is dragonquest kill?

>>713881935 (OP)
Looks like it.

>>713881935 (OP)
Not yet, but DQXII will be an unrecognizable dark and gritty action RPG. That will be the deathblow

>>713881935 (OP)
12 is going to be an action game made to cater to the western audience, so soon

>>713881935 (OP)
fuckkkk. he flees before I can even click on him

>>713882691
will it be directed by YoshiP?

>>713881935 (OP)
Dragon Quest Builder 3 when

>>713881935 (OP)
No, unlike Final Fantasy, Square always respected this series.
Even when they censored the 3 remake, the director publicly said that the censorship was idiotic and that it came from above. So at least they were frank about the bullshit that they had to do. This also means that everything else was respected.
This is a far cry from the Final Fantasy 7 remake which shits all over the original, removes all subtlety and lets Nomura's unhinged cringe run wild.
How wonderful they did DQ 8 and how well they remade 5 for the PS2 (even when it had less budget) speaks volumes of how they treat the source material.
8 serves as a perfect sequel to old 2D jrpgs that many other companies felt were "too outdated" so they added shitty battle systems and hallway design with minigames. So ironically the conservative nature of 8 made it pass the test of time.
Many other gimmicky sequels like Breath Of Fire 2, Wild Arms 3+, Grandia 3+, and others fell to obscurity while the tried and true formula of DQ games still makes them relevant.
One other JRPG series managed to do that as well.
The SMT games like 3,4 and 5 show that the formula they had during the snes and ps1 was timeless. They managed to make sequels that do have some qol and streamling qualities but not to the cost to the soul of the series.
Even the Persona games stayed true to the core gameplay of smt so no matter of you like or dislike them, those games still let SMT fans enjoy the core gameplay of the maninline franchise, as you still fuse demons, and play based on tactics rather than grinding.
For some reason the suits in square dare not to fuck with DQ and for some reason they still allocate some resources for SaGa chads as well.

>>713882986
Paragraphs, nigga. Learn to use them.

>>713882986
*Breath Of Fire V

>>713881935 (OP)
For now, yeah. Hopefully DQXII hasn't been cancelled and is released within the next 2 years.

>>713881935 (OP)
DQ 12 was still in the works I thought?
>>713882691
Nah. DQ is a cultural icon in JP. They'd never take the risk.

>>713883017
paragraphs are "reddit spacing" now so thank other retards for pushing this for the past 2,3 or so years

>>713882228
meds

>>713882986
True. When fans complained about IX being an ARPG they delayed it so they could make it turn based. If that was Final Fantasy they would have told FF fans to pound sand.

>>713883103
Ignore those retards, retard.
This entire site is 80% shitposters and trolls nowadays.

>>713882691
Nah it's still turn based but the director said that it's going to be more adult, whatever that means.
Personally I think that the games will have more themes that deal with death and loss as Akira Toriyama and Koichi Sugiyama died during deveopment, so this game is probably going to be a send off for the series. Yuji Horii is old as well so this will probably be his last game. Many devs retired much earlier but Yuji kept working.
Will Square fuck DQ after 12? Let's hope not but we'll have to see for ourselves.

It's very funny how the only positive quality people can give this series is "uhhh yeah it's turn based!". Nobody ever talks about characters, story, actual game mechanics beyond a specific style, just that it's turn based, that's it.
Maybe fags are worried that making it an action game will show to the masses how fucking boring and pointless these games are.

>>713882986
That's mostly because it's not square that acutally holds the rights to it

>>713883635
i like the character design desu

>>713883635
>It's very funny how the only positive quality people can give this series is
How about you stop being a faggot for a change and maybe look up stuff before making idiotic claims?
This series has been praised for it's character and monster design, exploration and music for decades.
In addition the Japanese dialogue was widely praised and is influential to this day in Japan. The localisations did butcher thay aspect but the games are still great despite the localisation.

>>713883969
>This series has been praised for it's character and monster design,
By easily amused Japs and spics for decades. There's a reason nobody outside Japan respects Sameface: The Artstyle.
>music for decades.
Everyone shits on the music.
>In addition the Japanese dialogue was widely praised and is influential to this day in Japan. The localisations did butcher thay aspect but the games are still great despite the localisation.
Ah, the games are actually good but you need to be le based nipponese to get it, naruhodo.

>>713883635
Ignoring the Japan exclusive MMO, the only game released in the last 15 years is DQXI. The second to last game came out on the DS. And the one before that came out 20 years ago. In other words almost the entire series was made under different standards. An overworld would also be noteworthy these days, but at the time they were in almost every JRPG, so is it a positive quality?
And sometimes the very basic shit is exactly what people want.

>>713884204
It doesn't matter if you call someone easily amused or spic or nigger or whatever when you first made a claim that "no one ever praised" this legendary series, which is demonstratibly false. So you are simply too retarded to engange even in this form of online conversation. Go and play the modern soulless slop that you like so much and leave people with actual taste to have a discussion.
You don't even know that multiple DQ games have extensive class systems which encourage experimentation and re-playing. You add nothing to this conversation, you are unable to say anything of substance. The only thing you contribute is idiot prattle that does nothing but waste time.

>>713884503
All the extensive discussion in these threads, like people going "Oh man, I hope it's not an action game because... I just don't want that to happen!!"

>>713882952
fuck that, the games are so soulless once the novelty of seeing monsters in real-time wears off.

>>713884204
>Everyone shits on the music
Only trannies and tranny lovers do because they didn't like Sugiyama's political views.

>>713884857
Nah everyone hated the music and then fanboys used one retard as a scapegoat to go "N-no wait, everyone actually LOVES it!"
There's a reason nobody ever brings up DQ music when it comes to soundtrack discussions.

>>713884919
>There's a reason nobody ever brings up DQ music when it comes to soundtrack discussions.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NT5JUfO2JlI
2 milion people say otherwise
and this is only on youtube
Composers, gamers, magazines praised DQ soundtracks for decades.
Why do you feel the need to say things that are blatantly false?

>>713885207
>this decade old two million views "relaxing music" compilation is proof
Ah-huh.

>>713881935 (OP)
Be patient, and trust Horii.
>>713885207
Don't feed the troll.

>>713881935 (OP)
where were you when dragonquest is kill

>>713881935 (OP)
Doubt it.
DQ3 remake was pretty fun despite that censorship.

>>713884614
Golem detected.

>>713885302
>Don't feed the troll.
I mean I at least try to point out the mental ilness that he displays.
Maybe it would do him good but you are right, it's probably hopeless.

>>713883635
It's like many fairy tales in one game, where everyone looks like Goku and Bulma. What's not to love?

i don't think i've ever seen this amount of actual vidya discussion in a thread before

>>713883063
>DQ 12 was still in the works I thought?
It is.

>>713883635
The positive qualities are
+turn based
+toriyama designs
+amazing music
+real feeling of exploration and discovery
+most fun casinos in video games
+beautiful stories that have moved me to tears twice

I miss the Dai renaissance. Things were looking so bright with a complete anime adaptation, arcade and mobile titles, and most importantly a console game announced to go along with it... and that's where the main problem started. They kept delaying this game to the point when it released, it was not only half baked but also nobody cared anymore.

Then both the Mobile and Arcade games EoS'd and that's it, complete silence. I love Dai but it's too bad most people didn't really care to watch it anymore, the patience in modern times just isn't there for a 100 episode long show..

>>713885918
>beautiful stories that have moved me to tears twice
What I'll always love about DQ is how "simple" they kept the narrative. No long pathos cutscenes with violins, sometimes you just stumble upon a letter from a couple that commit suicide, and that's it.

Less is more.

No. Expedition 33 saved it.

>>713883635
It’s funny how you’re a gay faggot

>>713886336
I had tear in my eye when in V you go back in time and meet your child self

>>713882952
One day, brother. One day.

>>713884857
This
yes XI had weak tracks but the hate campaign didn’t start until the trannies started seething over his politics

>>713886782
tl;dr on his political views?

>>713886782
The orchestral versions were still good, the guy can still make some really good music. I don't know how he does it but I don't think I've hated any of music.

romance a cute twin party member in every dragon quest game

>>713882986
>For some reason the suits in square dare not to fuck with DQ
Because the IP is actually fully owned by Yuji Horii through his family-owned Armor Project company.
Square Enix is only a licensor of the IP.

>>713886782
I never understood the dislike for the ost but I guess that adds up

>>713883635
With DQXI specifically, I greatly enjoyed the side stories they had with Sylvando and Serena. It was honestly pretty bold of them to actually kill a character off, and you can arguably stop at the end of that act.

>>713886993
hewas basically just an old Japanese man and didn’t worship the lgbtq mob and didn’t cuck to china and koreans crying over muh war crimes
>>713886995
I didn’t hate it either, I just know for a fact the backlash was fueled by people disagreeing with his personal politics

>>713886993
He ran a news show where he basically denied every war crime Japan committed during World War 2.

>>713882986
this
people who haven't played previous dragonquests wouldn't understand but this franchise is like Japan's baby, coming from a very conservative country and changing the core gameplay would be like sacrilege

on the other hand it fucking sucks because the games don't change that much so you have a franchise like Pokemon were every new game is essentially the same, unlike FF which can switch up alot every game

>>713887470
and that’s a good thing

>>713886993
Very mild conservative views.
Basically he said the Japanese government shouldn't listen to people who are anti-japanese like demanding the removal of the flag and national anthem in celebrations and he signed a protest letter to Washington when US politicians tried to force Japan to pay even more absurd bribes to Korean companies while pretending they had never paid any before.
ResetEra and journotards openly lied about him, and still do, that he was an ultra nationalist war crime denier and wiki repeats these lies as well.

>>713887470
No he didn't you fucking retard.

>>713887052
also this, most people aren’t aware of this and proves that they’re just here to shitpost and seethe about SE

>>713887473
I'd say DQ definitely recieves more mechanical changes than Pokemon.

>>713883345
>the director said that it's going to be more adult, whatever that means.
I'm guessing it just means darker relative to DQ, which won't mean full on edgy like people immediately concluded for some reason

>>713885317
Thought that was a squat arancini for a sec, based on the description it's not too far off.

>>713887618
why do journos and resetera-fags hate the japanese so much? or just asians in genera

>>713887898
it’s hilarious how they repeat that and that it’s an going to be an action game even when Horii said it’s still going to be the DQ everyone wants

>>713885302
>Be patient, and trust Horii
I don't trust him anymore after Monsters 3

>>713888294
>Horii
>Monsters
retard, also it wasn’t that bad

>>713888107
The japanese don't pay them bribes, give personal interviews, kickbacks, VIP sections for events and won't hire them for jobs once they've "paid their dues".

If you want a good laugh take a look at the Game Audio Network Guild awards. They're even more blatant about it and refuse to even nominate japanese games and routinely award actual trash.

>>713888408
he overestimates normalfags
they absolutely cry when a high pitched violin note is dragged out during some characters death or whatever

>>713888407
>IP owner
>known for always doing quality check on his games
100% his fault for picking literal whos mobile devs for it
and it's the worst Monsters game in almost two decades
I have no hope for XII after we've seen what happens with recent DQ games going through dev hell

>>713884204
The music is great

>>713885302
At this point he is geriatric but I still truist him more than SE in general

>>713881935 (OP)
>empty solid white pic
how is this related to dragon quest?

>>713889919

>>713881935 (OP)
I hope DQXII shakes things up.
I liked XI but it really felt like DQVIII-2 and these games usually do a better job of differentiating themselves and pushing the genre forward in cooler ways than that.
I'm worried that they settled into DQ's identity as the "safe" JRPG when it was arguably more experimental than FF back when they were both in their primes.

>>713888685
ok retard

>>713881935 (OP)
Get back here you bitch!

what DQ game should i start with?

>>713883793
If I had my laptop I would draw more Booga and Jade pairing, but I needed to get some key stroke fixed and the right click of the touchpad.

>>713891273
8 PS2 for 3D
4 DS with party chat patch/ Android for classic 2D

>>713887898
>full on edgy
You didn't play dqmj 2-3 and it shows
Peak dq edge was already achieved

>>713891432
this but I will also add 3 and 11 as good starting points too

>>713890697
VII felt like VI-2
X felt like IX-2
XI feeling like VIII-2 isn't really anything out of the ordinary.