Can we just be honest and say this shits all over DKC2 and Mario 3? It’s the best platformer Miyamoto ever made.

>>714205893 (OP)
It's a good game. Raresnoys don't want to admit it because it proves that the fake Miyamoto quote is true.

>>714205893 (OP)
Its pretty good but I dunno about beating SMB3
Didn't care much for any of the DKC games

it's definitely my favorite 2d platformer, yes.
and for anyone complaining about crying baby mario, that is a literal skill issue, your penalty for sucking ass.

>>714205893 (OP)
I honestly have no clue why people like DKC2/3. They're both shit compared to DKCR/TF.
But yes, OP, Yoshi's Island is elder God tier.

>>714205893 (OP)
The only platformer better than it was SMW. It's unironically just such a good and unique game it's hard to match the quality.

it's probably the best retro platformer I can think of. Wario Land 4 is also great but GBA isn't really retro
SMB3 / SMBW feel like you're walking on ice, the weight and momentum is shit whereas Yoshi feels perfectly tuned
the SNES DK games are pretty weak. the player sprite takes up way too much space and it's far too zoomed in to be a decent platformer

>>714205893 (OP)
As a kid, I was laying in bed sick with mono, with a swollen neck, barely staying awake because I was always sleepy and playing Yoshi from my bed. Fun times 10/10 would get mono again.

>>714205893 (OP)
This game is annoying to 100% due to the star system and the red coins sometimes not loading in.

>>714205893 (OP)
>It’s the best platformer Miyamoto ever made.
He was the only a producer, doubt he contributed much in how the game turned out.

Can we just be honest and say that nintendo platformers have a "stop and wait" issue that damages their replayability and puts them below the faster-paced Genesis Sonic games?

>>714205893 (OP)
absolute shit compared to any DKC or any 2d mario

>>714207410
Sonic games relish in slowing you down for having too much fun and going too fast
I don't see the appeal in going fast and then slamming into a wall or obstacle I had no way of reacting to in time, then feeling sluggish as fuck when Sonic is slow
>b-b-but that's why you're meant to replay it so you can find the fastest routes
bullshit. how the fuck am I meant to remember the level when it all flies past me? it would help if it was zoomed out x3 at least. Sonic is SHIT

>>714205893 (OP)
Yoshi's Island is pretty fucking great, a rare true 10/10 game. Wario Land 4 is the only other 2D platformer I can say matches it.

>>714208002
Super meat boy is the Sonic formula perfected.

>>714207259
I knew some anon would say this. “Producer” roles in Japanese game creation during the 90’s often had the most say on what went into a game, and created the main aspects of the game design. This is why Sakaguchi is often credited with the success of Chrono Trigger, FFVI and VII etc despite having a “Producer” role.

>>714206212
Imagine if everytime you got hit in darksouls you hear a crowd chant "black lives matter". I would totally laugh as the devs call out the chuds for being pissed as a skill issue

>>714207410
I can't believe you say that and yet post Sonic 1, a game where you're only really going fast in the first fucking zone.

>>714205893 (OP)
miyamoto didnt make this game bro

>>714205893 (OP)
yoshis island is way too slow and easy
slowly hover jump over every gap in a platformer
slowly wait for the egg crosshair to line up with your target so you can throw an egg that bounces and takes out everyone on the screen

its very pretty but its a bad platformer and its a bad run and gun. i've never seen a defence of this game that wasn't just "I played it when I was 7" or "dude look at this speedrun" as if every snes game doesn't have cool speedruns

>>714208002
Sonic only exists because one of the guys who created him got bored of replaying Mario every time he died and wanted to get back to where he was faster, memorization is baked into the formula and if you're incapable of that you got filtered

>Wow this shit is really fun and fantastic
SMW
>Hey this is really great
Yoshi's Island
>This is frustrating as shit but I'm having fun and don't know why
SMB3
>Hard as fuck but somehow incredibly addicting
SMB1
>Great music and the most gimmicky fucking bullshit I've ever seen in my life
DKC

Yes I'm Miyamoto or whatever. DKC genuinely pisses me off. I'm fucking horrible at it and it always feels like the camera's just not zoomed out enough to see what bullshit is coming up. Gimmicky animal levels, awfully tight jumps, collectathon bullshit. DKC's best aspect is its fucking god tier soundtrack but I didn't have that much fun playing it looking back on it.

>>714205893 (OP)
Yes. I love this game

Best 2D Mario, yes. But Shiggy was busy making 64, he just supervised a little.

>>714205893 (OP)
Is the game finally hacked?
can we have romhacks like the super mario world ones?

>>714205893 (OP)
Donkey Kong Country 1/2/3 and Yoshi's Island both suck actually.

>>714209850
The only hard level in SMB1 is 8-3.
Are you thinking of Lost Levels or something?

SMW is the best
yoshis island is fun but the crying baby is annoying and some levels are just shit designed
SMB3 is second to SMW

>>714210210
8-4 is harder
but the only "hard" levels are 8-3, and 8-4

>>714208002
Anon you seriously need to get better at the game.
>I don't see the appeal in going fast and then slamming into a wall or obstacle I had no way of reacting to in time
If you could just glue your thumb to right on the d pad the game would be braindead. No platformer wants you to go at max speed all of the time. This is a standard you only apply to Sonic.
>then feeling sluggish as fuck when Sonic is slow
Sonic isn't that slow.
>how the fuck am I meant to remember the level when it all flies past me
What? Stop being retarded.

>>714209334
You're meant to replay the game and get better so all the zones are faster. Sonic 1 allows you to skip most of the stop and wait sections that do exist in the game. Smb3, SMW, and YI all have multiple autoscrollers and generally more slow sections.

>>714209120
I don't know why one would enter a thread about Yoshi's Island and go on a tangent about /pol/ shit, but you did just that.

>>714210210
Nah that shit was hard, man. I was trying to do warpless and could not get good enough and had to beat the game by using warps. I learned a lot of World 5, 6, and 7, but never enough to do them perfectly.

>>714210574
Sonic 1 is nothing but slow sections. The game reaches its peak on the first level as it actually feels like it was designed with Sonic going fast. I think you saying that you have to replay the zones non stop to go fast was not the dev's intentions with the level design and honestly it's no different than going fast and skipping past stuff in a Mario game.

>>714205893 (OP)
> best platformer Miyamoto ever made.
Why are tendies so braindead that they just associate every fucking Nintendo game with a single corporate spokesman?

>>714211675
Hideo Kojima invented the camera, Miyamoto invented jumping, simple as

>>714211235

Star Light has lots of fast sections too.

>>714205893 (OP)
I've realized I don't really care for 2D Mario aside from the original SMB.

6 Golden Coins was decent too

It's a good game but a bad collect-a-thon , like really how many people actually got 100% on any stage past world 3?

>>714205893 (OP)
who put those eggs there?

>>714205893 (OP)
Lol no. The baby mechanic is shit

>>714211235
>Sonic 1 is nothing but slow sections
This simply isn't true.
>I think you saying that you have to replay the zones non stop to go fast was not the dev's intentions
It was, this is attested to in an interview.
>—Why did you focus on “speed” as your development theme?
>Naka: I think Super Mario Bros. is a wonderful game, but if you play it everyday, you always have to start from stage 1-1, right? Once you get good and memorize the levels, you can just hold down the B button and run through the stage. But even then it just takes too long. With Sonic, I wanted to shorten that time if I could. My idea was that you’d progress slowly and carefully through the stages on your first playthroughs as you learned the enemy locations, but after you got used to it, you could really zoom straight through the levels. Unfortunately, everyone who playtested it just went full-speed from the very beginning. (laughs)

>and honestly it's no different than going fast and skipping past stuff in a Mario game.
Mario games don't have alternate routes or speed shoes to exploit like Sonic does and going faster when learning the levels is deliberately baked into the level design. For instance you have the blocks in marble zone you can skip, bubbles in labyrinth zone can be ignored most of the time to keep moving, and there are plenty of jumps throughout the game you can take to skip over an intermediate platform and land on a further platform.

>>714205893 (OP)
This is the only 2D platform that can dispute the 3rd place ( Donkey Kong Country 2).
Second is DKC Returns and first is Tropical Freeze.

>>714212695
SAMI PAK!!!

>>714205893 (OP)
DKC2 mogs. Yoshi's Island is such a bitch to 100%. Great aesthetics though.

>>714214041
Tropical Freeze I can maybe understand being better than DKC2 even if I disagree, but Returns? I don't get it.

>>714205893 (OP)
It's good, but literally being made for seven year olds keeps it from true greatness. Ironically the extra stages are the hardest platforming stages Nintendo ever built. Just needed more of that and less collectathon shit, which was and always will be bottom tier design.

>>714205893 (OP)
Sonic 3 & Knuckles clears all three anyway.

>>714205893 (OP)
1) Takashi Tezuka made that game. He also made Mario 3.
2) It's not as good as the previous mario's, but it's still fantastic. And IMO the last truly outstanding game Nintendo ever made.

>>714209086
That's wrong.

Producers handle the finance and promotion. They can provide help if the team gets stuck but they're not a hands on role.

>>714209120
Kek, now I want a game like that.

>>714205893 (OP)
No because baby mario exists, pulling it down from perfect to just really really good

>>714218709
Unironically a much better and more effective punishment for getting hit than health or power-ups.

>>714205893 (OP)
>didn't mention SMW because smb3 is the better game
Based.

>>714206217
Blasphemy. I played them back to back, and TF is absolute dogshit compared to DKC 2 & 3.

>>714217790
this image is over a decade old at this point

>>714205893 (OP)
>didn't mention SMW because it's obviously superior to smb3 AND this
heh

>>714224786
Huh

DKC2 is the best platformer on SNES

>>714228116
true

>>714206414
Rayman Origins has shit physics compared to the other three, there definitly better platformers.