What do people actually have against this game
It never pretends you're the main character, it's no different from watching a movie, you just experience the story from a neutral point of view

>>713874350 (OP)
I wouldn't called them "people"

Retards get irrationally upset because they think they have agency in a narrative.

>>713874350 (OP)
I've always Ignored all the pseudo reddit shit and just love the depiction of Walkers descent into madness. Was kino

>>713874350 (OP)

No life losers who want war have never been through it so they think a horrible event with millions of fatalities will somehow fix their lives

>>713874350 (OP)
>your name in the credits
>4th wall breaking characters
>writers/creators explicitly say they want to critique both the player and this mindless shooter genre that was so popular at the time
>4th wall breaking loading screens that directly speak to the player
but yeah don't self insert.

I hate you gaslighting trannies so much

>>713876306
>4th wall breaking characters
That's just the narrative unfolding
>>writers/creators explicitly say they want to critique both the player and this mindless shooter genre that was so popular at the time
Not canon
>>4th wall breaking loading screens that directly speak to the player
Like what? It's just part of the story

>>713874350 (OP)
It insists upon it's message despite doing nothing to prove it.

>>713874915
You do have agency in good games

>>713877629
like the "to kill for entertainment is harmless" line. Does walker kill for entertainment?

>>713877889
he kills cause its based

>>713877889
That one pissed me off. How are you bring up a fucking “muh violent videogames” argument in 20 fucking 12? That shit was old news and a joke (although it always was) by the late 2000s and only propagated by retarded conservative boomers. Are you going to rally against Rambo movies also? Maybe ban Wil E. Coyote cartoons too?

>>713874350 (OP)
>no different from watching a movie
well theres the problem, the game criticizes you for playing the game and causing atrocities but never actually gives you a choice at all other than uninstalling the game/quitting so it just comes off as pretentious and lazy considering it boils down to another generic cover shooter if you ignore the 4th wall shit.
And there's older games that give you an actual choice like deus ex having npcs change dialogue based on how gun happy you are.

>>713874350 (OP)
>What do people actually have against this game
It's a boring generic third person shooter.

>>713877698
Name one game where you have agency that breaks you out of the narrative.

>>713878284
Do you think Spec Ops The Line was about "muh violent vidya games"?

>>713874350 (OP)

It's supposed to make you feel bad because war is le bad when you have been killing and phosphate bombing muslim niggers the whole game, that's why it failed for me, never once felt bad.

>>713879617
>Le narrative
What the fuck does this even mean

>>713880726
you kill white americans half the game

It's a bad game because it's a boring shitty military shooter.
gigachad.jepg
If you say it's good you're a communist and you've been raped!

>>713880502
Not exactly. The game isn't railing against violent video games in general-it's more about how players consume violence in games without thinking about the consequences or narrative context. It’s not “violence bad,” it’s “why do you want this violence?” It deliberately puts you in messed up situations to show how shitty it would be if war games treated their consequences seriously instead of glorifying them. The point is you’re not the hero, you’re not fixing anything, and if you played it like a standard bro-shooter, that should mess with you. Whether or not it lands depends on the player, but it’s not some lazy Jack Thompson-tier hot take.