>OBJECTION!

>>714225217 (OP)
Where is AA7 bros...?

>2d ace attorney
>dd and soj are retconned
>phoenix wright dies
>apollo justice is the accused
>you play as a prosecutor
your reaction?

>>714225579
Sounds cool. I’d play.

>>714225579
>Apollo
>dd and soj are retconned
...Will he get yet another backstory?

>>714225217 (OP)
kekypoopy

>>714225217 (OP)
>mayoi is on phoenix's left instead of his right
the most annoying part of the 3ds games

Thoughts on this? Could this lead to a Phoenix Wright 64?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOdY_7dKNSU

>>714228705
>AI slop

>>714228851
Fuck off obsessed poorfag artist faggot I was mostly talking about the game.

What went horribly wrong?

>>714228931
You’re not worth my time, go back to your general

>>714229023
The series should have ended back on the days of TnT

>>714229023
Being the second half of a series that people largely only care about the first half of.

>>714229023
I'm glad it exists since after all this time I've still yet to play anything past the first trilogy so I'll buy it eventually

I want to sniff Maya's feet so fucking bad

>>714225217 (OP)
I can't believe it, Edgeworth is fucking dead

>>714233409
He's not actually dead though, just sleep.

>>714233795
You're going to prison Phoenix, and on the inside YOU'LL be the Maya. You better enjoy those hamburgers while you can

>>714233895
Hold on there's a contradiction in what you just said.

>>714230363
They honestly aren't bad if you just want mysteries to solve but each one has a core problem. 4 has Apollo take a back seat in his own game, 5 has a bad mastermind and 6 has an over the top setting and a boring prosecutor and also retcons shit. the only one I would suggest reconsidering playing is the Professor Layton crossover.

>>714234079
WHAT? How could there be a contradiction? I was told what to say by Miles Edgeworth!

...

>>714234538
You said and I quote
>You better enjoy those hamburgers while you can
But the only meat Phoenix Wright eats is Fey pussy.

I'm genuinely convinced that whoever made this game never played the original trilogy

I've wanted to fuck Maya for decades at this point

I've developed a NTR fetish after being a massive Nick x Maya fan for decades at this point.

>>714225217 (OP)
Franziska>Iris>Maya>Mia

>>714225579
>>dd and soj are retconned
Both games are better than JFA, GAA, and AJ albeit (and maybe PW)

>>714234827
By that point, none of the people involved in making the original trilogy were making Ace Attorney anymore.

>>714235447
Dual Destinies is the worst game in the series.

>>714235641
Mayor Tenma being the wrestler was KINO

>>714225217 (OP)
this is like that slap fight web, lol

>>714235641
Can't be, it has 5-DLC.

>>714235641
Nothing is worse than Apollo Justice. Not even Investigations 1.

>>714235943
5-DLC is quite good. Unfortunately, the rest of the game is shit

>>714236010
Apollo Justice is the best game after the first one.

>>714236092
I think you should be stoned personally.

>>714236092
AJ doesn't have a single good case. 4-2 and 4-3 are bottom of the barrel garbage, 4-4 is a travesty, and 4-1 is ok. Even the gimmick sucks. The only redeemable part of the game is Trucy is a fun partner for investigating.

>>714236243
bro must already BE stoned if he's making posts like that

>>714234206
I'd argue the prosecutor is honestly fun to beat the shit out of and would be kino if he was just an unlikeable cunt, sadly that is not the case,the other statements are agreeable with that said.
>>714236010
the real worse game is GAA1 solely as an individual entry and not judging it as part of an very amazing duology, but i don't think anyone is ready to have that talk yet.

>>714236362
>4-2 and 4-3 are bottom of the barrel garbage
They’re both solid middle cases
> 4-4 is a travesty
It’s one of the best in the series. Of course, someone who thinks that Dual Destinies has a good story would naturally be filtered

>>714236592
That's pretty fair. I think GAA even including 2 actually kinda sucks.

Layton VS Wright is the only good 3D AA game, but few understand this.

>>714236605
>the Phoenix trial
>stupid painting investigation that amounts to nothing
>arresting a guy who's already in jail
>magic jury system dictates Vera's life
>Apollo literally doing nothing
>the fucking Mason system
C'mon now.

>>714236605
Not that Anon but nowhere in his post did he say that DD had a good story, he just said (wrongfully) that AJ is the worst game, when it's GAA1 by itself.
on the subject of DD's story, I think it's almost good, but it's awful mastermind tanks the entire narrative, it's quite a shame, 4-2 is alright, 4-3 is bottom 5 but i'd never consider it the worst case on any day, and 4-4 is around on par with AAI2, as in it has a lot of super good ideas and moments but it's all undone by the main bad guy barely putting up a fight before going under.
>>714236682
I'll disagree on that solely because GAA2 has overall great cases even if the final villain is just kinda okay "we got Gant at home", but I can understand why someone wouldn't like it.

I feel like people aren't critical enough about the series as a whole and aren't willing to bad mouth even aspects of entries they like, i can do with every game in the series, so others should be able too as well.

>>714236845
>the Phoenix trial
...was totally fine.
>stupid painting investigation that amounts to nothing
I'm not sure what you mean. The investigation in the studio is necessary because it's where the murder took place.
>arresting a guy who's already in jail
Why is this bad?
>magic jury system dictates Vera's life
Actually, the player themselves gets to decide.
>the fucking Mason system
The Mason system is one the coolest things to every appear in an Ace Attorney game; it is easily the best investigation segment of the series. If you didn't get it then you are a brainlet

>>714237081
>...was totally fine.
>I'm not sure what you mean.
>Why is this bad?
>Actually, the player themselves gets to decide.
You are an obtuse knuckledragger.
You have no right to call other people brainlets. The Mason system was perfectly understandable btw, just dogshit.

>>714225579
Yeah im thinking based setup here
>the killer is manfred von karma

>>714237259
You're the one who can't articulate a single point. There's only one brainlet in this conversation, and it isn't me.

>>714235316
But what does the reddit frog have to do with that?

why does he have a hedgehog on his head

>>714237081
Not him again but I'd argue the player deciding if they win or lose the trial is kinda weak because there is absolutely zero reason to vote guilty, nevermind the concept of the jury being hilariously stacked against Kristoph really does showcase how he stands no chance as a final boss which is funny as fuck and what a loser like him deserves, but it's an anti climax.
The Mason system itself is also fine mechanically speaking, but the game never really explains why Phoenix, a disbarred attorney, gets to make a new legal system addition, while he still hasn't cleared his name yet, i know DD is gay and lame and tries to hand-wave this explanation but it's really silly how it's never really addressed, it's pretty cool, but it's super silly.

>play in japanese
>cant keep up with /v/ threads due to the fanlation name changes
feels bad man

>>714237361
>Me: This is bad because *lists several points*
>You: Nuh uh they're good actually, you're stupid.
I'm not the one providing no evidence for an argument. Especially when you're that obtuse that you can't see the glaring issues. You didn't even address the part about Apollo doing nothing, not even a half-assed "that's good actually" like you did for everything else.
Anyway
>painting bait to pad out the investigation that was literally just "he kinda liked Apollo lol"
>lowest stakes in the series without the contrived Vera poisoning
>character assassination of literally every PW character except Ema I guess
>Mason system is gamey in a bad way and is a really silly reason to exist, also not very enjoyable to actually play
>Recontextualizes 4-1 to be fucking insane on Trucy's dad's part
>Drops the dumbest character connection in the series at the very end
But you're retarded so you'll just say "these are good actually".

>>714236942
>I'll disagree on that solely because GAA2 has overall great cases
I replayed GAA2 and I remember really liking G2-3 when I first played it but the GAA games in general drag on for sooooooo fucking long and I couldn't finish it because I got distracted by other games, including other Ace Attorney games I was replaying. I remember thinking G2-3 was the BEST in GAA2 and thinking the last two were both really underwhelming, although killing off Gregson was kino and a highlight, the climax really just ended up feeling halfbaked in the end. G2-2 was funny though, even if it had that annoying guy.
As for criticism personally I criticize every game too, I have a grievance with every game. The one I do the least is probably AAI2.

>>714225980
One day I’ll learn how to do aI voices and do this whole thing.

>>714237798
>>Recontextualizes 4-1 to be fucking insane on Trucy's dad's part
Still the most unintentionally funny thing in the series.

>>714237798
>I'm not the one providing no evidence for an argument.
Yes you are. You're just saying "thing is bad because it's bad" with no elaboration.
>painting bait to pad out the investigation that was literally just "he kinda liked Apollo lol"
That's not what happened you retard. If you were paying attention, you would have known that Misham was painting those cases because he had a special interest in Wright & Co Law offices following Phoenix's last trial and made a point to keep on eye on the business. Misham literally tells this to Phoenix, yet you didn't know this, thus proving me correct that you're a brainlet.
>lowest stakes in the series without the contrived Vera poisoning
By reasonable. The lowest stakes would be any of the cases in Investigations.
>character assassination of literally every PW character except Ema I guess
Oh yeah? How were Maya and Edgeworth assassinated? They weren't because they aren't in Apollo Justice. In fact, the only recurring major characters from the previous games are Phoenix, Ema, and Gumshoe (who only has a cameo).
>Recontextualizes 4-1 to be fucking insane on Trucy's dad's part
Wow, this guy who is clearly established to be an aashole is acting like an asshole? Who would have thought...
>Drops the dumbest character connection in the series at the very end
I would say Apollo being Dhurke's son is way dumber because of how much it retroactively makes his family history make less sense.

>>714238193
I still think GAA2-3 is a really good case and is still the highlight of that game as a whole but yeah I put it down a bit on a replay since Kazuma brings down the case a small amount at the end, you also have the "dude survived a 30 foot drop somehow" which is possible, but isn't likely, but they kinda speed past arguing that it's possible.
>>714238608
>>714238616
I think the best part of Trucy's dad being an selfish asshole is that 4-4 still tries its hardest to insist that he does care about his daughter, which can be true at the same time, but I feel like the writing was intending on making him as a flawed but sympathetic character, seeing how he's still a better man than Valiant who's a total beta male, but nobody in the fanbase ends up thinking of Zak as anything but a crazy asswipe.
I think they were a tad too ambitious with his character concept.

>>714238616
>If you were paying attention, you would have known that Misham was painting those cases because he had a special interest in Wright & Co Law offices following Phoenix's last trial and made a point to keep on eye on the business.
Same fucking thing, whatever. They made a big deal out of it like it was some conspiracy but it ended up being absolutely nothing because Apollo is irrelevent.
>By reasonable. The lowest stakes would be any of the cases in Investigations.
At least pretend to have played those games ESLbro.
>Oh yeah? How were Maya and Edgeworth assassinated?
You're baiting me. You can't be that fucking obtuse. Let me clarify; the PW trilogy characters who appear in 4-4. Didn't think that would be necessary but ok.
>Wow, this guy who is clearly established to be an aashole is acting like an asshole
It's not just that he's an insane asshole, it's that it's fucking retarded writing. The man who threw his life away for 7 years for his daughter is actively trying to ruin one of his daughter's main sources of income over poker. It's as ridiculous as Kristoph malding over this guy, again because he doesn't like unlucky lawyers or lawyers who are bad at poker.

>>714229369
But The Great Ace Attorneys are arguably the best ones yet.
Well I think so anyway. They're just the most fun.

>>714239179
I also think that, Susato is so much better companion that literally anyone is not even fun, even so I still hold my position.

>>714239463
Susato is below Maya but she's the best attempt at an assistant since.
I say Kay is a solid third but past her your getting into interchangeable levels, I'm not a big fan of the role but i understand why it has to exist in the games.

>>714234206
They're fine games, but I still prefer GAA and AAI (which people apparently dislike but I used to think was superior to the original trilogy).

>>714238946
>Kazuma brings down the case a small amount at the end,
Funnly enough I didn't mind this too much. It was a high note to reveal the obvious on and it seemed like maybe something interesting would happen when he cut the statue in half.
>you also have the "dude survived a 30 foot drop somehow"
I don't really mind the logic in cases too much unless it hinges on something REALLY stupid. The worst part for me were the terrible first part of the trial where your witness can't decide if he wants to be arrested or not and you have fucking balloon man and German boy. Case definitely gets better from there but it is a slow case.

>>714234827
Spirit of Justice was ok, Dual Destinies I didn't like that much.

>>714239147
>Same fucking thing, whatever.
It's literally not. But whatever helps you cope I guess.
>At least pretend to have played those games
I have. Investigations 1 has the least stakes out of any game because in all the cases (except the finale) Edgeworth can just arrest anyone suspicious but doesn't because of totally arbitrary reasons.
>the PW trilogy characters who appear in 4-4
All three of them? Gumshoe acts the same as he always does. Ema is different from the first game, but you already said she isn't a problem. So that leaves Phoenix. Really, he doesn't seem that much different from his trilogy self, except that he's a bit more confident.
>The man who threw his life away for 7 years for his daughter is actively trying to ruin one of his daughter's main sources of income over poker
Ruining Phoenix's career is irrelevant to him, because he already secured the transferal of rights to Trucy, which gives way more financial security than Phoenix's poker money ever would. Once again, you retards prove that you weren't even paying attention to the story.

>>714239463
I never liked Susato personally. She just felt boring to me and her jokes were grating.

>>714239463
For me it's the legal mechanics and shit like that I was more interested in. I thought the games were a curious and absurd thing and were fun in that regard.
As for the actual crime drama... yeah I can see the problem, but that wasn't what interested me the most. I just liked seeing the characters interact with this absurd legal system. I thought it was very self aware in that regard. It clearly took the piss of the system it was using and I personally consider the common law system a joke so that just made it funnier to me.

>>714239667
>Investigations 1 has the least stakes out of any game because in all the cases (except the finale) Edgeworth can just arrest anyone suspicious but doesn't because of totally arbitrary reasons.
Except for the finale of AJ because the guy who did it is already arrested for murder.
>All three of them?
There's 4 of them.
>Gumshoe acts the same as he always does.
He's weirdly hostile for no reason. Last time we ever see him btw.
>Phoenix
I'm not going to get into the presenting the page thing as contrived and retarded as it was but presenting the page was retarded.
>Judge
"Will the court hear if I have anything to say?"
"No, probably not."
>Once again, you retards prove that you weren't even paying attention to the story.
Unless, you know, he would commit assault and have to have the cops called on him. If it wasn't for Kristoph killing him he would have thrown away 7 years for nothing.

>>714233205

>>714239629
Honestly every case in GAA1/2 is pretty slow, there's a lot of repetitive dialogue and drawn out animations that bloat up run time, these two games i recall have the longest script in the series for a reason.
I still don't think it's a big deal overall, it's just when it's slow, you really notice it and sometimes the pay off is...uh...well you know.
I still think it's a solid duology mind you, better than 4/5/6 as a trilogy, but i can't argue when someone drops it for being slow and wordy, because it is, and i'm fine with that.

>>714239667
not that anon again but let me nitpick that third point, Gumshoe is pretty friendly by the time of game 3 and doesn't treat the legal system like a game he has to win, so seeing him being hostile towards phoenix and hoping that he'll convict the bad guy this time is backwards, but it's not a giant deal since he barely exists in the game.
As for Phoenix in 4-4, it's mostly a combination of "he has no ground to accuse newbies of being bad compared to vets" on top of just blindly accepting evidence he can't confirm is valid, when he goes out of his way to make sure he can't submit illegal evidence in 1-5.
>>714239903
Pretty much yeah, that's why a game's enjoyment is about as strong as it's cast for me, and this is double for case by case basis.
AAI1-3 is in my opinion for example, the weakest case in the series because it's one off characters are bland, and it has a pretty bad introduction to Kay and Lang.

>>714233205
How about sniffing both Maya's and Pearl's feet?

>>714241892
Loli feet have a different scent compared to grown women feet, have both scents clash and mix would make me go braindead from pleasure

>stuck
>go to every location to either talk to the person there or click on random spots

this is the majority of the gameplay for me when playing ace attorney