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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:22:52 AM No.714130838
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Why was Wario not in Smash Melee? He was the only Mario Party veteran who missed it.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:26:07 AM No.714131040
Because Sakurai HATES Wario. He thinks he just farts and eats garlic
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:27:10 AM No.714131103
>>714130838 (OP)
No moveset.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:34:03 AM No.714131506
>>714130838 (OP)
Not enough dev time was the answer for pretty much everyone the team wanted to include. It's a miracle they managed to put in as much as they did in 13 months.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:58:08 AM No.714132796
>>714131103
Take his Wario Land moves
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:02:58 AM No.714133050
>>714131103
his wario land moves would've been better than what we got with his motorcycle and his brap
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:05:42 AM No.714133195
>>714131103
Smash Remix disproves this, negroid
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:09:22 AM No.714133396
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>>714130838 (OP)
Because Sakurai's a Wario-hating faggot. His Smash version doesn't represent Land OR Ware whatsoever, and they still won't put in Waluigi. He was probably forced into Brawl by HQ because of Smooth Moves being a Wii launch title.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:14:13 AM No.714133686
I would trade all the clones for a Wario Land-inspired moveset. I don't give a fuck if the roster looked lackluster and Wario stopped being a Mario character in 1994, so too many Mario characters was a bad argument.

If anything, there aren't enough Mario characters.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:16:04 AM No.714133786
>>714130838 (OP)
Toad wasn't either
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:17:12 AM No.714133856
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>>714133686
>too many Mario characters was a bad argument.
>If anything, there aren't enough Mario characters.
Almost half of the characters shown in this group cast art are smash characters, plus one enemy that was included cause it's Sakurai's favorite.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:18:05 AM No.714133902
I've always liked Waluigi, but I only recently found out that he was kind of inserted by Camelot into some sport game just because Wario needed a partner. There's zero thought behind Waluigi, and Nintendo itself doesn't even really acknowledge his role as a character.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:29:15 AM No.714134502
>>714133902
Recently? That shit is common knowledge, retarded zoomer.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:30:58 AM No.714134583
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>>714133902
Waluigi's such a conceptually weird character.
>Mario is Mario.
>Luigi is the derivative of Mario, who later gets fleshed out to be thoughtful, sensitive, and scared somewhat easily.
>Wario is another derivative of Mario, who starts as a gross exaggeration of Mario. Mario's a little pudgy, Wario is grotesquely obese. Mario is short, Wario has stubs for legs. Mario grabs coins, Wario has a ravenous obsession with wealth. He later gets fleshed out to be cocky, humorous, a little gross, and completely fearless.
>Waluigi is the Luigi to Wario, who is the parody derivative of Mario. He is a derivative of a derivative of a parody.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:32:05 AM No.714134656
>>714133856
> plus one enemy that was included cause it's Sakurai's favorite.
Stop lying faggot
https://www.gameinformer.com/interview/2018/11/21/masahiro-sakurai-talks-piranha-plant-spirits-and-20-years-of-super-smash-bros

>I’m actually not paying too much focus on the surprise element when we introduce a new fighter. The surprise element quickly fades once the announcement has been made. Rather, I believe it’s important to have a good balance as a game. In the past titles in the series, Mr. Game & Watch, R.O.B. and Duck Hunt Dog were some of the examples we offered outside of people’s typical expectations. However, if we don’t have these types of fighters, and we only had typical “hero/heroine” type fighters in the lineup, there’s not much difference. It’s probably not very interesting. Correct?
>Also, unlike some main characters from some (not widely known) franchises, Piranha Plant is a character everyone knows well. And, I want to make sure to remind everyone that it is a limited-time offer fighter everyone can get for free as an early-purchase bonus.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:33:14 AM No.714134739
>>714134583
Wario was a character before Luigi, not comparible. N64 era Luigi was not consistent.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:34:15 AM No.714134809
>>714134656
This is the cocksucker that thinks we need 8 samefaced sword-wielding fire emblem lords. I'm not taking his word on "variety".
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:35:31 AM No.714134886
>>714134739
True, but it's not like Luigi's fear was entirely a Gamecube+ era addition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dduvx-dEySY
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:36:56 AM No.714134976
>>714130838 (OP)
Bigger question: why was he left out of the Mario Kart World cover? Even Waluigi is present. Does somebody at Nintendo HQ hate Wario?
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:37:57 AM No.714135027
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>>714134976
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:40:26 AM No.714135158
>>714134809
Cope, more people know piranha plant than Bomberman, Isaac or whatever the fuck you wanted.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:40:59 AM No.714135185
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>>714134976
>>714135027
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:41:28 AM No.714135214
>>714135027
>>714135185
Grow up faggot, its just a cover.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:42:14 AM No.714135268
>>714134976
>>714135027
>>714135185
>>714135214
he's above bowser jr in the sky retards
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:42:29 AM No.714135287
>>714135027
>>714135185
He’s right there you blind faggot. Holy shit you are retarded.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:43:29 AM No.714135352
>>714135158
People also know what a waddle dee is, yet the spear one is constantly cucked.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:44:28 AM No.714135413
>>714135352
>Goomba, with a hat
How about "No"
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:45:54 AM No.714135501
>>714135214
Cool it with the antisemitism.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:52:33 AM No.714135890
>>714135352
Every Super Mario Bros enemy is A-list, Kirby ones are C-list at best. your old high school friends from 2007 knows what a Goomba and Koopa is, but not a Waddle Dee and Bronto Burt.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:53:43 AM No.714135950
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>>714131103
He objectively had more special moves than Mario in 2001 unless you wanted to start giving Mario all his powerups (e.g. raccoon suit, hammer suit) at once. He had multiple grabs and could carry enemies around (think Donkey Kong's cargo throw), a ground pound, a shoulder bash, and Wario Land 2 and 3 had a number of "powerups" that afflicted Wario when he was hit by a certain enemy or object; you could take one of those like Vampire Wario and use that for his Up+B, make his Wario Land 3 roll into his dash attack etc.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:59:50 AM No.714136297
>>714130838 (OP)
Because it was rushed. With more time we probably could've gotten him, Dedede, and Diddy in Melee.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:03:45 AM No.714136512
>>714130838 (OP)
Wasn't there a Sakurai(?) interview where he said they were going to add Wario in Melee but didn't want to add too many Mario characters? Only to proceed to add Dr. Mario? What a retard
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:03:50 AM No.714136525
>>714130838 (OP)
Because they didn't have time. Peach and Bowser got more votes in thr survey. It's the same reason why we didn't get king dedede
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:06:00 AM No.714136647
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>>714133686
>If anything, there aren't enough Mario characters.
I agree. The cast in pic related alone have more variety in their designs alone and the title of the series alludes to Mario, may as well have fun with it

>>714134656
>I’m actually not paying too much focus on the surprise element when we introduce a new fighter.

And then this came out:
>As for Piranha Plant, Sakurai knows some people are upset about it, asking why they're adding someone who's not even a protagonist, but that's exactly why they decided to do it.

https://www.dualshockers.com/masahiro-sakurai-super-smash-bros-ultimate-famitsu-interview-translation-development-new-characters-esports/
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:07:56 AM No.714136750
>>714131103
He could have had all the SML3 hats.