>you will never release a game before 2016 when it was guaranteed to sell a million copies and become a classic simply for existing due to no competition

No, instead you will release your masterpiece now and win millions of sales through your hard work and brilliant ideas.

>>713947732
Never happened

Realistically speaking, how hard is it to create a game?

>>713947786
Very simple if you're white

>>713947880
brown hands typed this post

>>713947769
Not with that attitude!

>>713947653 (OP)
>before 2016
more like 2014

you could make a literal piece of shit and become an instant meme

>>713948160
Yeah pre 2014 you could realistically (and did) know every single game coming out on steam and would buy every one that fit your interests

Now it's impossible

>>713947786
Flappybird like game can be done in a day. Really depends on the game.

>>713948284
You don't get it, I want to make a big, epic, rpg. The only problems are I can't code, draw, make music, or write a script. I also have no money, and have never worked hard on anything in my life.

>>713947786
You need someone doing code, or at least putting shit together in the game engine you have and build levels, multiple people doing artwork depending on how artwork heavy your game is, a guy doing audio (you can buy stock music/sfx if you don't know anyone).
And most of all you need an idea behind the game and know enough about games to realise if something in the game is not fun.

So unless you are good at music, art, code, game logic, maybe even writing, you need several people minimum.

Even then, your game will 99% depend on whatever the art guys can do, unless you have an idea as big as Tetris.

>>713947732
Fpbp

>>713948676
Type "game jam" into google and get thousands of one-dev results that prove this post wrong

>>713947653 (OP)
John Blow...

>>713948781
He means a game that isn't garbage

>>713947653 (OP)
Doubtful. This just means there is more trash being released than ever before.

this chart also displays third world internet access

>>713948945
Type "good game jam" into google instead of "shit game jam"
Easy mistake, you're welcome for the advice

>>713947653 (OP)
so what happened in 2019? is the only year when the number actually dropped from prev year

>>713948781
Can you not fucking read?
>So unless you are good at music, art, code, game logic, maybe even writing

>>713950069
Read the post you're replying to, it shows what you said isn't true

Yeah, indie game devs now need to work way harder to get even a hundredth of the glory. The indie industry is filled to the brim with games, which is great for customers and bad for developers.

>>713949594
In 2018 Valve said anything that's not illegal is allowed on Steam but extremely quickly altered that into anything the company doesn't find morally objectionable is allowed so it's possible a number of games got wiped out in that sudden change.
AI slop makes it so high now.

>>713951583
Games like Balatro and Undertale topped charts and made millions despite being simple, low-effort projects.

>>713950416
I'm not saying that single devs can't make good games, I'm saying that single devs would need to be good at music, art, writing, coding, and gameplay balancing, to make a successful game. Or have an idea like Tetris.

Even something low effort like Undertale has writing, gameplay, music, art, all there. Minecraft has fuck all except the good idea that makes everyone hooked, á la Tetris.

>>713951696
Undertale is from 2015, retard-kun. That's just on the cusp. A better example would be Omori.

Either ways, no one is saying good games can't make it. But the effort to even get into the dance is much higher now and even if you reach it, it's still down to luck and wherever you pierce through the zeitgeist.

I'm a successful youtube/nsfw animator (2d), been pondering how to make my game. The issue is that I really want to avoid scope creep, but I really want to tell a short story. Visual novel/rpg maker would be the best way to go, but I'd like something just a bit more engaging. Pondering if i should continue to learn more 3d or whether having low poly characters is just way too much work for a story/visual novel.

>>713947653 (OP)
This is cope
https://store.steampowered.com/app/439490/BLUE_REVOLVER/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/603960/Star_of_Providence/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/285440/Crimzon_Clover_WORLD_IGNITION/

name 10 financially successful games made pre-2013 and tell me how you would have made them with 0 budget as a solodev. i'm ready to listen.
this includes only using framework, engines, assets etc. made before 2013.
also tell me how you would have published, marketed and sold them in 2013.

>>713947653 (OP)
which of the 4329 games released in 2016 sold a million+ copies?

>>713947786
just a game - easier than ever, can be done in a matter of days
but making something good is never easy even in your mind

>>713951952
H-games are easy mode and the current virgin territory in pioneer game design. The quickest option is to take a simple game you know works, and make it porn. Porn Balatro, Porn Undertale, etc. Make it furry and you can 10x your Patreon income on top of that, especially if you're adding animations.

I'm unironically willing to help you if you're serious.

>>713952312
That's actually how i make a living, furry nsfw patreon. I've just been doing it for so long that i want to try making a non porn related game for a change.

>>713947786
I think its hard. I dream of making a video game and escaping my shitty life but if you can't code you're basically screwed. You can make a game without art but you can't really make a game without code

>>713952740
Download Unity or Godot, look up a youtube tutorial, and you're done.

>>713951696
you need some special luck for a big jewtubber to notice you then even a simple derivative shit like vampire clicker can become a massive hit

example: miside devs been making such games for years with almost no sales surviving on e-begging till mongoloid shilled their game

>>713952851
Miside devs were making creepy horror stuff but never had anime girls and good style. Hell most of miside is literally taken from their other games in terms of story/scares/etc.

its your last chance in life, in about a year everything will be flooded with aislop

>>713953289
The stores have been flooded with "slop" for decades at this point.
You know it doesn't matter, right?

>>713953341
it does when it comes to complete paradigm shift
everyone doing 3d/vfx is already looking for new careers cause of AI

>>713951996
those are doujin games, crimzon clover is a 2011 game that kept getting updated versions up to 2021.

>>713953897
Those people are looking for new jobs because of corporate greed, not AI. Look at Tango Gameworks, the whole studio got laid off despite making an award-winning game. AI is just the excuse.

And indie workers aren't affected at all. No one gives a shit how the hotdog was made. Whether your game uses AI or not doesn't matter to 99.99% of consumers.

>>713947786
Piss easy. It’s hard to market a game

>>713947732
name 1 game

>>713954228
>these are doujin games
Only one of those games count as doujin, Crimzon Clover. It only has two versions on steam.

>>713954228
A doujin game by definition has to be made by Japanese people, Anon.

>>713954727
Nah

>>713952115
Exactly. Most of those ~300 games on Steam circa 2006 sold next to nothing if they didn't have a physical copy. The market has changed. 15 years ago it was unthinkable that you could sell a video game console on ONE online storefront only and get 4 million units out of it.

>>713952115
Off the top of my head:
>Dark Souls 3
>Human Fall Flat
>Enter the Gungeon
>Don't Starve
>Titanfall 2
>Farming Sim 17
>Hot Dogs, Horseshoes, and Handgrenades
>Ultimate Chicken Horse
>Starbound
>Skyrim Special Edition
>Hyper Light Drifter
>Jackbox 3
>Nekopara 2
>No Man's Sky
>Astroneer
>Stardew Valley
>Aseprite
>American Truck Simulator
>Doom 2016
>Danganronpa
>Ori
>Tomb Raider
>EDF4
Those are just the big ones. A lot of smaller games also broke 1mil.

>>713957424
Doujin literally just means "Japanese indie game"
What else could it mean?