It's better.

Nah

>>714187234 (OP)
-to start the switch

Wee11 is THE most dangerous operating system since the Millennium Edition.
A fine reason to switch to Linux.

>Windows 11 is so shit MS supports 10 further
When will they fire all the shitty coders and use something usefull instead of Reactnative? And when will they stop the no one asked features?

>>714188230
Never.
The next step of theirs will be a subscription based OS with nothing but Windows Store apps.

>>714187234 (OP)
>10 is shit I'm sticking with 7!!!
>11 is shit I'm sticking with 10!!!
Are wintoddlers now seriously pretending that W10 is good? Being a windows user sounds like a form of stockholm syndrome.

>>714188230
Windows devs are just GNOME devs in disguise.

>>714188460
Not OP but Windows is shit since 8 and I switched to Linux after 10.
>>714188547
At least MS doesn't do Wayland tier fuckery

>>714188230
>When will they fire all the shitty coders
They would need to get rid of the indian CEO first.

So which Linux OS is ideal? I also prefer to have something troon-free.

>>714188009
Is that pluton shit real? I will never use windows again if it's actually prohibiting you from opening "copyrighted files."

>>714188919
Welp Arch is troon central so that's out. Gentoo is mildly based but also autistic

I actually can't tell the difference between 11 and 10. It's still shit. But I'm not a primary windows user. Is it the stupid centered start menu bar? You can change it back to normal in the settings.

>>714188919
>linux
>troon free

>>714189302
Dude troons use the internet too, are you going to stop using the internet?

>>714187234 (OP)
i'll stay on 10 till i dont have an option

There are motherboard and CPU hardware limit for installing Windows 11. That means processors from before 2018 can't really run it. This is because Windows 11's primary hardware security (Core Isolation) and motherboard TPM need exist physically. Third worlders who run GTX 970s and other 11 year old PC components while PC platform warring are automatically eliminated from going up to Windows 11. Virtualization (Called SVM on AMD) also needs to be enabled in the BIOS as it's defaulted to Off but once again the turd world of Eastern Europe, Indian, South America, Southeast Asia finds the BIOS menu very scary to navigate.

Virtualization in of itself is a performance eater but modern CPUs can enable it without any performance loss sorta like FrameGen on older GPUs eat into performance if they don't have the overhead. FrameGen and FSR don't work properly if you run out of VRAM. Anyway older CPUs incur a notable gaming performance drop which is one of the reasons Windows 11 support was dropped. People would be complaining about Windows 11 slowing down their gaming performance because of virtualization running in the background.

not a chance

>>714188919
Troons are everywhere, but despite the reputation Arch is the least political distro out there. They will likely put XLibre into the main repo too (unlike ChimeraOS and others).
>>714189202
They rewrote everything in shitty reactnative language so everything is slower while consumes more of your PC. Also AI, Recall and other bs.
>>714189453
You can bypass those but any nonretard would go with LTSC, which doesn't require those iirc.

>>714188919
ive been using linux mint recently and it's pretty nice

>>714189202
>I actually can't tell the difference between 11 and 10.
Then you're blind and tech-illiterate.
11 is indeed just EVEN WORSE Wee 10, but the changes are just extra Gestapo tier:

>cannot move nor resize Task Bar
>R-click menu has a SEPARATED menu for the default functions people actually use
>ReCall AI records EVERYTHING you do in a searchable form
>Mandatory updates and upgrades still a thing, still breaking shit every single time
>Install size and spec requirements are 4 times higher than that of Wee 10s, which itself required twice more storage space and better specs than Win7, which uses the same code base.
>Pushes the Windows Store cancer and ads in the OS frontrow center, clearly trying to form an Apple-style locked ecosystem.
>Still does not allow changing the default web browser as smoothly as ALL past Windows versions.

>>714189384
So long as they're not actively participating in projects, e.g. nexus mod site.

>>714188919
no OS is troon-free, not just Linux. use live USBs and Debian to install a bunch of different desktop environments to try out before committing to one. then get an Ubuntu spin based on that DE and go from there.

Cut out all the god damn telemetry and legacy code compatibility and it could've been better than MacOS and rival Linux in terms of gaming performance but oh well we're stuck with shitdows 11 for next 10 years

I've always been hesitant to go full Linux. Does proton work well enough for most games? Is Nvidia still shit on Linux?

>>714188230
The problem with a business model built on forcing OEMs to buy your new OS no matter what, and in which users have no say, is that there is no reason to ever respond to the needs or desires of users.
Microsoft's only incentive is to do the bare minimum to maintain control over OEMs and keep any other OSes from being pre-installed.

Microsoft doesn't see users as a market they need to serve. Rather they are a resource to be mined in order to increase shareholder value.

>>714188919
>I also prefer to have something troon-free.
stick to windows then

>>714189453
As a 10 holdout I use this to my advantage.

>>714191174
>proton work well enough for most games?
It is as good as, or superior to the compatibility layer that NT uses to run win32 games. The main "issue" is it blocks games that load NT Kernel Malware. Unlike Windows, most OSes view attempting to install a Rootkit as a major security issue.

>Is Nvidia still shit on Linux?
Only compared to AMD because of the Linux exclusive drivers, and because old Nvidia hardware isn't great at Vulkan.
Just saw Nvidia is discontinuing support for their pre-RTX hardware. So it isn't a bad time to upgrade if you're still on an old card.

>>714190178
>Then you're blind and tech-illiterate.
The irony of a wintoddler calling me tech-illiterate. You use that garbage OS because you are too stupid to use anything else.

>>714191174
>Does proton work well enough for most games?
yes
>Is Nvidia still shit on Linux?
just make sure you use an OS that's either rolling, like OpenSUSE or Arch, or start out with a distro that keeps their proprietary drivers up-to-date, like Ubuntu, but you'll have to run major updates within a 9-month window or risk having to perform a full re-install
fuck Fedora, Red Hat, and IBM

>>714187234 (OP)
each time windows keeps getting better and better
is another time baby ducks miss a chance to finally switch to linux

>>714188919
One with statically linked binaries. Oh, common troonix L.

>>714188919
ubuntu
choose a "flavor" that has a user interface you like
it's been the go to for 20 years now for reliability

>>714192048
No, I use Win10 (IOT LTSC Enterprise edition 2021) because I need some very specific programs to do my JOB.

I was on Windows 7, the best operating system ever made, up until late last year, and would still use it had Microcock not butchered the apps we use by essentially removing Win7 compatibility and even cockblocking installation attempts.

For anything else, I could've already managed just fine with Linux ~5 years ago.

>>714187234 (OP)
if it was better it'd be common sense and you wouldn't need these threads

>>714190178
>Its SOOOOO different W10 was actually good!!!!
Typical winshit user history revisionism. You have stockholm syndrome. Get help.

>>714192349
Okay I take it back you're mildly based

>>714192036
>>714192209
Thanks lads! Yeah, I've got a 3070 so I'm good. I'm gonna play around with Arch I think to see how things work, and test if there're any surprises with my hardware and whatnot.

With SteamOS finally out there is it time to ditch windows and dualboot linux+steam?

>>714187234 (OP)
No thanks, I'll stay on W10 until 2032

>>714188919
>Linux
lol
lmao
Install Windows 10 IoT LTSC 2021
You get to have security updates from MS until 2032

I have it on my gay man laptop and Rog Ally X. My desktop has W10. I much prefer Windows 10.

How the fuck is Recall even legal? I mean at this point they're not even trying to hide that their OS is spyware anymore

>>714193958
If you're one of the richest companies in the world you can get away with anything.

>>714187234 (OP)
you are brown

>>714187234 (OP)
>It's better.
As MS-DOS? Yes! ...maybe

>>714188230
Microsoft's competition is walled garden Apple which will never let their OS be on anything but their own devices, and a billion fragmented Linux distros that no normalfags wants to deal with. Windows lived through Vista and 8 while holding onto their overwhelming monopoly, they have no incentive to ever try. They'll keep pushing services and data harvesters harder every year, with the only opponent being government intervention.

Just like 7, people will effectively be forced to move from 10 as it's abandoned, even if it takes another decade. And just like 10fags, they'll gaslight themselves into the mentality of 'well at least it's not as bad as the newest version of Windows', despite it being only marginally less fucked. And the cycle will continue forever

I just wish there was a good Linux distro
>Fedora
Not stable
>(K)buntu
Snapcrap
>Mint
Cinnamon
>Debian KDE
pretty much the only good one

>>714187234 (OP)
the hunter becomes the hunted

>>714188940
i have a butload of torrented movies, it never happened to me

I did a fresh install of w11 with Microsoft's official image, used my Microsoft acc, didn't do any debloat and for some reason Windows Spotlight (auto change wallpapers every day) is just broken - doesn't work for lockscreen at all, and occasionally works for desktop but for some reason switches from Spotlight to Slideshow every time

Spotlight worked flawlessly on my w10. Why is such a basic feature not working on a fresh official install is beyond me

>>714187234 (OP)
>uh yes, constantly sending data to microsoft so they can show you more accurate ads is better for you beacause... it's just better, okay???

>>714188009
>>714188940
>>714194715
It's a fake screenshot that was posted by a mentally ill redditor

>>714194982
Why are /g/eets like this?

>>714190309
when did you retards agree that pajeets are somehow better than troons

>>714194982
let me guess

XP and 7 were the best. I used Start11 to turn my basic interface back into Windows 7 and then just changed all the system sounds to Windows 7 ones. I am Home.

Might do XP in the future.

>>714194421
Not entirely true. There are a few corporate backed Linux distributions that tower above the others, and Microsoft's monopoly has been shrinking. Mostly because more Linux distributions come pre-installed on hardware that wouldn't work well with Windows. SteamOS is the most recent one, and the first you might want to run on a Gaming PC.
The big problem in the desktop space is that because Microsoft maintains such tight control over the OEMs desktop systems, and because almost no users install their own OS, there is no room for anything to gain market share within that segment.
Which is why all the Linux distributions that have caught on were aimed at growing non-traditional computing device segments.

>>714187234 (OP)
Cope.

>>714195652
Anon, It's not even close.

>>714194562
>11
>hunter

lmao, only normalfags install W11 when W10 IoT LTSC is readily available and so easy to install and activate.

>>714187234 (OP)
Gonna switch to Linux once Win 11 forcefully becomes obligatory.
It's such a piece of shit.
>>714188009
I updatee to it once and lost all my NVMe starting disk data, and it got fucking blocked. I was lucky that I was able to recover it. Piece of shit had it's firewall disabled (same with it's AV) and there were no way to enable it. Lots of basic usefull programs that comes with the OS missing, couldn't download a shit from the Store (it wasa legitimate win copy tho), I asked Microsoft to help me with the problems (and I told them that I tried their "solutions" that they posted and nothing worked, they never answered me), problems with Regedit, etc.
Never in my life had so many problems with an OS like what happened here.
Not going to buy any Microshit OS for the rest of my life

>>714188230
Look at their CEO.

>>714188940
i have it under W10 too, you click "more" then ignore

How do we even compete troonixsisters? We're we the fags all along?

>>714188460
I am still on 7 you dumbo
And yes 10 is better than 11 even if 10 is crap, it just 11 is even worse

Realistically how bad is it really to stay on a Windows OS after Microjew stops security updates?

>>714194421
kinda, the joke is many people look at the retarded average consumer and think they will just swap to windows 11 without even thinking about it.
In fact normally they just end up dropping pc use entirely and go phone only if hassled too much right now. Windows lost 400 million devices and mac shit continues to show trends of decline with no change.
>https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/windows-seemingly-lost-400-million-users-in-the-past-three-years-official-microsoft-statements-show-hints-of-a-shrinking-user-base

So while linux is making gains, windows and microsoft will take the worst and monumental blow from smartphones.

>>714195659
>few corporate backed Linux distributions that tower above the others
which ones are those?

>>714200202
you will start receiving russian mail brides and packages with chinesse hookers inside
I am still on win7 and seriously have zero problem outside some game refusing to work(very rare)

>>714200208
the truth is that these people are dead
they are dead

>>714200202
Your computer will explode the next day and someone is going to kick your dog at night.

That aside, nothing will happen, lacking security updates won't do much to any users with common sense that knows not to download sketchy shit.

>>714188009
>.avi
what year is it ?

>>714200894
2047, 3 years after great AI uprising, 14 years after alien invasion and 20 years after 3rd ww

>>714200202
Depends on the exploits discovered and if you do something that makes you vulnerable to those exploits
In any case you can use MAS to activate ESU for security updates until 2028 on every edition except Home (you can also use MAS to easily switch editions)
Or install W10 IoT LTSC 2021 and also activate with MAS for security updates until 2032
If you have any question about this kind of stuff the Windows thread on /g/ has resources and Anons who will help you
>>>/g/105762187

>>714187234 (OP)
LTSC chads mog you

>>714187234 (OP)
I had to install ltsc 11 because the hdr implementation sucks donkey cock on 10. It is what it is

>>714187234 (OP)
fuck no, the fucking menu is the most buggy and slow shit, i have to use this piece of shit for work every fucking day and its the worst fucking experience ever, also the context menu blows too

Edge best browser

>>714187234 (OP)
>better
>ms already ACKnowledged to have lost 400 million since 2022
>sit and watch how ms extends w10 support for free

>>714201137
>h8s updooting
>uses the updooter version

>>714201137
11 LTSC exists

>>714187234 (OP)
it's better

>>714187234 (OP)
if it is then does it have less than 50% marketshare

>>714203792
As long as they mantain mv2 for uBO. And ONLY for that long.

>>714191174
Works for almost all games that don't have a kernel-level anti-cheat. And only a few games which have kernel-level anti-cheat support Linux.
But apparently Windows is removing their AV from the Windows kernel, which could mean that they kick out 3rd party software from the kernel too. So it's possible that in a few months Microsoft will solve the anti-cheat problem on Linux by also having it on Windows.

>Is Nvidia still shit on Linux?
Generally yes. Not in terms of performance, but convenience.

>>714187234 (OP)
It's really not. I'm only using it because my MOBO WiFi 7 only works on win11.At least their 23h2 version is stable so far.

It just works

Microshills, defend 11's right-click context menu.

>>714205278
>implying troonix distributions don't ack themselves doing basic updating

>>714207185
Anything based on Fedora Atomic (like Bazzite) doesn't.

>>714188919
sorry all of them are troon and nigger infected
just go to windows 11 for true aryan kino

>>714193549
Yes

>>714207105
show me more options

>>714188940
Of course it's not, the single most damning argument against linuxfags is the fact that half the shit they say about windows is shit they made up