Could anyone have saved Xbox or was their fate sealed about the Xbone DRM and Kinect flopped.
The series x,s sold even worse than the Xbox one and all their exclusives are going to ps5.

WoW port is needed

>>714137830 (OP)
Should've never existed. It was a big mistake.

>>714137830 (OP)
>Could anyone have saved Xbox or was their fate sealed about the Xbone DRM and Kinect flopped.
ESL?

>>714138181
This, add PlayStation to that list too, fuck them both.

xbox is cursed by always having the toxic safety net of a parent company who can never go bankrupt.
Same thing with Playstation
The fear of failure keeps you hungry and driven.

>>714140886
This is why non-video game companies had no business in video games. Gaming will be so much better under Nintendo and Valve.

Eh, they're better off being a third-party pubisher at this point. Even their xbox games sell better on other consoles.

>>714140572
Playstation did nothing wrong.

>>714141515
It helped bring normalfags into gaming amplified by Xbox.

>>714140886
The thing is that Playstation actually did have a good impact on gaming despite that, even Xbox to a lesser extent. But back then, video games weren't bigger and more important than Hollywood movies, so now we have those types coming into the gaming industry and bringing all of those bad habits with them. Even worse because the vast majority of them are people who failed getting into Hollywood in the first place, so they're just using games to do what they couldn't legitimately (See Neil Druckmann), and it's been poisoning gaming for almost two decades now.

First they went pants on head retarded with the DRM and Kinect. They really wanted the Xbone to be a cable box. Then they started buying out studios and doing nothing with them. They failed make decent sequels to successful IPs, causing more people to leave. Lastly, Phil goes on to say that great games don't sell systems when he puts out complete shit for games. He says this after years of saying every year for xbox is bigger than ever!

They got complacent after the 360. The worst part is, they never really stopped with the DEI crap when they were clearly hurting from it. This ruined some IPs and they can't figure out why. Once Peter Moore was gone, it was over. Xbox kept bringing in suits who didn't have a backgrounds in the industry or a clue about it, doesn't help that they look like frauds or greasy corporate fucks.

biggest blunders in a mostly ordered list
>Anything and everything pertaining to the launch of the Xbox One
>343 Industries
>Not pouring infinite money into Rockstar as a get back at Sony having home field advantage in Japan (I'm sure they're at least tried this)

>>714137830 (OP)
Xbox could still be saved.
All they need is a halo that is so good that people jizz themselves while playing it and a fable game that transcends time and space cause of how good it is, both selling 30 million units each and thus saving xbox.

>>714142309
>Not pouring infinite money into Rockstar as a get back at Sony having home field advantage in Japan (I'm sure they're at least tried this)
They did in fact plan a potential buyout, but Take Two is actually worth like 7 times what Activision was when Microcock bought them, and obviously Take Two wasn't about to let go of Rockstar when they can make one GTA game every 13+ years that'll continuously rake in easy money without needing to put any serious effort after launch. Even Sony can't get them to bend the knee anymore like they used to.

>>714142696
I didn't clarify but I don't mean buying them. Just locking up something like marketing rights would have done them a lot of good. Now the price for that has to be in the order of tens of billions.

>>714137938
Ah yes, the dying game of a dying genre for the dying console. Pottery.

>>714142640
>Xbox can still be
It's over, man

>>714137830 (OP)
If XBOX dies, America is out of console market. I wonder if someone like Tencent makes their own console as a response.

I don't give a shit
The only thing I use of theirs these days are their series x controllers and now there are a billion copycat controllers that feel the same and cost about the same

>>714142965
No one else is entering the console market, when PlayStation dies, that's the end of home consoles. Console and PC gaming are condensing, console handheld will just be Nintendo, PC handheld will just be Valve. Trying to challenge either in today's market will be suicidal.

It was retarded for them to invest that much into kinect. Microsoft didn't learn from the 360 at all. There was one reason it sold better than the ps3 and nobody ever talks about it

They released it one year before the ps3 and for cheaper. That's it. That's why it sold so well. That was the magic of it all. They could have done something like that again and won the next gen too. Shit, maybe instead of investing like $50 billion into kinect or whatever it was they just release the xbone for $100 or offer free online or something. Probably would have been cheaper considering how kinect was shit and cost them a ton of money. They could have done it but they got too fancy

>>714143828
More than just investing into the kinect, they were complete idiots on how they invested. They never even made any goddam games for that thing. Their most compelling games were third party shit from the 360, and those got killed because of the online licencing shit. Dance Central and Just dance.

>>714142965
Tencent's hardware game is weak, and Google couldn't pull it off. I do think the chinese try it. They have workable handheld hardware and phones. Getting that to settop box scale is something that I think they'll try. I think Amazon will try in the streaming realm, but fail.

I mean why is a phone with a decent controler at a decent price and proper integration so hard to get right?

the time to save Xbox was around 2015, removing paid online, cutting the price to 300 and investing in external studios that can complete games autonomously or almost and and change the method of hiring. That ship has now sailed.

>>714137830 (OP)
That sucks. Series consoles are geniunely the best console hardware this gen.

>>714137830 (OP)
No one could save them. Microsoft policy dictates that everything needs to be shit, so they can only stay in business where they have a monopoly position and don't need to worry about quality.

>>714137830 (OP)
Xbone would have done better had Halo 4 been a launch title and had they made the Kinect optional at launch, not mandatory for the first year. Then they could've released MCC in a playable state. Xbone actually did have a few decent games early on. Sunset Overdrive, Dead Rising 3 and Titanfall were pretty good. Just needed Halo and a sincere apology. Sad thing is, the all digital hell they envisioned is here, and few people actually care.

>>714141846
>back then, video games weren't Hollywood movies
>but then sony came and made movie games
wow
You know which games are bigger than Hollywood movies? CoD, FIFA, GTA and a bunch of gacha and other phone trash.

>>714137830 (OP)
They had to PRred-into-success crap/mid games all their existence bro. Halo and Gears. Literally no other game got shilled that much to success while being crap.
Now those are dead, xbox is dead.