RIP - /v/ (#713873376) [Archived: 840 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:33:45 AM No.713873376
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I've seen people claiming that PlayStation and Xbox putting their games all over the place is a good thing, but history tells me that it means those platforms are both on their deathbeds. I genuinely believe that in the relatively near future the gaming landscape will just be PC, Nintendo, and various PC handhelds, with Nintendo as the last company that makes both hardware and software (But I expect Xbox and PlayStation to license out their name for other products like what Xbox is already doing, even before the Ally. And even Sega has done this).

Exclusives define brand identity and push hardware sales. The death of exclusives, while being convenient for anyone who doesn't want to buy multiple platforms (including myself, these days I just have PC and Nintendo), is bad. And it's going to create stagnation due to lack of competition.

This is bad for gamers.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:48:17 AM No.713874018
>>713873376 (OP)
Sega started putting their games on other consoles after the Dreamcast was already dead.
The marketing for Playstation consoles are always incredible so they sell no matter what and they understood that. PS5 was actually their most profitable generation, back in the day of PS1 and PS2 they would sell the console at lost hoping to get money from games. But people barely bought games and used their console to watch movies instead because there were no good games.
It's only after years that PS2 finally became profitable. Meanwhile PS5 was sold with a big margin so even if the games didn't sell well they got plenty of money from consoles.
Now that Xbox is dead, Playstation has the niche of game consoles that can play next-gen games like a PC. PC will never be mainstream, I think a lot of people don't understand how many people don't even know how to use one.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:05:17 AM No.713874731
>>713874018
>Sega started putting their games on other consoles after the Dreamcast was already dead
All of the games I included in my image released between 1996 and 2000, and the only one that released in 2000 was Sakura Taisen (which also got a special edition Game Boy Color) and predates the death of the Dreamcast by almost a year.

So you're a liar, and I'm not going to read the rest of your comment because it must be full of bullshit since you began with a lie from the beginning of your comment.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:06:53 AM No.713877326
>>713873376 (OP)
bump, will reply
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:21:50 AM No.713878010
>>713873376 (OP)
In the past porting games between two platforms was more difficult, messy, time and money consuming due to radically different architectures. The vast majority of console exclusive titles came from third parties. Since Playstation and Xbox hardware became effectively interchangeable in the 8th gen and they share the same arch with PCs exclusives suddenly stopped making sense. Vast majority of third party games became available everywhere. Most games on PS4/PS5 can be played on an Xbone/Xbox Series and vice-versa. If a company wanted a third party game to be exclusive they had to pay for it. That is the reality of the situation.

I think there is just no justification for exclusivity anymore, and first parties are starting to realize there's money to be made elsewhere. Xbox games everywhere, Playstation games on PC (and consequently, next-gen Xbox).
You think exclusives are inherently good but I disagree. Exclusives follow hardware, not the other way around. If two platforms have the same type of hardware games shouldn't be artificially locked out of one of them.

Those older consoles had identity because they were different to begin with. Think of the hardware. Radically different and unique hardware leads to different and unique video games. Think of the unique user interfaces when you booted up a console. Nowadays everything feels the same and kinda sterile - like a PC.

Hardware competition will keep existing as long as Nvidia, AMD and Intel are around. It's just that moving forward there will be more competition in services and hardware functionality/quality rather than artificially locking games somewhere.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:24:07 AM No.713878127
>>713873376 (OP)
It's just coping, it's starts with them saying this is fine but then their company of choice goes full third party. I dropped Sony when they killed the Vita and I dropped Xbox when they killed their first party handheld while putting their games on PlayStation. I can see writing on the wall for both given their games are already on PC and Switch while Valve already made a console alternative with the Steam Deck and the Steam Deck 2 will be able to play all of Microsoft's and Sony's games anyway.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:25:51 AM No.713878227
>>713878010
And with that being said, I suppose I would like a future where exclusives naturally exist. As in, a future where consoles are diverse and doing all kinds of different cool things with different microarchitectures, like in the old days. CELL 2 when???
But really, realistically that's never going to happen. PC is the future. You'll have different hardware configurations and different shapes (desktop, laptop, tablet, handheld). And that's about it.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:26:17 AM No.713878251
>>713873376 (OP)
Go be stupid somewhere else.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:26:55 AM No.713878276
>>713878227
But I don't support exclusives existing just for the sake of it, artificially. I really should have put everything in one reply, sorry XP
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:27:21 AM No.713878301
>>713874731
Snoys like to use console sales to hide the fact that PlayStation has failed software-wise, and Xbots like to use Game Pass to hide the fact that the Xbox just failed completely.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:30:03 AM No.713878448
>>713873376 (OP)
I think Sony's endgame is to create its own Steam and have people in "the PlayStation ecosystem" kinda what Microsoft does but without fucking it up with every decision they take.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:43:14 AM No.713879068
>>713878448
That didn't work for Microsoft and it won't work for Sony. They take their stuff off Steam for their own PC storefront and they'll be back within the following year after a hard ass kicking from the Steam Store.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:54:18 AM No.713879708
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>>713874018
>>713874731
sega been doing that to the genesis fans too. The journey's been hard going from sega to xbox and seeing the same pattern again and again. If only they stuck to their guns maybe it wouldn't been like this
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 12:09:45 PM No.713880558
>>713873376 (OP)
The thing about sony is that they can't grow their fanbase anymore, their consoles usually ends up selling 100-160 million every generation but for investors this is not optimal since they demand constant growth and you're already squeezing the current suckers for all their worth

That's why they have started to release all their games on PC in order to chase short term profit since they don't think it will damage the revenue they get from playstation owners, but time will tell if it ends up being damaging to the playstation brand. Personally I wonder wtf even is the point of buying a playstation if all games comes to PC, despite what /v/ says the only reason to buy a console is for the exclusives