Give me 1 good reason why the games industry didn't die as a result of THIS GAME

>>714277962 (OP)
Because Mass Effect was never at the center of gaming during its lifetime. It was very popular, yes, but compared to the other big franchises at the time, Halo, CoD, Elder Scrolls etc... it was on the fringes.
Ergo its failure was felt but not cataclysmic enough to bring down an entire industry which was riding on more important and profitable titles.

>>714278380
But it has left a stronger impact on average than Halo, has it not? Let's be real. What mark did Halo leave past Bungie? Not a lot. It's an outright boomer 9/11 conservativefagging series struggling to pretend it was ever liberal now.

>>714278652
I don't know if Mass Effect is more influential than Halo. Culturally, I don't think so, or in popular memory either, especially when you consider the original games and not 343's attempt at handling the franchise.
Mass Effect is still very significant but I feel like its staying power isn't there, if that makes sense, unless you were a big fan of it back when it was being released. Its relevance today is minimal, but then again the same can also be said for Halo.

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>>714277962 (OP)
Why would it die as a result of ME3?
>this game that sold super well and reviewed moderately well should have KILLED the industry because... the ending was disappointing

>>714279392
I know what you mean. Only Mass Effect 2 had a cultural effect. Around ME3 people were actually buying and wearing N7 hoodies and wristbands. My friend who I didn't even know played Mass Effect had an N7 Jacket on when we drove to a party once.

But the meme became the ending, and with that, along with how ME3 just kinda... idk, it kinda sucks, in a way where it feels like amateurs made the game compared to the second one. I think that did the brand in, on top of the ending being bad (but that's a byproduct of 3 generally being incompetently done).

There are definitely high points in 3, and I can understand what someone means if they say it's the best one, or it's better than 2 because "2 doesn't work as part of the trilogy" but in the lived reality, you could tell back in 2010 that ME2 actually had a similar zeitgeist to it that other big franchises had. And then all that got lost when 3 became controversial. ME1 didn't really attract a wider audience, and 3 scared it away again. 2 made it popular though.

Replaying with the whole legendary collection, currently at 1. Man, the romance of 1 is so fucking bad it's hilarious. I literally never flirt with Ashley and flirt once with Liara yet she and Liara storm into my space after the group meeting to make me decide who I love. Like what the fuck?

>>714277962 (OP)
the mayan predicted apocalypse in 2012 did happen but it was a cultural apocalypse. from 2013 onward everything went to shit.

>>714284481
>It upended the industry, in a way in which it never recovered.

Why no studio ever try to copy Mass Effect? Like the market for space opera RPG seem like pretty good market. Literally just Larian make RPG like Mass Effect and Dragon Age nowaday.

I don’t think it’s as bad as people say it is. It’s still a better game than 90% of the garbage that AAA shits out today. It had some cool ideas that weren’t executed well

>>714284753
I disagree because all it does more than most games is tell an earnest narrative with a ton of interaction points.
But the actual game-design throughout the game is shit. That geth level where you have to shoot "viruses"? It's so utterly boring. And the same could've been achieved through having interactive dialogue, but they forced combat in a really boring way, that isn't as good as actual combat, only to make the story happen passively over it.

The game is full of stuff like that which in my experience makes it inferior to most other games, even recent ones, I've played. I only appreciated ME3 on paper and in some of the story sequences. I think both 1 and 2 did a much better job weaving the story together with gameplay.

>>714284753
People mostly mad because of the ending. That's what happen when you make a trilogy or long-running series, a bad ending can really fuck with the quality of the whole thing

Do the Mass Effect games hold up? I remember as a teenager I thought they looked kind of mid and never got the hype, and now when I look at ME1 it looks like the worst kind of PS3 era cover shooter

>>714284708
My dream situation is for the IP to be taken away from these retards and sold to someone like Larian. We’ve barely scratched the surface of what is a very cool universe

>>714277962 (OP)
normies are gullible, slavebrained and never learn

>>714285021
1 hasn’t aged super well. 2 is still a fantastic game. The first game is more of an rpg than a shooter

>>714285138
>>714285021
Yeah, been playing 1 right now and got kinda bored. Land on planet ->do some shooting-> do some scanning and looting -> leave and repeat at the next system.

>>714285021
I think so.
if the setting appeals to you and you like to have a little power fantasy doing space shit with your space bros and chilling in your space ship and have an easy time getting immersed, then i absolutely recommend giving it a try.

although if you do, get some must have mods like infinite sprint, non shared cooldowns and bigger FoV.
as a tradeoff to the cooldown mod, play on higher difficulty

>>714277962 (OP)
ME3 at least had good gameplay unlike the previous ones and the lore/story already had a fat steamy turd dropped on it with ME2 because "we want the Call of Duty audience"

>>714278652
Halo is influential in consoles. It was the first game to prove that a first-person shooter could feel smooth and natural with a controller. Its aim assist and smart button layout made shooting and moving easy, even without a mouse and keyboard. The game had strong multiplayer, both split-screen and online, made it hugely popular. At the time, it also stood out for its great story, memorable characters like and interesting sci-fi universe that felt big and mysterious.


mass effect is an amazing universe but it's irrelevant gameplay wise

>>714277962 (OP)
Because it only really shits the bed in like the final third, Rannoch was okay but after that it really turns to trash. Earth is just a slog from start to finish and once you start the conduit run the entire game goes full retard.
Just to make you realize how bad the end is: fans coped so hard that they came up with a glorified "it was all a dream" ending with the indoctrination """theory""" just to pretend that the color picking starchild bullshit never happend.

>>714285021
It holds up in the sense that ME1 is a great roleplaying experience that's bound to a horrid third person shooter gameplay, while 2 and 3 are basically just a more janky Gears of War with more emotionally compelling voice acting and writing.

In hindsight you'll end up admitting ME1 is the best game, but on your first time through you can't really get to ME3 without getting emotionally hooked, unless you already find the story stupid by the time 3 unfolds.

It really differs for some. For me, it's a franchise that superficially gets better but it actually just got worse with each entry, and for others it's a franchise that doesn't get good until ME2 or ME3.

And the ending flops in the sense that it doesn't work as an emotional climax to everything you've done in the third game, and it especially doesn't work well as an ending to all 3 games's narrative, so you're left with "the journey, not the destination" being all you can appreciate it for.

I would say they're good, but you have to be a low-key stupid person to think they're actually good after reflecting upon them. They definitely touch upon moments that just haven't been done by other games. I just don't think those moments elevate Mass Effect as a whole.

>>714285342
I'll take shittier gameplay for ME1/ME2 levels of Dialogue Sequences vs Combat Levels, any day of the week. Even ME2's "linear corridor" levels at least had one optional side-dialogue to find per level in which you got to flex the Persuasion mechanics. ME3 is a terrible roleplaying experience by comparison so I always put it far beneath the other two for that reason.

>>714285427
There are plenty of awful sequences right at the start like EDI turning into a sex robot or the fucking child sections. Everything about the story that isn't pure fanservice is just awful with the exception of beefmclargehuge being alright

>>714285323
If you can hold on until 2 it gets really good. One of my favorite games ever
>>714285427
The Earth part is such a huge disappointment. We’ve been waiting for 3 games to explore it and when we get there it’s rushed and feels unfinished.

>>714285021
They are, honestly, one of the better video game trilogy. Their quality is actually pretty consistent. 1 is the best one, hands down but 2 and 3 aren't bad at all and feel like an arc even if the ultimate ending is pretty crappy.

>>714285626
>We’ve been waiting for 3 games to explore it a

Nigga what? What is there to explore here? Just play games set on earth

>>714285716
You’re not at all curious what Earth hundreds of years in the future is like? I am

>>714285323
Hate to word it like this but I mean it: You're playing it the wrong way.
Unless you mod it, ME1 was made without a % Completion marker, and IMO you're actively giving yourself a worse experience by playing it where you have to comb over every corner of its game world.

It works far better if you just talk to people you bump into along the way when dropping on the Citadel 2-3 times throughout the game, and otherwise, talk to the crew aboard the ship, and focus on the main quest. Occasionally you'll get a video-call from Alliance Command when exploring the Galaxy Map. I took those quests, but it's a really really slow drag to complete everything you can discover, and IMO not worth it for a single playthrough. I liked it as a "pick and choose" kind of system.

But yes, ME1 always has that boring early-middle part where you don't really know where the plot is going, and everything is pretty lethargic and slow-paced. It gets better. It gets a LOT better, in fact.

>>714285824
No, because two hundret years from not, the main difference will be that more cities will look like New York or Shanghai.

>>714285716
I was happy to hear 3 would explore earth. But in execution I came out hating Mass Effect's version of Earth by the time the title cutscene appeared.

The premise in ME3 is almost as terrible as the ending itself. It makes NO fucking sense for Shepard to beckon all other allies to defend Earth, when all the other alien worlds are also attacked, or at least imminently threatened by the Reapers's ongoing invasion. We already knew this by ME1's ending, so Shepard acting all emo about Earth and getting agitated whenever people forget to mention it just so he can go "...EARTH." really pissed me off. It made Shepard feel unsympathetic and disconnected from the plot.

I can never romance Tali, she seem to much like a little sister and I can't bring myself to cuck my bro Garrus. I also won't romance Liara

>>714286049
Mass Effect had this classic structure that first person asks you to get something from second person, then second person asks you to get something from third etc

Seeing Tali and other female quarians in 3 made me really regret going for Miranda

>>714286049
Well they do give a reason after the Reaper pulled the CItadel to Earth. Just make that event happen sooner to give every other races a better motivation to help Earth. Really it was lazy writing, hoping the players would care if Earth got attacked

>>714286081
>She's too much of an imouto
If that was the reason I would be all over her.
I just think she's too vanilla, and every time I plan on it, I end up getting horny and seduced by Jack or Miranda instead.

>>714286223
miranda is a filthy coalburner anyway

>Anderson: You should ask Admiral Kohaku about that buy Banes
>Shepard: But Kohaku died, it one the news
>Anderson: He will tell you more

>>714278380
This but also 3 wasn't overall a shit game. It just had a shit ending.

>>714286192
Exactly. ME1 and ME2 have the whole "Talk to that person about the thing you just talked to that other person about."
ME3 has a few scripted scenes where it reads from your save import, and they'll reference a thing you did before and be like "Wtf, you cheated on me" or something, but in more moment-to-moment side-content it's fucking abysmal compared to the first 2 games. Everything is just commentary-dialogue that used to be background-only content, but now it's foreground content.

It reeks of lower budget and if anything it's the start of BioWare starting to suck. It always felt to me like their ambitions for "content" outgrew the scope of budget expansions, so starting with ME3, then later games including Andromeda or Dragon Age 3, they were simply writing and voice-recording way more dialogue than they actually budgeted for, leading to so many stilted sequences where all you do is stand still and watch your character repeat their idle-animation while you're literally doing nothing interactive. I think it's because I have ADHD or something but those parts make me die inside. Part of what I gravitated towards from the start was always that I got to engage with the storytelling by clicking through the choices and always feeling like a participant. That's almost entirely gone in the third game.

>>714286723
As a game, barring the ending, it's maybe a 7/10 on average, maybe an 8/10 at its height.

With the ending it's a 6/10 for me. The other two games felt pretty even. ME3 is the one that constantly had me being as angry at the game as I was delighted by it. And that's because ME3 isn't just a "fine game outside the ending." It's a game full of holes and development shortcuts that hurts the end-result very noticably. I've always noticed some people just thought "it was great!" and then agree the ending was bad. But I never understood that. I was less than impressed for large parts of it.

>>714285564
>EDI turning into a sex robot
How is this a bad thing

This nigger was such a massive wasted opportunity. He should have been a reserved older Japanese man stoically hunting Shepherd down instead of the r/atheism edge lord that we got.

I think hat I hate the most about traverse in ME 1 is riding the Mako

>>714287119
She enters a relationship with someone who isn't you.

>>714287373
Forgot pic

>>714287013
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're using the /10 rating literally and not going by IGN rules. A 6/10 is still an above average game. Ultimately 3 was the beginning of the end for Bioware and it shows. It's flawed but still a good game.

>>714284708
>Why no studio ever try to copy Mass Effect?
EXODUS and The Expanse: Osiris Reborn are both coming soon, both of them appear to be ME copycats as well.

>>714287596
it is, but I can think of a very large amount of games that are genuinely 9/10s and in a contest of Mass Effect being "some of the best games I have played" ME3 just doesn't come close to the other 2 for me, and as a franchise there's too many frustrations to make it more than an 8/10. too many signs of dev incompetence, especially in the narrative department.

In the end it just doesn't come off like a genuine trilogy. It's like the Matrix of video games more than it's the LOTR of video games, but it's often talked about as though it's "THE Trilogy" of gaming. I think there are many trilogies in games and some of them are honestly better than Mass Effect.

>>714277962 (OP)
because of all the money they make

Who did you guys sacrifice in ME1?

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>>714290663
i alternate each playthrough. and the only reason i let Kaidan ever live is because his voice actor is Carth from kotor and i like how his voice sounds.

>>714290752
But Ashley become more of a bitch though

>>714291127
But the sex, man

>>714277962 (OP)
I don't even know what you're trying to get at, so just enjoy your stupid fucking thread alone.

>>714290663
Honestly you can just flip a coin. Kaiden and Ashley are both equally boring.

>>714277962 (OP)
It kind of did.

Think about it, have we gotten a good trilogy of games since ME3 came out? Good games used to come in threes. Now we have some single good releases and very occasionally a good sequel, but there has not been a good 3rd game in a franchise since forever.