i check the archives for v/vg/vrpg occasionally to keep track of updates and developments on certain games i'm interested in and i've noticed an intermittent pattern of obvious shilling and BLATANT FUCKING LIES - and on the topic of this thread in particular - ostranauts

for every shill, there has to be an anti-shill. that is what i'm here for today

this is an exact in verbatim quote, from vg thread 515010807, post 515584757, the 24th of february, 2025

"I don't know what it was like in the previous versions but the game seems to have quite a bit of content
>human-on-human combat
>main story missions
>randomly generated missions
>salvaging derelicts
>buying and flipping derelicts
>building your own ship
>hauling cargo between planets
>hiring crew and taking care of their needs
>ship racing
>building a base on an asteroid"

so i'm going to break down how this is all total bullshit and why this game sucks ass. do i hate ostranauts? no, i love it. but it's shit. and it will remain shit if faggots like this anon keep lying about it and tricking people into wasting money and time on it.

a line by line response is to follow:

>human-on-human combat
you have 2-4 options that all generally accomplish the same shit in a VERY JANKY "real time turn based" system that barely works. frankly combat is a total, non-functioning shit shoot where you can beat on somebody for several minutes while they're unconscious and they won't die, or, you can hit them once, break their ribs, and have them die instantly
>main story missions
there is ONE, ONE "main story mission" and it is an annoying fucking elementary-tier scavenger hunt with a quasi-avoidable trigger unless you interact with specific parts of the world. you get nothing legitimately valuable or game changing out of completing it, not completing it will slowly ruin your entire playthrough, and it just doesn't fit into the game's aesthetic. the climax of the arc is a CYOA that either kills you or you win, none of your skills matter, there is no need for game knowledge, and it's mostly dumb luck
>randomly generated missions
...that are mostly impossible or nonsensical. NPCs you have never met will randomly contact you asking you to spy on them for them - that makes no fucking sense right? yeah. other such "randomly generated missions" include: go talk to this person in the other room for me, go beat up this guy for me (see: combat), and other such trivialities with little to no reward
>salvaging derelicts
this is the only real selling point of the game and after you do it a few times it becomes droll as fuck
>buying and flipping derelicts
enjoy spending more time than a real life part time job doing this - the devs have gone through great lengths (at the expense of actually completing their game) to nerf the economic viability of this into the ground. way, way, way more effort than the pay off nets you

>building your own ship
fun, but extremely tedious for similar reasons as salvaging or flipping - the auto-build/auto-repair/auto-salvage UI is TERRIBLE, speeding up time creates massive cumulative time-loss as your character stands still between animations, and you'll for the most part have to manually lay everything you want out. piece. by. fucking. piece. this is to say nothing of the fact that the bigger your ship gets the laggier the game gets and the harder it becomes to dock with stations and other ships because of how the game handles the actual docking process - with your ship being a map, and docking with anything else combining those maps, forcing every ship design to have a huge proboscis in front, as the airlock and "map connection point" needs to be foremost on all ships.
this, of course, also locks you into specific design frameworks as anything not "facing" north relative to your screen orientation won't make sense in flight
>hauling cargo between planets
PLANET. SINGULAR. there's venus orbital station, and there's ganymed's azikiwe station where you start, among a few other hole-in-the-wall placeholders floating around azikiwe that all look the same and have no real content to be found
>hiring crew and taking care of their needs
barely functional and more trouble than it's worth, like the entire "social combat" system: nonsensical loops of saying "fuck cops" and asking about the weather over and over and over to raise pointless mood meters like "autonomy" and "intimacy" and "family"
>ship racing
give me a fucking break. i don't think a single person on earth has been able to do this yet in game and there's zero footage of it

>>713767641 (OP)
>for every shill, there has to be an anti-shill. that is what i'm here for today
So which one are you?

>building a base on an asteroid
you mean BUYING the only apartment? that you have to go all the way to venus orbital to buy - even though the apartment is in azikiwe? there is almost zero reason to do this. there's zero comfort items in the game, little to no decor (unless you count 5 pixel wide slivers on the wall that are actually posters, of which there are only a half dozen or so). you can't even make your fucking character SIT. SITTING is a contextual menu option like everything else and these retards made it a timed action, so your character will perform "sitting" for a couple seconds and then stand up again. you literally can't even make them sit and eat, sit and watch tv, nothing. the longest your character will ever sit is in the nav station (which you can't see them do because the nav screen is up) or when shitting (also a 5-10 second action)

you can put a shitter in, a sink (you have to take the water out of the "container" and "hold" it to wash), two forms of workout equipment, a bed, a fridge, a table (useless), chairs (useless), a couch (useless), a tv (most channels just piss your character off or trigger the gay ass "main quest"), and a boom box - oh right, and a 2x1 tile computer that can only play 1 game (or help continue the gay ass "main quest") - and like everything else the "game" is just watching your character stand there while a bar fills up

to further shit on this stupid ass forever-unfinished tranny game, let me draw some mirrors between what the shills say and how the game actually works

>sims-like
yes, your character needs to shit, eat, drink liquids, and sleep
BUT IT'S IN REAL TIME. so in order for these to even matter, the game resorts to the classic survival game trope of necessitating that you drink water and eat 5-6 times a day. enjoy the epic experience of watching your character fill a sleep bar for 45 real life minutes on 16x speed. oh, but the super-fast-forward, a boo boo. IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK 75% OF THE TIME. YOU SUPER FAST FORWARD SEVERAL HOURS AND YOUR CHARACTER IS DEAD, SHIT ON YOUR VESSEL IS EXPLODING OR RANDOMLY ROTTING INTO SCRAPS.

>social interactions, talking your way out of tickets with space cops, "deep crime system" (lmao somebody actually said this)
because of how the moods, abstract needs meters, and "social system" works, you will in fact actually be spamming the same few lines over and over and over again in a robotic, tedious attempt to push people into objective levels of certain moods the game REQUIRES you to meet in order to get them to agree to certain things

want to hire a crew member? okay, well don't be too generous with your pay offer, or else you'll raise their "autonomy" and "self-worth" too much and now they think they're too good for you - and they WON'T JOIN. i SHIT YOU NOT. you have to BELITTLE prospective employees and then in the next line COMPLIMENT them and then in the next line REDUCE YOUR WAGE OFFER and then in the next line INCREASE YOUR STARTING BONUS OFFER and keep doing this bizarre, schizophrenic hot-and-cold routine until they agree. oh - but sorry, you took too long, and now that NPC is dying of thirst or going hypoxic because they're still not smart enough to take their fucking helmets off, or they've run off to go play their 200th round of terminal that day

>>713767641 (OP)
Everyone knows who you are cause you write the same way each time. Stop capitalizing your words for extra emphasis so much. You're essentially a tripfag without the trip at this point.

>>713768669
and once you finally have that crewmember, get ready for the absolutely riveting chance to find out what it's like to be a special ed teaching assistant as you try to wrangle several complete, drooling retards on auto-pilot and keep them from spacing themselves, eating and drinking all your supplies, or going crazy because they haven't written to their family or watched TV in 5 minutes. does that sound fun to you?

and for a game with all these ridiculous, arbitrary character needs, there is almost no way to even deal with half of them in a realistic manner. there's "intimacy" and there's "family" and there's "altruism" - but you can't actually have a real romantic relationship with an NPC, you can't create a space-faring family, you can't randomly give money to people unless they first randomly walk up to you - a compete stranger - and ask for a couple hundred/thousand bucks.

and as you fail to fulfill these stupid fucking moods and you enter a mental death spiral your character will literally start wresting control from you and running off to go do whatever the fuck they want, usually to their detriment and usually in the middle of something much more important. we're not talking "haha funny dwarf fort man stealing socks" here either, it's fucking ANNOYING. it's a rimworld mental break but with no defined start or end point, no catharsis, and no preventive measures other than endlessly sandbagging yourself and manually queueing up the same two actions over and over again, "write home to family" and "check social media"

have i convinced any prospective buyers to hold off on this dogshit early access trannyware yet? or do i need to continue? i can write up a whole post on things this game desperately needs yet will never get

>>713768784
wow, they should hire YOU to be mister SUPER detective at the CIA. no fucking shit it's ME you actual RETARD, i made this thread to post all these things. where in the FUCK did you get the idea i was trying to hide that? STOP posting so much. you're essentially a DUMB ASS NIGGER without the basketball skills at this point.

i'll keep this thread up until it dies just in case anybody has any actual questions or wants to discuss the game and its many, many flaws. i'd say for a thread solely meant for posterity and archival, that only having 2 brain dead nigger faggots posting useless dog shit in it isn't bad - though it was probably the same brain dead nigger faggot posting twice in a desperate attempt to finally get a (you). anyways, maybe if fedor comes back on here to shill he'll see this one day and fix his terrible game

fuck you fedor, get rid of all those useless women and furries on your dev team and add some real content

This game was doomed the moment Kitfox came on as their publisher. They have a track record of doing this, and Fedor is himself a certified numale. I think a lot of the good will for the game comes from major rose tinted glasses for NEOscav but even that game was unfinished shit and is most people won't touch it without the mods that extensively improve upon its lack of content.

>>713770129
if anything ostranauts has actually gone backwards in terms of content - at least fucking neo scavenger had crafting and several story lines large and small and a coherent system for combat. they tried to translate over the tile-based inventory and that DOES NOT work in a 3d game where you've got an entire ships worth of unlabeled containers with backpacks that have tool boxes that have bags inside of them, each, of course, requiring you to go through several menu options and an annoying little animation each as you open them and bring up another layer of inventory until your entire screen is this apocryphal, ugly ass mess of non-descript storage spaces - some of them becoming un-interactable at random and forcing you to close everything and start over

>>713768784
>Stop capitalizing your words for extra emphasis
i like it
its easier for my Brain

based thread
have a bump

>>713767890
>>hiring crew and taking care of their needs
>barely functional and more trouble than it's worth, like the entire "social combat" system: nonsensical loops of saying "fuck cops" and asking about the weather over and over and over to raise pointless mood meters like "autonomy" and "intimacy" and "family"
To be fair to this indie shitter, this is literally all games with this system.

>>713771225
thanks anon, for you, and anyone else interested in what this game could be, let me lay out a list of OBVIOUS SHIT this game should already have or should absolutely have coming in the pipe - but won't for whatever arbitrary reasons these lazy cunts can come up with

>ACTUAL relationships
it's supposed to be a sim, right? it's supposed to have "the sims" elements, so where's the fucking? i'm not being facetious either - why is 3rd base in this reality "touch arm"?

>male and female tags
i wonder why, for a game that goes through painful lengths to discretely identify everything else with hard-coded adjectives and descriptors, that it doesn't define MALE and FEMALE? this just follows in line with the previous point really. all the characters in this game apparently have no genitalia and all the facial features are just blended in a cheap, flashgame-like list on the character creator

without defining male or female, there's no real romantic relationships because pretty much every character, young or old, male or female, black or white, will at some point start awkwardly flirting with you. all characters share the same skinny-fat body model. the FACES contort into horrific, over exaggerated expressions when they get a mite too hungry, cold, tired, or over burdened from high g-forces. EVERYBODY IS FUCKING HIDEOUS.

i've seen the same shills that say "le deep social interaction system" turn around almost in the same post and say none of this shit matters because that's not "what the game is about" - but then why are all these half baked, totally retarded vestigial systems in there then? if that was the case, there wouldn't even be social interaction options at all, there wouldn't be "moods" or non-physical "needs" to worry about.

anyways

>>713771827
You sound like me when I tried out Kenshi.

>>713771827
>hydroponics
hello? this is like fucking astronaut shit 101. plants make oxygen. plants remove carbon dioxide. plants can grow food. they're doing it right now up on the ISS in REAL LIFE. i've seen some redditors even go so far as to smugly declare this game is "too realistic" to have hydroponics - even though the "lit planter" object in the game apparently has the code framework already laid out to produce small amounts of oxygen

of course, you can't actually GET the "lit planter" or any planter-like object. there is none to salvage on any of the ships, and even though you can literally strip the fucking walls off the stations and send everyone inside to hell the "lit planter" is the one thing you can't interact with in any way

>passenger transport
in the ostranauts wiki and in the game, putting certain items into an enclosed room (walls, floor, functioning and powered airlock, livable atmosphere) turns it into a specialized room the game recognizes - which raises the value of a ship when selling or buying it.

THEY HAVE A PASSENGER ROOM. THEY HAVE PASSENGER SEATS. THEY HAVE A PASSENGER SYSTEM - FOR YOU. BUT YOU, THE PLAYER, CANNOT FERRY PASSENGERS. THERE IS ZERO OFFICIAL WORD ON THIS.

>station building
you CAN own multiple ships, but the game will wig out and ass fuck you if you try to create something akin to a free floating station in space, as the game only recognizes such things as a vessel - so even with a transponder you're looking at the risk of one of the space cops flying thousands of kilometers out to ram into your empty "station" to inspect it. i know because i've tried to do this - of course, i don't know why, because like i said in regards to the apartment you can buy, THERE'S NOTHING TO DO

>>713772315
>crafting and "research"
i don't know what is needed here or how to do it, exactly, but i know this game desperately needs it. i have some spitball ideas but as of now and likely into this game's end stage product lifecycle (IE it dying and fading into obscurity when everyone gets tired of it) there is NO reason to have anything other than a huge box-ship for holding garbage to sell, holding your own absolute-minimum-requirement life support and power (and maybe your torch drive machinery), and your stock standard shitter/bed closet sized space... if you even want to bother going through the effort of having "spaces" at all and not just making everything easily accessible in one space - as for all the pointless abstractions your character whines about they possess no sense of privacy, creature comforts, or cleanliness or order of their space

the game desperately needs shit to work toward, new technologies to discover/unlock, things to build, upgrades to make, etc

>an actually functional build mode
build mode is just dog shit. it's like trying to draw with a pen first of all, as deleting erroneous placements means selecting it and literally hitting the delete key on your keyboard - there's no undo, there's no symmetry mode, there's no copy and paste, and there's no way to put your ship into the market or start the game with it unless you want to fuck with the guts of the game's code - it doesn't even fucking spawn your placeholder character INSIDE OF THE SHIP when you test it and half the time you'll just die before you can even get inside of it, i shit you not

i could go on and on but i think you all get some idea of what i'm getting at. this game is meat and potatoes but the meat has been sitting out past USDA standard refrigeration time and the potatoes are dollar store instant mash

>>713771561
i agree, but for such an ambitious project already they should have kept this for last. to make a game that's supposed to be inspired by shows like the expanse, and then have fucking "ship combat" and "fire simulation" come literal years after "terrible and barely functional conversation loops" is an abysmal sign of their work priorities

this is also obvious, considering most of their recent additions and plans have unironically come from fucking reddit and discord polls. IMAGINE

>>713771924
for what kenshi is, it's at least coherent and functional. i never played kenshi expecting deep social mechanics, but it still has complicated real-time sims regarding faction and "war party" movements, raids, and region based environmental threats for building a colony. you can even set up shops inside towns after purchasing property. you can have whole armies of janissary soldiers on separate control tabs. THAT is a game that had a mission objective and i think met it well - whereas ostranauts is promising you the world and handing you a ball of polished shit

Thanks OP. I will remove it from my wishlist. It looked like it was in dev hell. Thanks for confirming it

>>713772315
>of course, you can't actually GET the "lit planter" or any planter-like object.

also, before anyone tries to pull some stupid fucking gotcha on me - i KNOW you can get the "meat planter" but that is useless, ugly, and requires you to go through the aids "main quest" to get it. what was that about the fucking game being too realistic again? with the magic goat man and the thermodynamic law breaking, magically multiplying, hostile, artificial meat?

i guess in the decades humanity has been in space in the neoscav/ostranauts lore, they've forgotten how to grow plants in a bucket of dirt? they've forgotten how to make a shower? they've forgotten how to fish farm? but wait, there's still kelp, plant based food products and real shrimp dishes to buy, so they MUST be doing it SOMEWHERE. my character is a MILLIONAIRE - WHY CAN I NOT FUCKING DO IT?

>>713773262
20 dollars well saved

>>713767641 (OP)
why did these niggers steal the neo scavenger logo

and my last non-reply post, just for the sake of credibility; here is a screenshot from my own +100 hour playthrough. yes the last name is retarded, i wanted to a captain janeway-esque name and i was high and drunk. probably should have just named him zack janeway

as you can see from the sheer, inordinate size of my vessel i put a lot of fucking work, time, and planning into it. it was loosely modeled off the ebon hawk but around the time of this screenshot i was COMPLETELY burnt out. and quit shortly after hitting several million, getting my torch drive set up, buying the apartment, etc - and ultimately being extremely dissatisfied with my experience. by this point in the save the game was also starting to fall apart at the seams and weird shit with the flying, docking, NPC spawn rates, space cop behavior, so on, were all forcing me to reload saves

every last tile and object you see i had to personally collect - the little airlock with the candy-striped door and the rectangle immediately below it were the original bones of my starting ship. i'll post a second picture in a different viewmap mode so you can get a better look at the shape and size.

you can see just how tiny my little guy is in the top right. it's a fucking massive ship. yes i'm bragging

>>713774015

>>713773960
it's made by blue bottle games, the same guy, fedor, who made neo scavenger. they're even supposed to be set in the same universe - neo scavenger on the ground of the cursed earth and ostranauts out in the hyper-capitalist, nigerian (not kidding) solar system beyond it

>>713774015
Wait a minute, you're crying about an early access game? And one you spent 100+ hours in?
Alright, anon... This is just weird. Stop playing, let alone paying for, EAslop

>>713774153
well he fucked up then, I feel bad for him

>>713774153
those extra bits on top are some derelict i was parked with, by the way, not part of the ship

the only real way to actually "build your ship" in this game is to personally find and hand-pick derelicts with the style of superstructure you like (there are several "brands" with different weights and looks to them, leading most people to just vie for the lightest type) and then go through the arduous, several hours in real life process of uninstalling the pieces, dragging them to your ship, then reinstalling them wherever you want to go

some vendors sell ship pieces but they are random and at most will only sell a dozen of the same kind of floor or wall at a time, and it takes HOURS in game if not a whole day for the supply to restock - and, since there are so many different kinds, GOOD FUCKING LUCK ever getting it to roll back to the brand you're looking for.

>>713774184
i didn't pay for this game and i haven't played it in over a year because i did all there was to do, and really in all senses of the word "beat" it

i'm making this thread now because people are actively shilling for it and lying about what content it has - if you read the OP and weren't a retard you'd have figured that

and the things i'm even talking about to begin with are all fundamental issues with the design that should have never been a problem at all. this game is going to shit itself and die before completion because they're focusing on the wrong things and aren't just doing that but are being obstinate about doing that

and yes, before you try to move the goal posts, i've already gone through every single channel of communication and relayed all these things professionally, cordially, and concisely to the devs. they don't give a fuck, so this thread is for me to vent and go fully nuclear in. my hopes are that i cost them several dozen potential customers for their retardation

>>713774617
>and yes, before you try to move the goal posts, i've already gone through every single channel of communication and relayed all these things professionally, cordially, and concisely to the devs. they don't give a fuck, so this thread is for me to vent and go fully nuclear in. my hopes are that i cost them several dozen potential customers for their retardation
Cringely semi-based

Based anon.

Character creation for this game is dogshit, and thousands of people have said this, and the dev continues to ignore them. Seems like a losing strategy

>>713774790
any collective work, be it video games, movies, tv shows, or some sort of independent media project like the SCP foundation NEEDS some sort of autistic, obsessive headcase that cares more than everybody else - if you don't have that passionate loser around to identify soul and authenticity, and to aggressively stand guard against shitty, time wasting ideas, then it will fall apart sooner or later; or like most things, it will never get off the ground to begin with and you'll just have a shit product

it's not like there's anything else worth giving a shit about. this would be my dream game if it wasn't so bad - it's why i put so many hours in. believe me, if it was where it should be, i'd have THOUSANDS of hours in it. i don't even want to imagine the collective wasted human life on unrepentant dogshit like LOL or dota or whatever the fuck, and this game actually deserves that time and that effort because it is GOOD. it's just SHIT. it is the epitome of "amazing concept, horrible execution"

>>713767641 (OP)
>no simple but enjoyable gameplay loop like NeoScavanger
>ultra autism ship management, instead of focusing on the cool parts of space travel, you focus on the incredibly boring logistics
>pronouns selector
I bounced off it hard and wasn't sure if I should give it another go. Thanks for reminding me why it sucks and I shouldn't bother.

>>713774991
mentioning anything remotely close to character creation or the character aesthetics triggers the tranny defense force on reddit, the steam forums, the discord, etc - this is pretty much the only place you can even discuss that half of the game's primary issues. they just won't even allow it at this point. as per usual the only way for this freak shit id-pol faggotry to survive is mass, totalitarian censorship

>>713775794
Yeah i noticed it was all tranny faggots and the mentally deranged who "liked" the character creation.

>>713769242
>YOU SUPER CIA ME RETARD FUCK STOP DUMB ASS NIGGER
what did he mean by this?