Man I remember when games were simply about having fun and none of this political crap...

GCJ raid

is this a xitter or reddit repost

>>713731645
>>713731650
Seething midwits.

>>713731575 (OP)
You are stupid, context matters
I don't remember anything from FF7 talkjng shit on Whites and colonization
Context, asshole, context

Halo: Combat Evolved characters:

><blank> race genetic super soldier
>female AI
>black seagent
>white space ship captain
>genderless high pitched robot
>pride flag colored aliens

>>713731575 (OP)
Yes and
Im gonna be a real nigga witchu op
I didn't play any of these.

>>713731575 (OP)
I remember when games didnt have trannies or faggots

I kinda hate how preachy CoD 4 is. I already know this is MIC propaganda at least let me fully indulge on killing poor people.

>>713731575 (OP)
Reminder that media literacy is a side effect of culture wars brain rot and nobody cared about it before 2014
Millenials are insecure manchildren and that's why they obsess over politics now

>>713731575 (OP)
VTMB is very superficial in everything it aims to do.
Superficial level design
superficial combat
superficial story
superficial themes

its just so shallow and fails to nail any aspect it aims to do

Overrated piece of crap

and the game itself is a buggy mess trash.

>>713731575 (OP)
Correction. We remember when games could cover controversial topics without being obnoxious about it.

>>713732090
Were they though? What about two throw away lines making fun of republics too huh?

what are the politics of nortubel?

>>713731575 (OP)
the difference is that those games were more philosophical/personal and existential rather than just mimicking modern politics

>>713731575 (OP)
Let's try and identify the political topics
Bioshock - City under the sea is probably because of global warming
Beyond Good & Evil - Niggers
Final Fantasy VII - Terrorism is bad, or good, I don't remember
Oddworld - Free the slaves

Oh right, the highly intellectual argument where some normalfag pretends his "ORANGE MAN BAD SUPPORT UKRAINE TRANS RIGHTS FOREVER CHUD" drivel belongs on the same shelf as fictional media that included political themes to tell a mature story that actually makes you think and question things.
Yes man, your "BLACK LESBIANS SMASHING THE FASH ADVENTURE 2" visual novel is the same thing as Deus Ex.

>>713732457
Bioshock is a hamfisted commentary on objectivism written for and by genuine retards that is only remembered because we played it when we were 14 and thought it was deep.

>>713732576
the only yabutt to your argument I can think of is trails in the sky FC doing a false flag terrorism story and entering production of the game 1-2 years after 9/11

>List of problematic male fantasy games

>>713732396
To be fair I wouldn't say they're vague or hardly divisive, especially in a climate where EVERYTHING is divisive. But yeah they're definitely more compelling than "we put in a bunch of gay flags and you can now sit at an ogre's awkward coming out to their parents" The issue isn't politics, it's shit writing and since most writers are liberals and lefties the shit writing will be at the hands of those people.

A good political game asks you who is right
A bad political game tells you who is right

>>713731854
>Seething midwits.
Speaking of

>>713731575 (OP)
It's simple anon.
made up video game politics = good
real world politics inserted directly into a video game with no filter = very bad

>>713731575 (OP)
I remember when political messaging was more than "SIT DOWN, SHUT UP AND LET TRANS BIPOC SPEAK DEY TRUTH"

>>713731575 (OP)
sigh, I swear people misunderstand the meaning of words on purpose just to have a reason to be mad at each other.
When somebody complains a game is political, they mean it's PARTISAN.
When somebody says "but games were always political" they mean IT HAS POLITICS.
They don't mean the same thing, but both sides will use the same word regardless, fuck you.

>>713732576
What games even that?

>>713734457
Fallout was quite explicit for critiquing something in human nature: the war.
Despite it kinda spoonfed the audience, leftists managed to not understand it, and make it like something about anti-capitalism and maybe anti-west.

>>713731575 (OP)
There is a difference between overarching political ideas and shoehorning in current day politics that won't be relevant in five years.

>>713731575 (OP)
>none of this political crap...
>Bioshock
>Deus Ex
lol

>>713734769

>>713734997
Sarcasm's not your forte I take it?

>>713731575 (OP)
"Politics" is actually "shit from the internet".
Internet politics, internet words, internet lango, internet memes.
They all make the game worse, regardless of what sub culture or group or date, it's a one way ticket to making the game shit.

>>713731575 (OP)
You can safely ignore all the politics in those games because they werent the main event like games today.

REMOVE INTERNET FROM GAMES

>>713735321
remove internet from basically everything
return us to the time when going online was a limited resource, required a relatiely high end desktop machine, and a ritual to connect you that had downsides.

all the world's problems and everyone's commentary on them always following you in your pocket was a mistake

>>713734769
The only one I can think of is like recent postal games with karens and covid jokes. shit plays like my dad's facebook feed

>>713732069
sounds like someone got filtered by, hm... the ghost house?

>>713731575 (OP)
The difference is those games weren't moralizing.

>>713731864
>Politics means hating whites and colonization
Shinra exists and is coded as a white organization btw. Thus the game hates whites. Hell, it even ends with white genocide depending on how you view the ending.

>>713732396
>vague
Imagine being that retarded.

>Hardly controversial
Lol. Nuclear weapons are a huge issue even today.

>>713731575 (OP)
But I hate all those games too, OP

>>713734712
So do I.

It's called the present.

>>713732576
>ORANGE MAN BAD
Trump has been mocked, parodied, used as a stand in for villainy and greed, and even portrayed openly as a evil man for literal decades.

>>713735730
>fallout
>Deus Ex
>Metal Gear
>Final Fantasy 7
>Not moralizing
Lol.

>>713735787
lazy bait

>>713735041
>*kneels*
F-Forgive me...

>>713731575 (OP)
Out of all these games only VTMB commented on current day politics, and even then it's only silly joke about Republicans.

>>713731854
killing sand people and russians is a different kind of political than 41% shit and darkies

>>713735967
What ideology is Deus Ex pushing?

>>713732059
>that level where spyro helps defend a gay pride parade from gnorks

>that level where crash has to get past object.motherfucker to raise the pride flag

I dont remember this despite video games always being political.

Truthfully video james were political but usually skeptical or critical of the topic. Not whole cloth heckin supportive.

A contemporary example would be super 3d Noah's ark. It was a hyper sensitive response to Doom that removed all violence and towed to political message of be a good Christian. It sold like shit and wasn't even licensed by Nintendo because it used to be cool to rebel against the system (and the devs were cheap). So cool, in fact, we are still rebelling against the same system despite the fact that it died nearly 40 years ago.

>>713734457
I think Emil gets a bad rap, even if his stories are weak overall he at least mostly understands the fundamentals of a pre-existing setting.

>>713736560
the heckin wrong think that the Government™ is not your friend, and c*nspiracy theories are anything but crazy nonsense

>>713731575 (OP)
Elaborate further this is quite vague. explain each one what makes them similar to current games like concord, dustborn, veilguard you know the all time greats.

>>713736723
Whoa, sounds like crazy far-right ideology.

>>713735025
Why are leftist so childish they can only throw insults instead of acutal good facts. it's like you went to college say something smart instead of screeching what news said..

>>713735874
>It's called the present.
Where every message is about identity politics because that's the only thing separating the left and the right now?

>>713736641
emil is a middle-manager that wormed his way into a creative position he's unqualified for.

>>713737467
I thought he was a writer.

>>713737550
Is writing no longer a creative position?

>>713737754
No your right I just misread.

>>713737225
Yes it's criticizing fringe right wing types

>>713736560
anti-authoritarianism in general honestly

>>713731575 (OP)
Do you want an honest answer?
This is, and have always been, a retarded argument. Politics have always been in entertainment because politics is an instrumental part of humanity ever since the birth of civilization.
However, there's a difference between politics for the sake of entertainment (such as writing a story or a believable world) and politics for the sake of "spreading awareness" if we're being generous or propaganda if we're being harsh.
It's ridiculously hard to create a story without ANY politics -like zero mention of any governmental and societal structures or any implication of such of any kind- and I'm not quite sure it's even possible.
Political messages have also been often done in any entertainment but it's often balanced by its focus on being entertaining primarily (see MGS with its anti-nuclear themes but still focusing on a story/gameplay/characters instead of constantly saying "nukes bad").
The player focus, understandably, will be different if the game is made for primarily spreading some sort of message and constantly putting that in the limelight instead of focusing on the entertainment part.

The real question isn't whether the game has politics or not but the intent of the developers and while many may not be able to articulate why they dislike this shift in focus their pattern recognition will. Furthermore, people often play games to escape from the modern world. A game that's supposed to be high-fantasy then constantly dragging you back to real world politics will ultimately sour the experience as it's no longer as detached from reality as the player wanted it to be.

>>713736641
He actually deserves much worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi51-wjcwp8

>>713731864
>talking shit about colonization is bad

>>713734457
Based Emil and Tim. I love how the toxic Fallout fanbase tries to pit them against each other even though they've been to conventions together and seem to have a lot in common.
Also this incident BTFO Reddit forever so they're doubly based for that.

>>713738641
That was a surprisingly good post considering this is chudcel central

>>713735874
Not really. Before he was president, he was only that one rich guy that showed up in Home Alone for 5 seconds.

>>713736560
It's actually not pushing anything, at least it wasn't at the time, apart from a general "globalism is bad" agenda (which is in a lot of games really). It was meant to be partly satirical. Spector was a huge fan of the X Files and James Bond and smooshed them together.
It's only treated seriously now because scarily it's jumped from science fiction to science reality.

>>713731575 (OP)
Yeah because you were a kid at the time.

>>713731979
When was that? Back when pong was cutting edge? Trannies have been a thing in gaming since Mario 2, retard.

>>713732396
Bitch never played final fantasy tactics. No wonder people think Republicans are retarded. Most media in general has a bias. Intentional or not.

>>713731575 (OP)
Games using politics in their stories does not make it acceptable for devs to make literal propaganda in game form. They are not the same thing.

Kill yourself jaknigger.