Tonight's the night. The Dragon's Dogma 2 DLC will be a surprise reveal to end the Capcom Showcase.

Would be cool, but no.

>>713713349
it's all part of itsuno's longterm plan

>>713713267 (OP)
I believe... I BELIEVE!

>>713713267 (OP)
Gonna take a screen of this and post it when they dont do shit about DD2

>>713713267 (OP)
you're like ten years early for new DD content

>>713713267 (OP)
I don't think so...but I always posted about having faith Pragmata was alive. With Capcom, anything is possible.

>>713713267 (OP)
At this point you're just trying to torture us.

>>713716576
Capcom's silence is doing that to us

>>713714858
itsuno's new dogma-like will be out before then though

Who would win in a fight? DD2 dlc or Silk Song release date?

>new vocations
>new skills for existing vocations
>hard mode & NG+ scaling
>blocked doorways open up as new dungeons
>those new dungeon's lead to a BBI style end-game replayable mega-dungeon
>loot overhauled to be more rewarding
>new enemy types
>enemy spawns overhauled to be somewhat random

It's going to make DD2 the 10/10 it should've been at release

>>713713267 (OP)
Post the fake leak infodump from yesterday

There was a necro class if I remember

No one will care and the DLC will flop. So much goodwill and hype was killed on 2's release because of the MTX and performance issues. Of those players that stuck with it, most dropped it or finished but felt let down. The few left are fans that will get the DLC.

i piss on the corpse of shitsuno's sugma
TWO OPPORTUNITIES
NO GOOD GAMES
1 DECENT DLC HE DIDN'T WORK ON
INFINITE POTENTIAL IN THE MINDS OF THE MENTALLY INCAPACITATED

As much as I want it to happen, even though Dark Arisen was made without Itsuno I worry after the response to DD2 at launch and his departure that there just might not be anyone in a high enough position at Capcom to champion a DLC expansion pitch to get the greenlight. I think if Capcom has any further ambition to keep the IP going (they should, it's literally the only successful new IP launch Capcom has had in over a decade.) that they do a DLC expansion, but I can just as easily see the IP getting put on the shelf with no one to champion it like with what happened to Mega Man when no one wanted to step up and pitch a new game following Inafune's departure.

I just also hope that Itsuno doesn't get fucked over by his Chinese handlers at his new studio too. Tencent is more globally active than a company like Netease but as the domestic Chinese game industry continues to grow I wouldn't consider it impossible to similarly pull out of their foreign business endeavors like NetEase has been doing to focus on growing their domestic business. Nagoshi (the old Yakuza guy from Sega) just had his studio that was funded and formed by NetEase shutdown recently before it ever could have released something as part of it's ongoing efforts to pull out of funding non-chinese studios.

>>713713267 (OP)
lol, lmao even
just let it die man, go and play DDO instead that shit has more vocations

They tell you what they're showing at these Capcom showcases, as much as I'd like a super secret surprise reveal, it's not happening. An expansion could still be on the table but not for tonight at least.

>>713722161
Yeah I wouldn't be expecting it either. While I have my doubts that a DLC expansion is happening, to be fair to the notion it took Resident Evil 8 over a year and a half to see it's DLC expansion release. Now granted - Capcom had announced that DLC was in production much earlier than when they finally revealed it, but Capcom has established a cadence of spacing out when they release their DLC far enough away to give them a good excuse to release a new package of the game + DLC to still sell it at full price usually around the time they start to have the stomach to offer a price cut. If we reach the 2 year anniversary with nothing however, at that point I'm considering any real possible development towards the game as over. It'll be a shame, but it is what it is.

>>713722815
If they are making an expansion, they might wan to deliberately wait until it's like 90% done instead of revealing it too early so people don't build too much hype/expectations. I think that's partially what happened with the intial release so they may have saw how hyped people got and want to avoid that this time. But yeah, I think this might be the last year for a potential announcement. Any longer and the IP is either dormant/dead again or they're working on 3.

>>713724137
I feel like there's no way that they moved straight to 3 before making a DLC both because the base game already dropped hints of a northern realm in item descriptions and text bubbles during loading screens, which always felt like the seeds for a DLC expansion and that DLC production is simply too profitable for these type of games not to pursue as a way to collect more revenue before moving onto the next project. (IF they assess that pouring such resources into one would be financially worth it.) I think if we hit the 2 year mark with nothing, it's safer to just simply presume that the IP is now dormant. I see considerable merit in your line of thinking however, and I could see what might just end up being a very quick announcement to release lead time if they have been working on DLC. (Which I would presume is probably something closer in scope to a Shadow of the Erdtree as a full proper expansion.)

I would note that currently there is a gap in Capcom's current release schedule with nothing notable announced for the fall/holiday season. Currently all of their announced major projects are all slated for 2026 releases, that fall window might be what they've been planning a DLC expansion launch for, it would also fit the same lead time they had when they revealed the RE8 DLC. It was revealed in the summer, and then released in the fall that same year.

>>713721053
holy mother of copium

It's legit being shown tonight. Not shitposting.

woowee, if only the game was good in the first place

>>713713267 (OP)
I gotta let go man, I know the score, but I keep hanging on like its different.

>>713725529
I found that what DD2 attempted to do well, it really did do pretty well, and what it attempted to do was the feeling of setting out from gran soren with a destination in mind and just walking through the world until you got there. It's a really nice world.

The problem was everything else. It needs some sort of like, "expedition mode" where they seed random events in the world on a path between two points, and expect you to figure it out.

>>713713267 (OP)
>showcase at midnight
>have to get up for work at 5
no, thanks. i'll be reading about it on the shitter at 5:05.

>>713726083
THe game needed 2 more regions or yes, some random generation content to "explore" like an endless tower or dungeon. The adventure aspect with a party is still there, it just fails at the other stuff. Like why is the customization so limited, there should be way more than this in a game like this, and the enemy variety is way too aparent due to the fixed spawns, mods show that this didnt even need to be the case, its easy to get enemies to roam and provide more interesting encounters.

BWA HA HA HA HA

dragon's dogma has its separate stream not tied to capcom

>>713721421
>So much goodwill and hype was killed on 2's release because of the MTX and performance issues
The MTX didn't do shit. People blew them out of proportion, even when informed this is common practice for Capcom now, and you can play the game just fine without them. RE4R had worse MTX, but that's their flagship series, so it was obviously ignored.
Performance issues definitely hurt it more than anything. That and the map being fucking huge, yet just as, if not more, empty than DD1. The limitations and downgrades from DD1 in general left the game feeling just as unfinished as DD1; even though the "twist" was interesting, it doesn't make up for the rest of the game.
Sucks that the game can be pretty fun, but playing it feels like you're being carrot-and-stick'ed to avoid seeing how much is missing.

>>713726360
which mod makes the creatures roam? I know there's a random spawn mod but not seen one that makes them roam away from the spawn points

>>713715007
>With Capcom, anything is possible
especially rushing out content simply to meet a financial quarter goal

how long until the show?

>>713713267 (OP)
at this point, isn't it too late too little?
they aren't going to unfuck the story, they aren't going to take all the worthwhile loot out of shops and put them into the empty boring caves, they aren't going to fix the lack of enemy variety.
at this point I really don't care about a dark arisen style dlc

>>713713267 (OP)
Did they fix the performance yet?

>>713726816
The monster infighting one, it seems to effectively make monsters roam around as they see something in the distance and approach it and end up in places they normally arent.

>>713728561
Its better than it was but its not fixed, it still doesnt run very well. RE Engine just sucks, Monster Hunter Wilds still runs like shit too.

Capcom showcases are always trash. It's going to be 95% monsterhunter and 1% each for the other games. DD2 isn't listed on the games being talked about in the showcase so it literally has 0% chance of appearing. It's dead jim.

>>713713267 (OP)
nice!
more DD2 is good news.

nah, after wilds I have 0 hope for capcom anymore
they're back to their crapcom era in full throttle

give it to me straight lads......is DD2 worth playing AT ALL? How does the gameplay stack compared to DD1? I just want a high fantasy game to play

>>713729293
anyone who says no is trans.

>>713729293
on sale, dont pay full price
its fun but extremely half baked, you'll reach the end and think "huh? that was it?"

>>713729293
The game is fine, it feels different to DD1 but its not bad at all. The dissapointment comes from the lack of evolution and real improvement after 10 years, the things that it "improved" are just standard fare for games now, they arent special jsut because DD is doing them now. Its just different, rather than an improvement, and thats why it kindof sucks.

>>713729293
of course its worth playing it, DD2 is a blast!

>>713729231
>doesnt like Wilds
>doesnt like DD2
you niggers aren’t real, you have to be trolling. I refuse to believe there truly is someone out there with such an abysmal shit taste in vidya.
You might as well be a total different species.

>>713729293
if you can get it for $30 or under, yeah sure. The problem at release (and to this day) was that they charged $70 for an empty shell of a game. low enemy variety, low number of vocations, low number of skills, near non-existent rewards for exploration.

Basically the combat is great, but it has little content to keep it going for long and they've not improved its shortcommings post launch.

>>713729741
why are capcom cockslupers like this? have some fucking standards nigga

>>713714245
why take a screenshot of something 90% of people know isn't going to happen? who are you impressing? maybe you'd like to take a screenshot of someone saying 'bloodborne 2 at game awards' and post that too?

>>713729741
I enjoyed both for what they were but you're the reason games are dogshit now, not just capcom, all games. Thank faggot

>>713713267 (OP)
Why bother? I was done with this game ages ago.

>>713729741
arent they both overwhelmingly negative on steam? Thats the majority opinion, whats hard to believe about it?

>>713731873
Nta but Steam reviews are far from a majority opinion on anything.

>>713731978
Its a pretty good indication if 100k people think your game is trash, most people think it is trash. You wouldn't be able to poll every single person that played the game, but it is a large enough sample size to where it gives us a good idea of what the full population thinks.

>>713732143
No it's not, and you forget that a large amount of people play games on consoles, especially Japanese ones.

>>713729293
My biggest problem with DD2 is I had exhausted all the content and still wanted to play

>>713732516
Who gives a fuck what dumb consoleniggers think?

>>713732516
The fact the games sales quickly flatlined tells you everything you need to know about the general player reception. Games with good reception & good word of mouth keep selling well post-launch like E33 right now, or ER or BG3. DD2 had a strong launch and then instantly dropped dead due to poor word of mouth.

>>713713267 (OP)
>dragons dogshit 2 dlc will be good trust!
lol

Still mad about all that time I wasted trying to find a way into the centre of the starter area, only to find out it's completely inaccessible wasted space.

>>713733019
kek you mean mountain area with invisible walls around it? There's a few areas with lazy invisible walls blocking off chunks of the world, but that's the biggest one

>>713713267 (OP)
lets gooooo!
DD2! DD2! DD2!
Man I love this game, what a blast it is.

>>713732516
You dont understand how statistics and averages work.

>>713733940
nta but you have to be a faggot to base your opinion on steam charts.
>reee I can have fun with a game unless it has a steady concurrent player above 100k at all times reeeeeeeeeee!
kill yourself, faggot.

>>713734090
Nobody said this except you. Are you mentally ill?

>>713733940
Steam reviews alone are not enough since the game released on multiple platforms. I don't even care if the majority view of it is negative but trying to base that belief solely on Steam reviews is beyond retarded. Unless like 90% of the sales were on Steam then maybe you'd be right but I don't know what the breakdown is for each platform.

>>713734182
then why do you fucking care about player numbers you nigger?
DD2 is a very niche game just like the first, stop expecting every nigger faggot like you out there to show appreciation for it.
once again, kill yourself.

>dd2 dlc is better than every game ever made
it will happen

Do you think games like this might benefit from stats on gear? Like diablo / grim dawn? It might add some incentive to keep playing.

>>713734214
if you poll 100k people on the subject, that is a large enough sample for it to be representative. Its a larger sample than the majority of research you'll see and it's most likely about as good as its going to get and the statistical deviation is not going to change it from an overwhelmingly negative sentiment to a positive one. Beyond that, the only conclusion you could draw is that "we just dont know and we can never know" and that would apply to pretty much anything ever. It certainly does not suggest the opposite is true in any capacity though.
>>713734305
>then why do you fucking care about player numbers
Nobody ever referenced player numbers. You are literally so mentally ill you are arguing with your own brain ghosts.

I forgot this game exists and Crapcom probably did too

>>713713267 (OP)
Its dead Jim

>>713734491
>hur hur I was talking about the steam reviews and not player number huuurrr hurrr
kill yourself you dim witted nigger

>>713734768
Its on you for being unable to read. It is ironic that you then go on to come to the conclusion that I'm the dimwitted one, despite you yelling at clouds for several posts.

>>713734845
of course someone who argues like a leftist disingenuous cuck is the type to hate on Itsunos masterpiece.
kill yourself faggot.

>>713729741
Statistically .5% of people willing to buy the game like wilds.

>>713729293
The combat is worse than DD1.
Melee is much clunkier and lacks weight
Some classes are better (warrior) while others are trash unless you spam the same move over and over again
There are two new classes and one is just a buffer type that enhances your pawns, you deal zero dmg youself
There are few enemy types than in DD1
Level design and story/dialogues is even worse than in DD1

>>713734976
>leftist
knowing how to read is not a political issue. Go back to /pol/.

>>713734982
and? only like 0.1% of the world can actually be considered human beings and not humanoid primates.

HOLYYY FUCK ITSUNO JUST ANNOUNCED "ANGEL'S RETRIBUTION" ITS JUST LIKE DRAGON DOGMA 2 BUT 100X BETTER AHHHHHHHHH

>>713734491
100k reviews on one platform out of at least 3 million sales total is not any kind of majority or consensus.

>>713735317
It is a large enough sample to be representative according to the law of large numbers which is statistics 101.

You don't even like Dragon's Dogma that much, you just like the idea of it

>>713735387
>not taking in consideration that pc audience who leave review are chinks n gooks most who have personal issues against capcom
>ignoring the fact that most reviews are faggots crying about how shitty their toasters are
>ignoring the fact that nobody but faggota care about steam reviews and charts
kill yourself.
your posts can all be broken down to you crying that the game isn’t well received by the masses (chinks).
the first game received the same reception yet it prevailed despite you npc
drones hating on it.

>>713736036
You have to jump through this many hoops for your train of thought to even remotely make sense. There is no way you are not brown, stupid and seething.

>>713736187
you mean stating facts instead of being a disingenuous lil faggot such as yourself?

>>713736301
You have not stated a single fact, you just seethe uncontrollably. I have literally introduced basic entry level statistical concepts to you which you seem to deem disingenuous. There is literally no hope for you third world niggers, actual ape IQ.

>>713736473
>reeee please value steam reviews sirs reeeeeee
nah, don’t think I will. I will continue to form my own opinion since I know majority of people in this world have the most abhorrent shit taste for everything. if I listed to steam reviews I would have missed out in having a blast with DD2, like you a faggot like you lmao!

>>713736686
Your only argument have been calling someone a leftist and then the chinks and the gooks. Your opinion means nothing to anybody, you can't even really tell people why you hold it outside of incomprehensive seething and you don't believe in basic math.

>>713735387
Unless every sale was on Steam then no, it's not. Again, you might be right that it has a negative reception overall but this obsession with Steam charts and data is really bad. It's flimsy data, anybody can go a leave whatever they want there for any petty reason. And like I said, Japanese devs have historically been console devs. Most people growing up with Japanese games also played on consoles and the original DD wasn't on PC. Over the last 5-10 years Japanese devs have started to port and release everything on PC but a large part of their audience is still on consoles. Steam reviews are not a good metric to judge overall reception on a multi-platform release, especially a Japanese since the player base might be more fragmented.

>>713729293
Yes, it's comparable to DD1 before Dark Arisen in terms of enemy variety, difficulty, ect- it does have more content purely in terms of # of quests and world size however.

A lot of the hate for DD2 comes from people who expected DD2 to be the game they imagined in their heads DD1 would be if DD1 didn't have the flaws it always had. DD2 is simply DD1 again, with updated graphics, overhauled physics, and a doubling down on many "flaws" that should be clearly identified as intentional design decisions now.

If you liked DD1 (especially before/without Dark Arisen additions) you will enjoy DD2 a comparable amount. If your primary enjoyment of DD1 came from things that were added post launch as DLC/Dark Arisen, or if you felt very passionate that DD1 was flawed and believe a doubling down on it's idiosyncrasies would be a problem for you, then you will probably be very critical of DD2.

>>713736848
>your opinion has no value unless its backed by le steam charts
what a drone you are. it really is hard to not think you are a chink bot.

>>713736936
The dataset is large enough to fulfill the requirements for law of large numbers to apply and it is not even close. Therefore it is not flimsy data by definition of anyone that actually handles data in real life, it is quite reliable. It is more reliable than most scientific data used.
>>713737070
The only reason I can safely assume you are not from any eastern asian country is that you do not comprehend basic math. You are probably either SEA or brazilian.

>>713737201
wtf has me knowing math do anything to do with this now you dumb faggot? I did not dispute your claims. I disputed the fact the char is meaningless since majority of people have shit taste.
you really are a disingenuous nigger.

>>713737458
>wtf has me knowing math do anything to do with this now you dumb faggot?
Because law of large numbers is mathematical proof used to produce accurate statistics. Please keep up. This is why you are stupid.

>>713737680
this is every chink n gook game is trash. its it made by humans its made by these bots with this same mentality.

>>713737868
Your english is slipping again.

Posting kot in hopes of actualizing this bullshit to reality.

>>713737201
Do you know how many of these reviews are actual genuine reviews from a single person and not a bot or somebody making alternate accounts to review bomb it? Do you know how many are actually reviewing the content of the game itself and not just instantly leaving a negative review if it doesn't run on their machine? Maybe you're right, maybe I'm wrong, I don't know but I do not trust Steam reviews as a very good source of data, that's all I'm saying.

>>713738597
I wish that they gave the cats paws instead of human feet.

>>713737026
Pleb take. I liked DD1 even before DA and I see no reason to ever play DD2 again. DA DLC just made some of you crazy I swear.

>>713713267 (OP)
Ok but what if it happens? Wtf are they even suposed to add? What 2 or dungeons and thats it? They are NOT going to add an extra island

>>713739930
Same, also cat ears and tails.

>>713713267 (OP)

>>713738013
was typing while walking the dog but you got the message. youre a faggot, in case it wasnt clear.

Posting the bullshit leak

Tentative title: Dragon’s Dogma 2: The Riftwalker

Expansion to Dragon’s Dogma 2, more of a standalone expansion in scale like Bloodborne Old Hunters or DDDA but with new map and systems

New land: “Mournveld” – highlands with underground tomb-cities and giant's keeps. Artworks aldo show a palace in state of decay, and then a ballroom with creepy mannequins.

New vocations include: “Gravedancer” (uses scythe + necromantic rites to summon spirits and wraiths) and "Warden" (uses flails and magic greatshields that get buffed by storing elemental damage and then using it).

There's a new randomized endgame mode called the Veil as well as an Hard mode.

Purification and Rarifying mechanics return with a new Relic system for gear upgrades

Upgrading weapons and armor can unlock randomized effects like elemental buffs, stat boosts, and unique passives

Players use Purification to cleanse cursed relics in these dungeons, unlocking effects or risking negative drawbacks

Internal target: Q4 2025

It's time to move on

>>713742113
>No fist class.
I just wanna play Fantasy Kenshiro for fuck sakes!
Makes the easiest green/blue hybrid!

>>713734451
it doesn't matter once you hit 20 you are basically immortal

>deep down died for this

>>713742532
capcom could have had their elden ring and they fumbled it for mh wilds /which they've also fumbled)

>>713740203
Megadungeon with the moon and 4 new vocations

No brats, no buy. If I can't make a party of rape midgets im not interested.

>>713742918
Shota nipples erotic...

>>713732516
You are one stupid motherfucker on a site of stupid motherfuckers. You are the stupid motherfucker of the day. kys

>>713740203
>>713713267 (OP)

It won't happen but DD2 is an incredibly easy game to fix. It's main issue is not that it was a BAD game, it was simply unfinished. Adding in the rest of the main story and fleshing out the sidequests that were clearly not done doesn't take a lot of thought processing to get done. What else does it need?

>Rebalance combat, which is now too far in the favor of the player
>Large enemies need to be more stun/stagger/knockdown resistance, as well as be more aggressive
>Enemy diversity is a problem, add in a few new mobs and add some cheap alternate versions of existing ones
>Flesh out the "endgame" post title-drop portion of the game a bit more because holy fuck it's so cool but so much wasted potential

A pipe dream i've always had would be for them to add something with more replayability so that the pawn system doesn't go to waste, give people a reason to keep checking in on the game and work with their or other players pawns instead of just quitting the game and uninstalling.

>>713743857
>no fix for the life alert stun that should just be removed entirely
>nothing that deals with how sluggish everything is
>not wanting 6 active skills to return

I want this anons asshole destroyed by every able bodied man or woman with a phallic object in this thread now.

fuck 2

>>713744220
They baked in some of the skills, it's not really a problem that needs to be at the forefront of shit to fix. "Sluggish" is a fairly generic complaint, you'd have to explain exactly what you are referring to for me to figure out what you are babbling about.

>>713743395
Not at all, you didn't even attempt to respond properly, you're just flinging insults. Consoles have always been important for games and especially Japanese ones since that's where they primarily used to be.

>>713744504
If its not blatantly obvious you can't describe color to the blind. You either know or you don't.
>baked in skills
Your standards are pathetic, you're the type to celebrate premade packaged sandwiches.

>IT'S REAL

>>713744220
>>not wanting 6 active skills to return
They're not going to completely redo the controls and UI. The best you'll get is them adding more abilities as core skills. No point wishing for anything more.

>>713745274
So you don't have a point or lack the intelligence to put it into words. You want to throw out a generic term and then run in a circle screaming like a retard shitting everywhere.

>>713745592
Feigning ignorance doesn't excuse you from criticism.

>>713745592
>bu-but what about muh steam negative reviews? reeeeeeeeeee

>>713746362
>>713744220
>>nothing that deals with how sluggish everything is
You made a broad sweeping statement, were asked to clarify, and are now running in circles shitting yourself because you either never knew what you were talking about to begin with or lack the mental capacity to explain it. "Everything" is "sluggish", are you talking about the story? the combat? the movement? the questing? the exploration? If you could explain your point then people could discuss it and may in fact agree with you, if you can't explain it then brother that's on you and you alone.

"Everything is bad it's the worst ever!!" People like this make discussing any video game on this board, and frankly the internet as a whole these days, a fucking chore, don't be one of them little timmy.

>>713747013
And you were promptly told
>you either know
>or you don't
I can't help you're going full turbo autist because someone isn't agreeing with you.

Hahahahaha nice DD2 DLC reveal

Go to bed, anon.

>they only showed DD2 and Itsuno because it was included in the sale ad
total capcom death. 2 nukes weren't enough.

The dream is fucking dead lads. Guess we're waiting for DD3 at this point.

FUCKING KILL YOURSELF LMAOOOOOOOOOO

>Kunitsu-Gami gets actual content for its anniversary
>DD2 got a casual mode no one asked for and a PNG for its anniversary
Fucking lmao

soulsfag checking on my dogma bros,how are you doing?

See you guys at TGS!

lol
lmao
also wilds is fucking dead

>>713748487
this

This was the last chance for an announcement btw. DD was never going to fly because Capcom just have no interest in it, you can clearly see where their interests lie with how they treat Monster Hunter, it even has AI party members now.

I hate Tsujimoto like you wouldn't believe. Hope he gets run over by a truck.

OH NO NONONONO ITSUNO BROS WHAT HAPPENED

>>713742918
>Not DILF slayers
Almost based

>>713751613
Tsujimoto has a beef with Itsuno who had an original idea for a game like DD and then MH was made. They unironically hate him. It's also why DMC, even though a successful series and DMCV selling 10 million copies gets no fucking attention at all and instead gets sold off to chinks to make shitty mobile spin-off and to Netflix to make a garbage series no one liked.

>>713729293
the combat and exploration are better, but the content just dries up after Vermund and there's no mega-dungeon like BBI
so if you liked DD1 for the figthing and feeling of adventure then you'll like DD2, but if quests and dungeons were what you replayed DD1 for then forget about it
that's why some people are still hopeful for a Dark Arisen like expansion, such an infusion content would signficantly elevate the experience from that it's missing...

>>713752490
dd2 has way better and more unique quests than 1. 1 just has copy paste collect X items Kill Y monsters.
less content variety, yes.

>>713753460
The quests in 2 were fucking retarded. I hated all of the stealth quests and fetch quests

>>713753460
honestely I kinda agree with you on this, but there are some things about DD2 it's best not to discuss here as of yet (I mean for almost a full year it was literally impossible to have genuine discussion about DD2, the thread would be automatically bombed - this game did a wild number on posters here)

however
while I do share your disdain for the quest board slop in DD1, the problem with DD2 quests is that they are only fine in Vermund
when you get to Batthal the quest quality just fucking plummets, crashes and burns
it's super obvious the devs were in the middle of working that region when they got told to wrap it up and release the game
shit, in my first playthrough I genuinely got more than 60 hours just fucking in Vermund alone, but I get to Batthal and not even 10 hours later I'm already at the Volcanic Island
at least with DD1, while the early to mid game is a slog, by the 2nd half quests started getting pretty interesting... then the game abruptly ends that and tells you it's time to face the Dragon...

this franchise is so fucking cursed and deserves better

>>713755025
I fully believe >>713752172 and when covid slowed everything down they took the opportunity to stripmine DD2 to help keep other projects floating and then instead of putting that effort back into the game they told Itsuno to release it in a few months and call it a day. They also most likely didn't want it to creep into the MH6 window and that helped seal the deal.

>>713742113
Never ever

>>713755383
I think it more likely started as a remake and turned into a sequel late in development

>>713756096
Maybe, but it doesn't seem to suffer from design decisions, just a lack of time.

All Itsuno had to do was port the combat from 1 into 2 and then make the map Elden Ring sized and full of challenging enemies. Do that, then fix Warrior, give fighters a mounted attack, and then add spears and unarmed combat. That's it. If Itsuno had done this, it would've been GOTY.

>>713713267 (OP)
If it exists they'll show it at the Tokyo Game Show in September, if nothing has been said for it tomorrow nothing will be shown.

>>713756534
Just play DDO then, has all of that excpet the unarmed combat

>>713729293
wait until it goes down to 20 bucks

>>713721421
Even if it sucks I'll pick it up a few years from now for five bucks like all the other capcom games.

>>713756096
We know Itsuno only stayed at Capcom because they let him make DMC5 and DD2. Those two games were his requirements to stay, Capcom agreed but only if he used RE Engine for DMC5 and I guess they pushed for it with DD2 as well or he felt good about the engine after DMC5. The cycle is an unavoidable part of DD, every game would feel like a reboot or remake because its the same premise of a dragon attacks, you become Arisen and are called to adventure to stop it.

>>713713267 (OP)
BBI2 would fix it, unironically.

>>713756534
>then make the map Elden Ring sized
why do you fags focus on the worst shit?
The map was fine. The problem is there was a complete lack of variety to justify the size. Making the map BIGGER doesn't matter if it's not full of stuff.

>>713761212
The map was actually the best part of the game.

I have no idea why MH6 turned out to be so ugly.

>>713761352
>>713761212
It was dragon's dogma in sequel in the true sense of the word. It had a solid (enough) foundation and then didn't bother capitalizing on it properly. At least DD got the DA expansion to patch some of the holes whilst DD2 just languished.

>>713761212
I don't mean the shitty maps that Dogma 2 had, I mean the unique biomes, aesthetics, and enemies that every area in Elden Ring had.
>Making the map BIGGER doesn't matter if it's not full of stuff.
When I say map, I mean enemies too. If Itsuno had done what I said then he would've had the full dev time to focus solely on the map and the encounters in it. There was no need to waste dev time revamping the combat to be worse than it was in the first game. Just port the combat from 1 into a new game with more content and enemies for me to fight.