>SHMUPS ARENT POPULAR ANYMORE BECAUSE ITS ALL MEMOSHIT NOW YOU STUUUUUPID FUCKING CHUUUUDDD!!!
>look into the most popular shmup ever among Americans
>its memoshit
Why are normalfags like this?

>>714035962 (OP)
>talks about "normal fags"
>uses a term i have not even heard of

>>714035962 (OP)
Touhou isn't memoshit and it's more popular, go figure.

I've yet to hear a good argument as to why memorization in games is bad, on top of the Fact that the more shmups you play, the more intuitive each new one becomes

>>714036241
Touhou isn't even remotely as far spread of a phenomenon as Raiden

>>714035962 (OP)
post the pack please
also any way to emulate the deathsmiles 2 arcade cabinet? there's something purer about CAVE releases in arcades

>>714036381
lol

Yay, got to 2-3

>>714036405
Your wish is my command
>also any way to emulate the deathsmiles 2 arcade cabinet?
I think it will run like ass, so you're left with the Steam port

PACK POST!
Original(kept for legacy reasons): archive.org/details/shmupg-pack
Leinyan certified version(Enhanced, recommended): archive.org/details/mature-dot-dodging-games-gaiden-v-1.0.7z
A mame fork with more accuracy for CV1000(https://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/CAVE_CV1000) games: https://github.com/CoffeePope/mame-sh34

>2hu where?
nyaa.si/view/1743411
And more doujin shmups at vector.co.jp/vpack/filearea/winnt/game/shoot
https://freegame-mugen.jp/shooting/
https://www.freem.ne.jp/win/category/2

>B-But piracy is illegal!
Faggot shmups.wiki/library/Free_to_Play

Temporarily pasted anon's suggestions from some threads ago here:
pastebin.com/ZzHxJ38H

>>714035962 (OP)
Shmups were never hugely popular. Their popularity has been within a specific group, which is dying out. Modern gamers "play" games on YouTube.

>>714035962 (OP)
How does one make the Fischer 960 of shmups?

>>714037138
>I think it will run like ass, so you're left with the Steam port
DS2 arcade was literary on a 2006 Windows PC, you can play it natively and I did on my 2009 PC hooked up to a CRT and it runs perfectly.
Still, no reason to do so really when 360 version had more content and enhanced visuals/audio as usual with Cave's console releases.

And damn, another mame fork? Couldn't they contribute to the main git release? I already have custom build of groovy mame so that I have full list with Akai Katana and SDOJ, since the EXA fuckers forced them to comment out the part of the code.

>>714035962 (OP)
Shmups are like Fishing.
They're relegated to minigame status. Put them in a bigger game.
Give me a fast travel system where if I want to hop between distant locations, I shoot some dudes for 30~ seconds.

>>714037939
I don't remember the 360/PC versions having a difficulty select that changes patterns or makes bullets go faster like the arcade versions once you access service mode. Might be massively wrong though since it's such a puzzling exclusion.

Got a 1-ALL shitclear on Under Defeat. 1 retarded death in stage 4 and a death from the stage 5 boss due to misrouting.
Obviously not impressive but I'll post my progressions here.

>>714038586
Congrats Anon!
I hope you make more progress in that game

do you guys like omega boost? sin and punishment? kid icarus uprising? do you know any more games like those?

>>714036373
it creates a bad feeling on the initial playthrough and forces replayability. personally i like the feeling of seeing something and quickly reacting to it rather than moving at random and praying

>>714038913
>do you know any more games like those?
Wild Guns
Gamera 2000
Panzer Dragoon Zwei

All better than any shmup.

>>714039739
>all better than any shmup
Not really comparable
They're not the same genre

>>714039739
>panzer dragoon zwei
>bulk slash
oh yes
>>714039837
desu I don't think there's actually that much difference between gradius and space harrier.

>>714035962 (OP)
>memoshit

>>714040036
this nigga aint building a mental palace of shmup levels to learn and improve on his own lmoaoooo even kids playing sf64 xmas 98 gonna memorize them levels and routes naturally dog you become one with the stages and the scoring system its that simple

>>714039909
If those kind of games are more of your speed, go play Mirage Feathers then

>>714035962 (OP)
What the fuck is memoshit why can't you retards just use normal words

>>714040158
normalfags nowadays hate when a game put a barrier in front of them

what are some non memory shmups then?

>>714040219
is it actually good? blue revolver is the only indie shmup with anime girls I've liked

>>714041325
It is, and since it's dirty cheap you won't lose that much trying it. extra points if you're a lolifag

>>714040036
>>714040325
esl

>>714039909
Perspective makes a weird difference in shmups. Harrier/Afterburner-type games are better at throwing you off thanks to perceived "distance" and firing angles.
Horizontal/verticle shmups are very straightforward in that respect, and it's quite clear how far away you are beyond "far or "about to crash", as well as firing angles being exact(depending on weapon obviously, since some behave oddly by design.)
tl;dr they are rather different to actually play.

>>714040325
It's a faggy contraction, but I honestly can't blame someone for trying to seperate honest bullet hells from memorization ones.

What are some good discounted steam shmups? I already have Crimzon Clover.

>>714035962 (OP)
>Shit nobody cares about
>MUH OBSESSION ABOUT AMERICANA DO AMERICANS REALLY
please stop breathing forever

>>714038913
check out Rogue Flight, anon

>>714042353
Mushihimesama, Rolling Gunner, BLUE REVOLVER, Like Dreamer, Ikaruga (If you're willing to learn scoring routes), Deathsmiles, Ginga Force, Eschatos, Angel at Dusk, Raging Blasters, Crystal Breaker, Drainus and Caladrius Blaze

i fucking love memoshit

>>714042793
>Ginga Force
That game sucks.

>>714038913
Night Striker
Air Twister
Asura The Striker

>>714042793
Looking at either Blue Revolver or Eschatos because the rest are too expensive. Which of those two are straight-up shooters instead of gimmick games?

>>714043156
>Asura The Striker
If you're going to recommend that you should include Mirage Feathers too.

>>714043607
Both of those are "straight-up shooters"

>>714040158
I have played 10 hours of Blue Revolver in the past few days and had the time of my fucking life. Feel like that game does such a good job of helping build distinct practice goals

>>714043676
Thanks. In that case, which is cooler?

>>714043156
How do I not get filtered by rail shooters with no reticle? I'm totally comfortable with the snap to center control scheme of space harrier and asura but I struggle with aiming

>>714043654
Don't care for pedo yuri shit

>>714043965
Then you don't care for good games.

>>714044228
Get help

>>714043835
Depends on your taste
Blue Revolver, I haven't played but I've heard it's a CAVE-type game so more bullet hell
It's really well-acclaimed for the mission system so you have something to chew on other than just arcade mode
Eschatos is a more classic-type shmup with less bullets but faster ones

>>714044276
You too?

>>714044426
Eschatos it is.

you know what these games need? weapon switching and talent trees

>>714036141
memoshit = vast amount of memorization required to beat game

>>714043738
>practice goals
>single player game
>brithrates collapsing

>>714042793
I think we should execute all footfags

>>714036241
Touhou the characters. Let's not kid ourselves into claiming those fags play the games.