Which one is your favorite?

The one with Tali.

2 > 1 > 3

>>713924194 (OP)
1
The others are bad.

How's the legendary edition? What all did they fuck up and what are the mods to fix it?

>>713924923
It's completely fucked and there's no fixing it. Play the originals.

2, it's the most well put together one.
>>713925017
>It's completely fucked and there's no fixing it.
https://www.nexusmods.com/masseffectlegendaryedition/mods/8
Fixes a lot of stuff, Reaper void included.

1 then 2. Nobody but mongoloids likes 3

>>713924923
it's great if you install MELLO. don't listen to oldtroons.

>>713924923
A lot, somehow. Lighting seems to be the most fucked from what I've heard.
>>713925487
Nice hips, but but damn is it off-model.
Anyway is it just me or are Liara's tits bigger in LotSB/3? Her white armor always felt like this.
Ashley in heavy armor in 1 too felt properly big.

>>713925680
>Original series with ALOT
SOUL
>Remake series with MELLO
SOULLESS

>>713924194 (OP)
2> 3 > 1

1 is still my favourite. I will never get bored of the game, the atmosphere, the music, the story, the lore, the broken gameplay, the shitty Mako.

>tfw M4 Part 2 plays at the ending

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7ymcb1Zk8

It was like a giant sign "hey this is just the beginning". Too bad it never fulfilled the potential the first game setup.
I'd rank them 1 > 3 > 2.

>>713924923
It's great and the originals are always there if you wish to replay them as well. Not like they replaced the earlier games. I find it the best because all the DLC is integrated and you don't have to fuck around with addons. Remeber buying those DLCs on Origin with BioWare points, that shit was cancer.

>>713924194 (OP)
>>713924194 (OP)
1 > 2 > 3
2 as a game is overall better designed, but 1 has that wonder and sense of adventure that's almost impossible to find these days. 3 is meh overall

>>713924194 (OP)
2>3>1

>>713924194 (OP)
1 > 3 > 2

>2nd game has the plot skeleton of a 3rd entry but the the freewheeling low stakes of a 1st entry
What were they thinking?

>>713924194 (OP)
1 hands down. Shame how the series went.

>>713926086
>What were they thinking?
Money. It was a franchise reset/reboot to draw in new people who never played 1.

>>713925525
3'd multiplayer was/is peak tho
hating on 3 is so overdone

>>713924872
>primary thruster has windows
Neat, but sadly the sizes of the Normandy and all vessels in the series are fucked.

>>713926226
praising 3's multiplayer to deflect from the singleplayer being total shit is so overdone

>>713925904
>3 better than 2
Explain yourself.

>>713926435
They didn't play 3 on release.

>>713924194 (OP)
1, no contest.

>>713924194 (OP)
1 > 2 > Andromeda > 3
I mostly just like to drive the buggy, hence why I like 1 and Andromeda. 2 had some of the best "hub" planets and areas, however. 3 isn't that bad now but I rightfully avoided it on release.

>>713926435
Well, a few things, gameplay is improved and you can see that in both singleplayer and MP, but MP is irrelevant nowadays I guess with the legendary collection.
Story in 2 is kinda in a weird place. You could realistically completely skip the game and just jump from 1 to 3 and you wouldn't REALLY miss much. Some anon said it well.
>>713926176
>It was a franchise reset/reboot to draw in new people who never played 1.

2 is a fantastic game, don't get me wrong, some of the characters, the music, the acting, writing...just don't think it was a great part of the franchise. Felt like a spinoff more than a mainline game. In retrospect I would've liked it more if some plot points weren't just kinda dropped like the entire dark energy thing.
>>713926465
Still got my X360 copy with the scratched out code for the From Ashes DLC.

>>713926579
I agree with andromeda being better than 3

it gets a lot of flak, but its simply the better game and is closer to 1 (exploration, buggy, skill points) but has the better gameplay of 2

>>713924194 (OP)
ME1 has the best writing and it did the practically impossible task of establishing a strong sci-fi universe that felt real and was populated by interesting aliens. It also has the best combat and exploration because I'm a fucking nerd who likes RPGs.

Then EA came in and FUCKED 2 and 3 to the point where they're unrecognizable. 2 is still fun but it essentially doesn't have a plot. 3 has some moments, but it's a slog to make it to the end. Mass Effect could have been the best video game trilogy ever, and it's still quite good, but the meddling of the publisher derailed the most interesting parts of the franchise.

>>713926706
EA had little to do with it ultimately.

>>713926706
Fully agreed.
They did a great job establishing a new IP and fully investing many players especially with the, at the time, wondrous potential of choices mattering from game-to-game

Having played the legendary edition with mods it made me realize 2 is the weakest and that's probably the one I played the most back in the day. Story is non existent, characters are hit or miss and there are too many and it has the worst gameplay of the 3. The only thing it has going for it are the visuals.

I agree that ME1 has the better story and feels more like an RPG, but I like 2 better for the gameplay, the presentation, and the whole idea of assembling some kinda Suicide Squad out of the "outlaw" side of the galaxy and then seeing your efforts (or lack of effort) pay off in the end.
I would've liked 3 more for the similarly styled "amass forces for the final fight against the Reapers" concept if it wasn't executed in such a dogshit way like the rest of the game.
2 > 1 > 3.
Andromeda is a meme.

>>713925680
I got MELLO and it still looks off a lot of the time desu.

>>713924923
They did an interview where they said they fixed that certain shots lingered on Mirandas ass too long. So I will never play the Legendary edition. Actions have consequences.

>>713927359
I like 1's gamplay more than 2 so unfortunately 2 has nothing to offer me except Tali romance which isn't enough.
Also the Coomlectors/Harbinger are awful villains compared to Saren/Sovereign/Geth.

2 is the greatest video game for that "I'm putting together a team" feeling.

>>713928097
>Coomlectors
P-por que?

>>713927691
Try using that COLOR reshade as well. With that I think it looks great most of the time. Eden Prime is still ugly tho.

>>713924194 (OP)
Andromeda for sure, nothing will top it

>>713928938
If Ashley and Kaidan are both alive, then who the fuck was at the bomb site?

>>713924194 (OP)
>Which one is your favorite?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYnjoRbODfQ

>>713924194 (OP)
2 by far. 1 is fine but overrated by the most cancerous part of the ME fanbase.

>>713924194 (OP)
The first one but I like them all

>>713929128
You aren't thinking 4th dimensionally.

1
>more typical rpg mechanics
>heat instead of bullets and mags which makes sense in the future and is just more pleasant for gameplay
>story makes sense and the reaper threat pulls you in
>racing to the citadel, killing saren and climbing out of the rubble is a badass end to the story
2
>streamlined a ton
>mags are back
>story is kinda fucked (human reaper)
>doesn't resolve anything
>women are hot as hell
3
>lol
>lmao

>>713929850
>doesn't resolve anything
But makes you feel like a total bad ass.

1 has the best atmosphere
2 has the best ass
3 has the most satisfying gameplay but you need to mod the game to not feel disappointed with the ending

>>713929927
the lead up to the suicide mission was more fun than the suicide mission in my opinion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTsD2FjmLsw&rco=1

Seniority is realizing the council is pretty reasonable in their actions. Everyone believing Shepards vision right away always struck me as odd.

>>713929850
>>doesn't resolve anything
It does, actually.
Quite a lot.

>>713924194 (OP)
3. I liked the Multiplayer

>>713924194 (OP)

The first one. 2 is a really good game but they also watered down the setting and scale and boy, it shows. As for 3, at least it has good gameplay

>>713930313
>tfw I always pirated the game since launch for the longest time so I never got to experience the multiplayer

>>713930258
>quite reasonable
>the council ignores that a Geth fleet led by a very not-Geth style spacecraft
>Turians manage to "reproduce" Thanix in a matter of years, somehow don't notice technological paradigm differences
>Geth vehicles somehow didn't have it equipped en masse
>the council assumes that the Geth would irrationally attack the Citadel
>in spite of the fact that there is little strategic value for peer-to-peer battle between the two, as attack on the Citadel equals an attack on 3 species at once, plus Krogan uplift v.2, plus new AI resurgence, plus loss of all treaty restrictions, plus Quarian counter-strike attempt at thin ship line, plus humanity cheesing them all, plus total strife in Terminus
>the galactic civilization public seathouse is poorly defended against actual assaults
Reasonable, uhuh.

>>713924194 (OP)
the first one is the only good one

only normalfags like 2

3 is fine if you ignore the plot

reapers were undoubtedly a mistake

>>713926049
come itt to see this post

>>713930165
It was kind of funny when the game came out and everyone was losing people at the end of the game, cause they rushed to finish it.

I refuse to play these on anything below Insanity, so 1 probbaly becomes my favourite purely for how your biotic powers can actually be used for environmental kills.
>that part to recruit garrus in dr michel's clinic
>goons hiding behind crates
>use push on crate to knock it over and crush them
You just didn't get that in the other 2 games, it was really enjoyable.

>>713932678
3 railroads you into LONG fucking chains of missions.

>>713924194 (OP)
Dont know if I got super old bros but nothing compares to when I played ME 2 right after playing 1. Pure unadulterated kino for younger me. Ff7 rebirth gave me a similar feeling but not quite. I am just too old and jaded now

Excited for that expanse game though- looks somewhat promising

>>713934368
Are you talking about OG1 or LE1 though, because the difficulty balancing is completely different between the two. What you said about biotics still applies regardless though. I HATE 2's retarded anti-biotic shield shit on every enemy on Insanity.

>>713935423
>play magic user like a sissy
>anti-gay fields show up in harder difficulties
>get mad

>>713925487
why not just play the original?

>>713936194
>why not play at 60fps?
>it's good enough
Imagine being poor.

I always found the elcor really endearing

>>713936387
And sometimes sexy.

>>713936032
I actually play soldier. But my biotic squadmates becoming useless is bad, yes.

I enjoyed Mass Effect so much. I've never finished a game series and plunged into literal IRL depression afterward. The pain was unreal I can still hear the music bouncing around in my skull from time to time.

>>713924194 (OP)
Obviously the first one.

>>713936625
Distressed response. Please human do not speak this way.

>>713924194 (OP)
Andromeda

>>713936381
You're in every thread shilling for EA. Give it a rest.

>>713936936
You're in every thread shilling for poverty. Give it a rest (on your cardboard pallet in an alley).

>>713936387
Its a shame we dont get more of them, I instantly fell in love with them and the Volus the second you meet them in their embassy office in 1.

>>713937070
Hilarious but I'm still not giving a cent to EA.

>>713937274
Imagine being so steadfast in being poor you won't pay $6 for 3 games.

>>713937410
Still not getting my money :^)
Tell your higher ups they're gay homosexuals

There is only one Mass Effect game and it ended with Shepard fighting Sovereign at the Citadel. Are you a mental case, OP? Its a true shame we never got more from Mass Effect.

>>713937410
>You're poor but PLEASE I NEED YOUR DOLLARS PLEASE PLEASE BUY THE GAME WE PUT IT ON 90% DISCOUNT PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE
Pathetic.

I thought shepard telling my team to "make sure" saren was dead was gangster, the strong silent type like gary cooper

>>713937612
Post your Steam library.

>>713938056

>>713938258
thanks for reminding me to finish Banner Saga

>>713938056
He was gay, Commander Shepard?

>>713928938
There is a red sky mod for Eden Prime now. Looked solid.
https://www.nexusmods.com/masseffectlegendaryedition/mods/1367

>>713924194 (OP)
In terms of combat:
1 > 3 > 2
2's combat on hardcore and higher keeps you pinned down a lot of the time, and forces you to play more passively compared to the aggressive combat of 1 and 2. There's a few enemy units like the Praetor for example whose mechanic is stay pinned until the death beam stops shooting you. Also, Scions can suck my fucking dick.
Story:
1 > 2 > 3
A lot of setting establishment and behind the scenes world building you notice on subsequent playthroughs like the interstellar-politics of humanity being used as a buffer zone by the Council races between the Terminus Systems and the Batarian Hierarchy. Humanity isn't top dog in ME1 and that's great. 2 really revolves around the suicide mission, but the loyalty and recruitment missions are the best part of it, especially Thane's and Samara's which don't even have combat. Samara's loyalty mission in particular really let's you roleplay which a lot of Mass Effect lacks. Then there's 3... Yeah, some good stuff, but even years later the ending and it's updated version still haunts it forever.

>>713924194 (OP)
1 is nice to imagine how it could have been iterated on if they stuck more to that formula, 2 is objectively the better game.

>>713938551
NO are you listening to me?!

>>713925525
3 is better at being a tragedy than 2 is at being a rpg-shooter

>>713938871
From what I've heard, 1 was originally supposed to be slowly losing ground hence this old trailer. https://youtu.be/OqO1ViYFa4s?si=PXYETJ-7PwQjCrE6

>>713928938
An absolutely ugly screenshot. play original ME1

>>713939023
Nah that's just drama bait for a trailer. Caleston was also scrapped and repurposed into Therum.

>>713939303
>Caleston was also scrapped
Yep, along with the Garrus collar grab.

>>713939376
I mean I understand why. They still kept Shepard getting physical depending on your choice, like pulling out a gun or punching someone. I've always felt 2's interrupts are a little too overpowered, because Shepard can interrupt people but no one can interrupt Shepard.

>>713939601
>but no one can interrupt Shepard.
Player agency most likely. You'll seldom find people who enjoy getting stun locked ala biotics spamming throw on you in 1 as an example.

1 had the best combat, powers, and stats
2 had the best graphics and character variety
3 had the best mission variety

Modded trilogy looks fantastic. No need for the demaster with muh no butts and bad lighting.

>>713939728
I know. But my other problem is that you just don't know exactly what Shepard will do on first playthrough. They do their best to telegraph it in 2 (they literally gave up in 3 and gave interrupts for mundane shit like saluting) but as you said I would have preferred having the agency to know and choose my roleplay. Also a lot of people miss some unique interaction that happens if you don't take the interrupt.

>>713939168
Maybe I haven't sucked enough cocks, but every time you weirdos make these comparisons, I never see the original as looking better.

1 > 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2

>>713939861
I think ME2's roster is bloated desu, ME1's squad was perfectly balanced. Each member had a purpose/niche in both gameplay and story. 2 has a lot redundant characters, or just characters I straight up don't care about. A lot of them have no stakes in the story or are straight up not relevant to the story, hence getting abandoned in ME3. For example Samara has zero logical reason to join you, and she's a biotic so she's useless on Insanity anyway. Let's be honest we usually take our two favorites all the time but in 1 I actually rotated between basically everyone except Kaidan.

>>713939908
Yep, it's a problem with the paraphrasing in the dialogue options in the games too. You just explore the dialogue in different playthroughs, but then you notice that a lot of the choices in 1 are the same, and by 3 they ripped the mask of the illusion of choice off. Though what sucked in 2 was you had to commit to paragon or renegade or else you got punished with less alignment points which meant you couldn't pass very high persuasion and intimidation checks. Outside of using exploits to boost paragon and renegade of course.

>>713924194 (OP)
The next one

>>713940356
Also ME1 squadmates each have a full class suite of abilities while ME2 squadmates have 2+1(probably an ammo power lel) which is lame.

>>713940603
The consequences of a console game stuck with a gamepad and people bitching that pausing the game to use the ability wheel broke the flow of combat and was annoying. There should have been a wheel in 2 and gameplay would slow down so you could issue orders and use abilities.

>>713940356
The problem is you can draw a vertical line in the middle of that image, and everyone on the right is interesting, while everyone on the left either actively is awful (Liara) or milquetoast (Kaidan/Ashley).

>>713940409
I am really baffled that they're even making another one.
I mean, I know they have nothing else going, but really? After 5 years from some teaser and 4 from a remaster, we're gonna take another at least 3 years to make a sequel to the game that flopped in 2017.
Even if they change course and don't make it an Andromeda sequel, this isn't a game they can sell. I mean, what's it even gonna be about? X years in the future, all your friends are dead and shit happened in the meantime, here's a new batch of the ugliest mother fuckers this side of the Attican Traverse. Never mind the fact that the new cast can't be just whatever, to draw in the audience, they need to be at least on par with the trilogy, but that kind of attachment and investment from the audience take time and they don't have that luxury.
What are they even doing, at this point?

>>713941075
Ashley is one of the better characters in the game and Liara isn't that bad cmon. Kaidan is just boring which is his biggest crime.

>>713941224
Liara IS that bad. I purposely get her last, and she tries to rape me constantly (and it's rape, because she's fat and ugly). Ashley is a strong military family with an embarassing relative stereotype in a you-go-girl package.

>>713941224

>>713941371
She's not ugly unless you're playing LE.
You aren't playing LE are you?

>>713941518
She's been ugly since the beginning. I played the original PC and 360 releases of 1 as well.

>>713927359
I will never understand people who claim they like 2's 24/7 wallhugging simulator gameplay over 1's combat.

>>713941371
You sound like an obnoxious faggot.

>>713941632
Skill issue.

>>713941718
No, I don't sound like Liaratroons.
>>713941632
Because it's more fun.

>>713941203
The only way in a million years another Mass Effect game would be good is if they gave it the Andor treatment where the scale is way smaller and virtually no previous characters physically return (callbacks or references or whatever else would be fine). If the dev team can't commit to exploring new characters and how the moving parts of the setting actually function and interact in day-to-day practice, it's over. Which it is, it is over, because this is modern day Bioware we're talking about.

>>713941718
Bit homophonic innit?

>>713926706
Did EA affect the writing or did the writers at bioware were as shit as the star wars sequel writers?

>>713941575
She's cute in 1, let's not pretend.

>>713941938
It was partially EA, but a lot of it was due to Mac Walters not having Drew Karpyshyn to keep him in check. EA bought them right before 1 shipped, and they probably had a lot of 2 fleshed out already.
>>713941983
She's really not, and you literally see a boatload of better looking asari before meeting her (Benezia in a cutscene, Sha'ira, Tevos, random others on the Citadel, and ones on other worlds if you rightfully get her last). It's a race comprised entirely of slender, beautiful, and graceful women. Then you meet a fat, ugly, and autistic one that tries to rape you at every turn.

>>713936625
Always thought she was Hawaiian and Asian or something but never white.

>>713942180
The killer is that it's just bad modeling. The real woman is quite cute.

Mass Effect 2 was great because it was a big cooldown period, so there was this feeling I could take my time to explore the galaxy.

>>713940356
Some were, yes, but there were so many good abilities from them that didn't exist in the first game that were really good. I knew how to work around them, even on the higher difficulties where enemies were made into damage sponges (designers even shit on that in hindsight) so having Zaeed or Kasumi, in a party, Garrus and Tali, or Miranda and Legion.

Jacob, Jack, Grunt, Mordin, and Samara/Morinth were unnecessary, but not useless.

>>713942148
This bit isn't very funny

>>713924194 (OP)
I replayed Mass Effect trilogy not too long ago, and I realized just how shallow they really are. The combat isn't great, the roleplaying is pretty terrible, the only thing that carries the whole series is the interesting characters and lore.
That being said, I like 1 the best by simple virtue of not having thermal clips. Why the hell did they think thermal clips was a good idea?!

>>713924194 (OP)
1 is the best and most special to me, played it many times and never tire of it, if anything I appreciate it more and more. I used to like 2 but I've soured on it over the years for reasons that have been discussed a million times. Never liked 3, it's the single biggest gaming let down of all time. Thankfully 1 is a self contained story so I can play it and ignore the rest.

>>713924923
They took a 15 year old series and made it run like a game that came out in 2018

>>713942350
>Liaratroon in full meltdown mode
She's fucking ugly and fat. Deal with it. I don't care if you have 10 pages written about how you're married to her and can name all your kids and the schools you send them to. She's fat and ugly. She's the series' Yuna, Aerith, Quistis; where she's the undesirable cunt being forced on you.

>>713941812
>virtually no previous characters physically return
You bring some pretty good points, but this I disagree with. First, people care less about new Bioware characters, than they care about Concord characters. Second, even if by some miracle of God, they do care, they will still not measure up to the trilogy characters, which is an unavoidable comparison, so long as you're making a game in the Mass Effect franchise. Lastly, who cares about Mass Effect as a franchise anymore, just because it is in space, with powers? If that's all that mattered, Star Wars would still be relevant. Respawn might be able to sell it, because the Jedi Survivor series is basically grandfathered in, at this point, from a time that Star Wars was still relevant, but the final game will be the last game in the franchise that anyone will give a shit about. Even then, Mass Effect is so damaged and the ill will toward Bioware is so prevalent, you can't sell it yesterday. Even if it is better than mid, you can't sell it. The idea that Bioware will come out with a 8-9/10 banger is just not happening.

>>713942350
could just be a schizo

>>713942148
>Mac Walters not having Drew Karpyshyn to keep him in check.
According to pretty much everyone, Mac was trying to visualize the narrative as per Casey's orders. They both fucked up, but Casey is the one that holds the largest blame, even more than Mac.

>>713942474

>>713942382
They wanted the CoD audience.

It's honestly really tough to decide now. When I was younger I would always say ME1, having played it when it came out, being a huge influence on the things I liked I was so fond of it.

But replaying 1 today, honestly I think 3 is the best game. Yes, everyone hates the ending, I get it. There's plenty of flaws with 3 but as a complete experience it's the best, especially if I include the multiplayer which was a blast to play back in the day with other people.

1 is special to me because of the atmosphere, the music, but the flaws of the game are very deep. There's so much lazy asset re-use in the game, the planets are barren and some have a nice atmosphere to them sure, but they are barren and look like some intern just took a push / pull tool and randomly splattered it around a flat surface to make the terrain on each planet. Then there's the copy pasted bases on each planet, really low effort stuff.

Then again, the music in 1 and the atmosphere in general is so strong and so nostalgic to me that I still listen to stuff like this all the fucking time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JJo7D5YY3s&t=1029s&ab_channel=GamingAmbience

But 3 is the best overall game and I'm not afraid to admit it now. The gameplay is good. The story, outside of the ending being rushed is pretty solid too. Honestly, the ending has GROWN on me over the years too, I don't even mind it anymore and while it's lame how they did the ending, destroy is still great as is doing nothing, and the clip show at the end that they added in the update is pretty solid too. It's very hard to do an ending to any video game series and I understand why there are so many issues but I can forgive them after all this time. The rest of the game is fantastic, the citadel is fun. The main flaw of the entire game is obviously Kai Leng, pure fucking cringe and edge, as is cerberus in general in this game.

ME2 is a great game too, I like them all but I still think 3 is the best.

>>713942497
True. We basically agree on everything in that there really is no salvaging it at this point even with approach I suggested.

>>713942721
Just stop man. 3 is terrible.

>>713942879
I think there is an actual way out. I don't think Bioware will go that way, because it requires them giving a shit about what the fans took issues with, in addition to Bioware calling us too dumb to understand their artistic vision. But why would they do that? Why would they capitulate to gamers, of all people. That's just their consumer base. The plebs. They want Disney-Marvel, and when they get Disney-Marvel, they complain it's too Disney-Marvel.
That's probably what they think of us, anyway. Maybe they're right, I wouldn't know. But what they've been doing for 12 years now can't be right either.

>>713943175
No, it's my honest and humble opinion, it wasn't terrible and at its core it is the best mass effect game.

ME1 feels empty and boring in comparison. I get people that could argue ME2 is the best. Fine, I can see that but 1 has not aged very well outside of the nostalgia that I have for it.

Just look at the paper thin quest lines in ME1, think about Wrex's quest for his family armor for example, it's barebones as hell. Even Garrus's special quest is just boarding another identical cargo freighter and fighting some enemies until you get to the doctor, and you don't even need to bring Garrus or any other squad member on their loyalty quest. Tali as far as I remember is barely even a character in ME1, she just barely exists just sits at the bottom of the ship and there's a small amount of dialogue with her.

Just in terms of Dialogue alone, the only substantial character in ME1 is Liara. Ashley and Kaiden barely have anything to say, Wrex has even less, Garrus hardly anything except his singular quest.

Now, I love parts of Mass Effect, Noveria, Feros are both really fun and the atmosphere on those planets is fantastic. Obviously the overarching story with Sovereign is better than the other games as far as a basic plot, but the mystery of the Protheans is far stronger in that game too and kind of disappointing when they're just shown to be collectors in ME2.

>>713924923
Play the original.

>>713944056
>>No, it's my honest and humble opinion
Your opinion is to support
>Broken journals
>The most bugs in any game in the trilogy
>Infinite wave mechanics
>The useless weight system
>Kai Leng
>The worst level design in the trilogy
>The worst encounter design in the trilogy
>The worst writing in the trilogy
>Not being able to holster your weapon
>The worst Normandy in the trilogy, with in-level loading screens, to pass a fucking door
>The even worse treatment of Jacob
>Fighting Cerberus for 70% of the time, during the Reaper War
>The worst Reaper fight in the franchise
>The worst skill tree in the trilogy
>Eavesdrop quests
>Sidelining one of the best casts in RPG and video game history
>The worst ending in the history of video games
Your humble opinion means jack shit, bro.

>>713944392
I liked it, you seem mad. I'm not changing my opinion and neither are you so we're at an impasse.

>>713944495
I am mad. ME3 killed Mass Effect. Why aren't you mad?

>>713944298
Man, the original on the right looks so much better.

>>713944392
>>The worst skill tree in the trilogy
That's delusional. It is objectively better than 2's.
>>Sidelining one of the best casts in RPG and video game history
That was 2's fault for introducing far far too many new companions for no other reason than to pad out it's own story with personal side quests. The game already conceded in the second installment that they had no interest in actually bifurcating the story in any meaningful way based on your decisions, because it would take too much work. Why introduce a ridiculous amount of new companions if you were never going to be able to meaningfully account for their possible deaths in the suicide mission with the following game?

>>713944590

>>713944663
>Liara as a companion again
That kills 3 by itself.

>>713944574
Yes, ME3 did kill ME by being the conclusion of the series. If kill you mean "muh ending" then you can fuck right off, cry baby faggot.

>>713944735
>225x225
That looks huge on your phone, doesn't it?

>>713944826
The whole game was full of embarrassing shit, not just the ending.

>>713944663
>>That's delusional. It is objectively better than 2's.
Worse than 2's. Giving meaningless 2nd options doesn't make it good, it just means that you have no idea what to do with them.

>That was 2's fault for introducing far far too many new companions
Why is that a problem? It introduced too many good new companions, so you could only afford to use 2 of them and one of those two for the last 1/3 of the game alone. And even out of the ones that people wanted from 1, Wrex was still not on the team. No, ME3 is at fault for not using the good companions the franchise had, and instead wasting resources on Traynor, Allers, Copeland and the other bitch that I forget her name, Steve, Vega and robot EDI. Nobody gives a shit about these people. Why are you even wasting money and time implementing these people? It's all ME3's fault.

>>713925719
>Anyway is it just me or are Liara's tits bigger in LotSB/3?
she has Early Onset Matriarch Syndrome

>>713944826
It's always ME2fags. They will never accept their favorite game as the poisonous seed that doomed the series. ME3 had a rushed development like the other games, except it actually had to conclude all of the stories. Unfortunately ME2 spent the majority of it's runtime solving familial issues for useless characters instead of progressing the narrative and setting up a final act.

>>713945004
ME2 was the best game. Don't blame better things for other things being shit.
>it's totally the 5090's fault that my 560Ti can't play modern games

>>713944939
You can use all the companions from ME1 except Wrex and the one who died in ME2. Both of the ones missing were caused by ME2. Go complain about that game.

>>713944826
>Yes, ME3 did kill ME
That's all that needs to be said.

>the conclusion of the series
The series that concluded and got a 2017 sequel, and is getting a 2029 sequel, huh? For a franchise that ended, Bioware sure doesn't seem able to stop making games in it.

>If kill you mean "muh ending"
While the ending was the shit cherry on top, it was also
>Retiring the cast
>Ending the genophage arc
>Putthing the Citadel over Earth
>Ending the Geth/Quarian conflict
The franchise has nothing going for it. It's over. ME3 did everything wrong.

>>713945004
Yeah but 3 is still worse.

>>713944298 (You)
>Man, the original on the right looks so much better.

>>713945134
>You can use all the companions from ME1 except Wrex and the one who died in ME2
The two ME1 companions that can die in ME2, are back to squad capacity in ME3, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>713945215
Your reaction to what I said?

>>713937410
I will never make an EA account

>>713945204
I was more disappointed with the Normandy and my crew being destroyed in an intro cutscene. I was more disappointed with my Akuze survivor Shepard being forced to work for and take orders from a terrorist. I was more disappointed with the entire narrative of the first game, you finding and exposing the imminent reaper threat to the citadel council, becoming negated and pointless. Anything wrong with 3 pails in comparison to that.

>>713945482
Yeah all of that sucks, but 3 is still worse.

>>713945482
>>I was more disappointed with the Normandy and my crew being destroyed in an intro cutscene
One of the best scenes in the franchise, btw.

With mods, 1 > 3 > 2
Best way to play the trilogy IMO is to transfer a save from OT1&2 into LE3. Legendary edition deviates too much from the lighting and visuals from the originals for my taste, and mods like MELLO don’t do enough to restore the original look, but 3 is largely identical between the two.
LE3 is better for modding since you’re no longer capped at 4GB of memory, which caused a lot of crashing in modded OT3, and obviously cause the OT modding scene is dead.
IMO 3 is the only game in the trilogy that warrants modding to try to fix Bioware’s mistakes, the other two are fine as is, but mods are a nice bonus.

>>713945275
Right and the only companion from 1 you can't have in ME3 is Wrex. Who was forced into being an important leader of the Krogans on Tuchanka in ME2.

>>713941371
>nooo hot blue alien babe please dont fuck me ahhhh I can't possibly say no to you
faggot

>>713945586
ME2faggot is someone who basedjaks at Star Wars trailers.

>>713945435
You don't actually need one, which is weird. My EA client is never logged in (but sadly, it has to be installed), and I can play.

2, I would say 1 if rocket launchers didn't instakill you

2 > 1 > 3
I don't care if 2 wasn't the best narratively to have as part 2, it was a good game.

>>713945673
She's not hot. She's a member of a race where she's the one ugly duckling that will never be a swan. There are much better asari.

>>713945634
Meanwhile, you can't have
>Miranda
>Jacob
>Thane
>Grunt
>Samara
>Zaeed
>Kasumi
>Jack
>Morinth
>Legion
None. Not a single one of the ME2 introduced squadmates can be a companion in ME3.
The best squad in the franchise, btw.
Go cry somewhere else.

>>713924194 (OP)
3 The multiplayer was so good that I'm willing to forgive whatever other flaws it may have had. I've haven't played the others in nearly a decade but I still keep coming back to that one for the MP. Omitting it from the temastered trilogy was a huge mistake and ruined the best thing ME3 had going for it

>>713927359
>Andromeda is a meme
I think Andromeda is way better than 2 and 3 and closer to 1 in my ranking.

>>713945745
What are you even talking about?

>>713945959
Uh...uh huh. I'd love to hear why.

>>713945939
ME2faggots having a meltdown when the story tries to actually progress and let you play a character instead of introducing a new character and their own personal problems every hour.

>>713945820
They're all hot, they arr rook same.

>>713945959
I mean, it is a parody at the levels of Airplane, so maybe.
It's the Spaceballs of Mass Effect.

>>713946006
You exclaiming how amazing a cinematic cutscene designed to appeal to 80 iq game journalist is, despite the damage it did to the narrative and roleplaying elements of the game.

>>713945673
Kek

>>713946097
What story bro? You put a giant dragon dildo on the Citadel, so you can have a light party, that gives AI epileptic seizures.
After you spent 90% of the game doing fetch quests and busy work, while fighting Kai Leng and Cerberus.
It's not even a game! It's a travesty!

>>713945959

>>713946209
>One of the best opening scenes in all of gaming
>No, it appeals to 80is bigots, you're just coping
You can have your opinion, and I can laugh at you for having it.

>>713945820
Totally with you, bro. I don't understand how people don't get this. Look at the hambeast they modeled her face after.

>>713946338
That human reaper pay off was super awesome, it was a great pay off for that dramatic opening scene.

>>713946382
>thinks that helps his argument
The problem is Jillian Murray is fucking hot, but they made a goblin. The same applies to Miranda and Diana Allers. Yvonne Strahovski is a 15/10, and Jessica Chobot is a high 7 at the least. The result is a goblin. Other great examples:
>Aloy
>Quiet

>>713946456
Best Reaper fight in the franchise. What have you got?

>>713946559

>>713946618
Not an argument.
If you mean to say that all Reaper fights are bad, and can't be done well, then maybe making the Reapers the big bad of the franchise was a bad idea to begin with.
And that's ME1's fault, not ME2's.

>>713946714
I think the criticism was more about how pointless the ending of ME2 was and how I learned nothing new or interesting. Not the mechanics of shooting a human reaper. ME2 lack of a plot is not an argument against what ME1 setup, only a condemnation of what ME2 did.

>>713924872

>>713924194 (OP)
ME2, there has never been another game that has come close to the suicide mission. Everything from the music, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyofzTevMEU to the high stakes and how you could potentially fuck it up so badly made this one of the greatest gaming experiences of all time. Stellar cast, top notch voice acting, combat was solid and the story was a masterpiece.

>>713946859
>I think the criticism was more about how pointless the ending of ME2 was and how I learned nothing new or interesting.
What new and interesting did you learn from ME3? In retrospect, what new and interesting did ME1 introduce? Nothing.
Some retards made retards that went berserk and keep killing people every 50k years, forever. That's all Mass Effect was ever about. Take the characters out and nothing matters. And the best ones were in ME2. And you didn't even put them in ME3. And then you retired them!
This is how to ruin a franchise 101.

>>713938258
It's going to take a while.

>>713947057
>No actually the game that created an entire universe full of aliens and conflicts was boring! What was really cool was punching Jacob's dad for deserting!
ME2fags are truly embarrassing.

>>713924923
I never bought it but I did see a video that they actually fucked up a lot on the visuals. You might want to check that out before considering getting it.

>>713947208
If that were true, the franchise wouldn't have collapsed after ME3.
But it did.
So patently, you're incorrect.

>>713946123
I didn't play it when it was released so I didn't get all the funny bugs.

>>713947185
How much of that is "I went to steamdb and ran that script to dump free shit in my library?" I'm still cutting all that shit down.

>>713946026
Because it has a similar structure to 1 and an actual plot, unlike 2. The gameplay is quite fun, too.

>>713947352
Watch PewDiePie's video, Dunkey's video and Crowbcat's. There's also several funny glitch compilations, but those aforementioned three are peak kino.

Stop being antisemitic and just buy the super mega legendary remaster edition.

>>713947505
Want me to suck your dick, skipper?

>>713947667
You know it!

>>713947667
Stay with the bomb, Ash.

>>713947718
Kaidan's already dead before that.

>>713924194 (OP)
Mass effect 1 for exploration
Mass effect 3 for combat and companions (citadel DLC carried hard)

1 > 3 > 2
2 feels like filler in the overall.

>>713947667
We'll bang ok?

>>713924923
it's good, but you need to install the Restore Miranda Butt Shots mod because they removed the camera angles in cutscenes that focused on her butt.

>>713947856
I insist.

>>713948053
You literally have photo mode to get the best angles possible.

>>713947903
this thread proves 2>1>3

>>713946246
>glorified DLC dickrider says anything else is pointless busywork
LOL, me2 is literally inconsequential in every way possible, it does nothing to advance the plot. you can literally skip that game entirely and it makes no difference storywise, in fact it makes it less retarded.

>>713948229
ah a man of culture i see

>>713948286
No.

First one because it felt like such a cool new sci-fi universe, second was perhaps the most fun however, third was rather forgettable and that ending killed my interest in the series

>>713948295
>it does nothing to advance the plot
What plot? There is no plot! There never was a plot! Stop the Reapers is not a plan, when you have nothing to stop the Reapers, and no leads of where to find something to stop the Reapers. How are you going to find something that stops Reapers, in a galaxy that you've explored less than 1 fucking percent!? You didn't even play the games!

>>713948229
Holy cope. One does not and should not replace the other.

>>713948412
Then you didn't read the thread.

>>713948486
I did. You didn't.

>>713924194 (OP)
Have to go with 2, as stupid as it was in other respects, it had much better interaction with the crew, which is the main draw of these games.

>>713924923
Playing them recently--ME1's lighting is a lot worse. ME2's lighting was mostly fine. ME3 seems to have constant tiny little glitches in conversations but I feel like the original game was probably already like that and I didn't notice. Gameplay is mostly much better in ME1 LE. I think it's pretty much the same in ME2 LE but you run out of ammo less I think. ME3 LE generally is as well, but got rid of the online integration for the EMS meter. I know 2 and 3 had some bugs fixed that resulted in some save choices finally being imported properly, meaning they technically restore content compared to the original releases. So it's not a "soulless demaster" like some claim.

The biggest change I disliked was actually the way they standardized male Shepard's face between games. I liked that he looked younger in ME1 because of the slightly more simple textures. It makes sense that he would age rapidly from the stress of the Reaper war by ME3. (No comment on Femshep because I never played her but I believe they made her ME3 design the default in 1 & 2 which if so, is an improvement.)

>>713948530
I'm half the fucking thread.

>>713948435
Sorry. I'm using photo mode to fap to banshee tits and you can't do anything about it.

>>713948749
What made you think I want to do anything about it?

>>713948609
Well, that's just proof that this thread proves nothing.

>>713924194 (OP)
1, very pleasing to experience for the first time and had mystery to it.
Afterwards I'd say 3 with all the expansion dlc, then 2.

I personally didn't like the heavy leaning towards it being a shooting/gears of war-like action game, and I thought the final boss was the weakest part of the whole trilogy. I wanted Reaper stuff the whole time, pretty much. still fun af though, didn't spoil the trilogy as a whole for me.

>>713924194 (OP)
I will never play one without playing the remaining two so it's a pointless question

I can't believe people say 2's story is bad. The meat is simply in the loyalty missions rather than the few "main" plot missions. The emphasis is just placed differently, and results in a game with a unique structure compared to 1 and 3. I really like that it had a more personal and humorous touch compared to the colder first game, but 1's narrative is still very cool.

3's overall narrative is easily the worst. The opening and ending are fucking weird, and the middle 70% of the main story is mostly solid but the writing throughout the whole game is just...off, whether you're talking about the absurd amount of contrivances or the more cliche military blockbuster dialogue. Shepard going on about how he's "just a soldier" when he spent the first two games going way beyond the call of a mere grunt...and there are just a lot more corny "Hollywood" reading lines. Like along the lines of "You have something I need." or "But that's when the dark ones came." The first game had a very sci-fi feel, the second game still did but took it in a different more modern feeling direction, but the third game loses the sci-fi writing altogether.

>>713949000
Claiming something with nothing to show for, just makes you look ignorant.

>>713949124
>I personally didn't like the heavy leaning towards it being a shooting/gears of war-like action game
This is literally all three games.

>and I thought the final boss was the weakest part of the whole trilogy. I wanted Reaper stuff the whole time, pretty much
The Reapers were the worst parts of the ME trilogy.
You thought the final boss of ME2 was the weakest part, but not Kai Leng, or the Reaper fight on Rannoch.
You expect people to respect your opinion with views like that?

>>713939861
>1 had the best combat

What sort of retard do you have to be to think this?

> Awful bullet bloom
> spongey enemies
> engineers will stop you shooting for 10+ seconds
> no dedicated cover button so it feels clunky
> movement is floaty

I love ME1 but the combat is something you endure to enjoy the rest of the game, much like dragon age origins

>>713948579
>I liked that he looked younger in ME1 because of the slightly more simple textures. It makes sense that he would age rapidly from the stress of the Reaper war by ME3.

playing 1 for the first time is one of the best gaming moments ever

>>713949185
Are you talking about yourself here?
If you are half the thread, then it's just one guy saying the same opinion over and over again.
Your opinion is correct simply because you keep saying it. That's why I said it proves nothing.
Half the thread is just one guy.

>>713949352
I feel like the 3 complexions for male shep work perfectly for

Relatively unscathed (me1) > experienced (me2) > completely wartorn (me3)

>>713949393
>Your opinion is
Sorry, Your opinion isn't

>>713949393
An opinion is proven incorrect, when someone can argue against it. If you can't refute it, then it isn't incorrect. Like here >>713947338
Which is irrefutable.

>>713949363
I heard music in my dreams for the first time in my life because of the soundtrack.

>>713949475
>An opinion is proven incorrect, when someone can argue against it.
You can argue against any opinion, making no opinion correct.

>>713949591
An argument, of course, would need to be valid.
If the argument isn't valid, you didn't argue against anything. I would assume that goes without saying.

>>713925970
Valid take pussyboy

>>713949663
>An argument, of course, would need to be valid.
No, it doesn't + Moving the goalpost.

>>713949513
>vigil starts playing

>>713949779
>No, it doesn't + Moving the goalpost.
In that case, would you argue in favor or against eating shit being healthy? And why?

>>713949513
>didn't have dreams with this in it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW1EXh2F9Vk

>>713950020

>>713950226
So you can't even make an argument.
I accept the concession.
2>1>3 confirmed.

>>713950312
No.

>>713950339
cry moar
git gud
skill issue

>>713950437
>>713950339

>>713950553
Yes.

>>713950312
Still irrefutable.

>>713949328
tbf this is coming from memory, I've yet to touch the LE of the trilogy.

>This is literally all three games.
I guess it was the switch to those thermal mags in 2 that did it for me. It definitely felt like the bionics and shooting in 1 gave it a sort of unique identity beforehand.

>Kai Leng
Omg yeah I remember that guy lol. I thought he was corny as fuck back when I played it in 2012, ngl. Especially with that message he sends.

>Reaper fight on Rannoch
I had to rewatch this to even remember it. I think there were some missed line deliveries here and there, but I still think that's better than the giant human robot in retrospect.

>>713950680
Yes, it is. I refuted it.

This one awaits the coomer posting

>>713950739
>I still think that's better than the giant human robot in retrospect.
I don't respect your opinion.

>>713950787
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=hanar

>>713950834
that's okay buddy

>>713950312
Still irrefutable.

>>713950787
Great, now you've done it, non-zero chance fags start linking SFM futa asari with horse cocks.

>>713950949
No, it's not okay.
I think you're a fucking retard if you prefer Kai Leng, and playing laser tag with a Reaper over actually fighting a Reaper, which is objectively the best Reaper fight in the franchise, even if it is one of the worst fights. I think, and I encourage you, to kill yourself.

>>713951049
Just as this one planned.

>>713951049
Still not sure how people can find that shit anything but revolting

>>713950995
Yes, it is. I refuted it.

>>713951080
Okay that's very drastic, you got some sort of big skelly fetish going on?

>>713951090
You risk madness going around asking questions like that. The answers are better left unknown.

>>713951145
No, I just hold you and people like you, personally responsible for everything wrong with the gaming industry in the past 13 years.

>>713951049
>mass effect porn
>just cuck/racebait/futa shit

>>713950312
This post will be gold plated and stickied in /v/ for all eternity.
A timeless truth.

>>713951248
Thats all rule 34 porn, fool.

>>713951209
>He says while defending Mass Effect 2. The biggest normie slop game ever devised and emblematic of EA's eradication of niche rpg's.

>>713947505
does it look that bad with HDR on?

>>713951603
Mass Effect 2 is one of the best video games of all time.
Go play some ME3MP slop.

>>713924194 (OP)
ME2 for sure lil unc.

>>713951623
HDR can't magically change textures, shadows, or illumination implementation.

>>713924194 (OP)
They're all terrible except for 3's MP.

>>713951703

Mass Effect 1 is my favorite. 2 is my least liked. Mass Effect 2's combat is unfinished, and the companions don't matter outside of Garrus and Tali. Even James Vega is more relevant to the overall plot. All ME2 has is companions and most of them suck despite having more writing dedicated to them. ME3 completes the combat from ME2 and trims down the squadmates to those that matter, with Vega being an odd addition due to the poorly thought-out ending to ME2.

>>713951603
>ME1
>Niche RPG

>>713952040
I know that it's a Saturday night in NA, but are all the chads out fucking, and we're left with only the plebs to fill this thread?
Vega is important? Diana Allers is more important than Vega. She gives you war points.

>>713952243
Vega is more important because he solves the problem of ME2's poorly thought-out ending.

>>713951623
Get the COLOUR reshade mod for LE2 and LE3 plus the disavowed mod retexture for her face and she'll look even better than the original.

>>713952479
I love the idea that because of the SM, the ME2 squadmates couldn't return, like Garrus and Tali, for example.
Oh, right.
Well, it was because of how hard it was for those two to die, right?
Except the only more likely to die in the SM than Tali, was Kasumi.
Even then, both Miranda and Jacob had the highest survival rates than any other character in the game. So why are we getting Garrus and Tali, instead of Jacob and Miranda?
Because Bioware lost a bunch of talent, got lazy and didin't want to put the work, which is reflected in every aspect of ME3.

i like 1 becuase im an autist who stares at the environments. i like the reminders to the kotor series and i have a taste for the music that sounds like Tangerine Dream

>>713924194 (OP)
Mass Effect 1.
Mass Effect 1 has the best vibe.
Mass Effect 2 has the best missions.
Mass Effect 3 has the best gameplay.

>>713952989
>Mass Effect 3 has the best gameplay.
Gunplay. It has the best gunplay.

>>713951846
is that xbox?

>>713952989

>>713953030
what's the difference?

>>713953072
No this is Anonymous.

>>713953089
The gunplay/shooting makes a very big portion of the game, but it isn't what makes Mass Effect as a whole and, overall, is a very small part of what makes Mass Effect. Gunplay doesn't take other important aspects of the gameplay in mind, like level design, encounter design, dialogue choices, of which 1 of the three was removed in ME3, the worst journal implementation in video games, ever, and a whole lot of other issues, that impede on the game's overall gameplay.
If pointing a gun and shooting is all that matters for gameplay, then hands down, Andromeda had the best one. But Andromeda is also the worst Mass Effect yet. So patently, there's more to gameplay than just the gunplay.

>>713952682
>I love the idea that because of the SM, the ME2 squadmates couldn't return, like Garrus and Tali, for example.
>Oh, right.
But he exists because they may not be alive. That makes him more important. You can blame the devs all you want, but that doesn't change the facts. Vega was their method of solving a problem of their own creation instead of reusing ME2 exclusive squadmates. That made a decision to only include ME3 original characters or characters that got their start in ME1 as squadmates. Makes sense with ME1 being the best and ME2 being the weakest link. ME2 is more of a TellTale version of ME.

>>713953450
>>But he exists because they may not be alive. That makes him more important
Why? I think his existence makes him less important. He's just there, because Bioware chose an easy way out. He's just there, because Bioware skipped out on the consequences. Did you know that one of the reasons Mass Effect got its name, was because the decisions you made in the game would have a massive effect in the game? How about having consequences for not keeping enough people alive to finish the fight? Nah, here's Vega. A stand-in for your assumed incompetence, because fuck consequences for your actions.

>>713953631
As I said, ME2 was poorly thought-out. I'm glad we agree. If ME2 was better, Vega wouldn't exist.

>>713953631
>Did you know that one of the reasons Mass Effect got its name, was because the decisions you made in the game would have a massive effect in the game?
They gave up on that idea at the beginning of 2. The most you will get are interchangeable characters that will show up for one scene in each game to denote your decisions. The game is hyper linear in it's entire narrative and scope over 3 games. Saving the council or not changes a few lines in 2. As does the Rachni.

>>713953828
>They gave up on that idea at the beginning of 2
I fail to see how.

>>713953824
I think ME2 was thought out perfectly well. I think Vega robbed ME2 of a lot of it, though. I absolutely believe that not keeping people alive through the SM should leave you with a failed state at some point in ME3. If you disagree, you're the reason ME is dead. You never understood what ME was about.

>>713953987
>I fail to see how.
The entire beginning of 2 is a contrived method to reset the story, and thus not continue from where the first left off. If they had continued from where Mass Effect 1 left off, they would need to account for you saving the council and going off to research the Reaper threat as a famous and trusted Spectre agent.
Forcing Shepard to be dead for 2 years allows the writers to construct a new story where the council actually denies the reaper's and can't work with you because you work for a terrorist.
Again saving or killing the Rachni queen. A seminal decision that should have "Mass Effect" as you put it, has a completely meaningless consequence in Mass Effect 2.

>>713954220
There was no fucking story. Just a vague idea and Reapers.
Make your own ME2 for me, right now? You can't use Sheamus script. Go.

>>713954297
Shepard goes to Feros surface because of a tip he got from his Archeologist and Prothean savant friend Liara. They find an intact prothean bunker with a living Prothean. He teaches you about how they fought the reapers and thus you learn better how to prepare. You go to the various home worlds of the races like Palaven, Surkesh, Tuchanka, and help rally the races in preparation for the coming invasion. The game ends with the idea that you are the first cycle in countless billions of years who has adequately understood and prepared for the threat. The third game would be more about waging the battle and seeing your preparations pay off, and thus be better paced and more satisfying. The third game feels very rushed in how many plot threads it needs to conclude.

>>713953987
You can disagree all you want, but it doesn't change facts. ME2 is practically irrelevant. The devs thought so, and so do I. It seems like you are the one who doesn't understand what ME was about, considering you differ from the Devs. You just like ME2 to the point where you are blind to reality. Grass is red to you.

This thread proves that 2 is filler lol.

>>713954563
>>Shepard goes to Feros surface because of a tip he got from his Archeologist and Prothean savant friend Liara. They find an intact prothean bunker with a living Prothean
Gay. There's nothing Prothean in Feros. Also, the living Prothean thing is just so bad. Yes, the same goes for Javik. All Protheans should have been dead and extinct.

>He teaches you about how they fought the reapers and thus you learn better how to prepare.
The died to the Reapers. You can't prepare.

>You go to the various home worlds of the races like Palaven, Surkesh, Tuchanka, and help rally the races in preparation for the coming invasion
Help with what? Dying? Tuchanka is a demilitarized zone, as well. What issues does Palaven have? What issues does Surkesh have? None of these issues exist. Nothing of these are established. What do you have to do with anyone in any of those places?

>The game ends with the idea that you are the first cycle in countless billions of years who has adequately understood and prepared for the threat.
So you don't need to actually fight a Reaper War, meaning you gotta change ME3 entirely. In fact, ME3 can't even be a Reaper War.

>The third game would be more about waging the battle and seeing your preparations pay off, and thus be better paced and more satisfying. The third game feels very rushed in how many plot threads it needs to conclude.
The third game, realistically, is you doing anything but fighting the Reaper War, because you still haven't found a way to fight a kilometer long giant space death squid, when you're one dude with a shotgun.

>>713954610
Mass Effect 2 is the only good game in the franchise.
ME1 is only relevant in the fact that it introduces the franchise.
ME3 is only relevant in that it kills it.

Bitch really is reality lol. Fuckin' retard.

>>713924194 (OP)
Probably 2 overall for me but they each have their strong points. 1 had the world building and sense of discovery. 2 had the best squad and interactions. 3 had the biggest stakes and finale factor as well as a surprisingly great multiplayer

>>713955317
>There's nothing Prothean in Feros
The entire reason ExoGeni set up a colony there was because of the massive ruins of a Prothean megalopolis. That's what you're standing in throughout the entire mission.

>>713955317
Not only that but
>You go to these places
People think that you go to Palaven and just go to Night fucking City from Cyberpunk, in their mind. When in reality, the bigger the place they think they are going to, in a Bioware game, it's 2 corridors, 3 doors, or, if they're really ambitious, 3 corridors, 5 doors.

>>713955535
>>The entire reason ExoGeni set up a colony there was because of the massive ruins of a Prothean megalopolis. That's what you're standing in throughout the entire mission.
It's empty. All of it. There's nothing there. Liara alone, if she were to look for all of Theros on her own, would take years to find anything.
Asari couldn't find Starkid's server room on the Citadel, in two thousand years.

>>713940356
The issue with companions in the first game is that you had to micromanage equipment for all of them, and to access their inventory you had to go on a mission with them
It was extremely tedious and annoying, and it was better to just stick with two that complimented your build

>>713955884
>to access their inventory you had to go on a mission with them
...
You can go to their lockers and access their equipment from there.
They're right next to Ashley.
You can't have missed that.

>>713955019
If ME2 is filler, the non filler options suggested so far are far worse than the filler.
I'd take 50 ME2 fillter games, over 1 non filler ME3.

>>713925525
Anyone who doesn't think 3 is the best is just a contrarion faggot, which is your standard /v/ poster. I swear 99% of this board are the epitome of tech-hipsters.
>>713934368
The fuck are you talking about. Biotics in ME1 were total dogshit and getting environmental kills was a crapshoot. Powers were peak in 3 and how you can CC and use your environment plus shoot around cover is fucking masterful.

>>713955317
>being reductionist to point of just flat out lying & omitting entire plot points
So you're just trolling then?

>>713956538
I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>713956362
Sorry but putting all your points into throw and lift in ME1 and just tossing people into walls and out of bounds was absolute peak

>>713955646
Even then
>I'm the dalatrass' secretary, I'll forward your message
>I'm the primarch's secretary. I'll forward your message.
>Welcome to Tuchanka, we can't do shit.
What do you think is going to happen? Literally, less stuff to do than with Liara on Illium.

>>713924194 (OP)
2 if it mods out the global ability cooldown and the need for ammo.
Otherwise 1.

The first, of course
1>3>2

>>713956734
>The mind of a ME2nigger.
I guess it makes sense you guys love ME2 because you can't imagine anything interesting or good.

>>713940409
I bet they wish they could unrelease Andromeda lmao
By making they silhouette vaguely androgynous they are saying it all, again. Just like they did with Inquisition

>>713956946
When are you gonna stop?
All your ideas have been shit, why do you insist on this shit?

>>713956630
Thats proving my point. They were such dogshit that you had to max out 2 biotic skills to do that. In 3 you can do it with throw alone and just focus more on your positioning and the angle you hit the target from. You couldn't throw curveballs in 1 like you could in 2 and even more so in 3
>>713956619
Glossing over pretty much everything in regards to why you had to diplomatically recruit the other races. Pretending like there was no substance.
>What issues does Palaven have?
Line of succession in disarray, you gotta lock that down and secure their primarch so the Turian hierarchy doesn't just collapse leaving their people without a voice and their military to run around like a chicken with its head cutt off.
>What issues does surkesh/tuchanka have?
Being stubborn cunts gatekeeping the cure to the genophage/taking back their future without persisting in being bloodthirsty dipshits that will just need to get put down again
>I have no idea what you're talking about
It's like you're being intentionally retarded acting like you dont get why things are happening so it's just bad writing. No. You're just fucking retarded.

>>713924194 (OP)
ME1, not even a contest

>>713957076
There was not a single good weapon in ME1, they all felt like peashooter and the powers were dogshit. The only good thing was the story and most of that was just the fucking wonder of it being a new IP.

>713957229
oh he mad, boys

Those the game have the Towers of Hanoi? Then it's the best one.
Simple as

>>713957020
Again.>>713956734
>What do you think is going to happen?
Make the story. You had 15 years. Do something.

>>713957074
>Glossing over pretty much everything in regards to why you had to diplomatically recruit the other races. Pretending like there was no substance.
You needed to recruit the other races, because you were under attack, and there was urgency. Now, you are not under attack, and there is no urgency. Besides, what are you going to do that the STG, or whatever the Turians have, can't do for them?

>Line of succession in disarray
Never established. Who would do it, how would they do, in the hyper militaristic and very honor based Turian society? Why aren't they already blown to Palaven's moon?

>secure their primarch
One escort mission? That's 90% of a game right there.

>Being stubborn cunts
Riveting. That's another 90% right there. You got 2 games almost.

>It's like you're being intentionally retarded
You're intentionally retarded, for suggesting shit ideas, that are either non issues, or continuity breaking.

>>713955317
>The third game, realistically, is you doing anything but fighting the Reaper War
It's like you think you can arbitrarily just decide what defines "War" as if, if it doesnt result it a tit for tat battle of big ship vs reaper, then it doesn't qualify as a war. That's stupid.

>>713957547
Because fighting billions of husks makes it very transparent that this isn't a fun game. It's why Bioware had you fight anything but Reapers for 70% of ME3. It's by design.

>>713957464
>more reductionist bullshit
Bro, just admit games with story elements are too much for you and go back to some hack'n'slash or souls shit where there is no explicit story to be understood so you dont have to think too much. Post like this make it obvious your dumbass has never voluntarily read a book for enjoyment in your entire life.

>>713924194 (OP)
1 was good but the animations are really bad
2 improved the animations but cratered everything else
3 was a continuation of 2 with no improvements but it was already at the bottom so it couldn't go lower

>>713957659
Everything is reductionist bullshit to you.
It's not a good game idea.
You failed.
Deal with it.

>>713957648
>implying those arent reaper forces
>missing the point that the story is about getting what you need to complete the weapon to wipe out the reapers because the whole fucking point is that they're on such another god damn level that only the thing that is a collaborative effort of multiple cycles has a chance of getting it done.
Bunch of fucking retards in here that legit wanted it go down like how the protheans tried to do it lol.

>>713957704
You're a retard and can't appreciate good story.
Deal with that.

>>713957764
>>>implying those arent reaper forces
Yes. And they're infinite. Which will make it increasingly transparent that you are not making any real progress in the war, which is not fun. Which is why you don't fight the Reapers in ME3.

>>713957821
>You're a retard and can't appreciate good story.
You're a retard that legit thought he had a good story. That's the reality.

Always wondered why they specifically killed this guy in the first minutes of 2.

>>713959943
He was a space racist.

More serious answer is that he was really the only other named Normandy crewmember beyond Chakwas so they killed him off to make the Normandy's destruction more meaningful.

>>713924194 (OP)
I can only kill Tali in the third game so that one

>>713960073
This, they should have killed off a squad member as well

Not even that armor can save him.

1 > the rest
Anything else is just bait.

>>713960486
it would actually be an interesting mechanic if they did kill 1 of your surviving squad mates instead,but its random and not pre determined or maybe your least used surviving squadmate

>>713924923
no edi camel toes

1 > 2 > 3

>>713960704
>least used
Most used, and the least used doesn't link back up with you. Liara exemption for obvious reasons.

>>713960486
>ME2 opening kills off Ashley/Kaidan so the choice matters even less
This is so BioWare I'm shocked that it didn't happen

>>713960895
No one cared about either so it was easy
Ashley always gets virmired because here skills are nothing special

>>713960969
I always Virmire Kaiden because I cannot fucking stand the reminder of Carth's constant mistrust in Kotor.

It would be great if Ash/Dan got killed at the start of ME2. All of the human companions suck (except Jack but she's bald)

>>713961069
Funny thing is they copy pasted Carth into Thane, fuck that dying fish faggot with the dead wife and delinquent son

>>713961120
I often forget Thane even exists

>>713961151
it's landwale bait, tehy were mad there were sexy blue women so they memed sexy green men into it

Can video games ever make, produce, craft, whatever you want to call it, something as incredible and life changing as this single piece of music ever again? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV1pPgpcAVw

>>713961120
I don't hate him or anything but what's even the usecase for an assassin for a mission like that? You'd think the vents might be the one but no. Same with Kasumi. 2 has too many characters. Remove Thane, Kasumi, Grunt, either Jack or Samara and in return give the other characters way more conversations.

>>713961554
Muh 12 apostles avenger capeshit slop

>>713960073
A *curated* space racist, too.
2 or 3, Cerberus bad!

>>713924194 (OP)
1 is the best. It was not without flaws, but the rpg mechanics and open world away missions structure should have been the focal point. 2 has a fantastic story and characters, and 3 has some ok parts and a fun pve mode. But ME1 is the highpoint of bioware. It was all downhill after.

Been playing the LE and damn the first one has not aged well. The story set up is also very weak. Shepard has a vision that everyone just immediately accepts instead of saying this nigga trippng wtf?

Putting the skills from 2 and 3 into 1 is pretty fun.
https://www.nexusmods.com/masseffectlegendaryedition/mods/2467?tab=description

>no Geth Armory armor for humans
eeh
How'd Krogan get it, Virmire special commissions?

people dickride ME2 to no end, but the change in focus from the reapers to the collectors is so strange when the first game just got done etablishing that the former is an extinction level thread that needs to be dealt with urgently.

>>713961780
It's only natural that the Reapers have smaller forces around at all times.

>>713924194 (OP)
1 > 3 > 2

>>713961780
2 took a Saturday morning cartoon turn because of the new writer who wanted the threat to have foot soldiers you can fight and the ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL I KNOW YOU FEEL THIS SHEPARD bullshit but ended up doing away with a final boss in 3 becasue it's 'too videogamey'
Mac Walters is an idiot

>>713924872
I've always wondered, is the planet stock image in this wallpaper?

>>713945820
Aria is garbage, Petrovsky did nothing wrong, other than letting them all live.
Imagine looking down on Liara but liking a woman that actually employs Batarians, I'd have you executed by a firing squad.

>>713946123
Airplane was funny. Spaceballs was an actually finished story.

>>713962680
>can't betray aria for turianussy

>>713960969
I always Virmire Kaiden because Ashley at least has a family waiting for her back home. And she has bigger tits in 3.

Plus it saves him from they did to him 3.

>>713946485
>Yvonne Strahovski is a 15/10
Miranda Appreciator is unnoticeable.

>>713962830
Kaidan got his mom. She's pretty damn hot

>>713962892
I should rewatch them

>>713962830
>And she has bigger tits in 3.
Aren't they the same?
Are there any comparisons of her nude model in 1 and 3?

>>713924872
3pbp

>>713946382
She looksf fine. Now Sarah Ryder model vs face scan result, that was bad. It's not at that restoration of Christ wall mural meme, but damn.

>>713962830
They bimbofied Ashley because Miranda wasn't in the roster but then they gave EDI the thickest hottest body and it was ll for nothing
Why do I need two soldiers, fuck Ashley, sentinels are rare and great support squadmates

>>713962939
Dr. Chocolates

>>713963071
And that impressive cameltoe, don't miss that.
>then they gave EDI the thickest hottest body and it was ll for nothing
It boosts Joker's combat performance.

counting the dlc I'd say ME3 just because of citadel alone. I love them all but I barely remember much of me2 despite multiple playthroughs other than the suicide mission while every single mission of me3 is ingrained into my brain

>>713962971
All the nude bodies share the same model, but her boob armor is bigger in ME3. Just need the face mod to make her not look like a bimbo.

>>713963069
I accidentally the retard from Andromeda in Oblivion

>>713963074
LE lighting is unsalvageable.

>>713963231
Smegol Del Toro (female)

Honestly, I can't even rate 3 reliably. I was so disappointed with it that I never replayed it. Didn't play the DLC eitehr as a result, which I hear was pretty good. I did play the multiplayer for a bit though. It was actually fun.
Didn't even look at Andromeda beyond the funny vids made around the launch time.

>>713963228
Her face is not salvageable.

>>713963478
You hatin Ash?

>>713924194 (OP)
I used to love the series. Adored it. 1 is a fantastic space opera RPG with a decent cast, an intriguing story, and is dripping with atmosphere.
2 is an oddity in that the greater story is sidelined for character drama and fleshing out the universe. Don't care much for the Gears-style change to the gameplay, but it was functional for what it was.
3 pains me. Combat feels good with the modular weapon/weight system, but the AI is poor and most combat segments are flawed arena-style rooms with innumerable enemies until the plot dictates you've killed enough.
3's plot is also infuriating. I don't care about spacekid, Ceberus is a writer's pet plot device and can do anything and anything required, Shepard's ridiculous PTSD, every single fucking mission having an annoying and pointless ticking clock element... such a disappointment, man.
For example: on Tuchanka, Artimec Wing is flying in to the Reaper while Shepard and the Krogan convoy is on their way to the Shroud; they stop because the road is out (despite the convoy being rovers and this not presenting a problem). One of the fliers is struck by a laser and JUST SO HAPPENS to careen thousands of meters *right* into the convoy -- this is already an insanely low probability event -- and Shepard responds by yelling that this is a dangerous area and the convoy should get out of here. What about the road being out? The road crumbles and it means nothing. Why is it dangerous? The event was one-in-a-million, but the plot dictates that the player needs to feel the urgency of the task and to not think too much on any one thing. When you zoom out and divest yourself of what the game wants you to feel, most of the events and reasons crumble under the briefest scrutiny.
Everything involving Cerberus is an abomination; an abortion; an affront to all that is rational. Fuck me, I hate Mass Effect 3's plot, though admittedly I don't mind the DLCs.

>>713963517
Never liked her, soldiers are not that useful and her strong woman yet sensitive bullshit is tired
Plus she looks like a brazilian troon

>>713924872
Seth Green still has the SR1 on his twitter profile

>>713963525
>One of the fliers is struck by a laser
No actual laser weapons were ever shown in ME series. Call that pedantry, but that's actually a far more tiresome issue than the plot.
>an affront to all that is rational.
Stay classy, "rationalist".

>>713963613
The pedophile Seth Green is jewish and cringe

>>713963478
She's a space muttato like Anderson. ME wasn't going to have any white people initially because humanity got globohomo'd but eventually Bioware decided against it. Still, most ME1 NPCs are ugly as sin by design as a result.

>>713963698
Qrd?

>>713963715
Stop saying retarded shit for one in your life.

>>713963525
Yeah 3's combat is meaningless when the level design and enemy design is so ass.

Damn, the ME2fag is seething hard in this thread. Faggot is still mad that he couldnt play the best game (ME1) on his shit PS3 back in the day

what is the best class for insanity difficulty

>>713963870
Soldier

>>713963724
named by Isaac Kappy

>>713963870
Vanguard

>>713924485
This is the correct answer.

>ITT: Secondaries

>>713963886
but thats boring

>>713964058
For you

>>713963715
They aren't ugly, though. Just mullattos limited to some set of facegen patterns.
>ME wasn't going to have any white people initially
How far "initially" do you take it back? First book says that most sport a homogenized European-Hindu looks.
In game it's just Shepard, Miranda, and that's about it.

>>713945004
>SSV Daddy Issues

Alright, it's time to settle this once and for all.

Mako or Hammerhead?

>>713924194 (OP)
2.

It's the best one. Being a space cop and the world of Mass Effect were what made the series so cool. The Reaper plot was always garbage.

>>713945004
Introduced the cancer known as loyalty missions
The best playthrough was when I let them all die and ME3 played exactly the same

>>713964213
Seriously nigga? Mako. You already know it's Mako.
Hammerhead is fucking garbage. It plays like garbage, and it's dedicated missions are garbage.

>>713964213
Can't I have you both?

>>713964024
How the fuck can you be a Mass Effect secondary? There are three (four) games, all the side content is mediocre to dogshit, and its hardly a Youtube popular game like Persona or something.

>>713964213
Mako no question
>cannon
>machinegun
>3x zoom
>jump

>>713964263
One or the other, Anon.

>>713964213
Neither. I'm not retarded enough to pretend either were good.

>>713964223
>Being a space cop
You mean like ME1?
In ME2 you're a space terrorist, not a space cop.
Fucking ME2fags have zero brain cells.
>The Reaper plot was always garbage.
Yeah because of ME2 and 3. Not 1.

>>713964281
Legendary Edition

>Saren and Nihlus on Eden Prime, circa 2183

>>713964356
>I'm literally 2deep4u meatbag
Imagine being impressed by this writing.

>>713924194 (OP)
1 is my forever favorite mass effect game and then 2 was okay, but plot was just side quests, I didn't touch 3 because I deleted all mass effect saved by accident and yet, for some reason, I didn't felt regent at that time.

>>713964490
why is there so much gay fanfic of them

>>713949338
>exit mako
>lift enemies
>get under and throw enemies
>enjoy the team rocket moment

mostly, using powers was the oly way to play, and yes, the combat in that game was superior because you could do more with biotics than in the other games that reduced them to simple buff/debuff and CC

>>713964491
Sovereign isn't the *main villain*, Saren is. Sovereign is just a force of nature type of character and doesn't need much characterization, it's the threat itself that counts. Saren already has the characterization necessary for the main antagonist and is the perfect foil for Shepard.
Now compared to 2, where Harbinger is now the main villain, Shepard's arch nemesis for whatever fucking reason, and says "I know you feel this" and other dumb shit like he's personally seething over Shepard despite being an immortal god-machine.
2's writing is fucking retarded, stop pretending.

>>713936194
the original is a technical mess that shits itself if you run it on modern system

>>713964739
It's pretty easy to fix up. As opposed to LE which has flat out broken assets.

Mass Effect 2 was the last time /v/ actually liked a video game. The board was 75% ME2 threads and everyone was enjoying it. Not long after /v/ (and 4chan as a whole) turned into the contrarian shithole it has become. Can't remember what caused it. Doesn't matter anymore I guess.

>>713964650
I need to try that

Every.
Thread.

>>713964223
>space cop
You're not a cop, you're spec-op turned glownigger attack dog turned mercenary/privateer who doesn't even notice his reinstated spectre license.
Assuming you even bother to restore it at all in, in which case legally you're a terrorist but no one really cares. Really, you even wear their logos.
Even your on-board transponder on SR-2 announces that you're a proud public member of Cerberus community service.
Assuming Quarians didn't preemptively log you as Cerberus, which begets the question as to how do they know. Tali?

Shepard in 2 is a bureaucratic nighmare, the man cares about total amount of 0 (zero!) regulations, he just goes around from shop to shop, stocks up without any care for anything in the world and then
>Haha, Joker set the course, mission!
mass murders more people than your average spetznaz or SAS soldier in a few years and goes back to buy fish for aquarium.

>>713964814
ME2 was liked before 3 came out and exposed that they had no fucking idea what they were doing and 2 was a complete waste of time. It was retroactively ruined by 3.

>>713964732
>Sovereign isn't the *main villain*,
I didn't say he was. I said the Reaper plot was always garbage. Enjoy arguing with yourself since you aren't responding to what I actually say, idiot.

>>713964823
Can we get a 2025 update?

>>713964905
You didn't make an actual argument as to why the plot of ME1 is bad retard, you just made a strawman greentext out of a line of dialogue. Get real or shut the fuck up and stop replying.

>>713964965
>why the plot of ME1 is bad retard,
Again retard, I didn't say that. You are arguing with yourself you fucking schizo because someone said that liked 2 the most.

Get some help.

>>713965020
>"I said the reaper plot was garbage"
>"w-wait actually I wasn't the guy that said that"
Pathetic.

>>713965096
wow, you really are retarded.

>>713965214
This is just running away from the argument.
>"Reaper plot was bad"
And I replied by saying it was 2 and 3 that made it bad, not 1. Then I got hit with a greentext strawman that implied it was also bad in 1, which I refuted. Then commenced the faggoty backpedaling.

>>713964792
LE has the same fix as the OG
mods, and it has way way more and better mods than the OG now so yeah fuck it.

>>713965496
OG still looks better and doesn't have casualized ME1 gameplay. It is what it is.

>>713964823
Are you there bro and are you still mad

>>713924923
pretty good
the originals aren't worth shit anymore
>t. played them to death

Saren's entire plotline in ME1 is fucked from his first scene because Bioware was too retarded to give him both his models.

He's just this tricked out Borg fucker from go, no one questions it. Literally a fucking Geth arm grafted to his body while testifying he had nothing to do with the Geth attack. Climactic final confrontation dialogue is partly incoherent because Saren's talking about upgrades while Shep's going "look what they did to you " and he looks the exact same.

Thank God a modder fixed it.

>>713965447
You are the only one arguing. The Reaper plot was always trash and only impressed buffoons like yourself. You disagreeing is not a refutation. Especially when your opinion on Saren has literally nothing to do with my mocking of Soveriegn and the imbeciles who boast about how great the Reapers were in 1.

So yet again moron, you are arguing against yourself.

>>713924194 (OP)
1 then 3. Nobody but mongoloids likes 2

>>713939168
this looks even worse lol

>>713965542
yeah not really but okay bro

>>713939168
sovl
Execute all LEggers

I remember when Mass Effect 1 was literally baby's first rpg for Xbots. Now these kids are 25 and act like it was Baldur's Gate 2

>>713965994
you should stop taking your HRT it makes you go on schizo rants bro

>>713966013
It was. BW golden age was kino,

>>713945004
i don't know what it is with ME2fags and even RE4fags that are always pretending their games are perfect and not heralds of bad practices that they then shift onto the next entry to get free pass for everything.
I guess its because both are casualized streamlined entry of the previous game that allows tourists to hop in.

>>713947505
shalom

>>713965542
>casualized ME1 gameplay
ME1 always had braindead gameplay, LE just makes it less tedious.
Immunity in the OG version was a literal invincibility button even on Insanity AND it made enemies who use it incredibly tanky for no reason. It's nerf alone makes LE gameplay much better.

>>713964318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6QBqCNuB3g

>>713925487
holy shit that ass is huge

>>713964814
MIRANDA'S ASS!

>me2 has 10 squadmates without dlc
>5 of which have quests regarding daddy issues
What did the writers mean by this?

>>713965735
Just mod it bro

>>713924872
>worst gameplay
>worst locations
lmao no

>>713965735
>Literally a fucking Geth arm grafted to his body while testifying he had nothing to do with the Geth attack.
Stop noticing.

>>713967564
Brainlet opinion on both acounts

>>713924194 (OP)
Probably 2. Even though 1 had the best story, I will never be able to forget the copy&paste sidequests that game had and kept slapping me in the face with. At the very least that part of the game was made a LOT better in 2. Besides the shooting gameplay, even though I will never forgive them for removing the unlimited ammo thing from the first game.

>>713967564
>gameplay
It's not as involved as 2 or 3 but ME's combat has never been some cerebral in-depth system that requires a triple digit iq even on insanity and that includes 1. All 1 lacks is that flair and interactiveness of the latter games but really the gameplay never really changes. The locations, they are all good in each game and they don't really lack in any game.

>>713966095
>actual LE apologists
euuuggh

>>713944976
>no nipples
>no pussy
>meanwhile EDI gets a cameltoe
Criminal!

>>713924194 (OP)
I
HAVE WONDERED ABOUT YOU

>>713969221
WHERE WILL YOU BE
WHEN THIS IS THROUGH

>>713948229
>bucketfag
>makes excuses
>poor taste
Classic. You sound like people who say "you don't need a watch" in wristwatch threads.

>>713969284
IF ALL
IF ALL GOES AS PLANNED

>>713924194 (OP)
1 is my fav. Hated 2 because of the story and cast so I never played 3.

>>713940356
Why did they have Liara to pose like this?

>>713969675
Because she's posh

>>713969675
Clasping hands behind one's back is a normal pose for officers, concealing nervousness and appearing formal, get your mind out of your gutter.

>>713969284
>webm
kino like no other

now I want to replay 1 for the 7th time, I can't fucking do it

>>713969284
>the sheer disjointment in quality between the skybox and the map

>>713969426
WILL YOU REDEEM
MY LIFE AGAIN

MY LIFE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN

>>713970007
That's no sky, man! (heh)
There's no atmosphere!

>>713970048
oh hey, it's THAT swimming pool

>>713970143
aw shit now I need to edit it in

Will this be the new mass effect?

>>713970239
No.

>>713970239
No. The Expanse isn't interesting enough on its own, there's just a general lack of aliens apart from the protomolecule stuff. From what I hear there isn't even going to be any starship combat, which is basically half the allure of the setting because of how unique it is, apparently there'll be zero g though, so Dead Space esque sections.

>tfw watching babylon 5 after first having played ME and finding out where the kino plot came from

>>713970861
JUMP!

>>713970861
My nigga. Too bad the remake has been stuck in limbo for a while already, but on the other hand the original is still really fucking good despite being decades old at this point.

>>713955019
It's called a video GAME not a video STORY. Brainrot in this whole thread. This is the objective ranking
2>1=3

t. someone who's replayed both the originals and LE with femshep and sheploo, paragon and renegade, and pretty much every combination inbetween. The light in LE can be fixed but it still looks better than the originals unmodded. People give ME3 a lot of shit (deservedly so), but keep forgetting the tedious planet exploration (recolored empty space #43) if you want to 100 % ME1. Not to mention all the jank in ME1

>>713970941
>still
Games never become outdated. Only people's ability to play them changes due to reasoning too dipped in cross-comparisons.

>>713971082
>It's called a video GAME not a video STORY.
And you call others brainrotted?

>>713971170
not an argument you retard

>>713970048
>>713970143
The floor tiles were not cooperating with the clone tool so I phoned it in

>>713971242
The concept of [game] doesn't exclude any stories or plots, and has existed far longer than computer games do. Pedantry works poorly when you're a halfwit.

>>713969754
Okay then, why don't other characters do it?

>>713971423
>The concept of [game] doesn't exclude any stories or plots
it actually does, zoomie

>>713971512
Didn't you play the game? Liara is a shy scientist, young for an asari, not used to be around humans and it fucking shows in her autistic obsessiveness

>>713971512
They don't feel like it? Some people do it all the time, some rarely if ever. Hackett did it on occasion I think.
Come on, dude, they can't animate everyone the same way all the time, that's too cheap. Liara in 1 is yet unaclimattized, so it's a nice way to show her prim, stiffled academic nature.

>>713971623
She's shy arount humans, but not shy to go into lethal combat?

>>713971082
>hitler image
>retarded post
every time

>>713971543
>laughs in multi-millenia old war games and political narrative planning
Go play raw, stripped mechanic of "games", you literal autist.

>>713971667
all asari have biotics and fuck if I know man, she is literally the writers pet , she is good at absolutely everything
Javik telling her off in 3 was great

>>713971352
Wait, that pool...

One sad fuck calling every other post a retard for hours and hours. Autistic or a paid shill? You decide.

>>713971423
>as existed far longer than computer games do
these are the retarded people you're arguing with, /v/.
How long stories/plots predate games (if it even does) is completely irrelevant

>>713971646
Oh, so it's about...uhh... academic nature, is that right? Did I get it right?

>>713971082
>2 has good gameplay
speaking of brainrot. When I think of mass effect I don't think of marvel tier backflipping ninjas and discount gears of war combat.

>>713971846
or every other poster on /v/ is actually retarded and gets called out? Shocking I know

>>713971887
Why are you so fixated on something so petty

>>713971846
/v/'s average measured IQ is near the lowest percentile compared to other boards

>>713972037
>>713971771
Okay then, why does Miranda wears heels in combat?

>>713972138
2 onwards became capeshit style over substance, none of the 12 retards wear armor
Bioware did it for cosplay purposes too, armor is too boring

>>713972138
Combat heels that hail from the far future of 2010.

>>713971887
It's a combination of traits in all likelihood. It's Liaras first time dealing with actual serious people other than her mother and whatever Asari nobility she may have dealt with, and its top secret military and Council operation no less, on top-of-the-line military vessel she'd never be allowed on otherwise.
Her heart is probably jumpy all the time. Imagine such a young semi-sheltered but well-educated woman in such a situation, and then this Duke McOfficerson just calls you into conference room along with all sorts of other serious looking folks. She'd stand at attention, of-course, gotta look the part.

>neat an me thread
>90 percent of it is two retards fighting

>>713971976
>ME1 wasn't marvelesque
>ME1 didn't have wall cover
And now you're even trying to argue that ME1 has better gameplay than ME2, which is a whole new level of retarded contrarian

>>713971846
>>713972273
yeah, we heard you the 1st time. Now fuck off back to your safespace you low T beta, this is a ME thread

>>713972273
/pol/ has the best vidya threads before the janny comes in

>>713972353
>/pol
Insufferable place.

>>713971986
I need to know what type of cake that is before the thread dies
I had it once as a kid

>>713972230
All right, you've convinced me. I will now treat officer Mirandla Lawson with all due respect.
>>713972224
So sexy alien chicks (entire race of them!) were not actually capeshit style over substance?

>>713972379
you got baited hard, tranny

>>713972268
And her constant desire to... uhh... connetct with Shepard in some weirdly intimate way?

>>713970239
>most boring setting imaginable
lmao

>>713972379
/v/ is reddit lite
>>713972405
old trope, stop being obtuse you autist
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe

>>713972403
vietnamese honeycomb cake

t. ME2 enjoyer

>>713972281
ME1 is jankino, ME2 is a horrible Gears clone by devs who didn't know how to do that.
Subjectively 1 is just more fun because I can go around throwing people into space and what not.

>>713970143
Νο! Νοοοοοοοο! What did you do?????

>>713955019
>filler gane is actually the best
Rare but kino

>>713972554
Alright bro, have fun and save some crayons for the rest of the ME1 enjoyers

>>713972079
Considering the amount of people that simp for ME3, I have to agree.

>>713972543
Thank you
ME2 still sucks but not as bad as Andromeda

>>713964814
I always hated 2 and knew it was a step down from 1 in every way. Threads at the time were filled with casualfags spewing retardation 'i liked it because it was fun and the characters are cute, 10/10', and time has only proven me more and more correct as distance has soured most people on the appeal of the game. For the record, we will see the exact same thing happen to titles like baldurs gate 3. Likely not to the same extent, of course, because one of the core causes of ME2's popularity was the PS3 audience, but opinion will turn on that game as people move on from it and realize that nothing actually sticks out compared to any other title in the genre and the game is just a shiny coat of paint on a mediocre experience.

>>713972480
No, it has to have explanation within universe.

>>713972879
Prothean genetic engineering, did you play 3?

>>713972268
And not just military, but alien military, with aliens that appeal to her.
>>713972461
That's not a constant desire, that's an interest that rapidly grew into desire, that may or may not be fulfilled.
Shepard's pretty much a living legend in the making, right at her side, uprooting things left and right, getting things done.
And it was her that melded with him, to see a human with a prothean beacon in his head. It's only natural she'd be attracted really fast.
There was a semi-relevant screencap about Liara in 2/3 on the subject of her supposed OOC-iness.
Basically Liara got swooped by Shepard's presence and started to act like him.

>>713972931
I did play 3, but it was long ago. And it was before any DLCs.

>>713924194 (OP)
>no one posting blueberry
shit thread
also 1 > 3 > 2 > Andromeda

>>713972281
>here's a krogan bounty hunter and a archaeologist and some soldiers from your ship
Is way different than
>here's a super secret assassin who literally teleports behind people, is dying of space cancer but he's killing people for his family so it's all good

>>713972762
>history revisionism
yes, and it was 6 million and it really happened.
The only thing that went wrong was pandering to a wider audience due to greed. Most of the changes from ME1 to ME2 were good, a few were wrong. Could have been fixed in ME3 but it wasn't. ME2 is still better than ME1

>>713972982
it was day1 DLC lel
>>713972973
>>713973008
Liara is a creepy stalker and denying her gives me great joy

>>713973048
Why didn't my version have it then?

>>713972480
>/v/ is reddit lite
Nah. Reddit primarily differs from 4chan in its response to content, but the overall approach to compartmentalize interests into boxes of people is similar.
4chan just has more outspoken hate and retards driven by local cultural inertia, while reddit is a more overtly globohomo owned melting pot of tastelessness, absent of judgement as a whole. Plus overlap due to sheer poster circulation amount.

>>713973201
It was one line in the .ini file, 10 bucks

>>713973021
if only ME2 had the green goblin, then it would have been peak

>>713973213
>not realizing 90 % of reddit is psyop and bots
I only go there for the porn and even that is infested with psyop bots

>>713972973
Where did you even get that from? When I was playing it was like "cute blue girl" for me.

>>713973021
>>here's a krogan bounty hunter and a archaeologist and some soldiers from your ship
That doesn't hold even in 1.
Ashley is a child of Alliance military elite, albeit disgraced.
Garrus is top-tier maverick cop, parents too are high-up IIRC, but I don't remember whether 1 mentioned them. Either way he's pretty exceptional.
Wrex is Krogan royalty equivalent and old as fuck.
Liara is pureblood upper Asari society member for all intents and purposes.
Kaidan had unique upbringing as early human biotic.
Tali is the same as Garrus, but turns out she's pretty up high too.
It's a Bioware game, it's only natural.

>>713973254
Damn, I should try it now!

>>713973031
This isnt history revisionism. I was in the threads in 2011 telling you that you were wrong. And sure, there might have been ten people disagreeing with me for every one that agreed, but that is because ten posters were retards. Are you going to pretend that uncharted or re5 or killzone 2 didnt also have a thousand threads saying how they were among the great games of all time? Nextgen gamers, especially late-era ps3fags, were and are a fucking plague. For all the problems of modern 4chan at least /v/ regained the sense of taste. It lost in that era of the website.

>>713973451
It's easy to intuit from what is known about her, about Asari, and her situation. Liara is living a life straight out of novels.

>>713973565
And yet none of those are
>best thief in galaxy who can teleport, stealth, jump onto moving helicopters, hack into citadel security system and yet is a good person who only steals from evil human traffickers
Or
>literal genetically engineered perfect human who can actually, literally bring dead people back to life so long as she gets enough terrorist bux

>>713973048
>Liara is a creepy stalker
yup thats my wife alright

>>713973379
Even that? It's only natural and logical that THAT would be infested.
Porn itself is a psyop, always was.
It consistently affects brain physiology. Imprecise, nor very effective in specifics, but very robust in affecting groups and psyches.
If honeytraps work in field, why not have a passive infrastructure spanning entire planet? It clearly works.

>>713973604
It doesn't make it any more true if you keep repeating it.

>Are you going to pretend that uncharted or re5 or killzone 2 didnt also have a thousand threads saying how they were among the great games of all time
There might have been a lot of threads but uncharted and killzone 2 were laughed at on /v/ (along with all the sonybros)

>>713973794
you watch blacked
I watch forced fem forced chastity femboy porn

we are not the same

>>713973651
So you've made it up.

>>713973663
Au contraire. Wrex is a honorable krogan, Garrus can literally tell you that not all turians are the same, etc.
>>best thief in galaxy
Skillset and ambition to do so at such a high bar already kinda implies unusual mental character. Kasumi just happens to be moral, rather than immoral.
Come on, it's the usual formula.
>literally bring dead people back to life
That was among many implications about Mass Effect actual, real plot.

>>713973903
I watch neither, poster, and the two examples that you chose to write share same sources and same impetus, with the only difference that the former example you mention is rooted solely in evil, while the latter can be done without injustice or malice.
If you're trying to make any moral grandstanding, it will collapse under examination. Not this matter, no.

>>713973906
Are you taking the piss, or are you assuming there is literally no nuance to things? Are things happening just because?

>>713973960
I'm sorry you're a retard, but then again you're defending ME2 so I guess it makes sense

>>713974309
You just had to get in some insults before thread dies, hadn't you?

>>713924923
You have to mod it to fix fuck-ups and even after modding i'm not sure that it eclipses the modded originals