Thread 714211496

MOVEMENT!!!!

BEHIND THE CRATE
BEHIND THE BOXES
BEHIND THE PIPE
BEHIND THE MACHINES
BEHIND THE SOFA
BEHIND THE KIOSK
BEHIND THE SHELF
BEHIND THE COUCH
BEHIND THE TABLE
BEHIND THE WALL
BEHIND THE COLUMN
BEHIND THE PILLAR
BEHIND THE VENDING MACHINE
BEHIND THE THE DESK

>>714211496 (OP)
SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH

FLASHLIGHT

SQUAD!
WE GOT FREEMAN!
(oh, wait, wrong game :P)

CONTACT!
*psuut psuut psuut*
AAAAUUUUUHHHHRRRRRRGGGGGGG

I want to replay it for the kino shotgun but I'm afraid I won't be able to sleep for weeks again.

>>714211496 (OP)
Why aren't FPS games this good anymore?

FLASHLIG-hhhhhttttt
*booooooommm* *kkkerrrchunnkkk*
aauuuuuuggggggghhhhhuuuuuuuuu

>>714214997
I replayed it recently and it isn't close to as scary as when we were lads. The game is very good and atmospheric, but in my 30s I'm just too jaded or unemotional.

>>714211496 (OP)
MOVEMENT!!!!

>>714211496 (OP)
WHERE SHOULD I GO?!

>>714218195
S K W A D !
K
W
A
D
!

>>714214997
you play for shotgun kino
I play for early 2000s office kino
we are not the same

god I wish somebody would remaster this like nightdive.

put it on the kex engine

>>714218195
MY
ASS
IS
HEAVY

>>714218103
idk i started it up the other day and its spooking the fuck out of me

>>714218491
Ah yes the remaster that will somehow look worse than the original but hey at least it'll have 4K textures right.

>>714218840
the few remasters I've played have been objectively better in every way and most importantly they just work.

>>714218412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plJReAxnmZI

HE'S BEHIND THE ASS

>only 3 weapons at a time max
>always have the shotgun equipped on 2
>never have ammo issues

>>714219241
good intro joke, horrible voice to listen to click out of that shit

>>714218729
It kind of ruins the tension when you realize this, but besides the stealth niggers, all the scary stuff is basically completely removed from the shooting stuff. So you're never in any danger when Alma is mucking about. I mean it's still scary tho

>>714214997
>>714218103
they nailed the mid 2000's urban blight setting, it's one of my favorite things about it

I need to man up and replay it, i ran into a bug that softlocked me like two years ago

>>714218195
SQUAD
WEAPONS
CHECK
OKAY

>>714216878
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=laWw8TAjtQo
Replicas got some great death howls not gonna lie

>>714218195
GOT A SCIENTIST HERE
HAS A LOT OF PICTURES OF GIRLS WITH DICKS

man I was so disappointed to find out this game is over hyped and overrated to hell

*blocks your path*

>fun melee options 95% of players never bother using
>clicky and clacky guns
>plumes of smoke and chunks of debris everywhere the second bullets start flying
>bad guys who ragdoll like crazy and scream bloody murder as they die
>slo-mo meter

That's all it takes to make a fantastic FPS campaign. It's really that simple.

>>714220348
>tried hiding behind a cactus plant

>>714220202
Retarded zoomie zoomer

>all telepathically controlled by one mastermind
>still have to communicate verablly
i guess point man's brother doesn't have the psychic bandwidth for silent communication?

MODERN ART AND FEAR BOOKS

>>714220497
nostalgia goggles man.. take em off
the games okay ... but it's not the second coming

>>714220972
nah it was by far the most fun FPS of its time when it comes to sheer gunplay and fun. the AI was a lot of fun to fight against despite it not being as advanced as the game made it seem.

>>714218195
>YOU'RE DEAD FREEMAN!

>>714220972
>the game isn't fun... BECAUSE IT JUST ISN'T, OKAY?!
yeah nah you're a fag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlgsmZHVXt4

>>714220972
dis guy can't handle not having regenerating health

>>714211807
BEHIND BLUE EYES

>>714221075
Fun FPS is not even half of the game, it's a walking sim with a combat encounter here and there

>>714222756
>it's a walking sim
lol
work on your b8, it's shit

>>714222817
Yes it is, actual shootouts are few and far between, you spend most of the time just traveling between them. And it would be fine if not for the repetitiveness of environments and the fact that it tries and fails to be scary, because there is no actual threat posed, with only a few exceptions.

>>714220202
>>714223056
you just couldnt get into the proper mood i think. i wasnt feeling it the first time i played it so i quit less than halfway into the office level
im glad i saved the game for later. i had a lot more fun with it the second time around

>>714218412
>>714223056
The repetitiveness is a slippery slope, but it’s also a defining trait inspired by the genre itself. As an example Alien and Half-Life draw from older stories set in labs or confined scientific facilities, using a single location to build tension and atmosphere. Alien takes place mostly on one ship, while Half-Life primarily within Black Mesa facility, reflecting this tradition.

Also, I’m a fan of Quake 1—its castle and medieval-Lovecraftian setting feels really comfy and adds a unique twist to that confined, immersive vibe.

>>714223380
Literally my experience lol.

Were you supposed to hesitate before shooting Paxton? I left clicked the moment I saw a gun in my hand

>>714222756
>>714223056
But every FPS is like that. It’s not like other games don’t have walking sections—it’s simply impossible to have a firefight at every single centimetre or inch of forward movement.

>>714223640
me too.
I do feel bad for my mom, Alma. But there was a better way to avenge her.

>>714220972
It’s not just nostalgia. F.E.A.R. has better gunplay than any Call of Duty or Ubisoft game because the main character’s shooting feels heavier, and the ragdoll physics add to the overall impact. Battlefield is the only series that comes close, since it also has a heavier feel compared to Call of Duty.

>>714220151
Fuck! I can't find it. Please tell me I'm just failing at youtube, and it didn't get deleted.

>>714220348
I wonder if this guy was inspired by someone the devs despised

>>714221075
>strawman
>>714221363
>strawman
>>714221701
>strawman
I never said it wasn't fun, just that it's like a 6/10 at best
it's propped up by some memorable levels and set pieces (like the ones in that video that likes to get posted a lot) but in between its a lot of filler shlock

>>714223965
How did you avenge her?

>>714220348
>>714220446

>>714218195
>>714218570
BOGEYS!
MY!
SECTOR!

>>714224305
https://youtu.be/1zl1L0oWVoU

>>714224746
She held her faggot father herself, so I didn't had the chance

>>714224490
holy boomer ja2 reference

>>714220348
>>714220446
>>714224814
How did he survive being shot? He appears in Extraction Point

>>714224814
HES TOO FAT

>>714225105
S H I T

>>714211496 (OP)
>HANDS OFF MY BREAD

>>714224490
I always thought he was supposed to be like a Nedry reference or something.

If you guys havent played Trepang2 Id recommend it. Closest thing out there to janky FEAR at home. Even got the horrific death screams down.

Its not scary at all though unfortunately.

>>714224549
name a pc fps that does fun hectic cqb vs ai better

>>714211496 (OP)
HE'S TOO FAST

>>714225339
>Its not scary at all though unfortunately
neither was FEAR, honestly

>>714223525
half life has th decency to change the scenery at a reasonable pace and has more unique scenes and story beats
I swear half of fear is just "your right behind Paxton oh dang he got away" and "spooky bloody hallway'

>>714225060
Don't worry, EP is not canon

>>714225339
>dragon's breath shotgun
>point in the general direction and shoot to delete everyone in the vicinity

>>714223525
once you start realizing pointless corridors in games you can't unsee them
fear has it bad, like room > L corridor (no side rooms) > room, but really who cares

>>714225060
Extraction Point is non-canon to the original plot. After getting shot by Harlan, he is left to die in the facility explosion.

>>714224814
>grenade detonates
>lights flicker, painting moves
this was literally mind blowing. in every other game ive played explosions only make the ground black
the devil is in the details. even the dust and debris effects created by gunshots feels so satisfying

can you anons recall shooter that does this?

>>714225339
I only wish Trepang elaborated more on its world. Personal preference also makes me wish I could disable the sliding, but that's just a personal dislike instead of serious criticism.

>>714225929
leaving the sliding in like that is a surefire sign the dev is a retard that flunked his way into something half decent

>>714225804
I've only seen dust affect gunfights in six days in fallujah
zogbot in iraq cqb simulator

>>714225060
some old woman got shot 4 times and lived because she didn't lose enough blood, probably having constricted arteries and thick blood reduced bleeding. maybe being superhumanly fat does something similar

>>714211807
RIGHT BEHIND THE RAIN (Can you feel the wonder?)
RIGHT BEHIND THE RAIN (Just beyond the thunder?)

>>714220972
t.absolute irredeemable fucking retard

>>714220202
You haven't played it.

>>714225962
Mod?

How many of you have seen VK12 chop off replica's head?

>>714224876
Thank you, my love.

play sum fukin trepang

>>714229959
why are you so angry?
>>714230359
I have, bought it on sale a handful of months ago

Look out!

FLASHLIGHT

>>714220348
Shut up fat man

>>714223640
Hell no, that dude was a murderer.

Interesting how Monolith released opposite horror games in the same year
>FEAR
Fast-paced shooter and sci-fi horror in sleek office and industrial environments
>Condemned
Slow, grounded melee brawler in a neo-noir, grindhouse-esque setting with occult elements

>>714230845
MMod.

perseus mandate is overhated, the cloning facility is kino

>>714211496 (OP)
OH SHIT

>>714220972
>It's
>IT'S
>NOSTALGIA
uh-huh still a great game to play I'm sorry you're a retard that can't enjoy old games.

>>714238468
NOOOOO DON'T SUCK MY DICK!

>>714239971
Perseus Mandate was the scariest one. Only valid criticism is the downgraded graphics.

>>714225339
I tried trepang2 but it seemed pretty half assed to me. Had none of the depth of FEAR.
Synergy was sick though.

>>714243017
Play Vladik Brutal. Shooting feels heavier and more impactful.

>>714218412
What are some other early 2000s office-core games? Splinter Cell comes to mind

>>714243069
Looks cool. Thanks.

>>714225134
not yet

>>714238468
I'm literally crying ToT

Fear 1/2 and doom 3 scared the shit out of me when I was younger. Never finished them for years until I forced myself to get through dead space.

>>714243210
half life opposing force
deus ex
max payne
hitman contracts (I dont really remember)


picrel battlefield 3 ziba tower map which was a mirror's edge asset initially (not early 2000's at all but still)

>>714211496 (OP)
FLASHLIGHT!

>>714214997
trepang2
its a spiritual successor with shotgun kino

Kinda wish we had something to show what else F.E.A.R. deals with, there has to be a ton of scary shit in that world if the US bothers to make a dedicated unit to kill spooky shit.

>>714238468
While others were too scared to continue playing I actively seeked out the horror sections of this game.

>>714211496 (OP)
MY ASS IS HEAVY

This game did a good job of making enemies hype you up. Too many games feature super human protagonists and everyone acts like you're just a normal dude.

>>714220202
honestly yeah
STALKER and NecroVision have far better shooting and overall gameplay than this ADHD fps
not to mention the AI is actually braindead yet is praised to high heavens by people who never played FPS before, Halo's and STALKER's AI are still unsurpassed.

>>714260796
>NecroVision
>Halo
Console slop

>>714261810
>NecroVision
>console
retarded fag

>The AI is so advanced, good and cool, never seen anything quite like it in a FPS!
>Devs: Actually it's just really heavily scripted in an ideal environment where it can show off all its parts without fucking up too much
THEN WHY HAVEN'T ANYONE ELSE DONE IT?

>>714211496 (OP)
>OH SHIT

>>714218195
GO RECON!!!

>>714225490
>half life has th decency to change the scenery at a reasonable pace and has more unique scenes and story beats

no it doesn't, wtf?

>>714224549
you don't even know what a strawman is

>>714263637
because the nonscripted AI tricks require the player to exclusively fight in a series of square rooms and there's only so much you can do with that visually and thematically
more devs should absolutely have ripped them off but it's understandable, the repetitive environments are easily the worst aged part of the game and weren't well received on release
the real question is why the other big AI trick they used (shitloads of callout lines) still isn't especially common, at least at the time there was the excuse that FEAR only got away with it by having you fight a clone army for 95% of the game to keep filesizes and VA costs down

I played FEAR 1 over a period of a few months and then plowed through FEAR 2 in like a week and burnt myself out so I haven't played 3 yet.

How does it hold up?

>>714264494
Bad. It might be the most "late-7th-gen-FPS" game of all time, and not even in a funny way.

>>714218195
Hey Alyx, it's us!
Hehe, friendgame effective.

>>714243210
Yuppie Psycho

>>714263637
Literally everyone does it
Bahman games are AAAslop and mog the shit out of FEAR with how cool AI of enemies acts.

>>714265780
That's a name I haven't heard in awhile
Hope the dev makes another horror kino game

>>714265684
This was a nice touch but never convincing because the AI says the lines even when firing at you. It would've been more amusing if they say that and Alyx has reaction voicelines to them.

>>714266113
Name 3 FPS games that comes close if "literally everyone" does it. FEAR AI was fun because of how well it was integrated with the fast paced first person shooter action. Bamham AI reactionary stuff disappears once melee combat begins.

I will concede that I had totally forgotten how long and bad the intro part of FEAR is. Way too much walking while listening to boring radio chatter. If I had one complaint about FEAR it's that it takes too long to get into the good stuff.

I probably didn't mind when I was 14 because my eyes were blown out of my head from witnessing the cutting edge graphics and dynamic shadows. I would hit every ceiling lamp and just watch the shadows.

>>714264494
fear3 felt like a parody of CoD-clones

>>714267562
Trying to flank player or throw a grenade while shouting "I'm throwing a grenade!" is being done in CoDslop since forever

>>714267562
STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl
STALKER Clear Sky
STALKER Call of Pripyat
Halo CE
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo Reach
wew that was easy

>>714267562
HL2 does it, the combat just fucking sucks.

>>714264494
You'll miss nothing by not playing it

>>714268035
STALKER and FEAR are opposite sides of the "Good AI" spectrum.

STALKER's AI, while very advanced and technically impressive, is not presented in a very polished way.

FEAR's AI is very impressive in presentation, but functionally very basic, and relies heavily on scripted events.

I think both work very well in their respective games, but since that's not an argumentative opinion, I doubt anyone will even pay attention to this post.

>>714214997
Don't forget to install the DSOAL dll to restore based EAX and also to enable HTRF for stereo headphones.

>>714267898
Do they react to your flashlight being on or off?
Do they lament being the last guy around?
Do they yell "take cover" when you lob a nade at em?
Do they jump over tables or other obstacles?
Do they have a safe and cautionary state?
Do they whack you in melee?
Do they lay down covering fire?
Do they hide in dark corners to get the drop on you?
Remember, it's the totality which makes it click, not just ticking up to 70% of these boxes.
Here's a laydown: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/why-fears-ai-is-still-the-best-in-first-person-shooters
Are people merely thinking the enemies yelling their actions and flanking you is what made FEAR enemies feel like satisfying enemies?

>>714268035
Ok.

>>714211496 (OP)
my tiny brain can't process this game is 20 years old

>>714268419
The reality is "good AI" is not a reference to how complex it is, it's a reference to how much it enhances the experience of the player.

>>714267898
Yes individual things like that often happen in most games. FEAR just has more of it. Flanking happens regularly. If you hide in a corner you can expect a grenade. A bunch of little things start to add up to a good experience.
FEAR AI isn't mindblowing. It's just nice. And most AI is not nice.

>>714268549
Last one I played was MW2 all those years ago, but yeah, I recall those

>>714268419
hm actually decent post on this shithole

>>714267551
She has one scripted reaction where she asks Russell about them saying her name. Would be funny if there were random responses from Alyx too, but it's funny enough that they even added those voice lines to the soldiers. Quite interesting and unsettling too since their humor is a strange contrast to the grotesque bodily modifications and brain reprogramming.

>>714268658
For sure. Few would consider Super Mario a better game if the enemies juked you while attempting to jump on them or started having other complex behaviours. You're jumping on hundreds if not thousands of enemies over many hours, they shouldn't have methods to fuck up the flow once you've memorized a map with its spawns and such.

>fear 1 MC
>gigathad who kicks his loli mother ass

>fear 2 MC
>gets raped by said loli
>butbutbut she was adult!
Cope

Reminder that this is the REAL trilogy

>>714214997
I'm a pussy and it wasn't that scary. I can't play amnesia, alien isolation, etc. but I don't consider games like FEAR, Dead Space and Resident Evil actual horror. Probably because they give you enough tools to kill everything, instead of forcing you to sneak and endure jump scares

>>714271438
Honestly this could've been a great franchise but I think they went way too hard into the Armacham and muh Harlan Wade is le big bad shit. I mean they could've done 5+ games with different FEAR operatives operating all over the world vs supernatural shit. I liked Alma but she should've been contained to one game imo. And the enemy "AI" was superb for its time so it really could've been something.

>>714249014
I was about to mention bf3.

>>714225572
>>714225738
which is a shame cuz Extraction Point was a lot cooler than whatever FEAR 2 and 3 was....

>kill every member but one in the squad
>OFFICER NEEDS ASSISTANCE I AM 11-99

>>714211496 (OP)
This game was boring.

>>714264381
>shitloads of callout lines
i almost thought FEAR had stealth mechanics because enemies notice your flashlight and talk about searching for you
>muh environments
the worst part of the game is that in every encounter enemies will pretend not to notice you for 2 seconds so you can enter slo-mo. its still fun but the predictable pattern gets really repetitive later on

>>714219089
name them

>>714214997
Here just watch this and black haired pale skinned ghost ladies will stop being scary to you

https://mega.nz/file/FyAwDZ6R#qQSF8T9hh3bnx6KmoO8EXmCE5_pJP9iRWhcAnuXnpBs

FLESHLIGHT!

>>714219089
Zoomer faggot

>>714264494
Kinda fun as a co-op shooter campaign with a friend because each player gets a different moveset, but not to play for what you played F.E.A.R. for

>>714272910
Speaking of Armacham and Harlan, it's weird that the third game completely ignored Aristide and treated Harlan as the overarching villain of the series.

>>714277643
Third game is made by a different company altogether. Plot is complete nonsense (Game starts in brazil just so they can rip off MW2, Paxton Fettel being a ghost despite being revived at the end of reborn, Armacham has enough manpower to control and lockdown an entire city but couldn't contain a single office building in the first game).
3 feels almost completely disconnected from the rest of the games in sense of plot and tone. 2 was also pushing it some regards but it at least felt connected to the first game.

>>714225339
It looks like Garrys mod with addons lol

>>714277643
The third game is just a retarded cash-in on the IP name. Happens a lot, like Dead Space 3

>>714280290
Lost Planet 3 as well

>>714272910
they'd have to sacrifice a lot from the first game to make it into a franchise. im not sure it would still be a satisfying experience on its own by the end
FEAR is an excellent game on its own, but i dont think it really needed more sequels or spin-offs. its no half life

>>714211496 (OP)
you're so OP in FEAR I honestly felt bad for these guys

>>714211496 (OP)
>H-he's TOO FAST...!

I just finished extraction point and liked it. How is perseus mandate? Is it more or less the same length?

>>714282303
slightly shorter

>>714282303
a little shorter, with a noticeable downgrade in asset quality and overall graphics, but it's still FEAR and the story for it is neat.

>>714281570
>the first level of the game is easy
more news at 11

>>714228976
Woah, didn't know Joe Rogan made music...