How come no one talks about Atelier games anymore after Ryza trilogy?

i farted bigly

they made the same mistake as monster hunter and over simplified the gameplay to the point that even the supposed wider audience doesn't want to play it anymore

this game barely came out and resalerina or w/e is around the corner. i cant keep the fuck up

>>714068642
Cope, MH World is capcom best selling game

Did they stop releasing a + version of every single atelier game?

>>714068457 (OP)
I don't play NTR games.

>>714069068
I was shitting on wilds not world but okay

>>714069510
Wilds is fastest selling mh game and we have daily threads about it.
Dunno what are you talking about.
Also, unlike latest ateleir games that don't have their own audience, Wilds was made obviously with mh4 and world fans in mind.

>>714069172
At most you'll get a PS5/Switch 2 Ryza trilogy box with all DLC sometime in the future.

I'm enjoying it right now. It's better than I expected, last time I've played an Atelier game years ago it was boring trash.

We talked about it when it released.
It's not like people talk about Ryza games specifically they just talk about how they want to fuck Ryza.

idk man I wish they'd rerelease the Ar Tonelico series instead. It kind of runs like shit on the ps2.

>>714068642
Do atelier autists seriously dislike that the game has an auto crafting option?
Really?? Because I can't imagine having to deal with so many fucking options just to craft some stuff, artificial bloat at it's finest. I like doing it manually for gear but even still not for all of it. It would so annoying to deal with all of this manually and from my memories of playing Ayesha it wasn't this complicated either.

>>714072045
Thats literally the point of the alchemy crafting.
Anyway we don't even have erotic alchemists anymore like the Arland scenes

>>714072137
>we don't even have erotic alchemists anymore l
Speak for yourself, mentally ill, low t pedo.

>>714072045
The entire point of the game is crafting autism, genius. It's in the fucking title, you run an atelier. Otherwise it'd just be a generic C list RPG which Yumia is.
But the biggest sin is that alchemy in Yumia doesn't interact with open world at all, you don't craft yourself an S quality handrail glove to zip faster, you don't make yourself a pikeaxe to grind better ore, all you synth is for combat and combat alone, and none of the quests require quality above zero. And the combat is dogshit.

>>714072215
You can just lead with the fact that you have gay trash taste next time

>>714068457 (OP)
Yumia is cute but they made crafting way too simple and the open world doesn't have shit to do
Personally I think open world just doesn't work in Atelier, it didn't work in Ryza 3 and it didn't work in Yumia

>>714072334
It would work if it was designed around what type of game this is supposed to be and it wasn't so fucking obvious the devs are mindbroken by BotW and Genshin.

>>714072326
the irony of screaming faggotry as someone who specifically think underdeveloped features are more appealing, holy shit.

Are these games all made by the same director? I can't believe how shit Shallie is compared to the kino that was Ayesha and E&L

>>714072413
Sure whatever, just go back to /pol/ or whatever garbage place you spawned from

>>714072273
>The entire point of the game is crafting autism
Yeah but then it should have been made fun. I remember the system being fun in some of the older games but now they're made it way too overdesigned to be any fun, some automation is nice. You can and still should optimize the crafting manually to get the best stuff anyway.
I think it's a good compromise
>the combat is dogshit.
It's fine.

>>714072473
Ah so now it's /pol/ huh? did they also hurt your low t fee fees?

I guess we found the low iq audience that Gust is going for now

>>714072462
No
Resliana will be made by Sophie 2's director btw

I wonder how Gust will handle the aging female Atelier audiences who no longer have the reflexes needed to handle action combat

>>714072462
?
E&L had same problem as meruru but even bigger
You had months of nothing to do in game

>>714072045
Yeah. Big part of the appeal of the whole alchemy autism is figuring a way around it's limitations. But since there are no limitations I feel nothing after crafting a perfect item.
Also even NG+ difficulty is completely braindead if you are even remotely serious about alchemy autism.

>>714072957
>even NG+ difficulty is completely braindead if you are even remotely serious about alchemy autism.
Yeah I'm on first playthrough on Very Hard and it feels completly normal difficulty wise because I managed to craft quality cap gear.

>>714072517
>the combat is fine
It's really not. There's no targeting system for generic enemies which are lumped together under a single health bar. Most of the game is spent spamming skills too quickly for any of the nuances to really matter, and then dodging when the game tells you to. That's assuming you don't nuke everything within the first couple of seconds.

>>714073132
Yeah, I've been sleepwalking through very hard difficulty with quality 300 gear. Then I've downloaded a save to unlock charismatic but it was still too easy so I've dropped it altogether.
Maybe I'll give this game another chance but limit myself to 100 quality cap or somesuch.

The auto craft made the alchemy feels pointless. Why spend 5 mins menu-ing to get 99% efficient on manual craft when auto craft took only 20 seconds to get 90% efficiency.

>>714072953
Everything was a downgrade from Ayesha and E&S in Shallie, and the game looked much worse than them. I can't be the only one who thinks its the worst game in the Dusk series

>>714072045
>from my memories of playing Ayesha it wasn't this complicated either.
Ayesha has one of the most simple alchemy systems since Arland and it's still more complex than Yumia's.

>>714069172
They did that for six games total and the last one was nine games ago.

>>714072334
>Personally I think open world just doesn't work in Atelier, it didn't work in Ryza 3 and it didn't work in Yumia
It could've worked in Ryza 3 if there was actually anything fucking in it, but Ryza 3 feels like an unfinished game.

>>714068457 (OP)
Because Yumia isn't an Atelier game

>>714068642
I hate these little animation so much. every single fucking thing I'm trying to do, there's always some stupid little animation that waste my fucking time.

>>714074968
Questionable performance is authentic to the formula though

>>714068642
Fortunately just like with Wilds, the "fastest selling" launch was followed by the fastest dropoff in sales after word of mouth spread about how bad it was.

>>714068457 (OP)
it became a generic jrpg series. you dont even have a proper atelier in yumia

>>714075029
this is why Arland and Dusk was the best ones, crafting doesn't take two minutes to do, fuk those gay ass tetris minigames and animations

Totooria sex

>>714075156
You technically do, but there's no reason to ever go back to it.

>>714068457 (OP)
Yumia was fun but I finished it ages ago. There's nothing to talk about.

How is the Marie remake, the 90s vibe is pretty neat

>>714076149
Really fucking short

>>714076149
decently enjoyable but needs multiple runs to get its many character endings. the consequence of time-limit

>>714069605
>>714069068
wilds is dogshit

it may have sold a lot but I strongly doubt it will surpass the previous installment, Rise.

Game has no legs and the expansion won't save it

>>714068457 (OP)
>Director literally said they were going for the american audience
>It flopped
Go woke go broke

>>714069605
>retard
Wilds is an objectively bad game and horribly unoptimized. There's a reason why most people went back to playing World already.

>>714079337
Why do you need to lie like that?
No one came back to world, since wilds release it keeps bleeding players

>>714080547
>Why do you need to lie like that?
It's not a lie. It's a fact.

little girls in skirts! (no void!)
little girls in skirts! (no spats!)
little girls in skirts! (pantsu!)

>>714081035
For me its no pantsu as well

>>714081601
that doesnt fit the cheer!

>>714068457 (OP)
I heard it was kinda dull so I was waiting for a sale to pick it up. Not a big fan of the FO4 base building.

there were constant threads during the sale. every sale actually. hmmmm