How did capcom manage to fuck up this badly?

Californication just like snoy interactive entertainment.
Capcom is totally blown.

>>714054817 (OP)
And? It still sold millions of copies. Capcom made their money. Woke won.

>>714054916
Are you retarded nigger?
This is clearly not the last game capcom have made, they're not retiring after Wilds

>we want the normie audience
>let's dumb down the game more
rinse and repeat since every game post-GU

>>714054817 (OP)
Selling out only works in the short term. They made their bucks with World while killing the series in the process.

>>714055160
It'll be fine, next game will be Switch 2 exclusive for 2 years, sell 20 million copies, and be lauded as the revival of the series.

>>714054916
You're fucking retarded

>>714055160
this post is a satire

>>714055160
if Wilds was World 2 then it wouldn't be having all these problems

>>714055591
But it is, but a lot worse.

>>714054817 (OP)
We've had exact thread like hourly.

>>714055287
Nah, capcom has 0 understating of how to make a monster hunter game anymore.
>>714055591
>performance issues
>stripping core features and soul
>story focus
Sure sounds like world 2 to me.

>>714055673
it doesn't play anything like world, stop being disingenuous

>>714055804
You need to stop being disingenous. It's the next logical step in the series.
World changed the series to casualized slop, Wilds changed the series to even more casualized slop.

>>714054817 (OP)
>literally has 6 times world’s current players right now
Wilds won

>>714055787
that's classic enshittification. making monster hunter casual made serious bank, so naturally the logic was to make the sequel even dumber, only they quickly found out even the dumbest retards have limits. it's very hard to recover from slop this sloppy. it's a toss up, this could very well be the end of monster hunter. their best bet is to revert back to at least monster hunter 4, with some world quality of life. a third sloppification in a row would 100% be the end.

>>714054817 (OP)
using REengine for open world shit was a grave mistake

I went back to World.

Trying to pander to Zoomers/casuals/normies who play on PC without understanding how PCs work.
Worldsperms can't understand that this is high rank game.
Bings are seething again about not getting the New MH on their tablet.

Pick one, or all. It does not matter. They are all true.

>>714055906
every single MH game has been easier than the last, it has been a linear progression
part of that is just people getting better at the game but most of it comes down to "expanding the market"
the series didn't suddenly go from super hard, elite-only gamers titles to weenie hut jr World, it (and most other video games) were trending in that direction the whole time
wilds isn't just bad because it's easy, it's a genuinely bad game

>>714055907
World sperms have no argument
The numbers speak for themselves

>>714056084
There's a big difference between
>more options and slightly easier
>remove 70% of options and make it 10 times easier

>>714054817 (OP)
Doesn't matter, Capcom already got your money.

>>714056150
>>remove 70% of options and make it 10 times easier
remember what I said about being disingenuous? this level of hyperbole makes you look retarded

It took them 8 years to make game this bad

>>714054817 (OP)
They don't underestimated the amount of poorfags on PC.

>>714056237
I mean if you think that removing half of the armor sets, making armor skills braindead, making combat extremely streamlined with movement allowed while using items and being able to cancel item usage, monsters being slower than ever and doing less damage with less tracking AND having less health is not extremely casualized you might be braindead.

>>714054817 (OP)
This is mostly due to Chinese reviews btw. Paul Tassi didn't mention this perhaps because it didn't suit whatever narrative he is trying to construct. He did find it interesting to mention the number of Chinese people who played Stellar Blade.

>>714056805
Why do the chinks and nips hate it so much?

I HATE THE RENGINE
I HATE THE RENGINE

>>714054817 (OP)
butt's been coomed in, princess beated, moving on to the new game Death Stranding 2.

>>714056276
ConsoleGODs win again.

>>714055987
>a third sloppification in a row would 100% be the end.
You mean 4th, wilds is the third in a row

>>714056886
they've got a taste

>>714057260
Of what?

>$70
>Horrible optimization even on top end PCs
>No need to grind monsters for a specific part
>Forced story elements like World but even worse
>Indian kid is the worst thing ever
>Player character talks in cutscenes
>Palicos now have voice acting
>Dogshit flagship
THIS WHOLE GAME SUCKS SO MUCH DICK THAT NOT EVEN LAGIACRUS CAN REVIVE IT

>>714057283

>>714057283
dog

>still need to go through the inevitable flop of an expansion and then dogshit rise 2 before monster hunter 7
yep, its fucking over. this series is dead

>>714057383
>no need to grind monsters for a specific part
explain

>>714057383
a bit more on top
>automovement
>ugly as fuck
>music is trash with old themes ruined
>you're not a hero just hired muscles

>>714054916
>And? It still sold millions of copies. Capcom made their money. Woke won
I got this game for free with my GPU and still didn't even install it.

>capcom releases FREE content updates
>/v/ cries and pisses their diapers
You retards are the new minecraftfags.

We're so fucking back.

>>714056237
there's no way you're dying on this hill

>>714058495
>1 million to only 60k
HOW DO YOU FUMBLE THIS HARD?

Its a single player game with some duct taped multiplayer. People moved on.

>>714058495
Game should have at least 100k peak without updates.

>Lagi finally comes back
>literally no one fucking cares anymore

>>714055987
I wouldn't call it the complete end but the next entry will definitely have a worse selling start, less pre-orders or day 1 buys
Now since the next entry is a portable one...

mhy issue is that you don't "hunt" anymore. you just pick a monster and then have your steed automatically walk you there. you kill it, get some loot and resume like nothing happened.
i expect them next game to have monster healthbars and the enemy being permanently tagged on the map upon seeing it

>>714054817 (OP)

Capcom can afford to lose one game, Monster Hunter Wilds. The real question is: will Capcom actually be the adult in the room and refund the PC/Steam players their money back or at least fix Monster Hunter Wilds?

>>714059560

>then have your steed automatically walk you there.

You can't be serious. Why would a triple A company like Capcom put mobile game mechanics in their triple A game?

>>714059314
>Portable 6th is going to take the fall for mainline again
>MH7 will be heralded as a return to form, again
>It will be even shittier than Wilds
>But be almost as successful
>again
The only way for Mainline to experience comeuppance for its' enshittification is if Portable dies FIRST so it doesn't exist as a buffer between titles. That's so unfair.

>>714059560
>the enemy being permanently tagged on the map upon seeing it
already happening retard, map always has monsters and they movement now in real time.

>>714057383

>Indian

As in South Asian Indian? Wtf?

>>714058843
this is what happens when you streamline the fun out of Monster Hunter
there's so much QoL that the game honestly just feels boring

>>714054817 (OP)
This is what happens when you only make games for enthusiast level hardware that has enthusiast level prices. This ain't the housing industry, the bubble was eventually going to collapse. Will it stop? No because dollar sales matters more than sales volume. Reviews also dont matter. Monster hunter wilds sold 10 million. If that was 90% refunds it would matter. However its not. Anyways kys OP

The reviews are bad because:
>Extremely small roster
>Terrible performance (this is the biggest reason, actually)
>Menuing is shit
>The online system is bloated dogshit. Environment links, friend groups what the fuck (second biggest problem)
>New content extremely slow to appear
>Everyone just waiting for G rank
>Nothing to do
>Story takes too fucking long and it's too fucking intrusive
Like with Iceborne, many problems will be fixed in the expansion, then the B Team portable game will break all sales records and have some new retarded gimmick that will probably be related to water fighting again

>>714059587
It's already too late to refund.

to be fair im pretty sure everyones just waiting for the expansion, everyone loves to doom and gloom and kick up a stink when theyre bored. the expansion will sell gangbusters and people will come back whether thats a good thing or not.

I doubt theyll fix the performance, maybe if they release a switch 2 version when the expansion comes out theyll optimize that version only lol

>>714058843
It happens with almost every game, friend

>>714059942
>>The online system is bloated dogshit. Environment links, friend groups what the fuck (second biggest problem)
It's a single player game with tacked on multiplayer.
>but it's Monster Hunter
Yep. That's part of why it's so shit. The single player is relatively seamless, but the multiplayer requires invites for everything because it was designed around the single player. The classic quest based structure is barely used for anything.

>>714059587
>will Capcom ever
Did they reimburse people for all the shit they did in the 360 era? No? Still being bullshitted by a bullshitter. Never5get your place lil niggi

what are the chances they fix the performance so i can play on my humble 3050?

>>714059949
>>714060221

Sony and CD Projekt Red refunded console players their money back in the following days of CyberPunk 2077's launch since it was an unoptimized mess. Then CD Projekt Red kept working on improving and optimizing the game and now it's a good game to play, especially since the Cyberpunk Anime helped breathe new interest into the game.

>>714054954
Are you implying "gamers" will suddenly start "boycotting" Capcom because of this? Look at ActivisionBlizzard.

>>714060341

>>714054916
This anon is correct.
They made record sales, "fucked things up" in the latter part of its lifespan so they can say they fixed it in the next and repeat.
Welcome to Nu game design, where games are just like appliances, made to degrade over time to sell you the new and improved one

>>714054817 (OP)
It looks like shit and there's no fun monsters to fight. Also, monsters are still too easy

>>714054817 (OP)
Well, its a play station 5 game, not a pc game.
Pcfags will keep getting our scraps and they will buy it anyway because they simply cant accept that consoles exist

>>714060349
The console players have a stable 29fps. You bought a game that you knew required enthusiast hardware and Ai shit for 79 bucks. I dont feel bad for you & I won't feel bad for you when you buy the 50 dollar expansion that "fixes" the game

>>714060341

>>714054817 (OP)
Brown fatigue

>>714060209
anon none of the prior games have been so obtuse to connect to and instance quests with

>>714055906
t. filtered by behemoth

>>714060848
I think I worded that poorly. It SHOULDN'T be obtuse because it's Monster Hunter, but they focused on the single player instead of the tried and true quest system. The closest MH got to being this bad was World's main story, which of course Wilds expanded on.

>>714061183
ah yes, okay
we're in total agreement then

Yeah I'm not playing Monster Hunter Palestine edition

>>714054954
>>714055160
Its gonna take a decade or 2 of fucking up before consoomers stop buying these games day 1. It took final fantasy almost 2 decades of shitting out turds before the IP became irrelevant. For now theyre in that zone where people will still buy the next game and the next because of fomo shit.

>>714057494
Everything drops super easily and on top of that investigations (basically free roam hunts that work somewhat like MH4 guild quests) can guarantee you that specific rare mats will drop, so grind is very minimal to the point it might as well be non existant except for maybe decorations. They're apparently (hearsay I've read) trying to roll that back by making tempered monsters the one with the better drops but who knows how much or little it's gonna affect things.

>>714054817 (OP)
1. It runs like shit
2. Its live service
3. In-game advertising

Its a flawless combination of dogshit ideas.

>>714060628
With how the game looks, there's no reason it shouldn't tbdesufampai

>>714061286
While I'd like to see it fixed, I don't expect it to happen. I don't know if they CAN fix it anon. They were never able to fix Dragons Dogma 2. Same engine, same slop quality programming.

>>714058843
I'm not sure what you are expecting here Anon.
As >>714060205 said it happens with almost every game.

>>714060596

Console shooters and action games should aim for at least 60 frames per second especially in performance mode. Mobile gamers with good mobile devices usually play at 60nframes per second with a high screen refresh rate since it registers all that touch actions when playing, giving them an edge over players with lower mobile devices.

So if you're playing a console action game with lower frames per second and you're lagging and all your button presses aren't registering correctly, I'm pretty sure you are screwed.

>>714061409

Don't worry. Capcom can copy the U.S. and European gaming companies by laying off their more competent developers and hiring pajeets who work for lower wages but longer hours and making even worst code while the guys at the top pocket the difference or whatever.

>>714061576
>implying either of those games are comparable
Monster Hunter is a skinner box so if people stopped playing it then something is REALLY wrong.

>>714061576
>>714060205
>>714058843
>>714054817 (OP)
>games journalists keep pushing titles with "PLAYERBASE DROPS BY 99% HOLY FUCK WHAT A FAILURE"
>still having fun with game
>normie friends read articles and stop playing because 'DEAD GAME'
>less fun playing alone
games journalists are literally killing good games with their shitty articles

>>714055787
this
If you made a DIFF between GU and World the result would be
>more story
>more cinematics
>more "QoL"
>automate tracking
>reduce investment (no quest fee, all use items are basically free)
>reduce commitment (more cancel option, more safety utils, free environment cc, damage etc.)
>streamline quest design
>casualize inventory
>MMO features
and if you reapplied that same patch what you get is Worlds 2.0. Wilds is as much World as it could be, same consoles, same direction.

>>714060205
80k is literally 10% of the all-time peak
you absolute moron

What does that mean?

I see articles like this and I'm an "oldhead" I guess and I don't get it? Is Monster Hunter Wilds not a purchase game? How does it "collapse"? The DRM servers fucking out?

>>714054817 (OP)
Not on Switch

>>714060205
>game from 2 years ago
next you're going to post World right, game from fucking 2018

>>714060341
I checked new patch and game still has textures loading issues with slow popups everywhere.
Capcom impressively doesn't give a fuck to fix it even while having it run on in-house engine, knowing everything about it.
So basically never

>>714063530
You know it will get the eventuall Switch 2 release that can run flawlessly in 1080p 120fps ultra.
Steamies will rope themselves that day.

>>714054817 (OP)
Legit one of the worst influences on videogame discourse online.

>>714063842
Prove him wrong

>>714063937
Engaging in the discourse is how you lose, young grasshopper.

>>714056276
the funny thing is those statistics are freely available and only a few can reliably handle Wilds.
Should also be noted the game looks horrible on lower settings

>>714063516
everyone is infected of the weird dichotomy of a /v/tard
>live service games are bad, but if your game isn't being consistently updated to maintain the playerbase it's shit!
>your videogame should maintain the playerbase for it to be good, but if it does it's worthless slop like fortnite!
>your game needs to sell millions for it to be considered good and not a flop, but if it sells too well it's goyslop for normies and shit!
>shareholders are bad for constantly chasing numbers go up, but muh steam charts and sales numbers though!

>>714063981
seems like you got influenced, bitch

>>714064050
game looks just horrible on any settings.

>>714064619
that's a boon for half the environments. Tried to find a video with low settings in forest. Somehow there is none. The player and monster models are still decent, but everything else looks muddy

>>714055287
This. Consumers are sheep and fickle, few do methodically long term boycotts with their wallets

game completely failed to meet expectations for people who got into the series with World-Iceborn.
I suspect the master rank DLC is going to sell like shit.
They still didn't add "home" area, it's ridiculous

>>714057383
>>Indian kid is the worst thing ever
Why the hell should I be the one looking after that whining, smelly pajeet brat??!

>>714059821
it runs like shit on any hardware and looks like shit on any hardware.

>have to do some bullshit doshaguma capture quest to unlock the lagiacrus quest
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK THIS SHIT

>>714065310

You bought a game that has a pajeet in it.

>>714061409

Dragon's Dogma 2 has problems?

>>714054980
MH got dumbed down after the first game on the PS2 you fucking casual.

>>714061409
not saying DD2 runs well per se, but I can at least get it to run at 50-70 fps on a mix of medium/high graphics at 1440p on a 1080ti. meanwhile wilds runs at 10-30 fps with all settings at low and 1080p upscaled from like 240p. not to mention dd2 looks better at the same settings.

>>714064393
>live service games are bad, but if your game isn't being consistently updated to maintain the playerbase it's shit!

>release a half finished game that doesn't even have a high rank version of the final boss
>"Why do you want updates? I thought you hated live service!"

>nobody wants to arm wrestle
Lobbys are so shit

>>714062804
Get non retarded friends

>>714069323
i dont know how to make new friends

>>714054916
>You're
Kys corpo cuck suckr

>>714054916
Won what?

>>714054916

How many of those millions were Steam/PC? How many of them will buy another Monster Hunter on Steam/PC?

>>714054817 (OP)
Bump

>>714056276
>They don't underestimated the amount of poorfags on PC.
>recommended:
>2060 super
>looks and runs like shit on
>4070
it's not poorfags, it's capcom being unable to make video games. wilds joins like... 1 other game running at a very, very bad 60fps, or a barely solid 30fps. the other being... dragon's dogma, 2, capcom's other shit game, on their same shit engine.

>>714076558
4070 is the poorfag GPU.

>>714076617
>when you're shilling for corporations so bad you forget how to read

These threads are shill threads made by crapcom trannies trying to keep this failure game discussed
And if any mod cuck reads this- kike nigger

>>714067630
You do realize that a game can have QoL features while actually becoming more complex/difficult right?

The earliest monster hunter games are only hard for the first 30 minutes to 1 hour, then you realize that you can flowchart every monster to death because weapon movesets are so limited. Hammer is the perfect weapon to explain this
For example in basically every single game Hammer is one of the most braindead weapons in the game. You literally just spam super pound non-stop, because it's by far your safest, least committal move and is decently strong. You only ever commit to triple pound if you have a ginormous window (Like if the monster gets stunned). This is because the weapon lacks roll cancels or cancels into charge like in later gens, so you can't commit to anything if the monster is actually moving. Hammer is actually a pretty good weapon in a lot of the older games too, not the best but one of the stronger ones. It's boring as hell and dumb to fight anything.
Then in 4U they actually threw a bunch of cancels on the moves, gave it armor on side slap, made level 2 way better, etc. Now suddenly hammer is genuinely one of the more complex weapons to optimize because every single move, even the stupid spinning attack under certain circumstances, is useful.
So no, just because mining nodes don't let you gather from them because they're empty now, or because Rathalos decides to sleep in an unreachable area doesn't mean the game is "Dumber". If you want to argue that the older games are harder, fine, but those games are far more simple at their core.

If you want an actual example of "Dumbing down" then you can look at World Hammer, where they actually expanded the moveset, but the new moves (Big Bang/Ledge back hopping) are so fucking strong that your moveset is effectively reduced down to 1-3 moves again, AND you have simpler item management. Now that's actual dumbing down.

>>714055160
>while killing the series in the process
you've been saying that for almost a decade now, and yet World, Rise and Wilds each sold more than all the games before them had.

>>714059560
>and the enemy being permanently tagged on the map upon seeing it
That already happened in Rise

>>714060385
They won't boycott it. Crapcom shills are amongst the most retarded fanbases out there.

I played the demo and thought it was really uninteresting on ps5, but it didnt have any real issues running. Are the problems mostly on pc, or is everyone abandoning the game in general?

they chose a troon golem to be their western spokesperson with men in dresses for their sponsored live streams rather than the japanese counterpart of cute asian girls and attractive anime v-tubers as their representatives

>>714054817 (OP)
Steam Charts show 130k current players on Steam, compared to a peak of 1,1 million.
How is this 1%?

>>714054817 (OP)
It doesn't matter. Modern gamers just buys games and neved/barely played them. The actual fans that plays the game can leave and the game will still sell millions. It's basically running on inertia now.

>>714079072
Doesn't matter if it sells well. WotLK was by far the most successful wow expansion despite introducing all the things that destroyed the series.
The game ultimately died with World while people paraded it's corpse around. Hell 4 fucked up big time with the introduction of mounting which absolutely destroys the flow of combat.

>>714054898
*brown

>>714057383
>Palicos now have voice acting
I think palico having a voice is fine if only they speak more in cat-ish pun in every sentence but also reduce the amount of handholding they keep murmuring about during hunt.

>>714054817 (OP)
Heh, looks like my voodoo shaman curse is working. This is for leaving Dragon's Dogma 2 to die, you fuckers.

>>714083378

What was wrong with Dragon's Dogma 2?

>>714084634
Game has an extremely strong core but is blatantly unfinished, unoptimized and badly needs some sort of DLC or expansion for more content. Popular theory is that it was rushed to release before the end of the fiscal year and was used as a testing ground to see how RE engine handles large open areas.

>>714086142
>was used as a testing ground to see how RE engine handles large open areas
Even a fucking monkey could tell it will run like shit without even trying, yet Capcom who fucking MADE the engine couldn't.
>to see how
Well it runs like shit, wow, great surprise. Now what? What was this test for? They still proceeded with Wilds and it runs equally shit if not worse while also looking worse.

>>714086142
nta but I had a blast.

I've never liked Monster Hunter

>>714086643
so did I but i'd really love a DLC to blast even harder but clearly capcom doesn't care about the game and would rather milk MH instead

That brown kid

>>714060482
Based noticer

>>714056276
>>714064050
Your retarded point would make sense if there weren't over 1 million people playing the game at one point in time.
It's not that they can't play it, it's that they stopped playing it.

>old hardware existing means anything
That's like saying the game won't do well on consoles because a PS2 and a Wii can't run it.

>>714060205
>>714061576
Wilds was below Monster Hunter Worlds for most of the month, you dishonest retard.

>>714054817 (OP)

>heavier narrative focus
>story is fucking trash
>seasonal update waits
>soundtrack remixes are fucking trash
>weapon swapping makes game too easy
>focus mode makes game too easy
>DLC cosmetics en mass right out the gate and still coming
>all whilst we know an expansion is coming...

I'll play when its completed and i don't blame anyone else for having that same opinion.

>>714060205
>drops down to 25k with an 83k 24 hour peak
>wilds was dropping down to the thousands and is only popping up because of an update despite being more recent and having a larger all-time
Not comparable, Wilds drop-off is obviously worse

>>714054916
How is this game woke?
Because it's shitty?

>>714054916
>woke won
It's the worst Monster Hunter game ever made and it has nothing to do with culture war shit. The crazy part is that the worst Monster Hunter game ever made is still better than the best games in the majority of franchises. Stop wokeflagging retard.

>>714080909
Worse than mounting itself were the ledges for pulling it off. They get in the way of whatever you're doing more often than helping.
4/4U maps are some of the worst in the series because they are littered with the damn things.
And the verticality in general doesn't play nice with some returning monsters' movesets.
Also (Tidal) Najarala.

>>714054817 (OP)
I do not need constant Gears of War walk and talks for dogshit lore that tries to justify killing monsters this late into the series.

Is there a benchmark for this new update?

>>714093934
blah blah DEI chin blah blah blah the desert has brown people in it. the usual schizo retard babble.

>>714054898
The sun may rise in the east, at least it settled in a final location

>>714054817 (OP)
Maybe they'll prioritize stability and the ability to actually fucking play the game

>>714098463
how about more story?