Thread 713765181

Does anyone else on /v/ play an instrument?
How the fuck do I learn to play vidya music on this thing without sheet music?

>>713765181 (OP)
>By ear
>By following some random tutorials/cover of the specific song you want to learn
But learn how to read sheet music.It's very useful.
>t. learned how to play piano using sheet music just to play love live songs

>>713765181 (OP)
How did you learn to play saxophone without sheet music? With guitar I just follow youtube tutorials, I never use tabs or sheet music

>>713765181 (OP)
If you're asking for vidya sheet music and can't find any just download midi files for the songs and then have MuseScore or similar software transcribe it for you.

>>713765181 (OP)
If you want to play sax but won't learn how to read sheet music, then you don't really want to learn the sax. Maybe bass guitar would be more your speed.

>>713765181 (OP)
I've had a YouTube channel for game covers for 12 years. It's not worth it.

>>713765181 (OP)
I have a clarinet somewhere, but I haven't played that thing in years. If you know which notes are which on your saxophone, then just sound it out on the instrument and draw the notes on a printed out sheet paper

>>713765181 (OP)
find the midi and open it up on some DAW with a piano roll

>But I still believe
>I still believe
>Through the cold
>And through the heat

>>713765181 (OP)
Expand your Horizons gibbs

>>713765821
what do you mean you have a clarinet somewhere you just don't have a fucking clarinet somewhere

>>713765658
For reference

>>713766051
not everybody does something for fame or money, anon

>>713765181 (OP)
You know what no one who plays guitar ever tells you? It fucking hurts. It's fun, I feel rewarded but after an hour I gotta stop cause I'm fraying the flesh off the ends of my fingers what the fuck dudes a little heads up would have been nice.

>>713766150
Neither do I, but such profound disinterest in something I put my soul into for all of my youth still hurts.

>>713765181 (OP)
kill yourself gibbs

>>713765350
I can read sheet music but I hate being a slave to it and most vidya or anime music doesn't have sheets anyway
I cannot play by ear at all and it pisses me off

>>713766039
Meaning I have it stored in my place somewhere. I casually played it from time to time during my 20s, but I really haven't put much effort into playing the clarinet since my high school band class days.

>>713765181 (OP)
If you want to learn by ear, find a record that you really like and just keep listening to the section over and over again and work it out. Probably good to watch some videos too so you can understand the technique. I'd also work on developing perfect pitch.

Sheet music in itself isn't really that hard to learn. It's a little silly, but you could get it with an hour of concentrated study.

>>713765181 (OP)
Yeah I played clarinet all through college and have been playing classical guitar for a few years now. You should be able to find sheet music for just about anything even if it isn’t in Eb. Piano is popular for covers. From there it’s easy to transpose, or play as is. Otherwise you’re playing by ear

>>713766235
i mean, what was special about your channel? there are a tons of them doing video game covers, you didn't exactly fail at something unique. If you told me yeah I made my own albums and shit and failed but you just copied somebody else's music.

>>713766156
You build calluses as long as you keep up doing it regularly.

>>713766494
I also did three original albums! I guess there was/is nothing special at the end of the day, clearly.

>>713766039
I got OP's clarinet

>>713766039
I have bagpipes somewhere

>>713766315
you basically are stuck on easy mode and need to develop the skills to hear the notes properly.
I always thought of it as what separated an amateur from a professional in terms of skill.

I played piano for 7 years and overall don't regret stopping, but I was made to learn by my parents.

>>713766729
My r13 looks like it went through a combat tour

>>713766426
bitch i already know how to read sheets
is no one on this fucking board literate i said this fucking shit in the OP

>>713767315
> i said this fucking shit in the OP
no you didn't, nigger

>play viola for one year in 5th grade
>have to give it up when I started middle school the next year because I lived out of town and I would have had to be at the school way too early
25 years later and I hate being poor and never able to take lessons BEING POOR SUCKS!!!!

>>713766729
i can't believe these things are real

>>713767440
>>713765181 (OP)
>How the fuck do I learn to play vidya music on this thing without sheet music?
>without sheet music
>WITHOUT
ILLITERATE FUCKING BABOON LIPPED NIGGER

>>713766315
On an instrument like sax you'll want to know your scales (at least what the different kinds are) since that narrows things down by a lot in terms of what notes you're using, then I got a good ear by transcribing vidya music into a tracker for covers. Basically just try writing the sheet music yourself if there isn't any and it will be good experience for ear training.

>>713767594
yes, you want to know how to play it without sheet music, implying you can't read them. It's not the entire board, retard, it's you.

>>713767705
why the FUCK would I ask without sheet music if I DON'T KNOW how to read it when sheet music iS BY FAR THE EASIER WAY
DUMB ILLITERATE NIGGER

>>713765181 (OP)
Bass guitairst here.
Unless you have a trained ear, it ain't happening. Sheet music, tabs and video tutorials are the only way you are gonna do it.

>>713767656
>Basically just try writing the sheet music yourself if there isn't any and it will be good experience for ear training.
this doesn't tell me anything
how the fuck do you do that?
the times I've tried writing down notes for a song i want to play when i go check them online later they're completely wrong

>>713767440
why are you arguing over the content of two sentences? you do not fit in, newfag nigger.

>>713767857
you sound extremely retarded for someone who claims he can read sheets.

>>713767904
op is the one losing his mind because he can't express himself correctly

>>713767819
i always learned to play by ear as a kid, i couldn't read sheet music until i was like 12 and had to learn to play stuff in church but i knew a fuckload of songs by then

>>713767926
shut up you retarded faggot the whole point of sheets is that even a fucking deaf person can play music looking at them
you are retarded

>>713767819
Real guitarist here.
Literally just look up ear training and how to do it, give it a few hours a week and within a month you’ll notice a huge difference.

>>713767993
All you're doing is arguing over the semantic details of two sentences and spamming "retard" over and over like your idiotic newfag epic reddit diss is going to cause him pain in real life. You do not fit in, newfag nigger.

>>713765181 (OP)
why would you spend 2k on a sax you cannot even play?

>>713768071
stop samefagging, op, you're not subtle

>>713767857
Maybe check them as you’re writing and not after. Play the recording constantly until your notes match

Daily reminder that drummers/percussionists are not musicians

>>713767857
Idk what to tell you, you just sound like you don't actually know how to read sheet music. Not knowing all the details to write in or not writing the rhythm properly are a couple of things that are okay, but you should at least be able to get the right pitches for the notes in order. If you can't get that part right I think you need to relearn how to read sheet music. You're on sax, did you check the clefs of the sheet music you're looking at?

>>713768157
You will always be a newfag nigger.

>>713768117
dude is clinically retarded

>>713768117
student models are cheap

>>713768218
and you will never know how to play a sax lmao

>>713768071
All of your posts reek of tryhard newfaggotry desu

>>713765181 (OP)
>Does anyone else on /v/ play an instrument?
A couple, yes, but the only one i'm really good at is bass.
>how do i play brass without sheet music
You don't unfortunately.

>>713765181 (OP)
i know how to play some guitar
i've been learning fiddle recently

your best friend is youtube. find people that play vidya music and learn from them. if you can't find a sax vidya player, then find an instrument with a similar range and try adapting that.

otherwise, try to figure out what notes are being used, they'll almost always fall on a subset that is a scale, and then fuck around with notes on the scale until it sounds right. a tiny drop of music theory goes a good ways

I'm picking up the piano, progress is slow but steady. I took a month break because new vidya came out (Void War), but surprisingly, I was able to jump back in right where I left off.
Skill level is baby tier, still can only """play""" with my right hand, but I've been working on sight reading Happy Birthday with chords. I don't really have a specific goal right now, but I just want to be able to play some low tempo classical pieces because they make me feel good when I listen to them.

>>713768215
Correcting myself: Alto sax uses a treble clef but transposes.

>>713765181 (OP)
Yo Theme of Laura from Silent Hill 2 is real easy if you want a guitar piece Vidya related that's easy to learn.

>>713768282
>newfag thinks everybody is the same person
>>713768319
>retard retard retard retard
>disingenuous bad faith vitriol
You will always be a 14-25 year old newfag nigger and never fit in.

>>713768385
learning an instrument has taught me a lot about learning in general
you really need to sleep between learning things. you can practice all day and go to bed sounding like shit no matter how hard you try, and then after sleeping and your brain rewiring itself, the next time you try you notice an improvement
learning anything is like that. it just takes practice and time.

>>713768346
Patrick Bartley/J-MUSIC Ensemble is the only good example of a vidya sax player I have off the top of my head

>>713768263
did I stutter
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/671161593/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/671345530/

>>713768171
i do that but it's still different from sheet music i look up online

>>713765181 (OP)
play baker street, faggot

>>713768778
Sometimes they change the key to fit the instrument’s range or comfortable keys. Also of course alto is in Eb, so the notes/key will appear different if you look at music for other instruments. When you play a C on a sax, the actual note is an Eb

>>713768596
there's metric shit tons of guitar tab of everything imaginable
if you can read tab, extract a melody, and adapt it to sax, then you have an endless supply of music worked out for you (ignoring all the work you'd have to do to use it!)

>>713768117
sax never goes down in price

>>713768969
you faggot you think i don't know that
you don't even know what the saxophone in the OP is

>>713766039
I have a trumpet, bongos, an accordion, and an electric kazoo somewhere. Let me dig them out, I can play a quartet of the damned for my bitch neighbor.

>>713766608
You got farther than 99% of us ever will. Appreciate your accomplishments.

>>713769019
Yes. Apparently you don’t. If you did, you wouldn’t have asked that question

>>713766039
I have a (wait for it) harmonica AND an ocarina

>>713769095
abloobloo poopoo pee pee nigger

>>713767461
I picked up violin again recently after not playing since middle school almost 20 years ago. I sucked for a couple weeks but I got back to a middle school level relatively fast. If I didn't learn it as a kid I bet it would have taken months just to get the basics like finger placement and tune

>>713769019
>pulls up to drive thru
>why do my burgers always have cheese on them?
>sir some burgers come with cheese. You can order them without it though
>you think I don’t know that faggot? give me a big mac

>>713766608
Being original on YouTube won't get you views unless you're already popular. It sucks but at least you can take pride in knowing you're superior to 90% of cover channels that do nothing but play the same FOTM songs as everybody else.

>>713769450
Yes

>>713766608
Post em then, I'm down to listen.

ok fellas it's jam time

>>713766608
Maybe you should try being less f`t, Schnabubula.

>>713770406
green hill zone

*toot*

>>713766729
squidward?

>>713767560
why?
it's a beautiful instrument

can someone do a cover of this classic banger
https://vocaroo.com/1cZi0wHGEwKb

>>713765181 (OP)
skin flute

>>713765181 (OP)
I don't play myself (well, I actually do a little bit) but I mostly compose stuff for guitar (bands, solo etc), orchestra, all that kind of stuff.
It's fun to larp as a """vidya composer""", helps me get away from all the gloom in everyday life

>>713765181 (OP)
>How the fuck do I learn to play vidya music on this thing without sheet music?
Transcribe it yourself or you're not actually a musician.

>>713768204
I wish I could play drums but I'm too unco. I can't even play Rock Band drums.

yeah
I started learning Besaid from the final fantasy X piano collection and I've been working on it for a couple months
whenever I get bored of vidya, I just go back to grinding my instruments, it's like a game with endless content

>>713765181 (OP)
I play the skin flute (the penis (I suck cock))

take the improv pill
https://voca.ro/1irpb1nwSEPK

>>713765181 (OP)
Sax is one of those instruments you have to get at least some proper guidance from a music teacher. That or just be black and autistic.

>>713776859
i already played in a small group for years
i just need sheet music
i am a computer

>>713775547
Being a disgusting faggot isn't a funny punchline.

>>713777663
there is no punchline

Just learn to read sheet music dude
You don't have to be good at it, it's easy anyways

Does anyone else not count at all?
I just use my leg as a metronome

>>713765181 (OP)
>owns an instrument

>can't read music

sorry bud, gate kept

just tap a rhythm, recall the song and vibe

>>713765426
Chord Progressions

>>713766315
Just out of curiosity, what do you think "playing/learning by ear" means?

>>713766494
>>713766608
You may as well post it since you've already given up on it. I like to think I have a good ear for music, so maybe some advice will give you that inspiration to make it all click. Post something already.

>>713772959
>t. musicologist seething his narcissistic avant garde 6/7 tempo album barely broke a thousand views while undertale slop covers reach millions

>>713765181 (OP)
i play the grandpas instrument ^-^

>>713779759
is it haunted?

>>713779967
Yes, and its curse is that the anon magically somehow always plays like shit despite "totally swearing" he practices often.

>>713779336
being able to hear a song and figure out the notes and fucking play it instead of having to find sheets

I can transcribe a melody but I'm lost when it comes to the other parts especially chords. Maybe I just need to work on learning more theory

>>713765181 (OP)
I used to play trumpet and drums. Scoliosis fucked my lung capacity to shit and I'm too physically broken to play drums anymore.

>>713780672
if you can transcribe the melody, collecting all the notes of the melody will form a scale (and maybe a few outliers here and there). building chords is a matter of picking a root note and then playing every other note on the scale for 3 or more notes. almost all scales are the major scale, or variations thereof by starting on a different note of the scale (i.e. major = WWHWWWH, minor = WHWWHWW)

>>713765181 (OP)
I'm trying to learn singing, but I'd want to know how to play some instruments too, but I can't juggle twenty things at once.

>>713781558
playing an instrument can help with developing your ear as you sing

>>713781602
Definitely.
All I would need is to buy an instrument, learn how to play it and then I can use it to learn how to sing better.

>>713780537
Wrong. Playing by ear is RECREATING the song as best as possible, whether through chords or notes. Since the sax is basically only a melodic instrument unless you do wacky shit, you're basically just stuck with notes. PLAYING the song is when you actually KNOW it well enough. Anything else is just learning/recreating. And there's no shame in learning, and none in taking it slow either. Go note by note, second by second if you need to. Practice doesn't make perfect, because perfection doesn't exist, but it makes skill that you can keep building up. Just start simple and then go from there. Why not try the Mario Bros NES stage 1 theme? It's pretty straight forward. Should be easy enough to get a basis.

>>713781558
Singing is pretty much the only music skill I'd suggest HAS to be learned through videos or a tutor to get better at because it involves manipulating your own body. It'd take forever to figure out, and most great singers were taught anyway. Nevermind the paradox of "who taught the first master to sing", but that's just how it has been for a while now. I'll tell you right now that you should get used to the idea of recording yourself so you can get used to it and its inevitable cringeness. I thought I was good at singing until I recorded myself and realized I was fucking up a lot. There's no guilt in realizing you need to work on your skills.

>>713781724
the few times I tried it I felt like I had the note right but then I would look it up and it was fucking wrong
I don't know why my ears don't work

maj/min7th chords are where its at

>>713781932
I've looked at a couple tutorials and they have helped, for example finding my vibrato.
Luckily I'm very familiar with recording my voice and completely fine listening it back, and only 95-99% has been cringe so far.

>>713782035
like anything, it's a skill that takes practice

>>713782160
Never touched a guitar in my life, but I hate going into music stores because the electric guitars are all so beautiful. I always want to buy them all.

>>713782192
how the fuck do you practice something so vague as tone matching

>>713782160
Which one is your favorite? I'm a maj7 enjoyer myself. I play picrel

>>713782991
>hear a tone
>play the tone
All you need to do is learn how to make the tone that you hear.
Recording it might help you.

>>713766039
I had a guitar somewhere but one of my oldman's ex wives stole it for her kids.

>>713783146
i also don't know how the fuck you isolate a tone in something crazy like sixteenth notes

>>713783261
You start with longer notes. Then when you get used to how to reproduce them you can move on to faster things.
It's like learning how to type. You first do it slow and then you get faster.

>>713782035
All a note is a note. It's nothing complicated. A C note is still a C note, regardless of instrument. To be honest, that's why I haven't learned a wind instrument, because the default tuning would fuck me up. God help me if I bothered to learn the clefs for them. Still, a note will always sound the same. If you really struggle with it, open up a website that has a virtual piano, match that note with the piano, IN the right octave. It should sound almost identical. Then once you figured that out, play that note on the piano on your sax. Bit of a long way, but you gotta start somewhere.

I play trombone. I've heard people tell me its one of the easier instruments to learn to play things by ear, but I hadn't really developed that skill. I did find most success playing by ear on the piano. I learned a lot of the megaman BN6 ost by ear on piano. musescore and youtube exists so I would just print out sheet music.

>>713783261
You do realize you can slow down recordings...right?

It really boils down to having certain music theory, perseverance, and curiosity. Think of approaching an existing song like a compiled software - you have raw sweat and tears to try out the first couple of notes to see where it lands. Then you use your music theory to see guess where it could be, chord/scale wise. Then you find several notes that work. That's progress. Then you hit a roadblock and try it again and again, where when you hit a wall you go back to 'raw exploring' mode.

>>713766608
...Sebastian?

>>713765181 (OP)
I can play the harmonica. fun instrument. want to learn the fiddle at some point

>>713783374
but that distorts the sound you baka

>>713783323
>A C note is still a C note, regardless of instrument
this is not true
instruments are tuned in different keys and you have to transpose to make it sound the same

>>713783412
i literally know no music theory
i wanted to do a class for it in high school but I didn't get in

>>713783573
You know what I meant, dumbass. The SOUND is still the same. And for someone who can't read or won't learn sheet music, it won't make a difference.
>>713783545
Then slow it down enough to where it sounds somewhat clear. All I'm hearing is a bunch of excuses. Do some of you even like music?

>>713783616
Music theory's a meme, just learn music good

>>713783517
>want to learn the fiddle at some point
funner instrument

>>713782160
Learning chords is bullshit.