>Earlier today, Krafton issued a press release announcing that Subnautica creators and Unknown Worlds co-founders Ted Gill, Charlie Cleveland, and Max McGuire have all been removed from the studio "effectively immediately". In their place, Striking Distance Studios CEO Steve Papoutsis (who has a major role in the development of The Callisto Protocol) has been appointed as Unknown Worlds CEO.

It's over Callishitso space 2 bros won.

>>714246849 (OP)
Well I don't know anything about Striking Distance, but Charlie Cleveland is a huge SJW faggot that almost ruined the first game, and did ruin Below Zero.

Subnautica 1 was a fluke.

>Sell company to overlords
>No longer big boss
>Get fired
Should have kept subnautica 1 randomized biomes and terraformable

>>714246849 (OP)
GET KEKED FUCKOS
now you know how your sound designer felt when you fired them

>>714247192
Not exactly a fluke, but it was good in spite of the leadership, not because of it.
As soon as they fired Simon for making attack helicopter jokes on twitter the company went to complete shit.

>>714246849 (OP)
>>Earlier today, Krafton issued a press release announcing that Subnautica creators and Unknown Worlds co-founders Ted Gill, Charlie Cleveland, and Max McGuire have all been removed from the studio "effectively immediately". In their place, Striking Distance Studios CEO Steve Papoutsis (who has a major role in the development of The Callisto Protocol) has been appointed as Unknown Worlds CEO.
I literally don't understand a single word but I liked Subnautica so I hope 2 will also be good

>>714246849 (OP)
Do you think they got fired because they wanted to make another Below Zero?

playing through the first game right now and its honestly incredible how not many other games actually do deep sea shit as the premise
trying to explore without a sub when night falls and the ocean floor turns into an abyss is scary as fuck

Hahah karma.

For those who don't know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMcKhVbYJYU

>resetera-tier damage control
i thought his board was better than this?

>muh sound designer
actually stfu
this is one of the games I genuinely like and retards here trying to turn ANOTHER game into "muh culture war" bullshit
burn these faggots on a stick

Does this mean the two main characters for Subnautica 2 won't be broccoli head niggers?

>>714248272
The CEO/Lead Dev is the one that injected politics into the game.

>>714246849 (OP)
Not sure if this is a good sign or not. It's clear that the leadership for Subnautica didn't know what made the first game so liked, but will new leadership be able to make a good Subnautica sequel? Won't keep my hopes up.

If they don't scrap the black woman MC then I'll know for sure they didn't learn anything.

>>714247195
They couldn't, they should have hired better programmer first. Unity is such a shit engine, the dev had to remove feature to make the game run.

>>714246849 (OP)
Shitskin mutt MC is a sign of a flop whoever keeps making these characters gets what they fucking deserve.

What if we get cool underwater guns now?

>>714247693
>Everything is visible on the surface
Only looks at quest markers
>Everything is pitch black deep underwater
Can only see quest makers

>>714248596
Hopefully not.

>>714248596
You'll get a rushed incomplete live service game filled with AI assets.

>>714248578
They are just making characters that look like the majority of young Americans look like today.

>know that game we made
yea?
>the one with great underwater exploration and atmosphere
Yea?
>yea we're making a follow-up
YEA?!?
>the gimmick is it's on land with zero atmosphere
...oh
>and a voiced NPC with retarded storyline
...

Gooks liquefying woketards.
>we only work 4 hours a day sorry boss we just can't do that!

>>714248596
you are genuinely dumb if you believe adding guns would improve the game

>>714246849 (OP)
I don't fucking care about Subnautica, who the fuck is gonna make Natural Selection 3?

>>714246849 (OP)
Instead of just getting a game with disappointed sound design, now we get a disappointing game.

>>714248712
You're right, but only white people make mystery meat characters. The minority's power fantasy is to be white, that's why South America love anime so much.

>>714248778
I thought people liked Subnautica?

>>714248596
Making up some pseudo political in-universe lore about mass shootings as a reason to exclude guns was retarded, but excluding guns for gameplay reasons was a great idea. It keeps the player on the back foot and makes the creatures more terrifying.

>>714248858
Being able to kill leviathans was the worst design choice first game had.

>>714248860
Iirc it was a mining colony revolt against the mega corporation you work for so it actually makes sense they would disable gun production.

>>714248929
It feels pretty earned once youre far enough in to prawn up and lasso those fuckers with the grappling hook and bore their brains out with a mining drill. I agree they needed to incentivize not killing them though. Like maybe tie a couple critical resources to them like the stalker teeth in order to discourage you cleaning them out.

>>714249061
>prawn suit
you did not kill the leviathan
they need to nerf prawn suit
not fun when every pussy thinks they finally "killed" a leviathan in a suit instead of killing it with a normal knife and stasis like I did

>>714249214
>needed the stasis rifle to pause the monster so he could hit it with no danger
glass houses pal

>>714248983
There is no lore behind it other than an event called the "Obraxis Prime Massacre" but the CEO himself said the decision to exclude guns was related to Sandy Hook rather than a gameplay factor.

Another example of the game turning out good on accident.

>>714247192
Looking at Below Zero, yeah.

>>714249214
stasis rifle is just as OP, it makes everything trivial

>>714248651
the only "quest markers" in subnautica are lifepod and seabase beacons, both things that make sense for your HUD to display in-universe and you can toggle them on/off whenever
one of the things subnautica does so well is just leaving you to your own devices to explore around and eventually you'll find the necessary stuff/location needed to progress
your PDA pushes you in the right direction or gives hints occasionally but it's only ever in response to you going somewhere or picking something up

>>714249214
killing leviathans by either method (knife/drill) gives me the same feeling as doing some weird exploit to break a game
it just seems like something you shouldn't be able to do
that said, i'm glad you can, it doesn't add anything to the game but I think making them invincible would be lame in a different way

>>714246849 (OP)
Good

>>714249825
Should've always been able to play as a (voiceless, masked) woman, a la Samus

>>714249825
>only 189 votes
grim when there's more than 10 million players of Subnautica

>>714250013
It was a twitter poll from a personal account instead of the game's official account, so probably not much visibility for the majority of the fan base, still baffling that he did the opposite of what the fans wanted.

>>714246849 (OP)
Good riddance. Now Subnautica 2 has an 80% chance of being shit instead of a 100% chance.

You just know the first thing Steve will add is guns, so it's great news with insight

>>714246849 (OP)
sounds like they made a good call. the existing staff had no idea why subnautica was good and made it by mistake. a fresh set of eyes might go back and try to emulate what made #1 so beloved instead of continuing on HRT-infused ego trips.

Wish I got the game on Epic. I don't want to pay for Subnautica and I don't want to pirate it, so gettong it chaeap is the only way.

Even with the leadership change there's no way they can fuck this up, just make the same game with a larger map, better graphics and different creatures
They can do this, r-right?

How would you make sure Subnautica 2 turns out good?
>Make landmasses rare and feel like a safe haven from the endless ocean
>Make the fish actually dangerous instead of just a bit spooky until you realise they really cannot hurt you
>Make the map a bit larger than SN1, hand craft it
>Focus on the base building parts so your bases are useful in some way beyond storage and crafting
>Hire a competent developer so the game runs without every object popping up 2 feet in front of you
What else?

>>714255795
double down on horror elements from SN1 imo, even on land. exploring an alien lab should be pitch black and only lit by your flashlight.

>>714247192
Subnautica had shitty gameplay and ran like ass when it came out, and was carried hard by its atmosphere, which was like 80% sound/music (visuals were ok but let's be honest they were nothing amazing).

What did they do? Booted their sound guy for having the wrong political beliefs. The whole fucking point of the game was pretty much to be a vehicle for Simon Chylinski's music. Krafton should give him a big fat paycheck to come in and do the sound for Subnautica 2, if they do I'll buy a copy, even if the SDS retards are involved. Or I'll at least buy a copy of the soundtrack.

>>714248651
>quest makers
You didn't play the game

>>714255795
Well the main thing I'd do is copy early Subnautica rather than late Subnautica. I'd focus more on interesting ocean biomes with lots of species of fish & plant life, ideally with varying behavioural patterns that you learn through observation and which interact with each other, instead of LOOK WE MADE ANOTHER GIANT SEA MONSTER THIS ONE'S EVEN BIGGER LOOK HOW BIG WE SCALED THE MODEL!!!11!!1!!8

But also if the game's going to have long crafting chains (early Subnautica did not; crafting chains got longer throughout the beta), add some kind of factory automation systems, including mining. Yes, in the early game, going out and hunting down samples and bits of stuff is fun. Once you've done it a few times, though, it quickly becomes tedious. I'd rather just not have long crafting chains, but if they're going to be there, then fuck it, give me Underwater Satisfactory.

So how slim are the odds that the changes up top will do something positive for the games dev period?

>>714255795
Have the facilities actually be useful and relevant to gameplay not just the story. Like make them have their own teleporter network, better automated crafters, generate resources, etc... Like maybe tie this into base building so your goal is to hook up a bunch of bases into a network to reactivate all the facilities.
Honestly maybe even just split the game up into multiple maps with fast travel between them, the back and forth is nightmarish and the seatruck doesn't help at all.

Make the game deeper and darker in more open water and not just cramped tunnels full of glowing giant crystals. None of the monsters have ever been as threatening as just the empty water, that's what makes the shelf edge scary, not the big awkward glowy snakes. There's lots of cool unexplored ideas like travelling along the floor to get between high spots, "whale falls" in the open sea full of weird creepy bugs, etc...
Like the real ocean isn't jam packed with giant carniverous electric snakes but it's damn fucking scary anyway because the water itself is the biggest threat.

>>714253779
But I don't want guns.

>>714257926
Okay I got it. You can make a stun gun that is really quick to whip out and use to stun some creature for like 15 seconds max. However to make ammo for the stun gun you need to kill a much larger and dangerous creature, like something as big as the sea snakes that lived inside those mushrooms in Subnautica 1. Creatures larger than bone sharks are immune to the stun gun effect, they only get visibly upset.

>>714246849 (OP)
>sell yourself to overlords
>overlord fires you

weird, I thought the subnautica creator had all the "right" opinions. I wonder why they kicked his ass out.

Incoming tortanic

Good. now we might get back to deep sea horror kino instead of reddit nigress talking shit. The first subnautica is the only piece of media I'm too scared to play.

>>714255795
silently execute the person who decided to add mp

>>714259320
Were goin to live service paid vehicle land with fortnite dances.

>>714246849 (OP)
>forced to play as zoomer browncattle
i will not

>>714259402
>oxygen is based on a 24 hour stamina bar from gacha games
>only 9.99 to refuel

>>714247192
They copied a game called FarSky and then improved on it
They actually buddied up to the dev and learned all his secrets and future plans and then started advertising in his own spaces
They're vermin of the lowest calibre

>>714249320
>on accident

>>714259320
>instead of reddit nigress talking shit
hahahahahaha

Deserved for fucking over NS2 with their terrible decisionmaking

>>714255795
Let me get various creatures as pets

>>714248651
you turn off the beacons in your pda and only use them to get your bearings from time to time you absolute moron

>>714248272
well can you really blame them when the former ceo was a massive xitter sjw activist that let his cultic dogma actively affect development issues

>>714249320
Shit like this and them firing the sound guy for ancient tweets really makes clear that they were lucky with the games production.
Rather lucky they couldn't ruin the game entirely a few months before release

>>714248860
then they add the repulsion cannon which is a hand cannon that can basically fling anything but the largest leviathans across the map if they get too close

for big boys you have their shitty path finding and decoys if that is not enough

>>714261556
was pretty hilarious that everyone just used the tools they were given and froze the leviathans with stasis and slowly stabbed them to death. they removed the stasis gun for Below Zero, so players just rammed all of the leviathans to death with the new Seatruck. cant wait to figure out how to ignore their intentions when they nerf vehicle ramming in Subnautica 2.

>>714255795
instead of overlong wishing lists that are guaranteed to turn it into shit the other way start with something simple. like dumping multiplayer so it does not end up eating up resources and time that could go into the dev of the base game

>>714261682
dont see any point in acking leviathans. their presence is kino with their sound design while sometimes giving a little hull damage to the otherwise invulnerable cyclops. removing them just detracts from the experience while their path finding and clipping issues alone guarantees they are not much of a threat

>>714261682
>cant wait to figure out how to ignore their intentions
>leviathans are now invulnerable
>they produce critical niche resources so you have to get close to them once in a while
what now

>>714255795
remove voiced protag nobody gets immersed because some shit brownoid actor is saying "whoa! oh man! whoa! that's crazy!" in response to everything
focus on the atmosphere which below zero has none of
stop putting oxygen refilling things underwater because it trivializes the one mechanic of the game

>>714262338
find a way to trap them with player made structures so they can't move and can be industrial cattle farmed for their resources.

>>714246849 (OP)

>>714247192
this, and like other anons said the game was carried by the atmosphere and the music was a big part of that and lol fucking lmao

>>714262606
I swam down to the end game location because oxygen plants made it trivial, it was so fucking pathetic.

I also got lost in cave mazes because they used O2 plants as an excuse to make stupidly hard to navigate mazes.

>>714247192
it wasn't really a fluke per se more like an amalgamation of ideas that had never been done before executed well enough
otoh ig you could say it was a fluke since they don't really seem to know what those ideas are despite coming up with them

>>714263116
yeah it's so bad. they probably brought a bunch of retards in to play test and found they kept drowning so they ruined the whole game for everyone

>>714255795
pretty much all of these except most importantly, the AI/animations should be something they take a massive step further because the least scary thing about subnautica is how easy it becomes to map out specific small zones that leviathans patrol like a metal gear solid mook and how little the creatures interact with eachother/how clunky they are when you actually interact with them

Leviathans dont need to be unkillable to be scary, they just need to be unpredictable, faster, smarter and more "realistic" so overpowering them underwater is basically an impossible feat. Maybe compensate for this by adding increased stealth systems to the game so you have any hope of hiding from them both in and outside vehicles

>>714246849 (OP)
Why the fuck would you hire some dude responsible for one of the greatest flops in recent years?

>>714246849 (OP)
Callisto was one of the worst games I've ever played. What the fuck are they thinking?