If you can believe it, i’ve heard some people say they actually LIKE free-roam, but why?
>literally no one wanted open-world mario kart
>p-switches and peach medallions amount to korok seeds 2.0
>only reward is useless stickers
>no bosses, cool unlocks, or progression
>is the sole reason for all the game’s problems
It’s just… nothing
It's only a waiting room for the online modes
>>713899995 (OP)Its one of the most barren Open Worlds I've ever seen, literal slop
>Cars should be on sale on random car stores throughout the map
>Characters should be unlocked when winning boss fights throughout the map
>>713899995 (OP)There's a lot to xplore and finding the panels and p-blocks are fun specially the difficult ones theres like 400 and you can only get there through trcks, im only on 100 trying to do it without a guide
It's all the more upsetting that there is a foundation for a much better mode that would have taken less development time and would have probably satisfied people more.
Take the top 10% or so of P Switches (that's 39 missions. The special test of skill set, the trick around Bazaar one, all the retro homages, most of the ones involving vehicles).
Add a rank system, divide the content into worlds, and each completed world gives you the unlock for one of the minions (Keep the Kamek method for kiddies who cant beat the missions).
Bam, you've made something that respects your time and has appropriate reward. Chasing the high you felt exploring the castle in Royal Raceway from MK64 is something you maybe think you want, but you don't. Newer generations play games with more constant feedback & rewards, older generations don't want their time wasted, it's a lose/lose.
I didn't even include boss battles but again, the foundation for them is there. Chill Bully, Boom Boom, Porkpuffer among others are all fairly big enemies that could easily be repurposed into bosses by just making them interact with items differently, changing movement speed. It really would not take them much effort.
t. 100%'d the game (394 P Switches/200 Medalions/150 ? Panels)
>>713899995 (OP)That's what puts me off Forza Horizon and its shitty "festival".
>>713899995 (OP)You don't get Nintendo's vision.
The appeal of Free Roam is that you can freely drive in the backgrounds that are usually blocked off and that you can drive from one track to another.
It's soulful and comfy.
>>713902132>soulful and comfyit could have been fun as well
>>713901976>100%'d the game (394 P SwitchesThere's actually 450 so keep looking
>>713901903Okay, but to what end? Am I gonna get a cool reward? And no, stickers aren’t cool
>>713902132In a vacuum that sounds nice but no one would’ve wanted it if it meant them actively skimping out on actual content. I’d get rid of it in a heartbeat if it meant I got even half of the tracks 8DX had
>>713902421It’s funny, you wouldn’t know that if nintendo actually provided a way to track progress
Imagine if there were NPCs to talk to and get quests from and you could do unique races. Imagine if it was integrated with the online and you could see other people driving around
>>713902703You think that 8 had those tracks right out of the gate? That was the result of over a decade of DLCs and recycled content from Mario Kart Tour.
I feel bad for ADHD zoomers who can't enjoy the satisfaction of just driving around
>>713899995 (OP)There's nothing inherently wrong with the concept, but it does feel like Nintendo has invested too deep in "open ended" and "open world" design. Figures they would do this about a decade after the concept was popularized.
Free roam would be fine if that was the only change made in World. The bigger issue is that the game seems to be really proud of the intermission tracks despite the fact that 1-lap tracks have always been worse than traditional courses. Seriously, Mt Wario has been the only good 1 lap course, and it's still a shitshow where anyone can win / lose on a dice roll.
>>713901976I use to wish somewhere in the map resembles bomb omb battlefield and you drive up the top to start a boss battle with king bobomb and thus unlock him that way, coulda been a cool use of empty space
>>713902421I don't believe so but I could be wrong, but I doubt it. The reason for that seemingly arbitrary number makes more sense when you get all of the stickers. Add them up, the ones from Medals/? Panels/Booting the game/Beating Special Cup/Driving or Gliding X distance/Collecting X amount of coins/Doing X amount of tricks/Racing X amount of times all adds up to 33 pages of stickers, with no empty space in the last page.
If you have footage to prove me otherwise i'm all ears.
I haven't played it yet but I don't think I'd like the open world from what I've seen. Seems pretty aimless and a wasted opportunity when they could have had a campaign mode or something cool.
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>>713903003Yea, and they had 8 years to improve on it and they couldn’t even do that. Hell it didn’t even have to be 100 tracks, just a decent handful of high-quality tracks, at least matching the 48 8DX started with. People wanted something new, not different, but nintendo just can’t help but feel the need to “innovate”
>>713901584>>Characters should be unlocked when winning boss fights throughout the mapyou're gonna zoom around the boss with your car?
>>713904291Yes, and you get items to help you out. Fucking DS and Wii had it, this game has no excuse
>>713904208If we count the original MK8 they had 11 years
>>713904208I wanted something different since 8's driving was gay as fuck
>>713904208Bitch people fucking complained about the 3D Zelda games feeling all the same until BotW, now you just want the same shit over and over? If this were just regular Mario Kart you would be bitching about how "people will just stick with MK8DX lol"
>>713906384I think that's something people need to realize. I'm not going to pretend to know whether Double Dash was still being printed when Wii came out, same with DS and 7, but the games that are available on the same system do make an effort to be different from each other to not feel samey. Double Dash has the 2 driver mechanic while Wii had bikes and tricks, and 7 introduced underwater and gliding.
The “open world” is designed to hide the fact that it has 1/3rd of the tracks. Now you can drive on this empty, blank piece of grass between them so that adds three tracks, 6 backward, 200 total tracks. What a crock of shit. 30 tracks
>>713905957Was referring to development time for MKW which was 8 years, which half of that time was spent attempting to brute-force the shitty open-world on the switch. Imagine the game we would’ve gotten if they didn’t have to do any of that
>>713906384If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it
>If this were just regular Mario Kart you would be bitching about how "people will just stick with MK8DX lol"People have been waiting for a decade for something new and would’ve taken anything even if it had less stuff. The bar was “just don’t be ass” and people would’ve enjoyed the new game, that’s how low the bar was. Surprisingly, they couldn’t even do that
I like that it's empty. I like driving around the courses, happening into them, I like being in traffic and listening to the music, I like watching the stage hazards do their thing. It's like having a really big and intricate train set.
Trannio kart was always shit
>>713899995 (OP)I like it. There are interesting things to explore and I don't need an reward or directions to enjoy myself. However, there really should have been a reward and guidance to direct people. It is the most lazy but high effort lazy mode I've experienced in a game. They could have done a lot with it that would extend the game using the content they already made.
>>713906616there's nothing fun in this Open World slop
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>ohhhrrrr forza hurrizon have open worr
>dat rook rike-uh good idea
>ret prayer make own content we reserr same map and car erry few yeahs
>rittle piggy eat srop
>>713903023I can sit on my back porch and enjoy the birds but I don’t have to pay $80 to do so
>>713907623So the game should have been exactly like MK8 or 7, got it
>>713899995 (OP)the whole fun of exploring the open world in forza horizon is that every corner is a new course you race a lot of laps in, but between those there are still a bunch of hidden cars and vistas and collectibles etc
why the fuck did these slant eyed fucks design the game worse than a bunch of westerners?? it's incredible
5 year olds lost their shit exploring the train tunnel and outside of peach's castle in mario kart 64
too bad 5 year olds today only play roblox
>>713908449This holy shit, the fact that Tendies are accepting shitty P Switch missions that just gives out stickers is fucking hilarious, outside of that the Open World is fucking barren with nothing else to do.
>>713903003>That was the result of over a decade of DLCs and recycled content from Mario Kart Tour.so why'd they cut all of that out, then?
>>713908449it’s really a head scratcher because forza horizon has been the selling the same game and cars for a decade and the execution is middling at best. bing bing world is even worse than that
>>713908449>No meaningful missions>No way to track P Switches on the map>No Bosses>No StoryWtf were these retards thinking, oh I know that this bootlicking ass cult of a fanbase would buy it anyways.
>>713908740You'd be bitching at how it was the same game but with less content
>>713899995 (OP)But....but it's ok when Nintendo does Open World Slop
>>713908958Who the fuck plays Mario Kart for a story
>>713909039Having the new trick system and wall riding/grinding mechanic is well over enough to differentiate itself from the other Mario Karts, but even then they're stripping that away by forcing you to drive on these shitty straight line intermission tracks instead of the fleshed out 3 lap courses.
>>713909127Anything to make the garbage barren Open World mean something, other than that it's pointless
>The first $80 game is one of the worst Open World slop games
Grim
>>713899995 (OP)Sorry OP but you're not allowed to speak in this thread until you've beaten pic related
>>713899995 (OP)I'm having a blast with free roam
>>713912158this was rough, only beat it after realizing you only have to get through the goal ring and the others don't matter
>>713909248You can literally grind on power rails and fences during the intermissions and they have ramps as well
>>713902703>Okay, but to what end? Am I gonna get a cool reward? And no, stickers aren’t coolI'm going to blow your fucking mind here: because its fun. The game is the reward.
Nu games have turned games in fucking jobs that reward you for playing their job like game. They make you grind something boring just because there is a chance of a good reward.
The grind is my job, the vidya is my reward.
>>713912158>>713912428I never realized how hard it would be, makes the one in Shy Guy Bazaar look like baby shit.
>>713914803Well then nintendo’s vision sucks. Unfortunately they’re too stubborn to admit they’re wrong and are trying to force people to accept it
>>713899995 (OP)Why does grass still slow you down in free roam? It makes trying to explore certain areas as a heavyweight incredibly annoying.
