What are /v/'s thoughts on David Cage and his games?

I love them and their jank/occasionally laughably bad story beats, and I'll play anything he releases. His studio's approach to mixing storytelling with gameplay is getting better with each game at the least.

Unlike the earlier years with something like Omikron, where it tries to be four different games in one, and everything that isn't walking + talking is unpolished/frustrating as hell to manage.

>>713888189 (OP)
The french Kojima

>>713888189 (OP)

you have to be a vapid teenage maturity level to enjoy any story from the last 10 years

I think he should make a game that's 100% buddy cop. His cop characters are always the best part of any game of his I've played but it's always dragged down by the other characters. Let him make a new LA Noire or something.

>>713888332
Maybe in regards to eccentricity but he doesn't even add gameplay to his video movies, it's just all QTEs. Both of them need tard wranglers that's for sure.

>>713888189 (OP)
They are kind of bad and his tricks and twists get more obvious as the series go on but I love all of them except for Omikron. Heavy Rain and Beyond Two Souls have some of the funniest silliest moments in all of gaming history and that makes up for how retarded the story is. Indigo Prophecy starts very strong and suddenly falls off a cliff but it's still ok. Detroit is his best game even if the plot gets very stupid. Especially the big "surprise" with the little girl.
I'd rank them: Detroit, Heavy Rain, Beyond Two Souls, Indigo Prophecy, a mile long gap, Omikron.

Kino except for Beyond

>>713888189 (OP)
WOT IF YE APPLIANCE IS LIKE 'EM NEGROES

I bought detroit become human for sale and for some reason I play for about an 1 hour and the framerate just drops to unplayable levels. I have to completely shutdown the game to get it to normal. Anyway to fix it?

I enjoy them. Detroit's release already feels like a lifetime ago to me. Quantic Dream's production cycle has really slowed down.

>>713888332
Le Créatifpapa...

>>713888189 (OP)
I've only played two but he makes boring games with mediocre stories and some good points here and there. Both Detroit and Heavy Rain have decent concepts but both fumble at making sense of important plot twists, the games practically lie to the player and contradicts themselves several times for the main plot twists to work and even then it doesn't make much sense. There are even plot points that are completely out of place and make no sense at all like the psychic stuff because it was leftovers from an old script that Cage didn't bother modifying.
But I think the bigger problem with his games is that he's not creative. There are better ways to tell stories than with QTEs and simon says. There are more ways to present a cinematic than trying to emulate western movies. The poor writing isn't even the main problem, it's the fact that it's written by a pseudo-intellectual that is trying to grab an audience of normalfags using the most conventional methods of storytelling in the medium. People meme him as a Kojima-like figure but in reality he's more like Sam Lake, Kojima at least subverted expectations multiple times throughout his games and used the features of the medium (like buttonmashing in the MGS1 torture scene) to actually convey the emotions of the characters to the player. Cage's characters are just completely flat because that's what his games are, flat and boring.

>>713888189 (OP)
Fahrenheit and Heavy Rain were his only two good games. Beyond was nonsensical Hollywood slop and Detroit was anti-white propaganda.

They're all hilariously awful. He's one of the worst writers in history.

I played them all over the last 2 months for friends.
>Indigo Prophecy
Interesting, then ass, then wacky and I somewhat enjoyed it, and ended mid as fuck.
>Heavy Rain
I loved it until I found out who the killer was and their retarded motivation.
>Detroit: Become Human
I literally just finished it a few minutes ago and thought I'd browse /v/ to snipe porn threads and found this one. I haven't digested it entirely yet but obviously the Conner/Hank bits were always 10/10s. That is just objectively the best parts by far. I had a few times (like other games) where a choice didn't actually lead to what the choice infered and it basically became a guessing game, but overall this one will get replayed unlike the other two. Genuinely a fun time.

>>713888189 (OP)
I like Detroit become human because Alice is sexy asf

>>713888189 (OP)
Heavy Rain is ok, everything else is just meh or objectively bad like Beyond Two Souls.
Still better than Kojima shit.

>>713888189 (OP)
I like Heavy Rain and Detroit Become Human specially the missions with Connor

>>713888189 (OP)
I don't even watch good movies, I don't know why I sat through Cage's really bad ones.

I like these. Recommend me more

no woke shit

Omnikron/Beyond two souls are always the ones everyone just forget about huh

>>713890547
kek

>>713888189 (OP)
They're unintentionally hilarious

>>713891369
>Omikron
Old PC exclusive

>Beyond Two Souls
Late PS3 exclusive, with late-late ports that came out during other notable games coming out. Also easily the weakest game story-wise of all of Quantic's release. It's just a series of set pieces where none of your choices have any lingering effects in later scenes.

cage comes from a planet called onthenose

JAYSOOOOON

>>713888189 (OP)
They're all a mess, but the industry is much more interesting by having him in it. He's like a discount Kojima. I love him.

>>713890783
Same here with Heavy Rain. I even watched a bit of the pewdiepie playthrough in 2014. Still didn't know who the killer was until it was revealed in the game. For this I give David cage props, I usually figure out a games twist in less than an hour (guessed the killer in 999 and danganronpa).
I'd like for him to do a columbo style game where we know who the killer is but the player has to go through collecting the evidence to catch him.

>>713894441
>didn't know who the killer was until it was revealed in the game. For this I give David cage props
It's not like there's any clues the player can pick up ahead of time to figure out the killer is XXXXXX.

Funniest clown in the west, can't wait to hear how dogshit the next one is.

>>713894441
Heavy Rain suffered dev hell which ended up writing out the paranormal shit in the game, which would have better explained things/not had the red herrings that were leftover in the final game.

>>713894942
Next one is Star Wars game from quantic dream

>>713894759
There is actually one minor thing I thought was was kind of "telling it" was the pipes being large and wide in that factory before electric room. But at that point it was impossible to tell.

>>713894376
I still find it hard to believe the plotline between
>slow burn maybe psychological maybe supernatural horror detective mystery where you control both the suspect and the detectives
>undead Neo fights against Mayan Super Sayans and the personification of Internet over god cunny while the entire planet is freezing over
is an actual thing a human being wrote.

>>713893474
That's why the twist that The deviants were created by CyberLife so they could take over Detroit is so great.

>>713888189 (OP)
>David Cage
Pretentious crypto-skype who sucks at writing worse than even Kojima.

>>713888189 (OP)
He makes good waifus

>>713888449
honestly this. the pseudo philosophical bullshit falls flat, but the detective bits are cool

>>713888189 (OP)
He ruined Detroid with philosophical themes that are poorly done when he could've made for interesting conspiracies that are in the game already. Didn't play the other games and androids doing the Martin Luther King walk was too on the nose, make it less subtle next time and introduce an antagonist named Android X, how about that.

One of the worst writers and storytellers in history. Heavy Rain is The Room of video games.

>>713888189 (OP)
white is violence
i dont play games made by white creators

>>713899769
holy fvarking zased

I played Heavy Rain just a few years back thinking it was a ps3 masterpiece I missed. But jfc what a retarded game for retarded people. Still baffled how stupid this game. At least the abysmal writing was unintentionally hilarious at times.

>>713893410
>pc exclusive

But it was also on the dreamcast, or is it a different omikron?

>>713888189 (OP)
A lot of good ideas and premises, a lot of shit writing and awful endings.
He needs to quit directing games, and instead become a writing consultant in the industry.
Have him write the opening hour of games on a per title fee, then have literally anyone else write and create the rest of it.

>>713902363
nah he is shit at writting, you just play his games for the LULZ
at least he is different from all other soulless slops

>>713902072
No, you're right, I forgot that late port existed. I actually wonder how gimped that version is, since the PC original was on 3 CDs, vs. Dreamcast being one GD-ROM. They'd have had to compress the assets further to fit on that.