https://steamcommunity.com/games/2680010/announcements/detail/517464419177857122

and this is why no one plays this shitty game.

>>713856918 (OP)
Making you play the game to get a higher difficulty unlocked is pure cancer.

Tranny game

>>713856918 (OP)
Viper still filtering people?

>>713856918 (OP)
this is proof that no matter how a dev tries to do multiple tier difficulties it always comes to the detriment of the player.
Normal is now the old easy mode, everyone that plays after this update that clicks normal because they think its the intended experience are unknowingly playing the easy mode.
you have to go out of your way to play the intended difficulty because its not labeled as such anymore.

>>713856918 (OP)
Where is my "Pretend You Won" button, you hack

>>713858625
This.
Multiple difficulties are bad game design.
Give us ONE intended difficulty. Also do like 2 - 3 ultra hard optional post game bosses that are not meant to be killed by EVERY PLAYER

>>713856918 (OP)
And that's why this game is shit and dead.
People aren't playing your game because its too hard. They don't play it because it's not interesting

>>713856982
>>713857076
>>713857262
>>713857476
>>713858625
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>>713860097
there's easier modes as well as optional harder modes for people that want a challenge
more accessibility is better for everyone, what's so hard to understand about that?

>>713858625
I really hate this almost difficulty inflation thing happening. Normal should be the intended difficulty and original difficulty ALWAYS. Anything less should be 'you didn't beat the game tier' and anything more should be the modes you unlock after beating the game and are used to all the systems.

>>713860097
Khazan isn't even that hard though?

>>713856918 (OP)
>"Hardcore" is a special difficulty that unlocks after completing the first playthrough on "Challenge"
Stop fucking doing this shit
Why do gamedevs keep thinking people want to play their game on it's entirety once before they can actually play it on the highest difficulty?

>>713861057
How about you don't play a video game if you don't want to play a video game? How about video games don't need to be accessible unless they're for children? What's so hard to understand about that?

>>713861535
Because it's clear that mode is designed for you to know how the systems work? Don't want idiots like you thinking they're good enough to clear that mode on their first playthrough.

>>713857076
i mean you didnt realy beat a game unless you finish it on every dificulty settings

>>713858625
This,let me enoy the original and put the easy mode on EASY please

>>713861057
More modes = playtesting is split between the modes = each mode gets less attention from devs= game is less fun regardless of chosen difficulty

>>713862020
Exactly. It's not just about having options, it's about those options actually being worth a damn. When the devs spread themselves thin across five difficulty tiers, none of them feel properly tuned. You get one mode that’s a braindead slog, another that spikes out of nowhere, and maybe one decent middle ground if you're lucky. Focus on one solid experience, polish the hell out of it, and let the modders make masochist or baby modes if people really want them.

>>713858625
This. I'm glad that it was Lies of P that tried this experiment and failed. Not out of malice or anything, it just might as well have been LoP. Hopefully FromSoft sticks to their principles about wanting everyone to engage with the same experience and learn how to determine difficulty using what's within the game itself.

>>713864050
Does help that if I truly do want a harder experience there's a modding community that can give it to me probably better than they would.

>>713864907
I'm not buying a poorly designed game because a mod might make it better.

>>713865247
Adding more difficulty levels MAKES it poorly designed.

>>713861658
>Don't want idiots like you thinking they're good enough to clear that mode on their first playthrough.
Why not? Let them fuck themselves over, it makes no difference to anyone else. Tons of popular games have their most bullshit difficulties unlocked from the beginning.

>>713865547
Yes, that's exactly what I implied.

>>713858625
>Normal is now the old easy mode, everyone that plays after this update that clicks normal because they think its the intended experience are unknowingly playing the easy mode.
Used to have the opposite problem back in the day.

>>713866158
It's the devs messing up with the code on picrel

>713856918
>Take notes, Hidetaka Miyazaki
Kill yourself, Anonymous Post ID 713856918.

>>713866337
There was other japanese games that made normal hard deliberately, can't remember which atm, this was just the one example I remembered even if it wasn't intentional.

>>713861057
>more accessibility is better for everyone
No, it isn't
Fuck off.

is this game good or nah

>>713868729
It's fine, it's Nioh with Sekiro parrying and severely constrained weapon types. It's not got the breadth of Nioh, but the bossfights seem good enough to be diverting.

>different camera angle is locked behind higher difficulty
This is the part I don't get. Is the new camera deliberately shitty to make it harder to see the enemies, or what?

>>713861535
Because an awful lot of retards default to the hardest difficulty, get roadblocked by a boss and drop the game.

I've seen that play out multiple times from one of my friends. He always plays on the hardest difficulty, and he always gives up when it gets too hard. And if you go into any "Why did you drop the last game you dropped?" threads, it's one of the biggest contenders.

>>713861057
More accessability is better for retarded faggots who dont play video games

>>713856918 (OP)
lmao
damage control

Accessibility and inclusion are bad for hobbies. Shrimple as. Open borders of any kind are always bad for the people who were there first.

Korea<<<<<<<<<Japan

>>713861057
''1337 gammerz'' like >>713861580 or >>713868212 or >>713871728 with their MAD GAMER SKILLZZZ are worried that plebs will start posting 'I cleared that ultra hard KHAZAN game like a REAL GAMER(TM) watch me roar'.
They are pissing themselves that their gamer cred is losing value fast and they can't do anything about it.
Pretty pathetic when you think about it

>>713872925
git gud

>>713872925
No, thats not it, i dont give a fuck about "gamer cred" i just want normies to feel alienated in any way possible. Popularity is a stepping stone to censorship and loss of soul. I want the stuff i like to be niche, cult, or borderline unknown, that may not always be great for the artist but it is almost alwsys better for the art.

>>713861776
Okay, but who cares

>>713856918 (OP)
Art will never have difficulty settings

>>713861057
There are no 'optional harder modes' though.
'challenge' is just the old normal
and 'hardcore' is just the old 'hard' but now you have to beat the game on piss-easy normal mode first.

people against difficulties are always the biggest losers, arguing that these modes are bad because games should be made for only good players
the irony being that none of these people are good and the base difficulty is not even hard and so the games desperately need a hardmode.
and yet these retards fight against that under the illusion that their so-called 'unified difficulty' actually means anything at all.
never seen a good player ever use this line of reasoning

>>713873549
There was no 'hard' mode before though. Hardcore got added later for people who wanted more of a challenge

>>713856918 (OP)
This is a great way for me to never buy your game.
They are only doing this because it was confirmed the game didn't meet their sales target because they fell for the only thing people care about is aggressive bosses so they filtered even the casual Souls fans as this is a more recent Souls thing.
This is a marketing stunt and they are ruining the integrity of the game to sell more copies

>>713867923
it's a capcom thing. used to be even more common in the NES/SNES days to battle rentals
>RE1 has no autoaim, less ribbons, more enemy health&damage
>DMC1 reduced Dante damage and increased enemy damage
>MH1 increased mon health, reduced elemental damage

Saw the Iron Pineapple video about new Souls likes and he calls Nioh 2 and 3 hard but he had a massive fucking bitch fit in another video that people insinuated that Khazan was hard or bosses went on too long.
Nigger is on crack

Could have saved a lot of words and just said "Our game is slop. Eat up pigs."

>>713877153
He said in his review of the game that it was hard though. And regarding boss HP, he said they are on the longer side (in my experience 3-5min is about the average) but they aren't really that tanky and if you're taking 10 minutes or something on a single attempt then you're probably just shit, which is true.

>>713877927
well no other game had to go to the extent of changing the names of difficulties and he sounded mad people weren't playing the game right which he never did for other games.
Game sucks

>>713878139
It's a good game though

>>713878184
clearly it isn't considering the game failed to meet sales goals and the devs admit people would rather just quit the game than change to easy.

>>713868729
It's okay, watch uberhaxornova play it while he's talking to a retarded AI and go play stranger of paradise instead

>>713877927
Part of the perception problem with Khazan is that your stats and skills are such shit for the first three or four bosses that the tempo of the fights are all awful. You spend so much time waiting for stamina to recover, you're stingy with Estus because you haven't gotten the extra charges, and you have no or poor dumps for your spirit. Trash mobs have similar problems around this time too. By the time you hit Rangkus/Maluca/Elamein, the tempo starts picking up and the combat actually feels much better.

>>713878295
I think they may have had unrealistic sales expectations based on the popularity of DFO in Asia. That said, sales are not a metric of quality.

>>713878621
they are still willing to lie to their customers by changing the names of the difficulty options just so they can make more money.

>>713878734
That's not lying to customers. If anything it's like someone else said about the devs not having that much integrity or care about the real vision for their game. And even still, I'd say it's a good game despite that.

>>713856918 (OP)
>But we will also nerf Viper and Maluca on ALL difficulties. Again.
>Anyway, how about a new body type (F)? Cutscenes and voice are not included btw
someone got paid for this

>>713879608
Did they nerf Maluca? I know Viper got that exhaustion duration increase, which was unnecessary IMO but not that huge.

>>713881638
no, i fucked up, it's Yetuga, Blade Phantom, and Viper, they got this exhaustion duration increase
>captcha: TTGAY

>>713882502
Viper and Yetuga I don't really get, I guess that was just because they were early bosses, but honestly I always thought Blade Phantom's exhaustion was too short. You could barely get a couple hits on him before you had to use a brutal attack

Easier game difficulties then intended are just cheat codes, without calling them cheat codes.

>>713883329
>hesRetarded

>>713861535
This. For me it completely ruined Stellar Blade because it forces u to normal mode on 1st playthrough. The way they give u dopamine hits (story beats, epic scenes, grand moments etc) without having u put in any effort from killing the enemies or bosses destroys the game because it plays exactly like some cinematic movieslop. The game was a fucking joke anyway, there are 94 bonfires total in some of the smallest levels I have ever seen, so u can imagine how it goes - kill 3 enemies and u find a new bonfire, despite the character having access to 8 estus flasks and abilities that no monster can counter.

The only guys who were right about locking Hard to game completion were the FF7 Remake devs because that game is very punishing and requires learning enemies and knowing their weaknesses.

>>713861057
Because they wasted resources to pander to easy mode fags