Thread 713778748

Yet to be refuted

You don't deserve to be alive. Total human genocide now.
Also, he didn't say that.

Nothing more pathetic than trannies using a game they did not write as a personal political soapbox.

>>713778748 (OP)
Not if the fine scales by personal finances.

>>713778748 (OP)
the game sucks so it got refuted by the quality of the author's character

>>713778748 (OP)
Fines are needed to as some crimes would be too hard to punish with jail time.
Yeah, by default we don't deserve to live, is called survival of the fittest for a reason.
Last point piggies back from the last one so same answer for that one.

>>713778748 (OP)
Typical socialist drivel. You are free to go out and hunt/gather/farm your own food in the forest, nobody is saying you don't deserve to be alive.

>>713778905
>commies
>ever accomplishing anything

>>713778905
$2000 fine for poaching

>we don't deserve to live
this except unironically
for all the humanistic wankery, man still bleeds to survive, and when not concerned with survival, he tries to stave off boredom
there is no intrinsic fundamental value in life, only all-consuming fear of death

>>713778748 (OP)
Death to poorfags. All heil richfags.

What if the fine is based on the percentage of the criminal's assets value?

>>713779074
>there is no intrinsic fundamental value in life, only all-consuming fear of death
So why don't you kys?

>>713778748 (OP)
>Punishment is proportional to the damage caused. Yes, you should be worried if a minor fine breaks your wallet because your contribution to the society are minor.
>No one does. The universe doesn't give a shit.
>Yes.

>>713778748 (OP)
why tf did i think this was a 2d james sunderland sprite?

>>713779162
never said i wasn't afraid

Why are commies so retarded?

>>713778748 (OP)
only poor people commit crimes

>>713778748 (OP)
Hard hitting lines desu. All the response here will be edgelord garbage.

>>713778748 (OP)
>1st one
You can have scaling fines based on wealth
>2nd one
yes, this is human exceptionalism. Every other living thing is in a struggle for survival and has to work in order to live. We don't have to due to the hard work and good decisions made by the generations before us. We only have this because as a collective people on average earn more than they need and give away the excess. If this ever stops being that way the workers are not going to be generous anymore.
>3rd one
Freedom is not an absolute. It's a contextual idea. Freedom from government is possible. Freedom from the laws of thermodynamics isn't.

>>713778748 (OP)
1. That only applies if the law is flexible and inconsistent to people of different social status. In theory Thirdie Mcsubhuman should get a fine for drunk driving and so should Robert Downey Jr. If the system is fair that is.
2. This is too retarded to even address sounds like something reddit would parrot to sound intellectual.
3. Theres food everywhere. You aren't entitled to it based on quality or availability. Nothings stopping a homeless guy from killing pigeons and rats and smoking them up.

>>713779074
average AIjeet btw

>>713778748 (OP)
1. Penalty for a crime is a fine.

Yes, that's how tort law, civil courts are. You're only entitled to damages from the infraction. It doesn't make sense to jail a guy for 30 days for denting your bumper, when the cost of the damages is $500 and they can just pay it off.

2. "Earning a living" doesn't imply you "don't deserve to be alive". Classic retarded commie platitude. The fact is that to live, you need feed, shelter, etc. and that requires WORK to produce. You have to sustain yourself, or you're a parasite, which for a totally capable adult, is inexcusable.

3. Yes, you are free to starve. If you're also free politically, then there's nothing inhibiting you from pursuing work or food. IE you're free.

>>713778748 (OP)
he based and not ONE person on /v/ can refute him

>>713778905
Sorry but those seeds you have are registered and trademarked do you can't grow any food with that, also it's a fine if you decided to hunt without a permit and everything is an endangered species

>>713778748 (OP)
>Implies that by default we don't deserve to be alive
Correct, you must provide ressource in exchange of getting other ressource so you can live
Work for money, money for food and shelter

>>713779828
This was not fucking enough for how much damage their horseshit did.

>>713778748 (OP)
There must be punishment for lawbreakers, if you don't want to pay a fine then you can choose to go to jail.
You aren't entitled to anything, not even living.
Grow your own food in your own land away from any government, enjoy the wildlife.

>>713779832
You joke but most fruit you can buy have have been genetically modified so the seeds are sterile and can't be used to grow another tree

>>713778905
>You are free to go out and hunt/gather/farm your own food in the forest
Why would you make up such nonsense?

>>713779576
Good job on proving the second point

>>713778748 (OP)
>we don't deserve to be alive
I would say we don't deserve anything, every day should be a blessing. Some don't even see their 1st birthday. Despite all of our issues we are still granted the opportunity by the Lord to experience life.

>>713778934
Who were the first to reach space?
Who were the first to land in another planet?

>>713778905
poaching was a literal death sentence
you also need a hunting licence in modern times

>>713779903
>Correct, you must provide ressource in exchange of getting other ressource so you can live
>Work for money, money for food and shelter
But then how other man get resource?
>he worked for it to get it from another man
And how did first man get resource?

>>713780334
German scientists.

>>713780358
>poaching was a literal death sentence
The fact that theres STILL saharan Africans who eat zebra and kudu with spears with 0 issues is proof you have no excuse. You guys keep talking about being conan the barbarian level gigachads from your animekinokinos nows your chance. Unless you're less ineffectual and manly than some nigger thousands of miles away.

>>713778748 (OP)

1: Is the fine relative to income? If its a flat rate then yes the fine becomes more meaningful the less money you have.

2: If you're not earning a living for yourself then someone else must earn a living for you. By taking the fruits of their labor you have enslaved them.

3: See 2. If you're taking food or any other resource from someone else against their will then you have enslaved them.

>>713780431
Post them.

>>713780331
shalom

>>713780431
Who were defeated by commies

>>713780619
What does that have to do with poaching? Do you not know what it is? It's not the animals that kill you. Poaching was a crime with a death sentence. That's it.

>>713780431
He was german at heart.

>>713778748 (OP)
Life itself is a fight for survival, food is not something that will magically appear before you. Modern luxury had created a grand delusion that masks the fact that most of human history has been a brutal fight to make it to the next day and survive winter. People take their lives for granted and bitch about how hard things are.

>>713778934
>>713780334
Who were the first to eliminate mother-child HIV transmission?

>>713778748 (OP)
There nothing to refute because Wiegraf didn't say any of this.

>>713778748 (OP)
this isn't actual dialogue from the game, how's that for refutation you commie fuck

>>713778748 (OP)
There's nothing to refute, all of these are true. Your mistake is assuming that these are bad things (they're not).

>>713778905
>You are free to go out and hunt/gather/farm your own food in the forest
you were until someone came along and owned that forest

the founders understood the way of it.
if government adds restrictions for the supposed benefit of society, that government now becomes responsible for filling any gaps those restrictions now caused. if i am not allowed to just go and use any unoccupied land to build a house, plant some crops, etc, then alternatives need to be assured me

>>713779167
>your contribution to the society are minor.
lmao

>>713778748 (OP)
if you roll the language back to uncivilized times, "earning a living" functionally becomes "hunting for food".
"Deserving" to be alive is only a moral judgement invented by people putting too much thought into it. You either are alive, or you're not; you either make active efforts to continue living, or you wait for death to come.
Ergo, if you aren't somehow working to prolong your life, you're sitting back waiting for death. It's quite 1/0 and morality like "deserving" has no part in it.

what game is this

>>713781373
First Reality Improvisation

>>713778748 (OP)
>we don't deserve to be alive
not really, we're full already. Work on or fuck off.

>>713779576
Your ability to secure your basic hierarchy of needs impacts your ability to fund yourself, since you can't say no to disadvantageous jobs or deals if there is no current alternative.
There are measures that companies can take to starve out smaller entities, it's basically the de facto process for IP law litigation.
>>713780631
> If you're not earning a living for yourself then someone else must earn a living for you. By taking the fruits of their labor you have enslaved them.
Landlords, holding companies, etc.

>>713781373
Last isekai strategy

>>713778748 (OP)
l i t t l e m o n e y

>>713778748 (OP)
The fact that such things could never be included in a modern vidya is both proof of the deterioration of dev intellect and also that the culture war is to distract from class war

>>713778905
No you aren't. That forest is not yours and you own neither the game nor the foliage to forage from. If detected the state will apprehend and imprison you for trespassing on private property.

>>713781874
faggotry like that gets put into games by hack writers all the time what the fuck are you talking about lmao

>>713779101
But Zeon were the poorfags.

>>713778934
They're really good at making every culture they touch fucking lame. And ethnic cleansings.

>>713779167
You are not the universe. If all you do is rob and defraud your fellow man and then hide behind platitudes when confronted, a punishment is to be exacted.

>>713782304
They were also space traitors.

hate commies so much

>>713778748 (OP)
Top is 100% correct.
Bottom one is commie drivel, food doesn't magically appear, people have to work to produce it, you aren't entitled to the fruit of someone else's labor just because you're alive.
If you are able to work but refuse to, you deserve to starve to death.

No, the term 'a living' does not mean being alive in particular
That 'thought' is on par with 'no human being is illegal'

>>713778748 (OP)
that's a fake quote btw, the writer said he had nothing to do with it

>>713782504
>Top is 100% correct
It isn't, but fines should be adjusted to the offenders wealth.

>>713778748 (OP)
these lines arent in the game

>>713780416
Self-employment.

>>713778905
>You are free to go out and hunt/gather/farm your own food in the forest
You literally aren't lmao. The majority of countries in some way or another forbid freely hunting/gathering, let alone actually living on the land. Why the fuck would shekelstein allow people to build their own communities and villages in the forest? All that land belongs to them and so too are its resources.

>>713782451
Not first. Also the moon is not a planet, back to school.

>>713783101
Who cares if its illegal? You'll probably never get caught in the wild, so it doesn't matter.

>>713778748 (OP)
>WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS
*destroys your world so he can continue living a gomfy lower-middle class life*
nothing personnel kid

>>713778748 (OP)
>top
This is true
>middle
Just semantics. In the first place throughout all of history if someone isn’t working than either they themselves or someone else will suffer
>bottom
Societal freedom does not include freedom from consequences. Just as you are jailed for committing a crime, haphazard use of money will also lead to economic consequences.

>>713778748 (OP)
wiegraf never said that

>>713782360
>fellow men
Just because you exist near me, doesn't mean there's some kinship going on.

>>713782289
Yeah but its invariably always culture/race shit instead of class shit like this.
Or if its class its faggotry like Outer Worlds

>>713778748 (OP)
>Refuted by reality

>>713783845
its all the same faggotry as it has the same roots and dogshit surface level muh class muh capitalism whining is not uncommon at all.

>>713778748 (OP)
Lenin: He who does not work, shall not eat
>So you're saying we have freedom to starve, huh?

>>713778869
>Have 1000 dollars
>Lose 90%
>Can barely survive a month
>Have a billion dollars
>Lose 90%
>Can still live comfortably for the rest of your life
I don't like calling people slurs but you are making it very difficult for me

>>713784898
That would still be a catastrophic loss enough to put any richfag from breaking whatever law this fine is about

Sucks to be you I guess haha

Those dialogues are as fake as OP's "vagina".

>>713784941
That's true for the guy with 1000 dollars as well. In fact he'd be more hard pressed to not break the law because their livelihood depends on it.

>>713778748 (OP)
#1: fact
#2: correct, and only a narcissist would think otherwise. in a community, you can earn what is given to you instead of just leeching. alone, you have to earn your daily survival off of the land. life is not the default. one way or another, your survival is only earned. the default is death. life is the exception.
#3 nonsensical semantic garbage. refer to #2 for survival and figure out your shit from there.