Discuss the likes of DMC, Ninja Gaiden and Bayonetta

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What happened to Stylish?

>>713923491
Games like NG and GoW aren't about style.

>>713923491
oh hell naw

>>713923491
Is WD really that bad? I crave for a proper gun-kata game

>>713924873
>proper gun-kata game
That's RE6. Anyway, WD isn't "bad", but it's not great either. You'll probably enjoy it for what it is if you don't go in expecting a game on the same level as NG.

Is there more to General Doko (in armor) in Ninja Gaiden 1 than staying away and "lol jump+forward+Y" until he dies? It seemed like finishing any attacks close by would just leave you open for a grab punish >>>on hit<<< because "lol difficulty". Likely the latter is also a reason for him to be immune to projectiles.

>>713925241
>if you don't go in expecting a game on the same level as NG.
That's part of why I hated Wanted:Dead. Everyone hyped it as Ninja Gaiden but with the serial numbers peeled off.

>>713925610
Filtered

>>713925610

>>713925610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qat_Y6V_jG8
If you're ever curious about anything in NG1, JayTB probably has a video on it.
>>713925758
The developers are at fault there for advertising the game with the whole "from the creators of Ninja Gaiden" thing. I think the game would've been received slightly better if the devs hadn't openly associated themselves with NG at all.

I'm gonna be honest, I tried NG1 (sigma) and got filtered by the encounter fairly early on against a bunch of red demon thingies. I tried a few times but felt like I had no idea what I was doing wrong and just kept spamming flying swallow which only kinda worked until I died. Am I too stupid to enjoy this series

I've been playing through the games for the first time. This took me 15 minutes.

>>713927551
Cube room gonna be fun.
>>713927493
Just study their behavior and avoid buffering your inputs, make sure to hitconfirm.

How do I git gud at timing on landing UT?

>>713924873
It’s a fun ass game that has more depth to its combat than people give it credit for. There are moves that will allow for longer combos but the game doesn't teach you. They just give you a training area. The game will want you to know more than button mashing. Normie casuals call it bad because it can be surprisingly punishing in a few spots, go look up the youtube comments on the first boss august “couldnt believe why it got all the bad reviews until this boss” lmao filtered bitch

The story is almost nonsense. It has weeb mini games. Voice actors sound dopey. The game is self aware on top of all this. Some might consider this bad but I dont think so

>>713930585
By practicing? Pay attention to Ryu's feet, you can buffer OLUTs when you're close to touching the ground. Just go and practice this with the regular on-land Y attack.

>>713931223
Dunno why I said feet I just meant the body in general.

What are some gud character action games to pick up on Steam Summer Sale? That aren't Devil May Cry 1-3?

>>713931206
A crucial part of making a good video game is making a difficulty curve that isn't retarded, faggot.

>>713933347
Assault Spy and Aztez.

The Character Action /v/ general defending and praising Wanted:Dead while shitting non-stop on DMC5 is so bizarre to me.

>>713933848
Not everyone likes punching bag enemies.

>>713933347
Personal recs that I checked are Assault Spy at $4 and Soulstice at $8.
Evil West is a shooter without a rank system but I consider it part of the genre, it just has the right vibes. It's currently $7.50.
Recently got Marlow Briggs off my backlog. It's a weird God of War clone with a Mayan mythology theme that is dirt cheap (base price is $5 and now it's $1) and for that price even if it's just a passable game it's worth it.
Heartless & Dreadful is a solo dev's PS1-style DMC clone and while it is fairly jank it's also base price $7 (50% off atm) so probably worth trying out, especially if you prefer keyboard controls (the game outright has a joke about how it sucks on controller because it wasn't designed for it).

And of course there's the Mightreya playtest.

>>713933347
Bayonetta & Vanquish combo. Ninja Gaiden Master Collection for Sigma 1, Razor's Edge and modded Sigma 2. The Wonderful 101 if it looks like your thing. Magenta Horizon. I'd also look into beat 'em ups like Streets of Rage 4, Fight 'n Rage, and The Ninja Saviors: Return of the Warriors.

>>713933347
Why don't you play DMC 4 and 5? 4 may be unfinished but it's a good game and 5 is pretty great.

>>713933848
"Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven."

So it is written.

Chat how integral are the KH games from the 2.8 bundle? I fucked up last year by buying 1.5 + 2.5 and KH 3 separately when I could've gotten everything for the price of these two.

Also Warriors Orochi 4 or Samurai Warriors 4 DX?

Have any of you guys played the Bloodrayne games? I've been thinking of getting them on Steam for a while.

>>713933848
People shitting on DMC5 are just shitposters for the most part. I'd unironically say Wanted: Dead clicks better for me, though, even if I think DMC5 is the far superior game objectively. The DMC games have always been weird to me. I think they're mostly great games, but I don't truly care for any of them besides maybe DMC1.

>>713933848
We shit on WD and Mork. What do you mean?

>>713933848
DMC5 was all hype and no substance
Shitsuno killed the series with his faggoty emo OC

>>713933848
I play and enjoy both tho.

>>713922204 (OP)
Make this thread once a week instead of daily and it will hit bump limit every time.

>>713935885
we just need some people to start a shitpost war between two series and it'll hit the bump limit

>>713933494
And let me guess, you actually couldn't beat Richter

Is there a way to disable the tinnitus sound effect when grenades explode? I'm not touching Wanted Dead otherwise.

>>713936436
skill issue

>>713934513
It's just cheaper to buy a jailbroken PS4 or to buy the physical media version of the PS4. Anyway, all the games are worth it.

>>713930585
It's braindead easy, the problem is landing in a safe place. If you jump wrong, someone will grab you and fuck you up.

>>713922204 (OP)
It's called JAV
>>713925610
idk but that is how I beat him. Just dodge, ->X into combo with dabilarho, repeat. The BGM during the fight is also peak. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yvMKM5-50Q
Fuck ghost Doku's grab though

>>713933848
Of course, this place has worst taste in games than a dog shit

>>713930585
Just press da button when you're about to touch the ground. Once you get good at that, practice also rotating the stick to get the on landing rotate+UT

>>713938749
>JAV
Japanese Action Vidya?

>>713939265
Japanese Action Violence.

>>713923491
What happened to stylish?
>posts stupid picture of 4 girls that has nothing to do wiht your question...fucking retard wtf

>>713937895
Good to know, thanks.

>>713935630
>itsuno killed the series
Weird way of saying doubled lifetime sales of a series that would've died in ditch without him.

>>713940668
>sales = good
Damn Assassin's Creed blows DMC out of the fucking water

>>713934128
dmc2 is a worse offender when it comes to "punching bag enemies"

>>713940894
>le series is le dead
>no it doesn't matter that it's more popular than it's ever been before
>no it doesn't matter that it keeps selling well far past release
>no it doesn't matter that sequels to other action franchises come out in its wake
>no it doesn't matter it wins all capcom polls
You lost, get over it.

Feeling conflicted on Mightreya to be quite desu honest

Lunar is lowk fire in 3RE

>>713941936
What do you mean lowkey that shit is great in all the games.

>>713942026
Always avoided it.

>>713942242
Why?

>>713922204 (OP)

>>713943162
Holy based

>>713942378
I guess I just let shitters and shitposters shape my perception of it as nothing but a UT machine years ago, and the rest of the arsenal seemed cooler to me so I never gave it a fair shake.

>>713941384
This game ran like shit for me and is quite janky. Besides that, it's kinda braindead but it's fun. I hope they implement more moves since there aren't really that many combos. As it stands it's like having only one weapon and one style in DMC 3.

>>713943582
More doesn't mean better.

>>713943538
You let shitposters that call the games 'pressing Y simulators' tell you one weapon in particular is just a UT machine?

>>713941384
I think that while the auto-lock is kind of iffy in action games that Assault Spy used it to good effect so I'd imagine on higher difficulties it would work in Mightreya as well.
But the arenas are too large and the auto-lock is too close-range, I feel like it's shorter than it was in Assault Spy and in Assault Spy there were smaller arenas and you didn't have to navigate the 3D plane nearly as much.
Don't know how much more dev time Wazen has in mind but I do feel like the main issues that the demo had can be ironed out, and a lot of them (the moveset) are going to be cleared out in the final release.
The difficulty I don't think will be an issue, Assault Spy didn't really get hard until you got to Extreme Mode but once you did it was pretty brutal.
>>713944187
I think the main issue is that the moveset feels like it has some wasted space. There are four separate buttons strictly for mobility options, and the dive is kinda useless and doesn't even do anything while you're on the ground. The homing jump is a bit redundant when the attack button homes in already. The secondary attack button is just a meter-based super punch. It feels like the control space isn't really being used efficiently.

>>713938847
>>713940108
you’re pregnant with evil

>>713934513
Depends on what you mean by integral. DDD is pretty good but still has a lot of general issues that make it divisive. It's mainly comparable with BBS which is largely considered one of the worst games (still is quite a unique experience and has enough fun retarded shit to be worth trying), DDD is a little more competently designed and feels better on the moment to moment gameplay but lacks some of the more out there variety so while I would say DDD is better overall some go the other way. When it comes to plot DDD directly sets up everything for KH3 to the point they were originally considering having it be the first half of KH3.
0.5 is basically a short tech demo for KH3, it's a fun experience in and of itself, the level design stands out in the series and the secret boss is really damn good but it's very short, like 5 hours. You can however dress up Aqua and give her cat ears.
I've only heard people sour on WO4 compared to 3, and I really enjoyed the vanilla version of SW4, the hyper attack balance was a little off but maybe they addressed that.

>>713941936
Both lunar and the dual katanas give such an intense rush when using them, the sound design and the sheer number of hits they put out feel incredible.

Tides of Annihilation is looking great!

do Nioh games qualify for this genre

>>713922204 (OP)
Head bounce > EXACTLY 4 Shuriken > Flying Swallow is some of the coolest tech I've ever seen in NG
I need to figure out more shit like that man

It's peak...

>>713933347
Friendly reminder bayonetta 1 and vanquish are on sale for $6.
DMC4 and 5 are like $7 if you don't have them already.

>>713948005
Yes

>>713944237
Well I meant the more mentally ill and persistent type, when you're new and uninformed it's easy to fall for confirmation bias and let any shitpost reinforce whatever silly opinion one might have. In my case it was the lunar.
>>713947543
Thanks for the write-up, definitely seems like I'd be lost both in story and gameplay if I were to skip this bundle and just play 1.5 + 2.5 before starting KH 3.
I have next to no experience with musous but I guess I'll get SW4.
>>713947872
For me it's their speed.

>>713949945
What if I own all these games already. What else should I play?

>>713933347
the wonderful 101 is 55% off rn and I highly recommend it. its not as cheap as the other ones mentioned tho.

>>713949451
I like that when you die it says "hero is over" or something. That's the kind of soul I miss from old japanese games.

>>713950659
You might like ninja gaiden 2.
Do not play wonderful 101 like this anon >>713950935 suggested. It's fucking awful.

>>713931206
I'm being sincere. Please sell me on the game. I tried playing it and uninstalled after the first fight. I ran out of bullets instantly to enemies with tons of HP and died just trying to get close to use the sword. When I played it just seemed like a shitty shooter.

>>713950323
There's always ways around it if you want to look things up but having more games to play is always nice and I can't imagine it costing that much now anyway. Speaking of which, in case you're confused on the general play order since some people muddy the waters regarding prequels and even the collections don't help:
Play KH1 first, then either Re:CoM or emulate the GBA version, then KH2, then watch the Days video or emulate it (look up Melon Mix it's coming ahead leaps and bounds), then BBS, watch or emulate Re:Coded (again, Melon Mix) then the 2.8 games.
That's pretty much release order but they put the Days movie in front of KH2 despite it being intended for after. Days as a game is a hard sell and gets quite slow at times but Re:Coded's combat is a lot of fun. CoM is a love it or hate it kind of game but the GBA spritework is pretty great, both versions have their strengths overall.

>>713933848
It's cause an e-celeb shilled WD recently

>>713941140
DMC 2 is better than 5

>>713953693
Many thanks.

>>713952739
you legitimately do not have a soul if you hate wonderful 101

>>713925610
With the Dragon Sword, you're better off using the two slice strike you get from attacking while running. Wait until he's done cutting the air with his combo, and then run and hit attack for a quick swipe of his health, and roll jump to safety. Much more reliable than trying to flying swallow him to death.

>>713933848
dmc5 really was overhyped, when I played it it was super easy and pretty boring, getting SSS was easy too with Dante and V

>>713954003
This and Morks tastes have been questionable ever since.

>>713952739
I already have NG Master collection, NGB on xemu and NG2 on Xenia and have played them all (still haven't done MN/UN on all of them though). I feel like there are no more games, I'm patiently waiting for NG4.

>>713957063
I am looking into getting Neo Twewy, seems cool, check it out

>>713956264
>Much more reliable than trying to flying swallow him to death.
Well, I will keep that in mind if I'll get to replay the game some time later. I mean, at the time of that post I've already beaten him with the way described in the post. After watching >>713927216 I at least now know attacks which can are guaranteed to be punished rather then having to coinflip whether Doku will block out of any point in his own move.

>>713959724
Cool, bro. I think a lot of the strategy in NGB is just being patient and playing defensively until an opportunity opens up. roll jump and block, and when to use them opens up the entire game.

>>713922204 (OP)
How often do I have to teach you this lesson?

>>713941353
this fucking Vergil image always gets me

>>713957227
No game that is abbreviated as "twewy" could possibly be good. but MAYBE it has a cool japanese name to make up for it

Cleared my first MN trial in 3RE, was surprisingly fun, so I did it again to show to my best friend. Using SoB on Epigonos, then chaining that into the regular/claw ninjas is absolutely hilarious. Fuck I love all that blood and violence. Shame it won't be in 4.

>>713935885
We're going to shit up this board until we get our own containment board like far worse, less TRVE Vidya genres

what does DSD actually offer that dantes other three weapons don't do way better? I'm honestly thinking of just removing the damn thing and running balrog/cav/cerb for faster swaps
>but summon swords
they do literally 1-3 damage a swing on DMD outside of round trips which is good but not "constantly swap to this while doing other stuff and give myself carpel tunnel" good

>>713964567
it's called "It's a Wonderful World" in japanese, ENJOY

>>713961942
Fatty Gabe says it's Character Action and he invented video games

>>713933848
its literally like 2 schizos samefagging in every action game thread for years now

>>713972542
Hmm, let's see what Homosexual Benjamin thinks "Character Action" is?

Yeah, I think I'll stick with JAVs.

>>713970140
For me it's launching roundtrips and SSS taunting the defenceless enemy

>>713972542
>this is the same as DMC, NG and Bayo
lol
lmao

>A glittering Island
>A city of sta-

>>713975570
Vernal Edge is actually good.

>>713980726
looks like a generically shitty metroidvania