You guys lied to me this game fucking sucks major gorilla dick. I've never played something that's so tedious and intentionally wastes the players time with convoluted obtuse bullshit. The combat is dogshit and never gets better and the story is so fucking boring that it might as well not even exists. Quests are pointless crap too with no satisfying endings and basically zero reason to do them. Fuck this game, never letting you guys trick me again.

>>713596175 (OP)
Turnip digger

>>713596175 (OP)
maybe you were just unlucky, but pretty much every kingdom cum thread contains multiple posts about how garbage the combat and how tedious the game is

>>713596175 (OP)
You got filtered
Aka game isn't for you

>>713596175 (OP)
the games gay now lol

>game has numerous i win buttons
>still get filtered
lol

>>713597770
I beat the game, it's not a skill issue it's the fact that the game is unenjoyable dog shit and no amount of mental gymnastics from you fags will convince me otherwise. If you genuinely like this game then you have horrible taste.

>>713597997
At least it fosters creative approach in problem-solving which is a huge plus

KCD2 is somehow worse. Instead of refining gameplay Vavra went full narrative retard mode trying to shit out his Magnum Opus no one asked for. It feels like it has 30+ hours of cutscenes alone if not more, while gameplay has barely been advanced

>>713596175 (OP)
Synthetic Man had a video about it being bad
never say you weren't warned

>>713596175 (OP)
It's a game for white people, naturally you wouldn't understand.

>>713596175 (OP)
I'm White and I absolutely love this game, even with all the jank.
Try playing while not being brown next time, anon

>>713600430
many such cases

It has too many mechanics that autists think are "immersive" and "realistic" that better designed games eschew for good reasons. You walked through the mud and now you're boots are dirty, better get those cleaned at the bathhouse or your charisma stat goes down ... stuff like that is an autists idea of "immersion" which translated into a video game goes from mildly amusing to annoying real quick.

The combat and exploration is kinda shit but the story and sidequests are very good. You probably just don't like these kinds of wrpgs.

It's a medieval forest walking and dice gambling simulator

>>713596175 (OP)
Just train mace.
Once you unlock Perfect Block through the training guy, and you have higher mace skills, you basically become Medieval Doom guy.

>>713596175 (OP)
This game filtered non white man honestly, i'm not white but enjoy this game. Debauchery with father godwin is kino

>>713596175 (OP)
>Op rants, raves, and throws his shit like a chimp about a game that wastes players time
Clearly you've never played the blue prince. You don't know shit about videogames if your biggest criticism of kcd is you feel it wastes your time.

>>713596175 (OP)
The game was entirely carried by culture war shit. The cutscenes are mostly well directed tho.

>>713601996
>these kinds of wrpgs
Not OP but it's a fucking movie-game just like RDR2.

>>713605340
RDR2 is completely railroaded from beginning to end, it's Rockstar at its worst. KCD gives you lots of options and choices in how you want to complete quests. There's also barely any actual cutscenes in the game.

>>713605340
Kys

>>713603075
unlocking game mechanics is utterly stupid

>>713605768
>There's also barely any actual cutscenes in the game.
Not in KCD2 though. RDR2 clearly poisoned their minds along the way sadly. It's Rockstar-slop wannabe now

>>713606209
KCD2 isn't for fans of the original game. Hell, it's not even for normalniggers considering how fast the sales fell off.

>>713606494
>KCD2 isn't for fans of the original game
I learned it the hard way

>>713606209
>>713606494
>Kcd 2 is just like rdr2 dude
Most retarded criticism you could've came up with

>>713606494
is it actually bad beyond the left wing shit (gay + muslim cunt)?

i'd read the writing was pretty bad throughout the game

>>713606584
Same. The opening prologue is so fucking bad I couldn't stomach it.

>>713596175 (OP)
I get motion sickness just from walking around in this game. What the fuck were they thinking with the constant "breathing" camera?
Glad I only paid like $4 for it last year, but what absolute trash.

>>713596175 (OP)
Its not worth playing anymore after the sequel turned out to be homosexual shit anyways

>>713596175 (OP)
I found the first game really boring and tedious as well OP but I liked the 2nd game.

>>713606774
what was wrong with it? havent played it yet

>>713606768
Writing is "punched up" to make game more normie friendly
Other than that you got homo romance and musa.
Everything else seems fine to me

>>713606706
Not gameplay-wise but narrative ambition-wise. Gameplay freedom is one of the redeeming qualities, just like in the first game

>>713607073
You get side-eyed for saying that you didn't fuck a woman

>>713606768
They didn't fix the combat (arguably made it even worse) and the writing is really bad. You can't take Henry and Hans seriously after knowing they are secretly gay for each other.

>>713607109
>Writing is "punched up" to make game more normie friendly
what does that mean? i'd read the game lost all subtlety in the sequel and the characters are all "funny alcoholics" like godwin

The only people who hate KCD are trannies and leftists

>>713607236
It tries to be le epic while still being a eurojank and those two don't go well together

>>713607073
It's an extremely bad 5 hour long tutorial

>>713596175 (OP)
Same. I gave this game 5 hours. I was bored out of my mind. It feels like the target audience for this is history autists. I have no clue why it's shilled by everyone so much.

>>713607236
That's a good way to describe it
Every in little more quirky while first one was more dry and plain most of the time

>>713607207
Poor Hans is reducted to fit a damsel in distress trope, Godwin is a whiny cuck and Henry runs around like a lackey wiping everyone's ass while spewing random wisdom he is clearly to young to possess.
Vavra done fell off

>>713607528
fuck
as much as i loved the original game, when the radzig reveal happens the writing becomes pretty terrible, i was afraid the sequel would just continue from there (and also that plaion would make them put in a bunch of left wing shit)

seems i was right on both, but i'll have to play it myself to see ofc

>>713607463
The history aspect is admittedly nice but everything around it is so trash

>>713607236
>what does that mean?
It's "We have Witcher 3 at home", except it's actually Witcher 2

>>713607625
i mean it still has the charm and many serious moments but they doubled down on hanush and godwin shit maybe because people liked it too much
nobody talks about it but music is still pretty good

>>713607661
false,
along with death stranding it's one of the very few AAA games that is "not for everyone"
because i liked almost every aspect other than combat

>>713607109
Also you have to actively go out of your way to deliberately chose a clearly labeled romance option several times across the game to reach a point where Hans very vaguely aludes that he may be bisexual at which point you can trigger a romance scene or just ignore it because it's never outright stated that the feelings are not platonic, and also, you can get Musa killed off literally ten minutes after you first meet him.

Also, ignoring these clearly enforced but very much non-intrusive elements, the writing is actually fucking excellent, genuinely really fucking good.
It is true that the game has a pretty big pacing issue. There is a LOT of exposition, and it's delivered in big chunks at the time, resulting in scenarios where once you trigger the point-of-no-return trigger (which are always perfectly communicated at least), it could be up to 3-5 hours before you get to free-roam again, which just feels exhausting at times.

They tell a good story, great characters, and really make the most of the settings, but it feels odd and disjointed a lot of the time. It's very clear they got a bit too carried away with the story. Again, it's a good one, but... pacing is a thing they did not get right.

If you really want to complain about the game though, the most severe issue it actually has, is how completely out of sync is the RPG progression with the story length.

Like, I played on hardcore with Numbskull AND another mod collection with both hugely expanded skill tree and another 40% reduction of EXP gain on TOP of the numbskull trait and I still pretty much maxed out my character before I got to the HALF point of the plot. It's kinda silly.

>>713607780
>i mean it still has the charm and many serious moments but they doubled down on hanush and godwin shit maybe because people liked it too much
Not really, no. Godwin is overal a FAR more toned down character than he was in the first game, and as for Hanush - he is an asshole in the first half of the game, and there is one segment right at the start of it that is pretty fucking forced, but most of it goes away once you save him at the end of the first arc (which is about 25% into the game), and it all gets a major pay-off in the second half. Hans easily goes through the most character growth outside of Henry and it's really fucking well done.

I'm entirely convinced that 99% of people's opinions on the game's story comes from the first 2-3 hours of the game, exclusively.

>>713608413
i am not talking about the characters i meant the goofy tone of hanush and godwin
and i also said it still has a lot of charm and good moments

>>713607625
You are wrong on both sides, actually. There is nothing left-wing in the game what so ever, and the writing in KCD2 is very good. Several leagues above anything in KCD1, actually.

I agree that KCD1's story falls apart by the end of KCD1, but it's pretty fucking obvious that the devs actually thought that as well, and tried pretty hard to avoid repeating the same mistake.

The story still has some issues (see >>713607925 for more details), but overall, it's consistently better than KCD1 was even at its strongest.

>>713607925
>"The writing is excellent"

>Take on a random side quest to go and help some guy across the map
>Meet the guy, he says to help him you need to find and steal some shit from another guy who lives across the map
>Go there. The guy is missing, he was abducted by whothefukknows
>Find him in a camp halfway across the map
>Save him from the enemies, beat him up and ask for the thing
>He says it's not on him and he lost it on a way to the camp
>Search a huge forest area around the camp
>Find an NPC who said he might know where that thing is but you need to help him first
>...
>Rinse, repeat
>Forget why the fuck you are even in this quest and why its objective is marked by Z

And btw imagine doing all that shit on hardcore mode with no fast travel.

>>713608632
>There is nothing left-wing in the game what so ever,
does that mansa muslim nigger not exist?

>>713608541
>i am not talking about the characters i meant the goofy tone of hanush and godwin
Except I just explained that neither are as goofy as they were in the first game. Godwin literally NEVER has anything even close to the Poverty and Famine scene, in fact keeping on the straight and narrow is literally his core theme in the game, including an entire segment quite LITERALLY being about that ballance being an ACTUAL MECHANIC. If you played the game you know what I'm talking about.
And Hanush, again, is a goofy cunt in the first two or three hours, and it is done very specifically to set up contrast to who he becomes later, far more of a serious character.

There are new characters, some of them arguably almost as goofy as Godwin was in the first game, in the form of the Blue Devil's posy, but again, that is also something that has very clear fucking pay-off to it, and serves to reinforce the much darker tone the game REALLY maintains for the most part.
Yeah, Adder and that hungarian assholes are goofy. Except they use their goofiness as a coping mechanism for something, something with a lot more depth to it.

But again, I strongly doubt anyone else in this thread even knows who the Blue Devil is, because /v/tards don't play games for long enough to see that part of the story.

>>713608737
How is EXISTENCE of a Mali ambasador on the court of a king who very explicitly fought war in the middle east "left wing"?
And if you don't like him, just don't bother clearing his name in the literal first quest you actually meet him in. He's executed, problem solved.
Again, you haven't actually played the game. You actually do not know anything but the context of that character. Neither do you know what the term "left-wing" means.

>>713609070
agreed DD was kino
also yeah most guys didn't play the game
when they say shit like
>forced gay romance
>fully modeled synagogue
>noble gypsies
>anti semite quest

>>713609446
you are delusional lol

i also found it extremely pathetic the way vavra went on twitter after release defending the nigger despite pic related

>>713596175 (OP)
but enough about rdr2

>>713609492
>>fully modeled synagogue
The fully modeled synagogue is actually SOMEWHAT of a valid complaint, that shit should not actually be in the game. In fact the whole Jewish quarter should not be in the game. Though at least the devs are very open about that. It's historically not accurate but it serves the story, it allows the dramatic events to take place on a limited scene. The pogrom itself is actually historically accurate, if moved around on the time line a little.
But yeah, complaints about gay romance or about Musa are painful in how obviously people haven't played the game.

>>713609569
The idea that it was embracer/plaion that forced the diversity into the game seems less likely to me when viewing your pic related; classic case of grifting is what it really was.

>>713609569
I accept your concession, as ungraceful as it is, child. Now go pester some different thread for a while.

>>713607625
the game is pretty much plaion forcing vavra to atone for his past sins against leftoidist dogma via humiliation ritual

>>713609797
>The idea that it was embracer/plaion that forced the diversity into the game seems less likely to me when viewing your pic related
why?

he has views, those views are clearly reflected in the game
the studio gets bought out, the new owners have mandates for their games, these mandates are reflected in the game and the dev who once had one set of beliefs now seemingly has the exact opposite, coincidentally.


>>713609914
you're an idiot honestly

>>713609781
fair
but people think they molded an entire synagogue (lol) but no churches because they hate Christians or something

>>713610237
>but people think they molded an entire synagogue (lol) but no churches because they hate Christians or something
That is actually funny, I never heard that one. But yeah. This is what you get for talking anything that is above Fortnite level of accessibility on this board.
Though I will say, the lack of church interiors in the game was disappointing. I knew it's going to be the fact, and know the reasoning behind it, but it is still a shame, it bothers me because the sense of reverence and excitement those would bring to the game is a pretty vital element of that era and the historical fantasy, so ditching it actually does take away from what the game is otherwise best at (and most focused on).
But oh well. At least we did get the Italian court in all of its glory, and I understand why that would be a priority. And it does make kinda sense, since people did not actually walk into churches willy-nilly in that era.
I miss the times when most /v/tards actually played games.

>>713609976
>coincidentally
Because he knew full well these publishes were pozzed, that's what that pic indicates, that he is knowledgeable of this aspect of game publishing. You can't just feign ignorance after the fact and gaslight your audience and say it was all the publishers fault when HE, vavra, sold out to these very publishers; he made the choice while being fully informed. Without making that choice these publishers wouldn't have any say and vavra wouldn't have to be a hypocrite, defending things he railed against prior which only makes him seem "in on it" with how much he went on the defense for these changes.

>>713610927
that's a good point, maybe he didn't think they would make him wokify it up as much as they did with musa and the gay stuff and the synagogue but it was still a risk he knew about and he did defend it all

>>713596175 (OP)
We only liked it because we thought it was a genuinely White Christian European game. After Vavra exposed himself as an anti-European anti-White anti-Christian Jew piece of shit, everything in it that seemed like a playful jab at our culture started looking malicious and subversive.

>>713610237
>but people think they molded an entire synagogue (lol) but no churches because they hate Christians or something
Because Jew Vavra literally said it in his unhinged twitter rants.

>>713610903
>since people did not actually walk into churches willy-nilly in that era.
LOL tard?

>>713611806
>>713612007
what did he say exactly?
he spent 14 years of his life on a rug pull to spite Christians

filtered

>>713611592
The whole synagogue thing is completely retarded non-issue, that shit sure as fuck wasn't forced by anyone. It was just a logical dramatic choice for the story. Hell, the devs openly talk about the logic behind it in the game's encyclopedia.

Musa and Hans being a potential romance thing were pretty clearly something that if wasn't straight up mandated by the publisher, were at least done to appease the publisher.
On the other hand, it's pretty obvious to the two or three people on this board who HAD PLAYED the damn game, that they went around doing it by asking "OK, since we do hate to do it, how do we do it in a way that is as non-intrusive as possible".

And they did a good job. Again, you can literally erase Musa few minutes after you meet him. In fact, the fact that a lot of people would want to do that, in game and out, is a kind of a major story beat there.
Plus, even if you spare him, he is not a bad character. Again, there was a lot of work put into him, and he is actually quite fun.

The whole bisexual Hans thing is essentially the same. It is there, it does not have to be there, the game would not be any worse if it was removed, but on the other hand, it is so non-intrusive, and done with enough respect to how that subject would be handled in that era, it's not a problem.

I would have prefered if the game didn't have to contain either. And I do agree that Vávra (as is his habit) managed to make the whole thing worse than it needed to be by his public communication.

But none of this is actually an issue unless you actively demand it to be an issue. It's not a problem with the game, neither Musa nor Hans optional bi-curiosity harm the actual game, it's just that they clearly don't add anything either, they clearly are token, and that is what rubs a lot of people the wrong way. But those people are also massively and obnoxiously overblowing the issue.

>>713612081
>LOL tard?
You aren't european, are you?

>>713596175 (OP)
You are brown

>>713596175 (OP)
>game that claims to be realistic is cumbersome

>>713600441
>Synthetic Man had a video about it being bad
>Synthetic Man

>>713614343
>simp-pathetic-"man"

>>713612146
>he spent 14 years of his life on a rug pull to spite Christians
Pretty much yes.

>>713613207
The church in my town is from the 9th century, you tell me retard.

>>713615596
sounds pretty based and true to me

>>713615761
cool, glad we agree KCD2 is jewish subversive spite against Christianity, jew

>>713615927
Imagine still believeing in a zombie on a stick lmfao loser

>>713607925
that's a lot of words to cope with the fact that Hans is suddenly gay and a muslim immigrant lectures you on feminism

>>713615979
good point mosche, heading out to buy a kippah have a rabbi bite my foreskin off right now

>>713615927
>KCD2 is jewish subversive spite against Christianity
no

>>713615732
>The church in my town is from the 9th century, you tell me retard.
Did you live and observe church opening hours and related practices back in the 9th century?

Or go and study about that subject in an actual fucking school?

The habit of keeping churches freely accesible to commoners outside of strictly limited times of liturgical practices didn't become a thing until 17th century (being eventually established as part of the many, many ways Catholic church was forced to become more open to the general public in response to the protestant crisis). In many countries, free access to churches didn't happen until the enlightenment reforms.
Hell, even here in Czech republic, catholic churches that aren't actually operated by the state, STILL aren't open to the public outside of masses.

It was absolutely not a thing for commoners to access catholic churches at their own leasure in 14th century Bohemia, or anywhere else in Europe for that matter. Churches were locked outside of masses, and even during masses, access was still usually limited to selected groups of people.
Pro-tip: the whole point of building something as expensive as a church, was to inspire a sense of awe and dread in the congregation.
Something that fades with over-exposure. And the Christians were fucking damn well aware of this fact.

>>713616106
>Hans is suddenly gay
>suddenly
If the fact that he had never been in love despite all his courtships and fucks didn't give you a hint, his behavior around Henry really should have. He spends most of KCD1 giving him gifts, clumsily flirting with him, letting him into his bed, and finally giving him his love letter because Henry will "appreciate" it, unlike the woman he immediately wants to forget after fucking. The game also forces you to learn to read specifically for this quest.

>>713616170

>>713617382
Why would I care what a country of atheists who fucked up Christianity so hard that they had to have their own shitty protestants think about anything?

>>713618410
>plays a Czech game
>wtf how dare it portray the Czech perspective
Many such cases.

>>713618573
Go suck a gay blind molester bandit's cock tard.

>>713617395
This isn't entirely true. There was absolutely no indication that he was bisexual in the first game. And frankly, if you actually DO play KCD2, and see the one particular scene that everyone refers to without having played the fucking game, you'd know that even if you trigger every single one of the romance triggers, you can still walk away from that scene assuming that he isn't actually bisexual, because everything he talks about, can be interpreted as a purely platonic thing. He actually never states that he wasn't to have sex with you. He recounts a story of one of the many then-popular knight tales (forgot which one) and the extremely close relationship between a knight and his companion in that story. He talks about how he admires that relationship.
It's very easy to see this as a veiled homo-erotic confession. But it's also just as easy to interpret this as a general cry for help, because it happens in a situation where he is not only in shock over the horrors he just went through, not only facing likely death and near certain death of his only friend, but even if none of that was a problem, the imminent forced marriage should he survive is absolutely terrifying to him as well.
A marriage that I also should point out, he actually accepts. Like a man of his honor and stature, it's clearly crushing him, but he does not act like a bitch about it in the end.

Again, you could cut that scene entirely and NOTHING would be lost. Which is a problem.

But it sure as fuck wasn't telegraphed in the first game, and I'd bet my life on the fact that it wasn't part of the story until Embracer demanded it to be added.

It is also quite worth noting the context of that whole story, and the situation in which Hans finds himself.

>>713618808
Imagine even having to have this discussion about a fucking medieval European video game lmfao.

>>713596175 (OP)
>You guys lied to me this game fucking sucks major gorilla dick.
There are actually any of /v/'s core userbase left. It's just a handful of spamming slavs and /r/kotakuinaction neckbeards astroturfing unfun boring garbage. /v/ could be fixed overnight but instead it will stagnate and die like this.

>>713618123
thanks big vavra i received my payment from sir tobi

>>713621679

>>713624587
VAVRY???
he even lied about his name??

>we'll have to wait for another 5-6 more years for the next warhorse kino/good immersive rpg

ik nobody cares but i think using real life scale and proportions gave the building a lot more realism
it feels like you are in real space no in a doll house or set of some sort (tw3 and tes)
things just feel about right
which add a lot to the immersion
ik it comes at cost of more interesting architecture but you win some you loose some

>>713604710
I dropped Blue Prince before reaching the "real ending." Neat idea but the RNG is not kind.

>knesset come: barmitzvahlence