"No, you did not outplay me. You didn't even drive well. You literally keep getting the good items. I was in 1st, bullet gets right by me. Oh look, now everyone clobbers me with a hundred items".

DSP hit the nail on the head, the game is not fun, it's just random.

its mario kart

It's not random, bagging works consistently.

The answer is in the middle. It's Mario Kart, the reason the Blue Shell exists is that yeah, sometimes you're gonna get bullshitted. The problem with World is that those moments, those "I was in first and now I'm knocked out right at the finish line" egregious plays are happening to somebody pretty much every game. I saw more supreme bullshit Mario Kart losses posted online yesterday than I've seen from MK8D's entire fucking lifecycle, and both games allowed you to post from your console directly.
The idea is that the better you race in a racing game, the more you'll win races. That is not the case even at mid-level MKW, where more than half of people just hang back to collect the best items and hope to god they don't get electrocuted.
>Golden Mushroom timer now decreases significantly when you reach 5th place or higher. If you try to use a Golden Mushroom in 4th or higher, you get maybe two pops before it disappears
>Bullet Bills now immediately fizzle out when you hit 5th place, if you carry it to 5th you get a Mushroom instead

There, I fixed the game.

/v/irgins literally complain about randomness in mario party

>>714288223
Imagine you're playing the latest Mario Party, which plays out like normal, and then when Turn 20 rolls around you get 10 stars for winning Bowser's Big Blast at the very end. That is how fucking retarded MKW's item system is.

>>714286934 (OP)
Yes dumbass, that's the game, that's what the game has always been, and it is fun, if you're not having fun then maybe go play Forza or some other shit, or go make a room with no items to play with your friends like the smash autists do

>>714288442
That's literally what bonus stars are, although I agree that it would be extra retarded to complain about this on a game where most of the gameplay comes from literal dice rolls and has the word "Party" in the title

>2ND place to Khetishuge
Nah Mario Kart is good

>>714288798
There's only three bonus stars in most games, and you don't know ahead of time what they're going to be awarded for. It CAN affect the outcome of a game, but it's not gonna swing a match that's gone completely to one side the whole time.

There are so many games promoted as competitive with balance issues, but for some reason people only complain about it on Nintendo games, you know, the games not made to be competitive. Mario Kart is for mindless fun racing while laughing at people being blasted, not to be worried about timing your gears and breaking before turns.

>>714288798
But that's just it, Bonus Stars are the perfect example of that Blue Shell. Is it bullshit? Kind of, but that's just how Mario Party rolls. But if I've got five stars while the other players have three, and I won most of the minigames, in general I'm gonna come out on top because I played better.

>>714289123
>and you don't know ahead of time what they're going to be awarded for
That's exactly my point you retard, it's random rewards after the game it's done you have absolutely no control over

>>714289126
>Mario Kart is for mindless fun racing while laughing at people being blasted, not to be worried about timing your gears and breaking before turns
It’s that exact attitude that lead the devs into thinking making the game open world and thinking intermissions are fine
>”Who cares if the races are in literal straight lines, the fun lies in the chaos of it all”

>>714289147
If you're so ahead of the pack a blue shell won't cost you any positions, the same way anyone in a position where they can get a bullet bill won't be able to reach you, maybe the reality is that people whining about items just suck at the game and a red shell can't end the race for them

>>714289534
This is the main reason why people are complaining about the intermission tracks, though. Yeah, on a 3-lap race a guy who knows every shortcut and gets ten miles ahead of everyone else isn't going to lose his top spot to a shell or lightning blast. But when like 80% of the available courses don't have any shortcuts that can be taken without items reserved for the back of the pack, there isn't much the frontrunner can do to get a sizable lead. Then they get blasted with a cannon salvo that'd put Napoleon's army to shame at the last minute and lose with very little they can do to stop it.

>>714289126
>people only complain about balancing issues with nintendo games
Who the fuck are you kidding?