Is there any evidence whatsoever that the majority of people want this in games?

video games would benefit as a medium by the inclusion of more ham based food items

shareholders believe that this will expand their audience in the sense that they think most people are indifferent to this but more peopole care positively than there are people who negatively like it. it's all about money, do you understand? they do what they think will get them more sales.

>>714257931
You think any 'shareholders' got a say in this crap being stuffed into the game? You think they're being somehow asked (all of them?) for permission about every detail of the game? lol no

>>714258039
>shareholder walks into office
>brings out marketing study that says majority of people approve of trannyfag shit
>demands they put trannyfag shit into game to increase the games reach
>threatens to sue if they don't take this obvious step to maximize potential profits for shareholders

>>714258039
yes, shareholders are the ones who demand this kind of thing, and threaten to withdraw their funds if they are not appeased.

Nope.

>>714257814 (OP)
Ignoring what ever nonsense they're talking about. But are they really going to each half a ham and two huge wedges of chese n top of what looks to be a flat bread all to themsevles?

What the fuck were these designers thinking???

>>714258523
Thinking?

>>714258257
>>714258315
no, they're not, you dumb shits.
the ones enforcing this are kikes at BlackRock through their ESG ratings.
basically if companies don't support tranny shit, they get a worse ESG rating and less investment money.

>>714258648
also woke roasties in adult daycare push this shit whether anybody wants it or not.

>>714258648
and those esg ratings influence risk assessment ergo shareholders want that in.

>>714258648
>its not shareholders, its shareholders

>>714258648
Its still the shareholders encouraging the companies to chase that money

A promise to give you better loans is not 'enforcement'

>>714257814 (OP)
The intention is narcissistic someone is trying to force the non-binary image without nuance. It's funny how COD ended up having a non-binary character that barely attracted any controversy because their intention wasn't in your face, it was something you have to look for it.

>>714258648
Not that anon, but I think it's a mix of everything. Shareholders read some graphs and articles online and think the majority of players wants DEI shit because the internet has become an incredibly loud resonance chamber. The ESG ratings also scare companies a lot; they also know game "journalists" will automatically look for any trace of DEI stuff in games, see whether it's well implemented or not and react accordingly, further shifting the reviews and final scores, which matter a lot to shareholders and CEOs. Finally, often the devs themselves are the very epitome of DEI shit.

In Veilguard's case, this was even more true. The series has always been known to pander to gays and trannies, and since 90% of that Bioware team was made of trans people, gays, non-binary dudes (Traash is Weekes' spokeperson, basically, he shared his world views through her) they leaped at the chance of filling the game with their trash. Pity it backfired, because it was written so horrendously, the series' lore ruined so deeply, even die-hard fans and game "journalists" found it impossible to like it.

>>714257814 (OP)
I thjink most people don't care and it's just the pro and anti camps shouting at eachother.

>>714257814 (OP)
>that the majority of people
No but the creative lead devs want. And their friends too. And nobody has the balls to tell them to tone it down because it's the new civil rights movement. That would be like telling a black guy to be less black.

>>714258523
>"I prepared some typical Qunari food"
>it's just ham, bread, cheese and some tomatoes
>models directly copypasted from Inquisition

>>714258523
>>714259548
Yeah no one modeling this scene expected the people playing to be paying attention to the table

>>714259535
>I thjink most people don't care
They also didn't care to buy it.

>>714257931
>>714258257
>>714258315
The shareholders don't demand it, they tolerate it because the developers and marketing teams tell the shareholders it will sell more. It is not because the shareholders did any independent research of their own. That is why when the games fail the shareholders say, "Stop that shit."

Shareholders are fundamentally retarded and ignorant. You can easily learn this if you ever listened to any actual shareholder meetings. The shareholders just take whatever is told to them at face value and nod along after going, "I vaguely remember hearing about something like this issue on the news." You will also notice when shareholders quit being retarded and ignorant is when those things fail and the shareholders end up actually asking questions and expressing doubt over what they are being told.

>>714257814 (OP)
No, the devs know most people don't actively want this. But the devs' gambit is that most people won't care if it happens to be there. Which I think is true for normie AAA games.

>>714259749
I wouldn't call it retarded. it's just not their job to handle day to day business and they have shares in countless companies so it wouldn't be feasible either.

No but that won't stop the devs from chasing the mythical "modern audience"

>>714258648
>>714258523
>>714258257
>>714258039
>>714257814 (OP)
You're all wrong.
This stuff happens for two reasons
One is that companies are beholden to shareholders, which means profit over everything.
Because of this they only hire those who are willing to be exploited/underpaid
The majority of likely people to do this are ideological zealots, and they hire eachother.
The other reason is that 'woke' stuff DOES sell. See Baldur's gate 3. It just also has to be good, which is the sauce shareholders and the suits don't understand beyond 'sure put the gay shit in'. Then if it fails they go 'oh we had a coordinated chud response that smothered marketing properly' and that makes a good smokescreen. It can also sometimes increase sales due to word of mouth that some retards are mad about gays in a game or whatever.

Hey guys I just looked it up.
Everyone in this thread is correct except for this >>714260129 anon.

>>714260129
Selling regardless of being woke =/= woke stuff sells

BG3 was a legit good RPG on its own right, and honestly the wokery was minimal. It let you do things that a genuinely pozzed game wouldn't. Like there's no option in that pronoun scene to say 'thats absolute nonsense', obeying the freak's gender status is non-optional.

>>714257931
More like they'll lost a chunk of DEI money if they don't put that shit into games

>>714257814 (OP)
>>714258523
>>714259548

I was gonna comment on the food as well - that's an entire fucking ham. Do any of you guys happen to know how big a ham is? Or what it is? It's like the inner thigh of a pig. A ham, a ham ontop of some kind of unappetizing slab of unleavened bread and two entire wedges of cheese, is fucking insanity. They're never going to poop again. This is an alien replicating Earth food based off of stock images.

I have a personal theory that you can immediately tell if a piece of artwork or media is grounded in any kind of reality by food presentation. It's kind of the idea that food is both innocuous, but also a fundamental anchor in how a reality is going to function. Imagine if you were playing a game, or watching a movie, and everybody in it only had one shoe on or everybody wore hats, and it wasn't some conscious art decision, but a product of the literally everyone producing this piece of shit being the most cloistered ignorant non-person you could imagine.

>>714260653
Anon, they'll just have leftovers. They can cast ice magic and preserve it.

>>714259887
They are not chasing anything. They are making the game they want to make it and since it's a very personal identity political topic nobody can tell them that it's a bad idea. Not even marketing has the balls to tell them to tone it down because it doesn't resonate with their audience.

Ham and cheese is awesome, people in this thread have shit taste

>>714257814 (OP)
>Is there any evidence whatsoever that the majority of people want this in games?
Because... that's totally the objective, right bros? Oh right, you are one of those "they are totally doing for money and marketing reasons". Yep Yep, sure.

>>714261561
Not a huge ham guy, but I do like a lot of other pork products.

>>714257814 (OP)
>latest entry in the dragon age franchise, which started out as a spiritual successor to infinity engine games like baldur's gate and icewind dale
>turn it into a literal tranny sim action game
>it fails critically and commercially
Meanwhile BG3 is a traditional CRPG and one of the most successful games ever. This irony will never not be funny.

>>714258523
They probably just placed the ham and bread as placeholders, then couldn't be bothered to actually change them to actual believable food. Goes to show the game wasn't a labour of love, they just did what they had to do and nothing more

>>714257931
Unironically the most succinct summation of the phenomena.

>>714261706
Honestly, I think they are trying to force a market that doesn't exist TO exist so they can say," I told you people want diversity!"

>>714257931
>Shareholders
It's not shareholders anon, it's CEO's trying to make a name for themselves, wanting approval from the cattle they siphon money out of.

>>714260129
>’woke' stuff DOES sell. See Baldur's gate 3
Retard

>>714262679
incredibly LGBTQIA+ inclusive game and company

>>714263464
It sold well because it’s a very open rpg with multiple playstyles and reactivity. Nobody bought it because it met the tranny quota

>>714258523
You missed the salad that includes several whole tomatoes on a pilaf of lettuce leaves.

>>714263692
>It sold well because it’s a D&D game
There. Built-in audience.

>>714257814 (OP)
The fact you can't stop talking about it.

>>714258315
>and threaten to withdraw their funds
you don't understand how companies work at all, do you?

>>714259535
There's this thing called the silent majority. IE the blandest of bland normies who won't really complain out loud about a thing, but will also avoid something if it's too far one way or the other. Veilguard went hard into DEI bullshit that it killed an IP for the foreseeable future.

>>714263878
Dragon Age used to have that too, big successful franchise with a powerful name that millions remember fondly. Didn't help them here.

>>714263878
Then why did dark alliance flop so hard?

>>714263878
>D&D
so a niggerfaggot game for a niggerfaggot audience

>>714264153
>Dragon Age used to have that too
Yeah, back then after the first one + dlc. Then they slowly chipped away at it with every further game.

>>714264127
This anon gets it.

>>714264219
Yes? It's a larian game.

Well, now that pride shit has been in CoD, Fifa, and NBA 2K, maybe more people will be vocal about being tired of it.

>>714257814 (OP)
and I'm non-buynary haha

>>714257814 (OP)
No. It's an extremely vocal, terminally online minority.

>>714258523
Would never happed if they had hired GRRM like Miyazaki.

>>714268631
Gottem

No. They are a still an extremely small but very vocal minority.

This is not just related to games, in the real world people simply dont give a shit about this.

>>714269063
Real world people do give a shit about it but in a negative sense. Even normalfags are tired of seeing trannies and niggers everywhere.

Is there any evidence that democracy by majority won’t lead to a collapsed civilization again?

>>714269310
Things really are leading in that direction. Democracy is clearly a corrupted system that doesn't work. But what is the alternative?

>>714264052
>pure coincidence

There's nothing the majority of people want

>>714257931
>>714259749
It's shareholders being misled by focus groups in LA and New York. At least in the movie industry they've begun asking questions in recent months

>>714269914
True. People are too divided. Now more than ever.

>>714270176
yeah it's the (((consultants)))

/v/ is certainly mindbroken when it comes to “woke” stuff in videogames. There’s stuff /v/ will seethe about for days that normalfags wont even register. But this shit is something even normalfags found off putting. Even in the youtube comment sections you see people making fun of and criticizing this scene. /v/ is almost always wrong but this time they were right. On behalf of the overwhelming majority of gamers, I would like to say fuck this game and everyone who made it happen

>>714257814 (OP)
they think rpg fans are pathetic who will buy the game regardless of what's in it so they may as well try to capture a new audience by putting a bunch of gay shit in it

>>714260653
shitlibs arent people.

>>714257814 (OP)
>everyone gets their own gigantic ham and two cheese wedges

>>714258523
That's a fairly small amount of food for an average-sized person, I'd say?

>>714275097
I understood that reference.

>>714257931
>he still thinks it's all about the money

>>714257814 (OP)
It makes me want to barve all over the floor.

>>714257814 (OP)
Why do the candles have skulls on them?

>>714257814 (OP)
No the majority or people when they see trans nonsense just go "ew" and move on. It's wht Jim Sterling can't maintain an audience anymore. The moment he transitioned his viewership vanished because they had to look at a trans in order to watch his content.
Veilgusrd was the most trans Bioware title yet, and the worst selling. Not a coincidence.
I played it for free and I still feel ripped off.

>>714275948
Trying to pretend they are an edgy fantasy setting while characters discuss respecting pronouns

>>714258523
I read it in his voice

>>714257814 (OP)
Zero.
But faggots need to live under the lie that everyone loves them and accepts them, because the reality that most of the world is indifferent to them as long as they have no constant, at which point indifference turns into disgust and anger, would kill them.

>>714275097
Underrated