Genuinely what happened?
I remember enjoying this game but nearly right after the story it feels like everyone just lost interest. Even I forgot I have it installed.

how can you forgot you've got a 70 bucks game installed and give up 10hrs in?

>>713628179 (OP)
Put 80hrs in and exhausted all the content.

>>713628179 (OP)
>Forced plot nobody wants.
>You can skip cutscenes but it a moot point because they added loads of annoying "movie game auto walks" which you obviously can't skip.
>No elder dragons on launch.
>Horribly optimized for PC.
>Ugly in general
>Fucking Nata, who is more annoying than the fucking handler and shoved into your throat at any opportunity.

>>713628179 (OP)
too easy, no content, shit story, shit characters, retarded map segmentation, online leaderboards lmao

after seeing the credits roll everyone asks themselves if they want to spend 40 hours in a virtual shithole that runs poorly. the response is consistent

>>713628267
I've played the game for 70 hours according to steam. I don't really feel like I gave up. Just that the incentive to come back was so low that I literally forgot it existed.

>>713628179 (OP)
It committed the biggest video game sin of all: being boring. Everything else can be recovered from, but if it's not fun, why bother.

>>713628179 (OP)
There's no content and it's not fun enough to play for the sake of playing

I just started playing it again last night after a brief 185 hour stint back with Sunbreak. It's still fun, but only because I'm trying out weapons I haven't played in Wilds yet.

>>713628509
I agree with most of this, but who cares if there are elder dragons or not? Not like being an elder dragon automatically makes a fight better.

>>713628179 (OP)
the combat is boring, the moment you can just parry/counter/offset a monster moveset the entire difficulty disappears

>>713629042
I like most of the weapon changes in Wilds, it's everything else they messed up on.

>>713629207
I do too, but Gunlance is a travesty coming from Rise, I don't know if I can ever play this weapon again without my beloved reverse blast dash. At least WSFB is fun to use.

>>713629508
I thought they just recently fucked Wilds GL even harder by nerfing the whole gun part and leaning into elemental memes this early

>It's on sale for 20% off
>Check to see if it still has denuvo
>It does
>Check reviws
>143k Reviews
>Still mixed
>12k recent
>Overwhelmingly negative
>Only 15% positive
From now on, I will not complain about denuvo, because it seems to have saved me from buying a shit game.

>>713630321
Huh? It was strictly a buff. Normal shelling (which I used anyway because it's the most satisfying) is the best now, and artian ice/fire are the best normal shelling gunlances now. The ice & fire barely matters, even against bad elemental matchups that gunlance wins on its stats alone. And Zoh Shia is now the best non-artian GL.

>>713632324
Yes, gwailo... yes.... don't buy the game, just listen to the chink reviewers.... good, good gwailo......

mh shill player since 2

>ugly art style, mostly color wise
>no layered weps on launch
>first 1-2 hours of the game is FUCKING BAD what were they thinking man?
>game is a little short
>game is lacking monsters
>games as a service doesnt work for mh
>games as as ervice has been slowly progressing compared to world

>>713632873
sorry forgot the most damning thing - IT RUNS LIKE SHIT. Almost as bad as world/iceborne, capcom is so fucking lazy is surreal.

>>713632873
>no layered weps on launch
wilds wasnt the only game with this problem
>first 1-2 hours of the game is FUCKING BAD what were they thinking man?
wilds is DEFINITELY not the only game with this problem, as a 2fag you should know this
>muh performance
works on my poorfag machine, try console or a halfway-decent computer

I mean, Wilds is insultingly easy.

You can, and many did, beat HR Arkveld easily using base HR gear. There is no progression of gear because the game is so easy that you have no drive to improve any of it. And the funny thing is that when you do want to improve gear, you get it incredibly quickly thanks to the game telling you you'll get a fucking mantle or gem before you even bother starting the quest.
Focus Mode is legitimately a game-ruining mechanic. I think it's significantly worse than the Clutch Claw. It's the most egregious casualization I've ever seen in ANY game.
So the gameplay's not good, the game has no longevity because you're done with HR about 5 hours into it, and it's not even fun to just hunt stuff to hunt stuff because the entire roster is, no exaggeration, easier than Great Jagras.

>>713628179 (OP)
Ive beaten the game clear through tempered mizu, forced "walkies" left such a bad taste in my mouth I refuse to reinstall this shit

>>713633136
>its ok because they did it before

>>713634429
its a much less valid criticism of wilds when it's been true in basically every MH game, and someone attempting to swing their dick around as a longtime player would understand this and not make such a criticism, so you are either lying about your tenure or just making criticisms that you know are stupid

>>713629121
>but who cares if there are elder dragons or not?
NTA but me, they're a staple of the franchise,a MonHun without EDs is like an angel without wings

>>713628179 (OP)
No content
Runs like shit
Looks like shit
The combat flow is completely braindead, the exact opposite of what MH should play like
First two issues can be fixed, the other two are unfixable even with the G rank expansion.

>>713634831
maybe they were, now elder dwagons aren't special anymore because there are so many. i'm actually surprised they didn't just slap this label on arkveld, make him uncapturable and call it a day

>>713633230
>focus mode
nah
theres nothing wrong with focus mode, in fact, i would say that it was a necessary addition to add more dynamism to MHs otherwise generations old combat
the problem is that they didnt bother to make the monsters harder to compensate for the added ease of playing that focus mode gives. in fact they made them even easier. monsters should have become more reactive and agile so that now youre BOTH able to reposition and re-aim, but they didnt do that

Frankly, the game not having Elder Dragons is a blessing in my eyes.

>>713628179 (OP)
It's literally unfinished. I'm waiting for the "U" version to drop with the expac, then waiting to see if they've fixed ANY of it, then maybe I'll pick it up again. Until that point, I'm done with the series.

They ended up releasing an early access game and 10M retards bought it. Shit is so insultingly bad. People who have any faith in Wilds' TUs or expansion are lost causes.

>>713632324
Didn't it come out this year? How's it already on sale?

>>713632771
I wasn't going to buy it while it still has denuvo anyway. But yes. If a game has this many negative reviews, it is almost certainly bad.And it's not like I only base it on the reviews. It also seems to focus on everything that I disliked about world and rise. The aesthetic is bland, and the npc's are too brown. I am fairly certain my pc is good enough to run it without issues, but the poor performance is also a potential issue.

>>713633230
HR Gear? I beat that piece of shit with the low rank armor and weapon that the game gives you at the beginning, no upgrades of ANY kind and without making a single potion (The Palico is so broken that you don't even need to use healing items) HR Arkveld took me like 20 minutes or something with that gear, absolutely embarrassing, MonHun is dead.

>>713628179 (OP)
Ugly
Runs like shit
Free aim makes it easy
Wounds just stun lock monsters
Slow content rollout
Gay story

>>713635259
>monsters should have become more reactive and agile so that now youre BOTH able to reposition and re-aim
So basically Risebreak's tracking that monsters had

>>713628179 (OP)
Nothing to do, fired it up after weeks yesterday to not miss out to hadoken some monsters but it's still not enough to keep you at it for more than a few rounds.

>>713635531
Good gwailo... yes.... the paper-thin excuses..... such an obedient white pig

The game looks worse than previous games and runs like complete dog shit. I don't know what they expected to happen when the game runs like shit on ALL platforms. The game can't even run at a decent framerate at any native resolution, on any platform which is baffling when you consider when this game started development and the target actually being console which it can't run well on either

>>713635334
>plains
chatacabra (pushover, not a real monster)
quematrice
doshugama
balahara
rey dau
gypceros (high rank only except still a pushover)
>forest
congalala (pushover, not a real monster)
lala barina
rathian
rathalos
mizutsune (high rank only)
yian kut-ku (high rank only)
doshugama
uth duna
>iceshard cliffs
blangonga (pushover, not a real monster)
nerscylla
hirabami
jin dahaad (arena fight only)
gore magala (high rank only)
>oilwhatever caves
rompopolo (pushover, not a real monster)
gravios
rathalos
rathian
ajarakan
nu udra
>wyverian place
guardian rathalos
guardian doshugama
guardian odogaron
guardian anjanath
doshugama
rathalos
xu wu
zoh shia (arena fight only, high rank only outside 1st story mode fight)
>all biomes
arkveld
guardian arkveld (doesnt count since its story mode fights only)

now out of that list consider that the only monsters worth hunting at endgame are:
arkveld (8 stars only)
gore magala
tempered rey dau
zoh shia

>>713635642
rise and sunbreak were piles of dogshit held back by the fact that they were made for shit tier handhelds
but i must admit
they did that part, if nothing else, right

>>713636240
K?
That's more to do with the low difficulty and the amount of shitter monsters more than Elder Dragons specifically.

>>713636240
>worth hunting at endgame
None really. Currently if you reach "end game" you have nothing to do since you can craft 2.5 armor sets and be good for almost all weapons and the artisan weapons are minmaxing you don't really need. Honestly riding around and whacking pushovers is more fun than your 80th arkveld from saved hunts.

>>713636321
Rampage was the only weakpoint compared to the shit found in wilds and world
World was worse than rise and it's a damn shame capcom didn't do more to improve the presentation it felt like a actual sequel to generations something both teams were able to do up until world which felt like a step back. Iceborne with tenderizing killed the game for me

>>713634823
>games shouldn't and can't improve with more entries, it's ok they are getting worse in some ways
>y-you're lying

kys nig

>>713628179 (OP)
Its bizarre that its the only game I can think of that is only fun during the 40-50 hour mark and not before or after
>shit story that handholds you and progresses your rank too fast while simultaneously being so slow because of cutscenes
>beat the game
>hell yeah lets get some better gear and hunt some cool endgame monsters
>have fun for 2 days
>oh there is nothing to do and the endgame is so easy its not even fun

I unironically run a crit draw GS build because this game is a joke and I refuse to put any more effort into it.
It works great

>>713636782
it's not getting worse, it's ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY, and to frame it as a criticism of wilds specifically makes no sense, larper

Like most people have said already, there was just not enough content to keep me going after TU1. And I'm already the outlier that put in over 100 hours and Platinumed the game. Once I got my end game build settled, the ONLY thing to grind for was Artian Weapons and getting one more optimal than what I had already was such a minor increase with how easy monsters are that it didn't feel worth it. Say what you will about how tedious deco and charm farming were for World and Rise, but at least getting the ones you wanted really felt like it changed something. In Wilds I had every deco I needed by the end of the, "real," story. Without G rank and more monsters or at least more arch tempered monsters, there's no reason to keep going.

>>713636656
>world was worse than rise
i dont think so, tim

>>713628179 (OP)
got mogged by picrel

>>713635259
>theres nothing wrong with focus mode, in fact, i would say that it was a necessary addition to add more dynamism to MHs otherwise generations old combat
I started with World and I don't agree one bit. It just makes it play like bog-standard action games in the market

My main gripes are
>the story bad and GETS IN THE WAY
all the monster hunter story suck but wilds actually gets in your way, the constant follow X, slow walk and walk talk bullshit was driving me crazy, and of couse I don't even need to mention Nata right

>you dont feel like you're hunting anything anymore, it's a boss rush now
the seikret knows where everything is so there's no need to track any monster now

>it's too fucking easy
all monsters die in 5 minutes tops so you don't need to care about your gear that much


It's simple, capcom went for a bigger audience, they got that just look at steam launch players, but now that the normies moved on, the veterans went back do world and even fucking rise because there's no challange in wilds.

>>713628179 (OP)
>Bad story you're forced to sit through
>Stupidly easy, there's nothing to strive or work for
>New mechanics kinda suck, so it's just more of the older games except easy and with bad story
>Shallow content, game needs like 3 years to be finished later (you will pay 40-50 dollars for this privilege)
>Most weapons feel worse
>The controls, series staple or not, are starting to be a pretty glaring shortcoming that the game is trying everything to dance around and pretend like it's not a problem
>Your Yoshi autonavigates areas, meaning instead of moving between areas, you're being carried between encounters like a pretend loading screen, meaning actually fighting monsters becomes a task, not a process
>Your Yoshi in general skips as much of the game as you want to skip, meaning none of the game is made with conviction, it is made to be skipped
>Almost no actual innovation since World. Many mechanics introduced are nothingburger, or else are outright lies that apply to one specific example marketed as an entire mechanic (monster packs, for example), or else are gimmicks mostly serving to skip or otherwise trivialize fights.
>Between all these changes, the game is no longer monster hunter, it is monster killer.

Almost none of these things are unique to monster hunter, almost all of them have been repeated ad nauseum by other games before casualizing and streamlining the experience.
Skipping the content between "hype moments" is a death knell for any series built on process.

>>713637398
Really?
Mechanically it was a step back from generations and had a lot off odd design choice down from the unskippable cut scenes and the horrible cast of forgettable side characters. It was up until world the most souless story in the franchise but the cast of world minus that annoying faggot are more likable or memorable than the world cast. Other than it being a switch port and rampage which imo is not as bad as having your g rank revolve around garbage like crutch claw can you give me reasons why it's bad?

>>713628179 (OP)
>Genuinely what happened?
World happened. World killed the franchise and did irrepairable damage to it after adding countless dog shit mechanics and changes.

The "next-gen" feel has worn off and we're left with the bitter reality that Monster Hunter was better before World, whether you prefer the FU, 3U, 4U, or GU. They're all better than what we got in Iceborne/Sunbreak and what Wilds is getting.

>>713638151
>switch port
that alone is enough to make it worse than world but FUCK IT im in a shit mood so youre getting it now
1. dango is retarded and gay compared to the feasts of world
2. its environments are simplistic dogshit compared to world biomes, especially iceborne ones
3. the game looks like fucking shit even on high end pcs, compared to world, all thanks to console limitations
4. rampage
5. a literally nonexistent story; i know story isnt a big thing for MH (or at least it shouldnt be), but that doesnt mean you shouldnt have anything of consequence
6. weapon movesets are ass compared to world until you get to sunbreak for different styles, and even THEN theyre mostly gimmicks
7. astera and the iceborne village beat the piss out of rise's town, like its not even a fucking contest. both aesthetically and in terms of locations of things
8. no smaller details like room decorating, because the fucking handhelds couldnt handle it (lol see what i did there)
9. the npcs are the most annoying false-upbeat anime cancer shit ever. dont get me wrong, world npcs arent much better, but at least they go for a slightly more tolerable 'tough guy in the new wilderness' shtick instead of some faggot anime 'do your best hunter-kun!' bullshit
10. the dog companions are dumb, we already have palicos and thats more than enough
there you go 10 reasons that rise is shit and worse than worlds

>>713637000
and it shouldnt be that way RETARD why cant monster hunterfags get this through their thick skulls?

>>713637640
>mogged by a low effort cashgrab
maybe when nightrign gets all those promised updates

Base Monster Hunter has always been a waste of time. Turns out there's a good reason why for the longest time, people outside japan only ever got the ultimate versions.

>>713638151
not him but imo Rise's only true problem as a video game was rampages, that shit was just boring filler
as a MH game specifically sure you can whine about anything different from [older game] but nothing's particularly bad imo. The game is fun and ignoring wirebugs just means you plat the game like a previous entry. Clutch claw was lame and ignoring it means you have to deal with shitzones that wouldn't exist otherwise.
I think World had better fightsbut I had fun with both.
Wilds however was mostly forgettable and I only remember parts because of how much they sucked. The monsters are ok...They could use bigger numbers but nothing really stands out.

>>713639473
Old base MH games (F1, F2, and Tri) where great. It only became a issue with 4 when they heavily nerfed LR and HR content.

>make weapon and armor materials easier to get
>I know, let's make add tickets as crafting requirements
>and only give 1-3 tickets per hunt so they keep farming monsters
Fuck these niggas

>>713635259
>theres nothing wrong with focus mode
shit bait made me reply

>>713641225
can it truly be called a shit bait though, if it did ultimately make you reply?

>>713629508
I like Wilds GL better desu. Rise GL was basically a fundamentally different weapon, I like being a tank on legs that walks kinda slow but shits fire everywhere, and Wilds GL is easily the best iteration of that.
I admit that removing Blast Dash altogether kinda just fucks everyone that preferred that playstyle, though.

Maybe bring back Accel Axe and have it play like some Aerial-style GL/Rise GL homunculus?

Nata might be the worst character capcom has ever created.
Stupid annoying fucker does NOTHING good.

>>713640389
I feel like you guys played a different series than me, old MH is really fucking easy unless you're trying to solo Hub quests while doing progression, which no shit because those are balanced for multiplayer.

>>713642319
Yes. That's literally where the difficulty comes from. Most people didn't have online in 1st/2nd gen until they added wifi for Tri/4. Hub used to feel like you HAD to team up just to progress, let alone farm. Now that solo scaling is a thing, your wasting more time by teaming up rather than just soloing everything. Soloing should always be harder.

>>713641928
The character improved somewhat when I started pretending he was just incredibly racist.
It made his rants about how the white devil took his village marginally more entertaining.

What's the point when mons die in 3 minutes

>>713643042
>Now that solo scaling is a thing, your wasting more time by teaming up rather than just soloing
untrue, monster scaling is only 1.5 for 2 players
and 3x for 4 players
it's far more efficient to co-op... and obviously more fun

>>713643042
This is so dumb god fuck you people are seriously stupid
>Me playing these two games in the entire series incorrectly?
>Yeah, that's what the series is about

Capcom solved the genre with GU. Now the MH team has to change core mechanics for change's sake, in order to justify releasing new MH games.

>>713644018
>>713644193
To put it another way, imagine if hub never existed and village quests where the only versions of quests you could play. That's essentially what solo scaling does. But now it includes G rank too. Allowing you to solo a version of the game that's easier than what solo HR hub used to be. Genuinely one of the worst changes they made.

>>713628179 (OP)
>0.216% players

>>713643832
Play MHS2, meet Ena and your opinion of Nata will get worse and you will not be able to cope by pretending.

i returnedtosunbreak

>>713628179 (OP)
>Genuinely what happened?
They made world 2 but world also sucks.
However it's okay when world sucks in the same way wilds sucks because it was babbies first MH game and it also never ran as bad as wilds does.

>>713648186
>never ran as bad as wilds does
People were complaining on release months. Iceborne deleted people's saves even