Thread 714058790

What went wrong? Was it the steep price?

Still better than Chobot.

I don't believe for a second that this game is selling worse cause muh woke and I don't think the average /v/irgin is stupid enough to believe it too.

This is just LARPing you're doing. Bland circlejerking.

>>714058847
ill diddle that riddle for ya, frogcuck
the game is too high IQ for /v/aggots

>>714058790 (OP)

It sold millions.

>>714058790 (OP)
KEK PS5 IS DOOMED

>>714058834

Chobot use fully the ps5 controller compared to amazon movie 2 only cringe its astrobot shilling aloy and that lesbo roning that a kid with terminal cancer played early and said its an unfinished shit

>>714058965
>1000001

>>714058847

Lot of people got burned of woke tropes

>>714058847
SPBP

>>714058790 (OP)
I like to shoot not walk, also the female characters wear too much clothes

>>714059065
Chobot is beautiful but retarded as fuck. Still inferior to astrobot.

Kojimbles and Sony still not realizing Exclusives are dead outside of Nintendo.

Fucking both are retarded.

>>714059386
tendie coping that he'll never play kojima ludokino

>>714059125
Sorry, anon, it seems like you mistook my statement as an invitation to have an argument about your position.
The truth of the matter is that I know the point of this thread. You get to briefly pretend that the game is failing (Even though it will probably be a success by the end, as you well know) cause muh woke (Even though this is obviously not the reason even if it did actually fail, as you well know), you circlejerk yourselves, you all willingly participate in delusions that let you live in an alternate reality and then you all move on, rinse and repeat every year for the rest of your lives.
What I'm doing is no different to going to a shitty run down street and telling a bunch of junkies wasting their life away coking themselves out that they're retards. I'm not trying to "change your mind" here. I'm just acknowledging your faggotry and the fact that I see through it. You may now spend the next 480 posts in this thread playing make-believe.

>>714059451
I hate you console faggots more than anything. As if I dont have a PC that shits all over all consoles, thats not the point you money focused brown faggots.

You are so fucking deplorable. Range ban the third world.

Genuine question (I haven't played the game), what is the point of this scene? What is it trying to show/tell the player?

>>714058790 (OP)
>go out and buy a physical copy in a store when you'll just have to install it off the disk when you get home anyway
Meanwhile you can buy a game online and download/install it while you're already playing something else on your PC. Kojimbos mistake was not doing a simultaneous physical and digital release. Now people will think the game is shit because it didn't sell well. Instead everyone would rather wait until its on Steam

>>714059682
NTA but DS2 seems to focus hard on relying on AI or automation for everything. If you look its just a puppet, and in very short bursts, you can see strings.

Kojimas a pretentious faggot but hes not retarded.

>>714059872
Yeah but why is it dancing in the black shit? Is the bad guy doing it or something because he's a crazy joker guy?

>>714059334
KEK she its a fine bitch to lick joysticks thats all

If anything, Death Stranding 1 probably sold a lot more than it would've otherwise just because it was Kojima's first game after leaving Konami and people wanted to see what wacky shit he'd come up with.

>>714059928
thats the robot being injected with melanin causing him to dance soulfully

4chan won
reddit lost

>>714059928
its the wish of kojima/the actor

>>714058790 (OP)
*in physical copies
**in one country
***physical copies were sold out

>>714059928
Go play the game if you want to know

>>714060087
If I'm honest, I think Kojima is a huge hack who spends all day sniffing his own farts. He's a pretentious piece of shit that desperately wishes he was making films instead and all he does is waste all the money he is given to he can live his westaboo fantasy of hanging out with foreign actors. So I don't want to give them any money. Even if I were to pirate it, the game looks like shit.

>>714060080
man snoys must be retards when psstore barely offer discount for digital and its the same price or more expensive

>>714058790 (OP)
>Physical was more prominent in 2019 than it is in 2025
>more PS4s in the wild in 2019 than PS5s in 2025
>the first game had the benefit of being Kojima's first post-Metal Gear game only for it to be polarizing amongst audiences - likely that lots of people who bought the first one didn't like it and don't care about a sequel
>people prepared to wait for the PC port next year

>>714058790 (OP)
grim

but 90% of death stranding sales were hype and strange throat baby ads
the wonder is gone, so now all you're left is with NotMGS

it will be very painful for Kojima when Konami gets away with it and makes their Remake a hit like they did with SH2RE

>>714058790 (OP)
>selling 66% worse than DS1
Dark Souls 1 sold like shit though

>muh sales
bro...its a jap game...japs dont give a single solitary fuck about you subhumans (non japs) as long as it tops the sales in Nippon the execs at sony wont care.

SHUT UP YOU FUCKING TRANNIES ITS CAUSE ITS WOKE!!!

>>714060429
>as long as it tops the sales in Nippon
Lol

>>714059682
>What is it trying to show/tell the player?
That the fun part is about to begin.

I want to like these games but the story characters, everything about the aesthetic just does absolutely nothing for me. every break between deliveries is a confounding disappointment.

>>714060642
Is Higgs a troon?

would explain his smooth beardless face

I think it's just not profitable to make sequels anymore that absolutely require you to have played their predecessor to understand their story.

I guess you could do that back when games were shorter and cheaper. But with big, full price titles like this it's practically a foregone conclusion that compared to the previous game, sla bunch ofpeople will drop off but no additional people will pick it up because they won't understand what's going on.

Same happened to FF7 Rebirth. Which is a real shame, because both games were considerably better than the games before them but at the same time it's obvious why it happens.

>>714061952
in some ways i agree but thinking about it, DMCV was released in 2019 months before DS and if capcom announced a DMC6 the whole internet would go insane with hype for the story (even before the netflix adaptation people wouldve been hyped)

i guess kojima actually has to make a good fucking game to get sales for his shitty new franchise instead of depending on game journalist/eceleb shills saying its le best game ever like spheretranny

>who could have guessed that people want to PLAY games and not watch.
are normies finally tired of "CINEMATIC EXPERIENCE" or what?

>>714058790 (OP)
You think alan wake 2 inspired him?

>>714062413

I don't think DMC is story driven the way Final Fantasy or Death Stranding is, though. You can still play it and enjoy the combat for its own sake and just gloss over or skip the narrative.

Which isn't to say that FF7 or DS don't have fun gameplay but I think they ask some investment in the actual plot in a way something like DMC doesn't.

>>714061706
he would chop his dick to become amelie so yes

>>714062674
yes thank god they didnt turn a new playable nigress in the chosen one like alan woke

>>714058790 (OP)
What in the everloving fuck is that supposed to be? Has good ol' Kojimbles finally OD'd on his own farts? Did he sniff one too many?

>>714058790 (OP)
The real fans play on pc
I was saying this months ago but nobody listens to me
I can't believe kojima did us dirty like this

>>714062827
>OD'd on his own farts
one wonders

>>714058790 (OP)
They shoud've make it online game instead of movie game. No direct cooperation, you can't form parties, you can meet other players by just travelling through the world. You can work together with other players to build infrastructure, roads, or simply help each other in difficult part of the route. Or beat other player and take his package.

>>714058790 (OP)
That's all this piece of shit deserve

>>714062530
After Souls games, yes. We've had so many souls games already and people still want more.

>>714058790 (OP)
Unironically I just went back to 100% Astro Bot because I was feeling bored by DS2.

>>714058847
It's selling bad because people don't buy as many games on PS5 as it's high units sold wouls suggest. Just look at the best selling games on PS5. 1st is Marvel's Spider Man 2 at 11 million. 2nd place is Black Myth Wukong at 5 million. 3rd & 5th range from 3 million to 3.97m. 6th and 7th are occupited by Final Fantasy VII rebirth & Stellar Blade at 2 million. These seem like pretty low numbers with how long PS5 being out and having sold 77.7m units.

>>714059682
There was no point
Kojima just goes crazy at the end

if playstation doesnt embrace microsoft tactics it will die

The PS5 has significantly less units sold than the ps4. DS2 is obviously a sequel, so it's lacking the mistique that the first one had. People also already played DS1, so they know what this game is unlike the first one. And unlike the first one people are already expecting a PC port this time around.

>>714058790 (OP)
that's always been the case, right?
people who bought DS1 and didn't like it wouldn't bother buying the second game in the series

>>714058790 (OP)
PS5 owners aren't buying 3rd party games. It's was o obvious. They just want 1st party slop like Astrobot

snoys pretends they bought the game

>>714059872
Oh. No fucking wonder the deltarune threads were getting fucking killed so much.
Toby beat Kojima to [death], and then beat Kojima to [the punch].

>>714066286
Kojima is their big name developer, his name along would rise the hype for any project. You can't sell more ps5 with b-tier games, you need something hyped.

>selling worse than a studio's final game before being layoff'd out of existence

i've got a good feeling about this, guys

The exposure is so bad, most videos I've seen have some super hectic action packed cutscene then sam either running or using the guitar gun.

If it's anything like DS then the gameplay is fun, but the juxtaposition is jarring

ye ps5 exclusives absolutely should be released simultaneosly on pc also. now they will just dump it in a year with no marketing and no hype to sell 25k copies on pc lol

People keep saying Kojima is a westaboo but the game is decidedly Japanese in its weirdness mixing serious tones and complete farce.

>>714058834
Huh?

>>714059682
Well, it follows something that seems like a callback to MGS2, where one of the villainss is monologuing about their evil plan to entrap everyone into a global digital network and it has Die Hardman basically mocking him for thinking he could get away with it that easily by literally crashing his villain monologue with a song and dance number. Sort of making a satirical point about how he's not just gonna do a retread of MGS2.

Also, Die Hardman's actor has a background in broadway musicals and I guess he thought it would be cool to have him show off his chops.

>>714058790 (OP)
yeah no shit, it's a walking simulator with hollyjew actors, literally the most normalfag game you could come up with

>>714067736
>duuuude wot if patriots speech from MGS2 had a dance number
Retire, Senilejima

>>714067736
subverting expectations, judging by the butthurt it's created he's done a pretty good job

>>714058790 (OP)
PUT IT ON PC AND I'LL BUY IT YOU RETARD

>>714068834
>I succeeded in making people hate my game and me

>>714068898
I'd much rather have a full version of the rock ballad version Higgs is singing while he's torturing Sam.

>>714058790 (OP)
I'm honestly shocked people buy this garbage. There was interest in the first because it was Kojima's project following MGS but now that we know what a stranding game is there shouldn't be more.

>/v/ falling for a lying faggot OP
Here’s the actual news

>Death Stranding 2 was No.1 in the UK physical charts last week. Its launch sales were -66% lower than Death Stranding 1... but different eras. It's a far more digital market today. It's 33% lower than Astro Bot's launch, but that was also a physical heavy release, too.

I wonder if SB2 will experience similar lows, like the previous game sold more because of massive drama and controversy but the sequel is a complete improvement on QoL and gameplay but sells a lot worse because it's more of the same, and people are already over the initialy novelty of it being a new IP.

>>714060429
you couldn't be more wrong

>>714066214
That's wh hapens when you have millions of games to buy.
31 > 8

>>714058790 (OP)
PlayStation 5 has no games.
PC Players can't play it yet.

>>714069026
Kojimbo is a hack, he shamelessly did the tekken thingy (from MGS4) again for the final boss, but anime style against the fucking Joker... oh, I mean Higgs.

>>714069056
Ayo hold on it's number ONE last week? When it was competing against all those hits that released mid July??? That's fucking nuts bro this is a blockbuster

>>714058790 (OP)
I don't understand, look at this incredible gameplay!

>>714058790 (OP)
Predict famitsu sales

I don’t know if it sold like shit or not, but something went incredibly wrong while he was making the game. It feels off. It reminds me of the unfinished quality of MGSV. Sam barely talks or emotes and I think a shit ton of Norman Reedus mocap is missing. There was a scene with Tomorrow where I think some VA was trying to sound like him. There are some decent QOL upgrades to the gameplay but the story seems like a big pile of nothing, even for Kojima. Maybe he was too busy scanning Hunter Schafer’s ballbag to direct it.

>>714068943
Let's be real, none of us thought the first one would be received well or be successful enough to get a sequel. I don't really care if Kojimbo is making some weird shit, it's better than the constant no passion sloppa we are fed

>>714058790 (OP)
Let it flop more! it’s not a game it’s just a leftist faggotry sim. MGS3 is going to outsell this hiv turd

>Wow that song and dance part of Alan Wake 2 was neat
>i’m going to copy it but make it a cutscene you just sit and watch and have next to no connection to the plot
Bravo kojimbo

>>714069056
Not sure how that helps you.

>>714069615
His passion is misplaced, he's passionate about hanging out with his friends, not making games. This is a vanity project for him to show off to his director friends

>>714069542
Really? It is the first one of his open world games that felt fully realized to me. There are still some obvious cut corners but not nearly as many as in MGS V or DS1.

>>714058790 (OP)
People bought 1 thinking it was going to be something else, didn't buy 2 because they know what to expect.

>>714058790 (OP)
blame the Americans
only they gage death stranding 2

>>714069984
>friends
You mean people he pays consulting fees and gives acting work to. You don’t pay your friends anon. They probably don’t even remember his name when they get their pay check and head home

>>714069278
Kojima should direct the next Euro Truck Simulator

>>714058790 (OP)
what is this embarrassing shit?

>>714058790 (OP)
Reminder
only Americans hated death stranding

>>714058790 (OP)
Apple Arcade if it real.

>>714070040
The game is fucking flat and braindead bro. I haven’t found a single place I can’t drive a truck to. What makes it feel fully realized? Kangaroos?

>>714065980
Astro Bot is so good

>>714065980
no doubt you're American then

PC

>>714071161
The fact that practically all the story missions have some unique mechanic rather than feeling like repetitive busywork, what feels like a steady plot progressiom rather than having it all concentrated in the beginning and at the end, proper regular setpieces, mechanics that are properly fleshed out and communicated.

It doesn't feel nearly as loose and padded as Kojima's last two games.

The first game fucking sucked

>>714071997
nah

Because it costs fucking $90, I am not paying that for a video game
Picking it up when its on sale for $50

>>714070146
Nah, blame Kojima for doubling down on the weird, pretentious vibes and assuming every market would eat it up. Americans just happened to be the first to go “what the hell is this UPS simulator with ghost babies?” and dipped. Everyone else followed after the walking got old by hour 10.

>>714071997
I enjoyed it minus the writing. The game went form an 8 to a 2 the moment people started talking for more than a couple of minutes, absolutely fucking terrible writing. Towards they end I felt like I was going mad, a thing would happen, it would then be explained to me, then 5 minutes later it would happen again and people would act shocked and explain it to me again, and then it would repeat.

>>714058790 (OP)
this is like kojima played alan wake 2 and decided that this sort of wacky shit is what his next game absolutely must have

>>714069278
>>714058790 (OP)
This is giving me retroactive buyers remorse for the first one.

>>714069278
Wow another reason why to just only use ziplines.

>>714069278
he could just shoot them and kill them in 3 seconds while driving. skill issue

>>714058790 (OP)
i want everyone who worked on this executed

>>714058790 (OP)
He can still pretend for it to sell 100 Kojillion copies.

>>714075626
lol. lmao even.

midwit filter strikes again.

>death stranding fails to impress
>"the western audience isn't smart enough to "get it"
>makes death stranding 2 more fun
>"aiyeeeee testers are having too much fun playing"
>makes the game more shit as result
>death stranding 2 fails to impress

what will be his excuse now?

>>714058790 (OP)
>Content or quality doesnt matter, popular = goooooood
Slopper be gone

>>714075978
Post your Letterboxd.

>>714058790 (OP)
Steep price, on an expensive console, in a recession. Probably many more factors limiting sales compared to the first one.

BUT I think the reason the first sold so well was it was the first new Kojima game in years, that was all hyped up by the gamesphere AND it was available on a console that many had already owned for years at that point. This is a release that doesn't match the scale of hype the first game held.

>>714059386
Sony funded the game

>>714058790 (OP)
It pisses me off how obvious it is he saw the Herald of Darkness dance from Alan Wake and said I WANT THAT. It works in Alan Wake, it's cringe and forced here.

>>714058790 (OP)
Here's why DS2 is not as good as DS1:

>It's too easy to navigate the world. if I go around a BT area or bandits it should be punishing and difficult. You can essentially stroll around all of the encounters. It's insulting.
>The feeling of scale in the menu map is off.
>The added weather and environmental shit doesn't make the game any more difficult. Day/night cycle is also useless.
>All of the item upgrades so far feel pointless (even moreso than DS1). Each item should have a specific point. I don't even know why we need more than one gun.
>im playing offline and there are far too many ladders and packages left around. It seems like you're never stuck in a situation without the right gear, even if you didn't pack it with you. That's a huge mistake, imo.
>I don't care about any of the people I deliver to. They are all uninteresting and don't seem to be in need the same way as the characters in DS
>I don't like the BB is dead storyline. You should have hung onto the toddler Lou until much later in the story. I'm a dad and part of what made DS so great was it was dadcore.
>I thought he would have fixed the "container repair spray" mechanic. I only used repair spray once in DS1 and realized it didn't matter, you just had to not fall, which was stupidly easy. Now it's even easier. He could have done something better with the package damage and timefall to increase difficulty and the importance of planning and weather.

FINAL THOUGHTS: The map and characters were simply better in DS1. The map definitely offered more of a challenge (until the roads were all built).

I put over 200 hours into DS1. I'm 25% of the way through DS2. I'm just itching to go back to DS1.

>>714076710
I think everyone is awake to the fact even exclusives are time limited now, we all know the game will be on PC and it'll probably again be a definitive Directors Cut edition or similar, I'm FOMO immune so waiting for a better version is zero problem for me

>>714059682
It's a character from DS1 Diehardman undercover from AI APACIt's a character from DS1 Diehardman undercover from AI APAC Lalilulelo

>>714058790 (OP)
Nobody owns a Piss5.
No one is stupid enough to buy a 700 dollar Snoy toy to play 1 game.
And the ADHD consolizoomers never gave a fuck about DS1.

in short: the sales will skyrocket when the PC port arrives and it costs 40 bucks.

I wonder why Kojima choose guitar as weapon

>>714058790 (OP)
those are physical sales. a lot of people bought the digital deluxe just to play 2 days early

>>714077856
This isn't 2021 anymore. There are close to 80 million PS5s sold
>700 dollar
No one cares about the Pro

>>714058790 (OP)
>DS1 director's cut reached it's peak all time players on steam yesterday
fuck snoy imagine hating money

Stellar Blade proved that people will just wait for the pc release instead.

It's a movie game, I can just "play" it on youtube

>>714071195
>>714065980
Astrochads keep on winning!!!

>>714058790 (OP)
It also sold 13.7485% less than what Pepsi Man sold in Indonesia, its over...

>>714058847
>this game
Retarded frogposter (redundant) is retarded.
With mental retardation.

>>714058965
Wrong. It sold KOJILLIONS

Kojima port this game to Xbox RIGHT FUCKING NOW please

>>714079448
Not a game ;/

>>714071997
yeah

>>714058847
Is this game even woke? All i've seen from it are cringy nuYakuza tier cutscenes and celeb/e-celeb wanking.

>>714078056
If I remember right, Sony is seeing nothing from the boost DS1 is getting either because Kojipro bought out their partnership in the IP and own it 100% themselves now

>>714077398
>easier than the first game
Christ is that even possible? I played it on the hardest difficulty and was never met with a single challenge. I think it just gives bosses more HP which made some of the fights a real bore

>>714078984
The story was the worst part of 1, you suffer through that dog shit to get back to comfy deliveries.

>>714058790 (OP)
wouldnt surprise me. all the gaming sites stated something like "the most anticipated game of the year" meanwhile everyone who played the first game knows what a piece of shit this was gonna be.
mr hideo "i dont like making sequels" kojima does a sequel to a walking simulator with a story that is somehow insanely worse than the first one and the ultimate proof that kojima did not write mgs 1-3.

First game only sold well because people were interested what Kojimbo was going to cook after Konami, but now we know he is a kook with some mildly strange ideas which aren't as iconic as MGS, people dipped.

>>714058790 (OP)
I don’t think enough people cared about ds1 after finishing it, if they even did, to care about a sequel. I don’t watch tv or frequent major gaming sites, but I never encountered much talk about ds2. I know I’m not the target audience, but I just do not understand the appeal of wanting a sequel to a game where you just delivered packages and watched 15 hr cutscenes. Maybe once, but again? It should have bombed harder.

>>714081239
Yrs it's very easy to navigate around obstacles or baddies.

>>714085131
just lower difficulty settings, theres even one for story mode only so you can "pretend" to win the boss fights