>the best infantry battlefield has the least movement
explain this phenomenon

>>714095623 (OP)
>Best infantry
>Can't crouch

>>714096242
you can CROUCH though

>>714095623 (OP)
>the best infantry battlefield
That would be V before they introduced cringe updates to make the game worse(TTK changes, pacific weapons, shitty maps etc.).

>>714096242
Do you sleep crouching anon?

>>714095623 (OP)
No prone

>>714095623 (OP)
>simple movement
>no prone
>no jets
>suddenly game just works
While I don't want every BF to be a streamlined console game there was valuable information gleaned from this experiment that should have been acted on.

>>714095623 (OP)
Battlefield 4 has a lot of movement though.

>>714095623 (OP)
Neostead 2000 my beloved

>>714099443
nobody says niggerjunk is the best infantry bf game though (it is neither the best vehicle bf)

>>714095623 (OP)
>teamwork based game, run and gun is not allowed
>every class compliments one another
>destruction that doesn't just look good, but also serves as a purpose to keep the matches dynamic
>damn good map designs
>still looks damn good to this day
>unmatched sound design
>every weapon felt meaty, and sounded good
>matches get intense
>no modern crap like trannies and women
Best multiplayer FPS to date, gave BF1 a chance and while it looked damn good and had good sound design, it just didn't do it for me.
BF1 prioritizes chaos over good matches due to choke points is some of the maps, all you can do is just lob grenades and hope you get a kill.

>>714095623 (OP)
>the best infantry battlefield
id argue BF4 is better with muh movement tech and micro burst management but that comes down preference.

BC2 is actually the most balanced battlefield of them all even though there's a ton of goofy exploitative bs, mostly coming down to the best class balance and vehicle balance in all the modern games. Personally i think BF1 has the best mix of movement that feels grounded but still allows for the slide.

BC2 is good but the movement does feel funky with the way sprint works, FOV being locked is goofy too

>>714095623 (OP)
It turns out that prone ruins pretty much any first person shooter. BC2 had fantastic maps and snipers having to crouch meant they were not as devastating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIrKRJ8r0d4

>>714099026
But you can't even pull of rpg jet trickshots... I don't get it. What even is Battlefield, is it actually about feeling like a little soldier in a bigger conflict? No... we need wingsuits and epic quips.

>>714099698
>run and gun is not allowed
Literally every BF is run and gun, if you think otherwise you are delusional.

>>714100475
>id argue BF4 is better with muh movement tech and micro burst management but that comes down preference.
99% of the infantry matches are more about headglitching rather than vouzou rouzouing your way to top of the leaderboards. BF4 is easily most overrated BF game.

>>714099026
no prone is beyond retarded in military setting

>>714095623 (OP)
you mean
>the most dogshit console-tier battlefield has the most dogshit movement

>>714104290
...is what I would say if I were a jungle gorilla nigger

>>714100475
Not having jets is a big thing. 100% of the time they are just a griefing presence and serve no purpose outside "we want le real battlefield therefore bombing runs n shit". Helicopters are enough.

>>714095623 (OP)
I'm a zoom zoom who started with 3, but if I had to guess, I'd say the map were probably smaller, so lots of movement wasn't necessary. That being said, maps in modern bf games are too big anyway. Hopefully bf6 reduces lobby sizes and focuses on smaller maps with more details like fleshed out interiors, completely destructible maps, etc.

>>714095623 (OP)
Limited mobility encourages better teamplay and gameflow than having everyone be a supersoldier sprinting, sliding and vaulting all over the map and objectives at olympic speeds.

>>714106659
Jets aren't a problem, it's tanks and helicopters that are cancer. Then BF4 made everything worse by adding scout helicopters, gun boats and buffing IFVs.

>>714107391
Literal skill issue, just strap C4 to a jeep and let allah take the wheel.

battlefield is for adhd esports zoomies. play squad and arma, real mans games.

>>714096242
You can crouch you can't prone.

>>714107391
NTA but you're wrong, jets are the problem. Jets don't add anything good to the experience of anyone outside the jets. Infantry, ground vehicles, and helicopters can have meaningful interactions with each other that aren't instant, unavoidable death where jets only offer two states:
1. Nowhere near you and completely irrelevant to anything you're doing.
2. lol ur dead
The transition between these states takes seconds at most and unless you're staring at the sky you're going to miss it. There's no room for fun gameplay here.

>>714109476
real faggots games

>>714103881
>99% of the infantry matches are more about headglitching
feel like that's every shooter based off of the cod stop and pop formula. Making youself less exposed is always better but there's also counters to stopping players from camping
>>714106659
>>714107391
>>714109567
bf4 did jets the best imo where they only serve to be counters to helis outside of the attack jet which might honestly be better balanced than the attack heli itself

I sunk unimaginable amount of time into this game back then. Nothing comes close ever since.

>>714103431
How did DICE end up like this and how did EA allow it to happen?

>>714107391
A skilled jet player can ruin an entire game for everyone on both teams

>>714109476
>CoD players dislike BF for being a milisim
>Milisim players dislike BF for being big map CoD

>>714109476
>>714111858
This is funny because I remember this big mw3 vs bf3 holywar and people saying how advanced and realistic bf3 looked with its all out war shit, unlike mw3 which is just all about running and gunning. Then the game comes out and metro 24/7 servers start popping everywhere.

>>714099698
also
>no jets, so no fucking top gun mavericks carrying the team

>>714112368
>join match
>see an autistic attack heli pilot with a 88-1 KD
>leave match

>>714113679
oh yeah, I forgot there was helicopters in BC2 lol.

>>714113679
That's a skill issue.
There are a bunch of counterplays against helis in BC2. Even tanks main guns can snipe them from a distance.

>>714095623 (OP)
The map design.

>>714114780
Map design.
No lag compensation.
The weapon accuracy.
Bullet drop.
The lighting and color scheme.
PRIVATE
FUCKING
SERVERS

>>714114780
>tfw winning on one of those long Rush maps
best feeling, especially if the teams were balanced
i think valparaiso was my favorite, though it was horrible if the teams were imbalanced

>>714116405
This map was good until the last objectives, then it becomes a stupid melee.

>>714116604
trick was to jump off the blackhawk and hide behind the defenders' spawn to distract them and give time for the rest of the team to get to the M-COMs
very challenging map in general

>>714110806
Retarded marketers looked at most popular bf videos on YT.
They didn't realise that part of the reason why people liked jet loops was because it was difficult to pull off.
They only saw flashing lights and thought that's what players want.

>>714109476
Squad is on par with GTA rp. Every server is infested with cringy amerifats screeching and being shit

>>714109567
I've been playing BF4 conquest a lot recently and I haven't had any issues with jets.

>recon
>SV-98 + MP443 speed build
>mortar and motion sensors

>>714117721
I have almost 2k hours and jets are rarely and issue.

its helicopters and THE FUCKING TANKS

MY GOD THE FUCKING TANKS IN BF4 ARE SO AIDS

ESPECIALLY WHEN NO OTHER MUTHER FUCKKER IS TRYING TO BLOW THEM UP

BC2's tanka vs. infantry was so much better

>>714109523
I'm convinced no multiplayer FPS should have prone

>>714096242
you couldn't prone tourist! not crouch.

>>714118027
Please no Reddit spacing.

>>714118027
This is why I always play with friends, randos are fucking retarded and useless when it comes to dealing with vehicles. If we see a tank or ifv we take it down.

Remind there are community run servers for this, look up venice unleashed (tho that may be the BF3 one, not sure, but you'll find both)

This is The Best Battlefield

>>714118509
Aren't the console port and PC port identical?

When will games use best girl again

>>714118615
No Modern Combat is an entirely separate game from Battlefield 2

>>714117929
>how to lose all objectives with a 20:1 KDA

>>714118694
G36 with shittier polymer furniture has now been replaced by 14lb sigger battle rifle chambered in 6.gay.

>>714118027
>BC2's tanka vs. infantry was so much better
It's all fun and games until some engineer sneaks up on your tank, lays down mines and tricks you into backing up into them by damaging you with a repair torch. That engineer is me.

>>714095623 (OP)
It had the best loadouts and bullet physics. Many great maps

>>714118694
>The gun that makes the U.S military constantly seethe

I love the fish gun

>>714118948
>shittier polymer furniture
That shit was mlock before picatinny rails became popular for everything.

>>714110927
This is true and based on reality

>>714119007
I'll just flank with a bike rigged with C4.
Blowing up 2 tanks next to each other is so fucking funny.

>>714119117
It was a "proprietary attachment system" that only worked with the XM8 and was never going to take off.

"""Movement""" in shooters is super faggy unless it's based like Tribes or fun like Gears 1.

>>714095623 (OP)
Rush required you to not be a fucking mongoloid and limited 360 noscope retards from camping halfway across the map.
This filtered the mentally handicapped out making online experience infinitely more enjoyable in the long run.

>>714119257
>proprietary attachment system
Yes, because it was the first one to do that, also specifically demanded by the army to be the open standart.

>>714118112
Honestly agree. Crouch and lean are universally shit features in FPS.

>>714112175
I was mad about that too especially after they nerfed mortars. The first courtyard was 50+ kills easy

>>714119980
prone and lean*
im retrarded

>>714114732
My favorite is the underslung grenade launcher

>tfw using the remmington with slugs

>>714120816
Best sniper

>>714120816
The amount of seething this caused from enemy snipers was almost as much as black hawk pilots getting upset at my tracer darts

man i miss battlefield. i tried to play 4 a couple years ago and there were only fake bot servers and annoying spam shit

>>714120816
>>714121602
>>714121776
Nah, the rapid fire shotguns with slugs were true kino

Saiga 12 with slugs is to this day maybe the most satisfying weapon i've ever used in an FPS

Babbycompany faggots don't know shit about Battlefield or FPS in general.

>>714123335
You think you can bait oldfags with a weak post like this?

>>714120816
This but with the NS 2000 and using the pump skip/reload strat that people learned how to do in that game
tfw when you master that shit

call of duty 4 and this were peak fpskino. haven't played an equivalent "modern" fps in a very long time, saw some guy saying that modern call of duties are way too fast paced and uncomfy.
>*cracks open white monster™*
yep... kids these days dont understand cod4 was the best... and bad company 2 was damn fine too...

>>714118027
>play tank and start to dominate
>suddenly 85% of enemy team switches to engi and rockets start flying everywhere
kek every time

>tfw picrel with MK2 explosives
the seething was unparalleled

>>714095623 (OP)
Is it still playable on PC though? I only played it on console and do remember it feeling good there but I hated how small teams had to be

>>714129119
Tracking a heli going full speed with this was peak. Do it 4 times in a row and suddenly the enemy team stops using the helis. Hilarious.
>>714129179
EA pulled the plug. I can't log in to my multiplayer account so no server search either.

panama canal map was fucking kino its too bad the maps were never upgraded for PC to add more cover and stuff

>hardcore mode
>spawn camping with the silenced SVU sniper
>tfw no gay ass killcams to give me away
>no 3D spotting to give me away
the only thing that can give me away is if a team mate dies near me and my guy yells out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf_C3JVz7DA

>>714129412
FUCK

>>714129412
you have to get project rome.

I still play from time to time.

>>714129552
What is the playercount? I don't want to play 2v2 on xbox hueg maps.

>>714129620
on the weekends there is usually 1 server that is full.

they actually managed to program bots too

>spend all match competing against my buddy to see who can get the longest distance headshot
good times

>>714129412
>>714129179
>>714129521
see
>>714129552
>>714118503

>>714129930
I think I vaguely remember this but never got around to it