buying time, he got backstabbed that was also predicted, a bit on your face. Flame reaver identity was a given. Funny Castorice helped but offscreen as well.

>>713538321
My point was more that people already expected nothing from Aglaea so her dying offscreen meant less to people than Mydei dying.

>>713519247
youre not fooling anyone when you don't even know how to type the genre's name

>>713524995
>post the prime example of why gacha games dont add more males
>every single female character fanart is shipped with another male character
>half of the discussion are shipping and headcanon
Also the story is extremely overrated and can only impress ao3 slurpers and roblox kids

>>713538262
>i got scared by the nutsack and jumped straight at the cock.
congratulations, anon.

>>713538391
>>713538494
Nikke story is actually very enganging at times but the dumb collabs cripple the pacing, its even worse that important events only spam in anniversary or half anniversary.

>>713530728
What happened with neuvilette and furina?

>>713538391
Don't be an idiot, many love the mc as well. He actually more proactive than others.

>>713538594
Just don't interact with twitter and your problems will be magically solved

>>713538524
yeah I expected a bit more inventivity, which is the knack of those greek tragedies knockoffs. Cypher's one was agood for instance

>>713538969
Too op? Is the only thing I can think off. The shipping never made any sense, there is still a lot of mc x Furina art being spammed nowadays. If anything Natlan didnt get much attention.

>>713539052
>>every single female character fanart is shipped with another male character
And yes, fanart is important to a gacha game, or else mihomo and kuro wont host those fanart contests

>>713538969
Neuv was objectively stronger, despite Furina being an archon. Furina was much worse in comparison.
Neuv didn't even have the gnosis until after Furina's release, so he was just insanely strong (and had a bug that made him even stronger), while Furina was a risky healer support unit.
Hilariously, Neuv sold like absolute shit while Furina did amazing. Almost as if Genshin fans roll for women instead of guys. Furina was the first 5* limited female unit released in literally a year, the last one being Nahida. Every single new limited banner between Nahida and Furina was a man, and they ALL flopped.

This seems like an especially china problem
Their fujos must be pretty oppressive to not let a single non-fagboy through

>>713539230
Important to bad gacha games because characters literally stop existing after their month of release so the only way to get more of them is through fanart, not a problem with limbus, hell you even get the dumb AUs and clothes swap in game

>>713539338
Furina is a strong support even the main support in all the current strongest comp

>>713529504
you just have to teach them that male fujoshi are called fudashi
>>713519014 (OP)
Notice how this shit only happens with gacha games, where characters are inherently products.
Like, you never see people whiming about how they are playing as Duke Nukem.

>>713522854
You mean it was the last region where Genshin still had zero competition from other 3D gachas and it still damaged the game so heavily with the full year of only male banners that it never recovered and Da Wei had to literally cry on stage begging players to come back.

I know I and many others literally dropped the game because of Sumeru/Fontaine and never bothered to come back.

>>713519014 (OP)
>women want to ruin another male safe space

>>713539546
Yeah, because supports last longer than DPS.
But at the time, Furina was objectively worse and people were begging for a buff.
But only males get buffs.

>>713539583
Duke Nukem will get an "anime" made by Adi Shankar. America has different problems.

>>713519014 (OP)
They make all male gacha

>>713538594
do you know a game with a better story? im looking for something to keep me entertained between updates

>>713525748
Wuwa and zzz

>>713539906
GFL 1

>>713539906
just play a normal game dude
why you gotta be weird

>>713539997
i play normal games the stories just aren't as good or entertaining as limbus

>>713539052
The problem is that the devs still interact with twitter.

>>713519247
you will be playing Uma Musume: Pretty Derby™ when it releases tommorow, right?

>>713519247
Anon beat his gambling addiction

>>713539906
Library of Ruina
Astlibra Revision
Chrono Ark
If you actually read novels, start with Lord of Mysteries

>>713539981
i dont like gamer where all the characters are girls

>>713519247
imagine speaking and spacing like this. gachas mind and buckbroke you

>>713540196
ur gay lol

for me, it's sparkleposters

>>713540246
Esl

>>713540329
sneed

>>713540251
its gotten very boring all anime girls are the same because the developers have no creativity to give them personalities that go beyond the same 7 anime trope ones

>>713539906
Limbus is very original in that regard. The gacha is just the same characters but different outfit, thing is the story is focused in just 12 characters and the costumes are your characters impersonating another npc and bosses you fight. Its pretext is that in paralel universes that character could have been an assasin or the leader of another squad.

>>713537326
Dragalia lost spotted. Upvote issued.

>>713519014 (OP)
They're all dolls that you play around with no one who is an adult really cares if they're all girls or not.
Compare this to a game like Dota were you play ugly fucking characters exclusively for their mechanics

>>713540251
Nah that's u.

>>713525346
Unironically the most based take kek

Because gachas are doll collection games for low test faggots and women. If they for some reason add male characters they have to make them look just as feminine as the girls. Nothing cool or high test allowed in those type of games.

>>713540616
>Its pretext is that in paralel universes
This shit ruined the lore and story of LoR, since we know during canto 6 that parallel universes have different time frame, and the jobbers antagonist have ways to contact with people from different timeline, but somehow the head with their almighty cant and let the library in LoR roam free until it becomes big enough

>>713530441
>Furry
Kek

>>713540976
The head is the biggest enigma for me. He was triggered by Angela becoming human actually.

>>713539370
that's just asians in general.
japanese fujos don't want to see burly men or older men or ugly men, either, they want homo twinks like Faa-san or chinese Faa-San (Fagnon). MAO goes in to orgasmic convulsions over Sandalphon.

>>713522481
>Appeal to western chuds
>Furry units are the only ones people remember
What did Lilith mean by this?

>>713519014 (OP)
femcels have their own gacha game which has a much higher budget than any of the ones aimed at men

the more likely I am to roll anything that isn't a cute girl, the more likely I am to not play your shit at all
letting women and faggots have any leeway is how you get pozzed garbage like how western gaming is

>>713522607
>>713538391
Some of snowbreak's best NPCs are dudes who are manly, happily married with a wife and kids*, and bros to the protagonist.
And those guys received no backlash from being present because they were cool and didn't interact with the female player characters in the same way that the potential playable male gacha character (a slender flamboyant pretty boy at that) did which caused that response.

>>713537326
this USELESS ネグロ robbed me of Melody THRICE and I never forgave him

>>713530283
>Muh support
Multi billion companies are not your friends
Literal subhuman behaviour

>>713522607
imagine feeling threatened by the fucking player avatar lol

>>713531825
Accurate and spot on

>>713522687
That's not true, tranny.

>>713541843
cope

>>713537326
Playing Star Rail and WuWa makes me miss what Dreguri offered. I was too harsh on it.

>>713519247
>"gatchas"
you don't play shit you fucking liar

>>713530003
>>The modern man also doesn't know how to dress correctly and they all look extremely bland and boring.
This is a complain many girls have told me. Modern men don't even try to groom themselves.

>>713519014 (OP)
>Majority of playerbase is male
>Men like women more than they like other men
>Men are more willing to spend money for girls than for males
What's so surprising?

>>713541205
>Primarchs
To be fair, they were well written in WMTSB but after that, Cygames only really tried with Lucio's FLB trust events.

There's a male character shortage in the Anime community as a whole.

>>713525748
The one week delay was a blessing in disguise
By the time you can shard the character, the hype and interest is completely gone, so the game ends up having dead months and no content 90% of the time

>>713540196
there's guys

>>713542154
Cumbrain simps do not speak for the majority of men.

>>713542574
Aren't the women cards super nerfed compared to the men?

>>713541368
What the prettyboy defenders like to ignore about Snowbreak was that Ling Yi was a complete asshole and counter-productive to the story.
They even legit turned Ling Yi into a girl in year 2 and brought him/her back, and the character was so negatively received (despite being a girl) that the devs pretend it never happened and the wiki doesn't even list the character as existing, despite official stickers implying she was going to become playable.
Snowbreak fans don't have a problem with men existing, it's that nobody wants some full-of-themselves character around flirting with their girls.

>>713542364
>The one week delay was a blessing in disguise
Oh yeah, absolutely. That and the fact that Director said he's planning to drag Limbus along for 10 years completely killed my interest in it. No story's worth being drip fed for 10 years.
I'll wait for the next actual game to come out and if it doesn't I'll just play something else.

>Game adds cool male
>You can get him for free in the first hour guaranteed
>He's shit tier
Once CalCHAD gets buffed for New Federation, I'll build him

>>713519014 (OP)
Turns out, players like cute/sexy women. Go figure. DB gachas are the only ones where the male characters sell more than the female ones. For obvious reasons

>>713542710
No. Retardedly enough they are rated just as high as men.

>>713522806
>fujos
>self-insert is a woman
retard

>>713519014 (OP)
>male bros....they don't want us
Correct. No one wants to roll for a exclusive 5 star female banner and then, proceed to get a 5 star male in return. The appeal of gachas have always been about acquiring sexy women to "waifu" and watch their assets in-game. Males get in the way of that and worse, they bring in a unpleasant audience with them. That's why female exclusive gachas (with male mcs) reign supreme.

>>713519014 (OP)
Just make femboys and tomboys, problem solved.

>>713543013
Gay ecchi/eroge gachas have cooler men than any of the major gachas, aside from ZZZ.

>>713543498
>aside from ZZZ.
At least try to hide your bias.

>>713543760
And Granblue

>>713542997
The pity party streams also overstayed their welcome. It was kind of endearing at first, but every time the retard pops out with even less content and more delays than last time and starts crying how they're all so stressed and overworked, while doing the most retarded shit imaginable, it gets old really fast.

>>713541386
You missed the point by a country mile, amigo. Think of it like sportsball. Your favorite team with multimillion dollar sponsorships isn't going to notice it when you buy a dozen of their jerseys, but that's not why you buy them.

>>713543819
>Granblue
>Where the most popular male squad are called "The Homo Knights" by the community
Really nigga?

>>713519014 (OP)
I dont give a fuck about playable male characters but I hate that self insert faggotry has started to bleed into even male NPCs being allowed to exist. Turns everything into retarded harem anime bullshit.

>>713541368
>Make the males married.
Now that you mention it there are a lack of married male characters in gacha games

>>713525957
Shounen characters I get but I have never ever thought a (playable) hoyo male was cool looking

>>713539338
>Spoiler
Ironic that every single one of them made more money than all of natlan banners

>>713544385
Blame the feminists and their simps for sabotaging gachashit for the past few years.
It's not that gachafags necessarily want no males and haremshit, it's that they don't trust gacha devs to do shit with nuance. Just look at snowbreak and wuwa's beta stories, where the MC was either treated like a kid or outright shit on.

Playable Male characters or Yuri exclusive gacha?

>>713544660
>spend almost two years spamming male banners
>man-lovers never spend
>it drives women-lovers away
>the ones that stayed spent that whole time saving gems
>even in Fontaine, the women were heavily censored
Male units unironically killed Genshin.

a large part of it is laziness, like they cant write a male character who wants to actively romance girls but also wingmans the player to romance girls.
ALL characters have to want to fuck the main character because theyr'e all too lazy to write otherwise
and girls write obscene number of shit to sway writers

>>713544686
Thank god we got a chad mc with Nikke, who gets shit done, is admired by his nikkes and fucks plenty of them, too.

>>713519014 (OP)
Just play gay gacha games

I just want cool geezers and aggressive grannies to create more variety in roster.
this is the reason why even after all the years I still prefer FGO over many other gacha and major reason is relatively large pool of designs and styles to latch on while you still get to eat cake of gorillion seiba and rin faces (tho they still fail actually old woman check)

>>713544981
>fucks plenty of them
him and the other guys am i rite haha

>>713542997
>No story's worth being drip fed for 10 years.
That's like half of indie games "released" now to be fair

>>713544892
1.x had more limited 5* male units than female units thougheveralbeit

>>713545113
literally a money sink, the reason why grubble was able to get away with a lot of designs was being a png gacha for a while (and still largely is)

these 3d gacha need a lot more investment into characters so people need to meet roll quotas, they're NOT as high as people think, but the corpos still want a high return on invest

>>713545265
Yes, but 1.X was carried by launching with girls like Mona, and bookended with Eula.
Hell, even the fucking Keqing banner did better than Kazuha.

>>713545168
Nah, just him. Because other humans can't get away with or have no interest in having relations with Nikkes as he does.

>>713545016
The sex scenes are badly made, am on the telegram which has all the leaks and it's baffling ppl pay for these (except Edmond godly ass)

>>713519014 (OP)
Its the quality of the male characters. Nothing will change until that is understood

>>713545639
They have a Voice Drama and Manga at least on DLSite, so it makes up for the bad gacha scenes.

>>713545724
I guess yeah alongside some great fanartist (cute shork there lad)

>>713545463
>Keqing banner did better than Kazuha.
Do you have source for that claim? Also his rerun banner did way better than his first one

>>713519014 (OP)
Ask for more crossovers. That's the easiest solution. Males from different IP would sell, but then again if the person in charge makes bad choices...

>>713545959
>Japan revenue
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see the chinese revenue for the chinese new year Keqing banner.

>>713519014 (OP)
Gachas are played by lonely incels so it makes sense.
A woman just visits a bar when she is lonely instead of gambling in a png collector.

>>713545113
Ask Trine Nine how that worked out

>>713546042
Keqing cny banner: 0 douyin hours
Kazuha and klee rerun banner: 60 douyin hours
His first banner got 0 douyin hours too

>>713542329
>There's a male character shortage in the Anime community as a whole.
same problem again, low quality male characters

>>713546427
All I'm seeing is that people rolled for Klee and bought her outfit.

>>713545113
FGO could add Baba Yaga... potentially

>>713546525
That's 2.8 banner bro, klee skin was in 3.8

>>713546215
even if Tribe Nine was an all female ML game I doubt it would have made all that much money considering that it had:
No marketing
Nothing outside of banners to spend your money on
and the fact that it was hard (compared to other gachas)

>>713546714
As much I would hope that you just know if they adapt any of that material baba yaga would get "louhid" into
>covered child
>child
>sexy lady
and pretend it would fill the "the Maiden, the Mother, and the Crone" theme.

>>713546215
TN male characters were ugly as fuck except a few ones
The anime was also shit and they brought that awful ugly character with a grandma voice

>>713547007
>"the Maiden, the Mother, and the Crone" theme
Yeah but she's a shapeshifter so I don't think it's a big deal. While I'm 100% sure that's the Sakurai's direction for the character it's not completely random.

>>713524794
I heard that the reason why Mihoyo won't have dudes that don't look like effeminate faggots is because they appeal to straight women, and hoyodevs are a bunch of cucked incels or unironic fujohomos so they hate straight women.

why can't female characters be this cool though

>>713545959
>>713545463
>>713545265
Other anon is correct the the name badgers banners up until Sumeru did well. It was only after Sumeru that they all started flopping. The reason for this is because Genshin lost a big chunk of its female player base because of the fujohomo pandering in Sumeru.

>>713548994
You're playing the eng wrong games.

>>713521376
Based
Genshin has literally ZERO competition

>>713519014 (OP)
I want you, but as a bro. Not as some weirdo seductive gay man.

>Men
Don't you have Genshin for that? Pretty boys and all that

>>713519014 (OP)
17 minutes when the whole topic can be opened and closed with
>There aren't lots of men in gacha games because men, who are the main gacha game players, don't want to spend money on rolling for men

>>713549819
Men also don't spend money on non-meta females (see HSR)
And even meta females if they aren't story relevant (see Genshin)

>>713519014 (OP)
Gachas are consumed exclusively by SEAgroids and trannies, and they're strongly threatened by males.
All troons are yurifags and disgusted by males.

>>713519014 (OP)
But there's tons of fujo gacha games where ALL the characters are male, what the fuck is this schizo on about?

>>713549964
SEApags don't spend
Its mostly Chinese and Japanese

Its obvious.
Making good male characters requires actual writing and development.
Making good female characters is almost entirely on the art.

That said its mostly tiny emperors having a fit upon seeing a man

>>713519014 (OP)

When will vidya have men that appeal to MY tastes?

>>713550261
>Making good male characters requires actual writing and development.
This

>>713519014 (OP)
malebros... we need to rise up!

>>713519014 (OP)
>sameface prettyboys for fujos
is having properly handsome characters like >>713521424 too much for the chinks and japs?

>>713550368
That's a handsome character?

>>713549130
>lost [non existent spending playerbase]
no it just lost players in general

>>713550465
yes, you fucking gook

>>713550368
Gacha males are for women
Women don't like bara grandpas
Capitano is probably the closest thing to a cool masculine male that mihomo games will ever have and he will look like this when will become playable

>>713528714
Genshin made one but they Lich King'd him :(

>>713550885
there's entire compilations of women salivating over the likes of Arthur Morgan and Verso

>>713550885
>Gacha males are for women
Not all of them, I don't think an average dokkan battle player spends money for their husbando bejita or whatever

>>713551025
>the only male I'd roll for
>he was the only one we didn't get
Enjoy your new Kazuha event!

>>713551136
Obviously not all of them, but for a (straight) guy to be interested in a gacha male, he has to be
>1. Meta
>2. The coolest dude ever
Which most gacha males aren't. Most gacha males are weak AND look like faggots.

The problem with gacha games is that they are Gacha games.
designed to the core to be a scam

>>713551025
I don't get why he isn't playable. It isn't like the gacha system is canon for the in-universe story anyway

>>713551067
They aren't popular at all compared to Astarion
Women love effeminate sad boys the most
Western games just barely have them

>>713551235
Most likely because of the (lack of) rolling for all of the previous males.
Fontaine in particular both 1) shoved out a fuckton of males and 2) covered up their own women heavily. Natlan clearly was a response to that negative reaction, so they only had one 5* male at all and make all of the 5* women curvy fucknuggets.

>>713519014 (OP)
Male BAD
Female GOOD
deal with it

>>713551410
>shoved out a fuckton of males
Literally 3
Two of them were offmeta bricks

>>713542043
Star Rail is such a piece of shit
>Look at all these cool designs? Oh you want to roll for them? LOL we killed them off-screen / they will be NPCs that you kill in several years
So much for being a "space" game

>>713551410
>and make all of the 5* women curvy fucknuggets.
And all flopped
Especially the fattest one, biggest flop that the game ever had

>>713551460
this but unironically

He.

He literally me

>>713532443
Fuck em

So hows snowbreak doing these days? Haven't really heard much about it except that apparently there were some writer drama for one of the updates.

>>713545113
Genshin will have a singular old guy next year (Who will probably be a shitty 4-Stars since no way in Hell are they making him 5-Stars)

>>713519501
It happens even in games where tge males are more popular than the girls.

>>713551678
That's CCP's fault, aside from their stance on 'villainous' characters their censor board prohibits skeletons and bones because of cultural taboo.

Actually the reason I quick HSR. Boot hill came out and I saved for him and got him e1s1. Then because he was male and unpopular he got instantly power crept by that faggot firefly. Devs literally buffed and favoured her even changing animations to make them better because that community is fucking autistic and they were obsessed with her because of le sad backstory. Also ruined Sam because it’s actually fucking Firefly. Not to mention she could do everything my Boothill could do but better and with aoe.

>>713551608
The entire first half of Fontaine was men. Furina was the first female, and that's also when the story ended and people leave.

>>713551787
People had already moved on to other games. Why stick with Genshin if they spend two fucking years spamming guys? It's the game famous for Mona, and they only made guys!

>>713551460
Tranny moment.

>>713523897
Soo imagine yourself as a 2d gigachad.

>>713551678
Can we count Sam among those? The cool Sam was essentially killed off by turning him into moeblob waifubait.

>>713552201
>he got instantly power crept by that faggot firefly.
He's doing better than Firefly these days.

>>713552446
>It's the game famous for Mona
Porn addicted secondaries don't count, if they did nier would be the most popular game ever

>>713552614
>Porn addicted secondaries don't count
By all means. Please. Tell me who the "primaries" are.
And then rationalize why they all left after Sumeru and Fontaine.

>>713552450
>Wanting to fuck women is tranny
Mindbroken

>>713552446
>People had already moved on to other games.
Any day now!

>>713552201
If it helps they did the reverse later on with Sunday and Fugue/Tingyun, where the latter was gutted so they could sell the former. MHY tend to have favored characters that are designed to be super good and then unfavored characters who are designed to be skipped. They also did it with Jade who was meant to be a skip so as not to step on their precious Firefly's toes, and they recently did it with Cipher so they could sell pink Barbara.

>>713552561
I'm honestly amazed they didn't buff Firefly yet, but I guess even they thought it'd be selfish to give her a buff and an alt. Yet anyway.

>>713552664
Genshin is THE normie gacha, its revenue and playerbase cannibalized itself after star rail's release(and no more covid buff too)

>>713550658
It lost a big chunk of its female playerbase because of the homoshit and lost the male playerbase because of the year long male banners. That's why male characters by and large did better before Suneru.

But my gacha dragonball z dokkan battle has plenty of men

>>713521424
Pretty much. I don't want some bishi boy

>>713522014
>fan art
Best I can do is AIsloppa.

>>713552539
You never fight as Firefly what killed off Sam was the green form instead of her keeping her red fire and kamen rider references throughout.

>>713552982
not only does losing the nebulous "female audienc" mean jackshit for the revenue, males sold fuck all even before sumeru besides kazuha's rerun which were all metafag rollers

Phainon is the prime example for why we really don't need any males

>>713553215
Males sold decently before Sumeru. And even during Sumeru they did decently well up until they introduced Kaveh. Then they all started to tank. Before Kaveh males weren't the lowest or the highest but they mostly did well.

>>713553314
They already made a version of Phainon that everyone likes

>>713552742
Yes being a degenerate subhuman cumbrain who can only measure the worth of things in how much you want to fuck them is peak tranny behaviour. That's why trannies troon out. Because they can't accept that they don't want to fuck their own reflection in the mirror. You are sick in the head.

>>713553429
Phainon's banner itself won't sell well but hsr will have a high revenue because of 11 banners, the collab and the spending event.

>>713553374
like i stated, males sold jackshit prior to sumeru. females had no influence on males selling well and no gachas pander to them besides one where the gameplay part of it is completely irrelevant

>>713553157
Sure but character-wise Firefly destroys everything that seemed cool about him. They tried to play Sam up as some badass killing machine that goes scorched earth on everything, yet that is completely at odds with Firefly being pure sweet moeblob who just larps. There's a bit in an event I recall about I think it was some trash cans afraid that Sam was gonna come for them, and you talk to Firefly and she's like "Oh I don't wanna hurt them I hope they are ok" that really emphasizes the clash between "Sam" and Firefly there.

>>713553579
>All those buzzwords
Why are you conceding?
More importantly, why are you freaking out because people like women?

>>713553584
Cope he's the Motherfucking Deliverer and Kevin

>>713553374
Kaveh should have been a woman.

>>713553685
No they didn't. Ayato was one of the highest selling characters for instance, and even the Wanderer also was one of the highest performing banners as well. Ditto similarly wasn't the highest selling banner but he was far from the lowest. The lowest selling males were Childe outside of Japan and Albedo and even then the least owned male 5* was Aether. So no, the males did decently up until Sumeru.

>>713553774
>why are you freaking out because people like women?
What a disingenuous mouth-breathing retarded little faggot you are.

>>713553991
>mfw Chink straight women hated Kaveh because he's too much of a whiny bitch to be a man.

>>713519014 (OP)

>>713521424
>fruity twinks
>obviously for homos since gays like to be feminine
>muscular characters
>obviously for homos since bara is a popular gay genre

>>713554190
>create Kaveh with the sole purpose being to cuck Alhaitham yumes
>create Sethos with the sole purpose being to cuck Scarahida shippers

>>713554271
LADS is for the female gaze. It doesn't count. There should be a gacha for men with cool male character who do cool things and not a gay dating sim with K-pop twink faggots.

>>713544486
Married characters in general are uncommon in gacha games because of the idea that they're no longer pure. That's why we know that Hoyo doesn't have the balls to have Alice be playable unless they erase her husband.

>>713552742
Hating men is pretty much the whole identity and character trait of troons, yes.

>>713553701
It wasn't an event but a memory and she was talking about TB in it. Firefly herself never hesitates to resort to violence, and even seems to prefer it. She only gets into the Brother Hanu games after you get the Bazooka and was fully willing to kill Sampo when she thought he was a threat.

>>713554271
LADS is for straight women only, but the people complaining don't want you to know that.

>>713541205
Doesn't housamo have a big female fanbase?

>>713541237
Furries can sustain smaller gachas, as long you don't go full Rayark, you are safe with them.

>>713531309
genuinely why does mihoyo keep doing this? I'm so lost.
I also have camera man fatigue, they need to make their MCs actual protagonists

>>713542710
No, au contrairie they can be OP as ton of famous players.

People don't give a shit about woman soccer.

>>713554930
>I also have camera man fatigue, they need to make their MCs actual protagonists
Zhongli literally tells you in the very first patch of the game that your whole shtick is recording Teyvat's events so they don't get forgotten

>>713555083
do they tell you that in HSR and zzz too?

>>713554545
I'm thinking of that tournament event in space china. I forget the details but I do remember it was during that and she was specifically talking about some kind of non-humans at least. But again, their attempts to characterize her as some pure sweet moeblob clashes hard with what you just described. You can't be both yet that's what they seem to want.

>>713554930
>I need gacha PROTAGS
The big hat provides

>>713555405
Firefly never appeared in the China tournament.

>>713539338
Neuvillette had decent rerun numbers, nothing insane but solid, seems like an evergreen character due to his ease to build and braindead easy rotations making him solid for a new account and still good later.

it is absolutely nothing compared to Raiden or Furina though.

it is hilarious seeing people have meltdowns over him being a good character, which seems silly when there are several characters who are stronger, hell didn't Skirk just come out?

>>713555271
HSR's whole shtick is exploring plants and solving their issues, finding what happened to Akivili and beating Nanook eventually
ZZZ's whole shtick is proving that your teacher is innocent and didn't cause the fall of almost an entire civilization and to beat whatever the crazy villain Cult is worshipping

>>713555778
planets*

>>713522481
This

>>713524503
ok, now kys

>>713555725
NTA but she does indirectly. I remember. Some Trash Cans try to participate using the name of Sam and TB messages Fireslut and they have a conversation.

>>713555725
She doesn't "appear" but you do speak to her via text.

>>713552160
What a mentally sick regime

>>713524503
Anti-male character troon falseflag btw.

>>713555769
>it is hilarious seeing people have meltdowns over him being a good character, which seems silly when there are several characters who are stronger, hell didn't Skirk just come out?
Neuvillette is schrodinger's powercreep, his haters can't decide if he broke the meta permanently or if he's a powercrept brick

>>713522084
I don't mean this image at you, but Kruger from Girl's Frontline is a great example for male characters in gatcha games. GF1 had multiple male bros that the players enjoyed.
Here are the secrets
>Have them be straight bros
>If they flirt with a female pullable character, have them explicitly turn him down
>Don't have them be playable units, but have them be actual characters in the story

>>713552073
I really doubt they'll make a new animation skeleton and motions for him. We're talking about HoYoverse, a company that thrives on "big profit, low effort."

>>713540616
>actually defending shitty, miniscule and forever reused roster
holy mother of slurpa

>>713538391
because the male characters in Nikke are based

>>713551025
When he's back they're going to remove the mask and kick-ass clock and turn him into the pretty man we saw in his flashback. What a fucking waste of a design.

>>713556647
There's nothing stopping them from using the boy model and just making him as short as Xiao

>>713556274
Neuvillette has always just been QoL to an extreme.

he never did the most damage (outside of bugs) Lyney cleared faster when he came out, even before that people thought Alhaitham did more but from what i understand that was a hyperbloom calculation error making it seem better than it was.

his AOE is extremely good, especially with the bug exploit but if your not abusing the bug Varesa arguably has better AOE.

his cons are practically outdated at this point compared to what Natlan ones offer, just a few static damage increases and 4-6 merely improve QoL and not really his damage as the top bips of damage the c6 does are not a big part of his damage.

when you have a character so trivial to build and make good, self heals to the point of being able to solo a side of the spiral abyss pretty easily, near zero ER requirements, *actually zero with Furina and his signature* he can seem crazy at first just because his damage floor is surprisingly high.

i personally over invested artifact farming for him and plan to use him as long as i can.

>>713519014 (OP)
I literally started playing ZZZ for Ben and dropped it when, after a FULL FUCKING YEAR, the only similar male fanservice we got was this dude, who's another useless A-rank shitter.
You can't get people who like male characters to play your game if all the male characters are fucking worthless from a gameplay perspective and you add maybe one or two every year.

>>713557007
I like Catalysts so I use him and Varesa
Hopefully Alice or Columbina will be Catalysts too so I can roll for them

>>713519247
This is how I felt after being able to quit league of legends forever thanks to vanguard

>>713557245
i grabbed Varesa too, since i overfarmed MH/GT domain i slap those pieces on everyone to get an instantly usable 5* it is rarely their best option but it is competitive.

i think i get 250k plunges with my C1R1 Varesa though Akasha of course calls me stupid for doing it.

>>713557048
>was this dude, who's another useless A-rank shitter.
Bro...
He's literally the best support for the 2nd strongest character in the entire game
His only downside is that there aren't really any Rupture agents yet aside from Yi Xuan

>>713557456
I have C0R1 and I get like 120k plunges but I don't have Mavuika nor have I built Chevreuse (What does she even do?)

>>713542574
First, this isnt a fanservice game
Second, fifa players are not even people

>>713519014 (OP)
Not a problem in FGO

>>713550261
they usually need to be a good unit too and even that wont get some people to roll

>>713557684
i was just doing a hypercarry build since i got c3 furina (who also enables the 4 piece set bonus on MH)

Chevreuse buffs the pyro + electro only teams.

+40% attack and -40% electro and pyro res shred at c0

at c6 she heals a tiny bit and additionally provides +20% pyro and electro damage bonus

>>713556897
And yet, somehow, for whatever strange reason theres still absolutely no artistic, gameplay or story-wise necessity for them not to be pretty and hot girls. They are even all already heads over heels for (you). Curious...

>>713519014 (OP)
This whole war against gacha incels feels astroturfed, lying about how common males have historically been and claiming devs are pandering to icky male gazes and stuff. It genuinely feels like any actual discussion about male characters has been swallowed up by it too.

>>713531002
Just having some male side NPCs in a titty game brings in fujos? Doesn't make sense to me. I think I was right the first time. Some gacha fans really are that pathetic.

>>713558047
whoops i read it wrong. c6 is +20% for 8 seconds with up to 3 stacks.

>>713557540
>He's literally the best support for the 2nd strongest character in the entire game
Yeah, and I don't want a shitass support whose only goal is to hit EX Special and then leave. I want a male character who I can actually enjoy playing as, not a glorified equipment for some random chink bitch.

>>713558047
>+40% attack and -40% electro and pyro res shred at c0
No way that sounds way too OP to be true
I thought she just fired her shotgun once with her skill and placed small bombs during Burst

>>713558081
Cry about it, selfinserter

>>713558353
it is overpowered because it breaks if you use anything other than Pyro and Electro characters

>>713558062
Ambushes...

>>713551460
>reeeee men bad because I don't want to fuck them
Coomer to tranny pipeline proven right once again. Imagine not being able to enjoy a good action game or movie with cool male characters because you are such a massive porn addict. Not everything in this world needs to be erotic and arousing.

>>713558490
to add to this:

Nilou limits you do Dendro and Hydro only
Chevreuse limits you do Pyro and Electro (generic pyro applicator if you don't follow it)
Skirk AND Escoffier really want just Cyro and Hydro

i think Ineffa is supposed to be something similar but for Hydro Electro reactions.

they make them extra strong to make up for the team comp restrictions

>>713558062
>anti-male character troon is also a faggot
See?

>>713558062
If only limbus men were real...

I do play one gacha, one of the greediest in fact, but I don't care because none of the gameplay changes and the best girl is starter girl

>>713553992
Ayato didn't have the highest selling anything, multiple female banners even during 2.x outsold him and he ran as a double rateup which never happened back then. Wanderfag released after sumeru dipshit and is a large contributing factor to the game even becoming as controversial at it did in CN. I highly suspect you're a foid trying to push your female players are actually important narrative but no one buys it.

>>713558490
Damn it's real
Guess I'll get to building her when I get Mavuika

I hate how a lot of gacha characters are just overdesigned and visually noisy while somehow also being generic looking shit. So much time and effort producing art of these shitty ass characters.

>>713519247
Congrats bro what did you drop and what are you playing? I dropped all Mihoyo shit and live service trash that expects me to report daily like some sort of unpaid job and never looked back.

>>713559374
Someone said the overdesign is on purpose because it appears intricate to some

>>713559374
'milk me better daddy'

you niggers all need to hang yourselves

>>713555769
>>713556274
>>713557007
this faggot accelerated the game's powercreep to such an absurd degree the devs tried to nerf him 7 patches post release

>>713559525
I think it's hilarious how Hoyo just fucking lathers on more and more detail post inazuma but are too lazy to not share 90% of the animations and base model/skeleton

>>713559374
Overdesigned shit appeals to the female gaze mostly. Men like more simple outfits on women, proving that gachatards are female brained and failed at being real men.

>>713559374
>click 1 button
>50 fucking things happen, random shit flying everywhere, countering every enemy attack, applying whatever the fuck, ...

ZZZ is probably the only game where I don't want to play any of the 5 stars

>>713559689
I feel bad for Cosplayers and I imagine the time it would take for the chars to wake up then dress up. Funnily in HSR there's a chick crying about being poor while being overdesigned

>>713559129
Daymn, i didnt know project moon had a lads collab as well!
>>713559063
Projection: the post. Gacha is cute, pretty and hot girl fanservice gaym genre and nobody in their right mind, traditional sex orientation and proper hormon level would want to subvert it with a bunch of fugly, stinking men, pic that you and i replying to is 100% direct consequince of their presence. Its really shrimple's zzat and shoudnt be that hard for your normie-coded cuckplate of a digibrain to process

>>713559902
>the only men that can be put into games are sissy twinks in lingerie and skirts
Holy shit that's a lot of projection on your part you closeted fucking faggot.

>They still haven't given Venti his archon costume
KILL YOURSELF MIHOYO

>>713523046
The only male needed is the blank slate self insert protagonist that is the strategist for gacha women , that's what 90% of gacha are. It's just about a harem protagonist who saves the world . It's not about fapping just wish fulfillment . There's token men for women and gays but they are tiny fraction of the market

>>713560178
And now you are just straight up making shit up, litteraly none ever said anything like this here or in any other thead.
And nah, ankoman ruined twinks forever so they arent good either.
>>713560342
>The only male needed
One of the reasons why i think that ML shit is just too fucking loose, its still premits the sausage fest

>>713560781
Why did you post gay femboy shit then? Why do you hate men in games but are fine with cross-dressing boys?

>>713559129
Mating press and impregnation

>>713559902
Your post is literally incoherent. You anti-male gachatards are really brain damaged and also secretly gay.

>all these pags raging that Genshin is like 20% male characters instead of the 2% they're used to
>when the game was 45% female playerbase at its peak
If you retards stopped thinking with your dicks you'd realize how lucky you are that Genshin decided to prioritize sexy women with Natlan. Otherwise you'd be looking at bara porn of Varka right about now.

>>713519014 (OP)
I get it
while I want more cool as fuck male characters to roll for, hot girls bring in the money.

>>713561212
>offmodel fanart

>>713559539
I don't play these games. I hate it because artists are drawing them instead of better things.

Daymn, wypipo reely wood fill nekopara and honey pop with doods if u let zem

>>713519014 (OP)
I mean, I don't mind the occasional bro. Community just throws a fit.

>>713561795
Do you SEAmonkeys really feel threatened by virtual men? Are you such fucking losers that even in your cope power fantasy phone "games" you feel like a woman wouldn't possibly like you unless you were the only man in existence?

>>713561212
>Natlan women
>Sexy
There is a reason why all of them flopped horribly

>>713561920
Do u wyit debils reely need to soobvert an dirail everythang ur eye sees and hands can reach? Lemme gues wyite boi pic has got to be ur number van fav, rite?

>>713548994
Misogyny, men and women don't want edgy women

>>713562492
>men and women don't want edgy women
How's the weather on planet retard?

>>713561975
yeah they released post fontaine shattering the playerbase

>>713558062
>the brown gachatranny that hates male characters in xir precious gachaslop also unironically jerks off to traps
KEKYPOW! You can't make this shit up.

>>713557943
Got killed by blue archive

>>713562692
>"I..i..i-it's all fontaine's fault!!!"

Why do faggot simp ricecel AGP tranny coomer homo loser cucks hate cool badass male characters so much?

>>713554031
Yeah you're definitely conceding. No one likes your gay ass bald men.

>>713563268
You trannies truly are neurotic.

>>713557943
No fucking content and its getting ass raped by Chinese and Korean gacha.

>>713563268
Look I understand that you got bullied and stuff into lockers by other boys in school and that you still hold a grudge over that, but being a man-hating trany isn't normal.

>>713563268
I'm starting to think you are the tranny if you think that there is something wrong with preferring women.
We're in some fucked up situation where people are going around saying liking girls is gay or some sort of tranny shit. There's no logic at all.