How will they inevitably fuck it up? It's guaranteed they're going to. 30 fps cap? 60 fps cap but has s-s-s-stutters out the ass? Badly upscaled textures? Censorship? Porting the wrong version?
>>713996128 (OP)Sex with Natalia.
But I want Scarlet Nexus 2.
>remaster of the worst sixth-gen Tales game
Who cares?
>>713996128 (OP)Reminder that Luke did nothing wrong, btw.
He trusted the only person that was kind to him unlike all the other assholes
>>713996128 (OP)We're getting the Xillia duology and the Vita games first due to how easier they probably are to convert.
>>713996348>Badly upscaled texturesThis with truly horrifying UI elements
>>713996348>AI "upscaled" 2D art for objects, possibly also for character artworks>censored shit everywhere so you won't get to see the kid drown anymore but at best it will be an old man and you'll only hear it offscreen>questionable framerate>easy baby modes disguised as "accessibility features" like what they did with Graces FI was going to add complete recasting for the english dub, but iir the VAs of Abyss are still active and shouldn't have problems recording new lines if needed be.
>>713998170Unless Nintendo allows Takahashi to beg personally to Bamco, it ain't happening. At best it will probably be relegated to Snoy's shitty BC program.
>>713998423>>censored shit everywhere so you won't get to see the kid drown anymore but at best it will be an old man and you'll only hear it offscreenGraces Remaster actually didn't censor anything. It only lost the licensed non-Tales JP DLC costumes.
>>713998996Fuck i hope not, fucking Star Ocean 3 crashes all the time on ps5
>>713996128 (OP)Digimonchads eating good this summer.
>>713997838That's the dream but bamco would never after the trouble the first one was
>>713996128 (OP)BRING BACK KLONOA
>>713999208Does Graces even have stuff to be censored? I thought it was one of the tamest entries in the series.
>more remasters.
They just can't make things can they?
>>71399634830 fps cap
no/wrong lighting
costumes removed
>>713996128 (OP)>REMASTERProof they lost creative capability
It's just reheating old classics from now on
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>>713996128 (OP)Abyss bros, we can't stop winning
>713996761 (You)
>>713997609Yeah he was heavily manipulated and had the brain capacity of a child
>>713996128 (OP)FUCKING FIX THE SYMPHONIA PORTS YOU HACKS
>>713998423>but iir the VAs of Abyss are still active and shouldn't have problems recording new lines if needed beThey didn't even bother getting Troy Baker back for yuri.
>>713996128 (OP)I hope they actually remaster it in like a new engine and its not just another port.
>>713998996I can see Takahashi pushing his weight to get Nintendo to buy the IP rights to Saga and Gears.
To Snoy and Bamco they might get a pretty penny, but what's that in comparison to Nintendo getting their RPG cashcow more ammunition?
considering Monolith has a finger in virtually every single Nintendo first party pie, I'd wager they'd at least try it.
>>714004876There's no "new lines" to record, for Vesperia they had to do the PS3 content. Western Abyss is the most complete version of the game to date, the Japanese 3DS port was based on it
>muh skitsWill never happen, just like it never happened in any Symphonia re-release
>>713997609>>714004824Stay in /vrpg/
Will I ever get Destiny Director's Cut or Tales of Rebirth in America? Signs point to: LOL
>>714004876That's just the tip of the iceberg with the english dub of Vesperia DE: you can definetly tell which lines of dialogue are from the original and which are new from the horrible gap in quality, for starters. I have no idea what penny budget Bamco had but the american VA recording studios must be in disrepair because in almost every single skit/cutscene there were:
>mic peaking>reverb>words with the letter "s" sounding like the characters have lisp a la Milla in Xillia 1>constant volume shift>Raven's VA doesn't even bother with the accent the shitty localisation gave his character>Sam Riegel sounds like he wants to die, probably because he was fighting cancer around that timeWhoever was responsible for the audio mixing and voice direction should be fired if he's still working there. Troy wouldn't have improved much and they should have had Grant re-record every single line. At least the cringe would have been consistent on that front.
>>714004920anon, they aren't going to do it.
take it from me, senpai. they ported symphonia 3 fucking times, and every time was worse than the last
>port the PS2 version to PS3 without bringing over the gamecubes code and framerates. Runs at 30FPS max.>ported the PS2 version to PC - looks and runs as good as the PS3 version, but they added the PS3 content to it I guess. has problems if you don't use fixes. Still runs at 30FPs max.>Switch version "Remaster" uses AI upscaled crappy textures, myriad of UI problems. Uses the PS3 version as base. STILL runs at 30FPS.There's one thing you can count on with Scamco and that's that they'll do the bare minimum amount of work required to ship a remaster unless your name is Star Ocean 2: Second Story R
>>714005557Star Ocean is Square-Enix, retard.
>>714005748IS it fucking really? did i manage to mandella myself thinking it was bamco all this time
how did i manage this?
either way it reinforces my statement that bamco won't do fucking anything if they don't have to
>>714005873Sadly have to agree. Again, the Xillia duology and the PSVita versions of Innocence and Hearts theoretically wouldn't bee too much of a hassle considering the conversion from the PS3 version of Graces ended up ok for the most part. It's with the older titles that the true colors will pop up for the team.
>>714004105Arise killed the series, so what can they do?
>>714005557>>714005748star ocean was/is made by tales of staff that left bamco
>>714006056I genuinely have to wonder why they don't bother putting in the work or combining engine logic code from the gamecube version of ToS to the modern version unless they straight up lost the source code for that version or if Nintendo has some weird rights holding them - which wouldn't make sense given they have a switch exclusive version for remaster - so the only thing I can think of is that they are just fucking lazy and cheap bastards.
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get fucked Bamco
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>>714006151As much as a depressing statement it is, i'd rather take lazy remasters over a new title that Bamco will once again force to be the new Dark Souls but fully under their belt. That was the number 1 problem with Arise since the marketing.
>>714006151I never bothered finishing the dlc
>>714006354Did these people made also a version of Eternia that restores the skits? That would be rad.
>>714006496I got to the snow area and dropped the game.
maybe Namco gets 1% less lazy and their remasters contain 60fps (thanks to frame gen). It wouldn't be hard to make an AI live tool that does the exact same thing Namco with their remasters (except cutting content).
>>714006693I don't think they did but check yourself.
ToS for example uses the GC version which is the better version of the game, but it lacks the PS3 version costumes. If they manage to backport this it would be the definitive version of the game.
I think texture and translation is as far as this project goes.
>>714005557The ps3 version also skipped some voice lines only in english since it took the japanese code base which has less text boxes.
Or better said some new text boxes where added in the english localization and they are now gone.
Most noticable when you first meet Remiel.
This has never been fixed in any subsequent port.
>>713996128 (OP)I haven't played this game in years but part of me is still mad whenever I think about it. All I can remember is that the cast is full of unlikable hypocrites and nothing else.
>>714007506nta but I'm gonna insert that the GC version also lacks english skits, event quests, and Mystic Techs.
>>714008060You were filtered, it's fine, happens to a bunch of anons every thread
Reminder that the new Digimon game is locked to fucking 30fps on consoles somehow. Obviously, different teams but just goes to show how little Bamco gives a shit about their games.
>>713996128 (OP)New Tales when now that ESG is dead
>>713996128 (OP)I made a list of all the good tales games after they went 3d
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Thank you for reading my list.
Tales is the CoD of jrpg's
>>714010395For the nth time, that's Dragon Quest. FF if talking about popularity and normie appeal.
Hate to burst your bubble /v/ but Tales of Phantasiaโs GBA port will be the next game
>>714005148>Tales of Rebirthfan translation is out, can't speak to its quality though
>>713996348They will fuck it up because a new team (who doesn't get the original games design choices) will be on the project. I know this 100% because the original is still 100% playable.
>Tales thread
>suddenly xenoshitters
>>713996128 (OP)Digimon. What about Digimon? The game hasn't been canceled, right?
>>713996128 (OP)leakbros.........................
I wish they would actually localize the games that never came to the west.
Like where the fuck is Tales of Rebirth?
>>714013813Has been out for 6 months, fren
>>714013639Time Stranger looks good and is coming out in October. They release updates fairly frequently. Fans already translated Re:Coded 3DS and Adventure PSP.
>>714013956I mean officially. Not fan translations. This game should have been remastered faster than Symphonia.
>>714013956Why didn't you faggots tell me? Oh, but you're quick to make 103729105729 console war shitpot threads FUCK YOU.
>>714014683Bamco isn't going to go through the effort of redrawing all those sprites. Anon, we're talking about Bamco.
>>713996128 (OP)>January 26thNever underestimate Namco to do the cheapest shittiest thing imaginable. It'll be both Xillia games and they will make a big deal out of the fact that both titles will be sold together for the first time or whatever.
>>713996128 (OP)don't care
Where is pac-man
>>713996128 (OP)Tales of BerseREa would be kino
>another Remaster/Remake
I'm good.
>>714015365In Jade's belt
>>713996128 (OP)I still have the 3DS version, should I play that instead?
>tfw you will never have a bro like Guy
I didn't play the Graces remaster, how was it? Couldn't have been that bad I assume
>>714017317It was good, pretty much what a remaster should be like. Good performance, extra options like NG Grade Shop and the like. Only bad thing would be the lack of copyrighted DLC outfits like the PS3 Code Geass ones. With Graces and Vesperia being a thing, Symphonia is now the exception instead of the rule lol
>>714014630I'm glad to hear that it's finally coming. it's been so long
>>714017514Is there a way to make Symphonia's remaster good or are we just SOL for a definitive way to play still?
>>713996128 (OP)arise killed tales
>>714018559Unless they go back to the source and based future ports on the GameCube version of the game and retroactively add the PS2 additions to it, we're fucked because every single re-release is based on that PS2 port, which was rushed and developed for a console with inferior hardware to the purple box
>>714018559Afaik they "lost" the GC code for symphonia so they'd be better off just remaking the game, which in better hands wouldnt be the worst thing since symphonias combat could use some improvements. I dont see any crazy person/group pulling it off either so you just gotta pick your preferred game; better fps or more content
This is the only time I would like a remaster and its the xillia games, if they announce it I will be satisfied
>Arise sucks so much ass that Takes fans are crying for remasters of PS2 games than speculating about a brand new game which has been overdue
>>713996602based. abyss is unironically one of the worst Tales games.
>>714019404Why do you sound so mad?
>>714014683anon, you're going to be waiting forever. Just grab the fucking PS2 emulator and get it out of your system
>>714019513probably because Arise killed the series.
>>714019513Because Arise fucking sucks
>>714019404Scarlet Nexus mogs Arise.
>>714016353You might as well wait to see if they actually announce it. If you have the option of not playing on a 3DS then it's probably better not to. Honestly even emulating it is probably better, the only thing the 3DS version has over the PS2 version is faster load times.
>>714019563>>714019634>>714019656>t.tendiesWe've been through this when the game came out. Everyone who was shitposting Arise was a tendie. Best selling Tales Of btw.
Arise couldn't even get skits right.
>>714019656I played both and Arise is better. The only good thing about Scarlet Nexus is that the powers are fun to mess around with but the story is shittier, the combat is clunkier and it ends on sequel/DLC bait and will never get either. People just don't judge Scarlet Nexus as critically because it's a new IP and not part of a multiple decade long franchise, so people just forget about it and move on.
>>714020029>come up with an admittedly cool motion comic aesthetic that allowed customizations to be viewed in skits>it all goes to waste because they decided to use skits as a dumping ground for boring exposition
>Abyss
Ugh. They could remake Phantasia, and that would be 100x more interesting.
>>714020618I'd be okay with cross edition finally getting a port
who do people hate abyss?
>>714020618The game that's already been remade three times?
>>714020013Nigger, I bought the game. It was trash.
>>714020976I just always found it kind of bland, I never understood why it gets put on a pedestal so often, but I always preferred Team Destiny over Team Symphonia
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>>714020976It often easily ranks top 3 best Tales games if not number 1, it's typical /v/ shitposting
>>714020976they're contrarians
>>714020976Abyss is basically the Persona 4 of the franchise in getting a western PS2 release that got everybody's attention and became the face of the series alongside Symphonia and Vesperia as the "golden era" games for folks. It got constant conversation, is remembered right alongside Symphonia, and overshadowed things like Legendia or Radiant Mythology entirely, even getting a 3DS port years later around the time P4 Golden happened in 2012. It's popular, it's controversial due to the cast being a bag of dicks until Luke gets his development, and various other factors, so it attracts a ton of ire from other parts of the fandom that feel it gets too much of a spotlight.
>>714021036Narikiri X was the only actual remake, no need to over exaggerate. And it was never localized. An actual 3D remake would be nice in current gen.
>Graces remaster was just the same game but with QOL improvements here and there
>Abyss would just be the same with the 3DS QOL it got and probably free quick teleporting
Yeah, hard pass. Graces had faster and more focus on long combos and side step dodging, Abyss just goes back to barebones combat of base combo>base arte>arcane arte>run back>repeat. Half of the cast is also unbearable, more than the "power of love and friendship" wankfest that was the Graces cast. Luke's retardation and cunty attitude beat out Asbel's raging boner for Richard by a mile.
>cast are cunts to Luke to the very end for doing something he thought would help because he was explicitly told that by the mentor who has supported him his whole life (4? 5 years?)
>even though most of them have done similar or worse things
>Anise betrays them deliberately which helps kill a ton of people and get Ion killed
>she gets forgiven instantly and goes back to being a cunt to Luke
Abyss cast are garbage and the contrarians who disagree can suck a dick.
>he thinks other people are the contrarians
Not even worth a (You)
>>714021247this. it's the same faggots who told me tales of graces f was great, when it was actually shit.
>Remaster
>not a remake with new content or a full on sequel
Man...
>>714023657how would a sequel even work?
>>714023657That would cost more money and be a financial risk, we dont do that much these days
>>714023657>wanting Abyss: Dawn of the New World
>>713996128 (OP)here we go again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFCskRNZ-E
they could at least port legendia
>>714022317It's weird in a funny way that everyone who gets hung up on this scene winds up repeating the exact behavior that got Luke in trouble in the first place. You're so hyper-focused on making sure that everyone knows Luke isn't at fault that you don't realize that that fixation is exactly what exasperates everyone around you (and the party in the game).
I will only accept an Abyss remaster if they restore Tearโs cut Yulia costume
>>713996128 (OP)Yes!
ANOTHER "Tales of Generic Weebshit #734"!
Can't wait!
>>713996128 (OP)Checked the YouTube channel where the showcase will happen. These are the series listed to be featured:
CODE VEIN II
Death Note Killer Within
Digimon Story Time Stranger
EVERYBODY'S GOLF Hot Shots
MY HERO ACADEMIA
Little Nightmares III
PATAPON 1 + 2 Replay
Shadow Labyrinth
Super Robot Wars Y
TEKKEN 8
The Blood of Dawnwalker
Towa and the Guardians of the Sacred Tree
>>714025890oh boy another My Hero game. will it be another arena fighter? or will they do the smart thing and make it a game like the DC MMO?
we all know the answer
>>714025645You lost Better Manโข
>>714025645Tales games don't even release often enough to be a retard about this.
Isn't this already the 4th fucking time they release this shit?
GURASU TAMA NI WO SOMOTOSARETA
AKALFALFALFSF OSHITA
AFLDLSK HIDAN NANI HITOTSU DAKE YOUTTERU
What the hell was the BoC frontman's accent anyway?
>>714029919It's just his voice, I wouldn't call it an accent. I don't find it hard to understand what he's saying either
>>714026013>will it be another arena fighter?yes, and that's a good thing because one's justice 2 is the best arena fighter
>or will they do the smart thing and make it a game like the DC MMO?that would utterly fucking retarded
>>714030979Nah, he slurs a lot and puts accents on weird syllables.
>>713996128 (OP)>AI upscale UI and 2D elements>30fps (with drops)>Broken PC release
>>714023657Bandai Namco just spent like $300 million on a gigantic multimedia flop (Unknown9). They can't afford it right now. They need to save up for another $300 million dollarino flop in a few years. But seriously, their other live-service shit flopped hard (Blue Protocol) and they're not gonna have Fromsoft money anymore so their games division is kinda winding down right now.
>>714026053>>714026724Please.
You can't even tell the art style apart from some random, mass-produced shitty shounen. ZERO personality, zero cultural impact.
This shit is generic as it gets.
Even the game titles are fucking stupid
Tales of (insert random word here)
>>714034153See you tommrow.
>>714006151God arise was such a fucking disappointing game if you liked tale of games
>>713996128 (OP)fine namco
ill buy it AGAIN
but your well is running dry of old games I want to rebuy
>>713996348If Graces is anything to go off it'll probably be fine.
>>713996128 (OP)I love how much arise causes queers to seethe
based heterosexual happy ending w/marriage
Is Abyss actually good or is it "good" like Vesperia and actual complete dog shit with gameplay that is shit for the first like 30 hours, characters that are boring and/or unlikable and a story that has nothing interesting about it?
>>713996128 (OP)Any chance kirby air riders will show up here
>>714035065It's a PS2 game where combat was a step up from Symphonia, but still not up to Graces or Xillia for obvious reasons on the evolution scale, never mind Vesperia. Where the cast basically withhold info, fail to trust each other, and then heap all their blame on the protag because he's retarded, despite having reasons to be retarded (he's a clone of someone else without the memories involved so he's literally mentally a child).
>>713997609Probably the best protag in the series
Not gonna lie I'm disappointed it's not Xillia
>>714037284It might very well be, it's unknown yet