>>713664497 (OP)

>>713664497 (OP)
Overall, good, but Chris Avellone REALLY misunderstood the universe, what "balance of the Force" means, you can't fight Kreia on her more insane ideas, and it feels like a wet fart of an ending. It's funny to me that this game gets so much praise regarding writing over KOTOR1 when KOTOR2 has far less memorable party members, the villains are more one-dimensional than Malak, and Jolee Bindo was able to get across the idea regarding ambiguity regarding the usage of the Force in about 1/20 of the time Kreia goes on harping about it.

Kreia is well written. She's also nuts.

>>713664565
Dog

>>713664636
>Overall, good, but Chris Avellone REALLY misunderstood the universe, what "balance of the Force" means,
Same goes for everyone writing Star Wars, its inconsistent even between the OT and Prequels.

>>713664636
>Malak
>Not one dimension

>>713664931
He at least admits that (if you're light side) everything he believed in the Sith was a lie and wondered if their places had been switched that he'd have turned out like Revan.

Yeah. It's not a lot, but he does have more dimension that Darth Hungry-boi and Darth Angry-Rock.

>>713664636
Finally someone right about Jolee Bindo.

>>713664497 (OP)
downgrade from the first game

>>713664565
Video dog
>>713664497 (OP)
Boring

>>713665168
>>713664636
Jolee is half assed. He's still a good guy he just doesn't like the council

>>713664497 (OP)
I feel like I never got all of the companion routes completed but I can't tell. I know the game released in an "unfinished" state but were companion routes unfinished too or just really simple?

>>713664497 (OP)
I like it.

>>713664636
Jolee Dindu lol

this + Kotor 1 are the only good single player star wars games that have and ever will exist

>>713665321
>improved rpg systems
>improved combat
>better characters
>better music
>better dialogue
>better locations
>better items
So uh... which part is the downgrade?

>>713664636
There's also the fact that the rest of the game outside of Kreia is dogshit. Nearly all the hub worlds have fuckall quests and basically no story.

Telling me that I'm supposed to care about an uprising I had a grand total of 30 minutes to learn about? Hilarious.

Not that it's Obsidian's fault, they got rushed to release, but fuck me if it isn't inferior to KOTOR 1 in basically every way beyond the (pretentious) character of Kreia.

>>713665570
Polish, KOTOR2 felt decidedly unfinished and janky, needed mods to fix it.

>>713665570
this>>713665618

>>713665561
Blatantly wrong.

>>713664497 (OP)
clearly rushed.

>>713664497 (OP)
issokay with the patch

>>713664636
>>713665612
KOTOR 1's dogshit writing kills it. It's unplayable if you have even bare minimum standards. The player character dialogue options are some of the most embarrassing shit ever written for Star Wars. Mass Effect is the far superior BioWare game.

>>713665570
>improved combat
Spam flurry and lightning storm to win
>better characters
They have a dark past then you make them into a Jedi, whoa.
>better locations
You're out of your mind if you think Onderon is better than something like Manaan or Korriban.
>better items
Oh boy, I love picking up Darth Malak's armor from the random begger I flurry'd.

>>713665405
Companion routes were definitely unfinished. I haven't played the game in like fifteen years but I know for certain there were scenes like Hanharr sacrificing himself to save the Exile on Malachor if your affinity with him was high enough and HK interfering in the confrontation between Remote and G0-T0 (his allegiance would have been decided by your choices on the cut droid factory planet).

>>713664497 (OP)
Kriea is hot.

>>713666016
>[Force Persuade]:You do not want to fuck the jedith granny.

I prefer kotor1, 2's ending is kinda dogshit anticlimactic and has insufficient waifus

Malachor V is one of the most absolute dogshit levels of any game I have ever played.

>>713664497 (OP)
Opening segment was way too fucking long.

>>713666613
Telos is the the dragging part. Peragus-II is actually bearable.

>>713665612
Kreia's segments are all complete in the game. So much of the rest of the game's writing and characters aren't. Really makes you think about their priorities.

>>713666457
It's the same shit as Starforge

>>713665168
He BTFO's KOTOR2's angry Marxist-grandma
https://youtu.be/jhQcRdDqGDw?si=QgxNUlGZMjB5-ApJ

https://youtu.be/nvQcB3Fazbs?si=2d3SO0acLSIUqDA7

>>713664497 (OP)
Great game. Better than the first in both gameplay and story. But you need good taste to realize that.

>>713667240
https://youtu.be/PM2Fa4RIiTw?si=gjNIfoNcJCSSoARZ

>>713667325
>But you need good taste to realize that.
Obshidiots everyone.

>>713667325
An unfinished game even with restoration mods can't be the best one.

>>713664497 (OP)
It's cool.
Master robes are /fa/

>>713665612
>Telling me that I'm supposed to care about an uprising I had a grand total of 30 minutes to learn about? Hilarious.
only if you're a goodie, otherwise it's just an obstacle in the way of your real objective of the jedi master

>>713665612
>Nearly all the hub worlds have fuckall quests and basically no story.
You could apply this same criticism to 1.
>oh look another planet where the aliens are oppressed by Czerka corp

>>713667639
The content that's there is better than anything in KOTOR 1, so yes.

>crying about obsidian/avellone/kreia thread
yawn

>>713664497 (OP)
I wish the combat was harder. Kotor 1's difficulty curve seems much better tuned, early game in 1 I'm actually using stims and grenades to survive tougher battles, where in 2 you can snowball extremely early and turn the game into hitting the "I win" button over and over

>>713667771
I'm not saying 1's quest and world design was peak or anything, but at least there was SOMETHING to each planet that was semi-unique or interesting. Manaan's underwater base, Dantooine's Sand Raiders, Korriban's Sith Academy, each planet at least tried to present something different to the player, compared to 2's nothing. Not even bad stuff, just nothing.

If 2 didn't have the admittedly interesting character of Kreia and some neat lore bits, no one would really care about it.

>>713668681
>if the game lacked elements making up said game it would not be as good

wowie

>>713664497 (OP)
one of the greatest games ever

>>713667325
He hated mace dindu because of his skin color.

>>713664497 (OP)
The most unique way to experience star wars and everyone should play through it once if they like star wars

>>713667114
Nah. Starforge can be visually interesting at least
The copy/paste on the Sith Academy and the
>Do you want to randomly gas your party members
Button bring Malachor down

>>713668343
I think the only really hard moments in KOTOR II are the times you have to play your companions with the restored content mod. Especially when you don’t know that’s going to happen

>>713664497 (OP)
played the first one and loved it but i just started this and man the peragus sequence was really boring. does it get better? (no spoilers pls)

>>713669984
>Starforge can be visually interesting
Lmao how ? It’s the same fucking level with endless goons and little to do besides getting the Revan robes

>>713664565
>My bone for yours

>>713670039
it does. everyone hates peragus, at least on their first playthrough

>>713670708
okay great I'll keep playing, leaving this thread to avoid spoilers

>>713664565
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>>713664497 (OP)
I hated the darker tone but in spite of that it had an oddly comfy vibe to it. Also mira is fuck fucking but handmaiden is for sleeping with your head in her lap while she caresses your head, she just needs a better haircut.

What's the most fun class/playstyle for it?

>>713675207
Dual blaster Consular/Assassin.

>>713664565
>Your arrogance blinds you, Master Yoda.

>>713664497 (OP)
it's pretty fun