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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:48:42 PM No.714298226
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Does this game get better as an rpg? I am not disliking it rn, but it feels like the dialogue choices feel very limited. Feels a bit like FO4 (a piece of shit) but not that dumbed down. I'm only a few hours in, of course.
Will there be more branching paths?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:50:07 PM No.714298382
>>714298226 (OP)
>repeated feels thrice
Sorry Ive been tired
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:56:32 PM No.714299008
No. It's fairly bad as an RPG. It's a fun sci-fi game with some attention to detail, especially world-building. There is no sequel. What is called ME2 is basically a side game Frankensteined into looking sort of like a sequel. It's more of a proper action game/shooter too.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:02:24 PM No.714299547
>>714298226 (OP)
Dont listen to haters, ME2 was the best since you get to experience a side quest in the world of Mass Effect. None of the games are "RPG", the first game just has the shittiest shooter mechanics paired with the most useless skill point system so contrarians will hang on to that and claim it was "most like RPG" when it really was nothing of the sort
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:08:44 PM No.714300216
>>714298226 (OP)
>None of the games are "RPG"

The first game has RPG mechanics and the game itself was marketed as such.

That's the reason why the first game is the only good ME game. Cerberus side quests are way better than ME2 main story and Shepard barely mentions any of them.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:11:13 PM No.714300445
>>714300216
>That's the reason why the first game is the only good ME game
Everyone begs to differ.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:12:24 PM No.714300559
>>714300216
>That's the reason why the first game is the only good ME game.
No, it's a good game because it's the rare details > drama kind of space game. It's still a space opera but it doesn't overplay the aspect.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:13:20 PM No.714300656
>>714299008
>>714300216
Contrarianism in 2025.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:14:52 PM No.714300812
>>714300656
No, I was calling you braindead dudebros back when ME2's gritty and edgy advertisement attracted the broader audience.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:15:58 PM No.714300925
>>714298226 (OP)
i dont agree with your assessment about dialogue choices. i think me1 has a really good nuanced selections in conversation. but if you're not hpapy with it in 1, no it does not get better. it gets worse in 2, and horribly limited in me3. the reason it reminds you of fallout 4 is because bethesda decided to copy bioware's dated dialogue choice style for fo4 for some odd reason.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:16:12 PM No.714300956
The dialogue choices were considered revolutionary for it's time in 2007. Today, yeah it's nothing special but it's still a great fun trilogy regardless.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:16:16 PM No.714300965
>>714300445
>Everyone begs to differ.

If by everyone you mean casual players then by all means. Me2 is the most popular game of the trilogy, I don't deny it.

>>714300559

>it's a good game because it's the rare details > drama kind of space game

Yeah, most RPGs try to make a game interesting by adding the stuff you mentioned you know..
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:19:12 PM No.714301252
>>714300965
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>If by everyone you mean casual players then by all means. Me2 is the most popular game of the trilogy, I don't deny it.
ME2 is the highest rated game in the franchise. Everyone agrees to this. And it can only be the highest rated, if it is the best game in the franchise. Therefore, ME2 is the best game in the franchise, and everyone agrees. By differing your opinion, to one that nobody holds, you confirm yourself as being a nobody, and relegate your opinion as not worth of mention, or notice.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:23:42 PM No.714301685
>>714301252
Your bold statements don't make your opinion right though.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:25:03 PM No.714301826
I thought there was a comment here, but I guess it was nobody.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:25:35 PM No.714301878
>>714298226 (OP)
>rn
fr?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:26:20 PM No.714301963
>>714301878
no cap
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:27:34 PM No.714302106
>>714300965
>Yeah, most RPGs try to make a game interesting by adding the stuff you mentioned you know..
That's not what defines an RPG.
You can have an extremely well-developed game world but if it plays like a VN it's a VN. That's a hyperbola, ME is not a VN obviously. But the separation between player skill and character skill is fairly weak.
Next, some choices do have consequences but this was meant to properly develop in the sequel which never came. The waifu simulator with some seedy detective story on the side took some of those loose ends and either wasted or ruined them.
Finally, the variety of solutions is low and choices are not that frequent. You are limited to shoot things, sometimes talk things through. You can probably still find text RPGs from the '80s with much greater variety of solutions, and better execution of such paths too.

For one of the earlier 3D games with muh cinematic experience ME did well enough. Being close to the start of that age allows to forgive it much. But I'm trying to be accurate.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:30:19 PM No.714302428
>>714298226 (OP)
fuck you.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:31:46 PM No.714302591
>>714302106
Another nobody opinion.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:35:36 PM No.714302995
>>714298226 (OP)
No it gets less like a rpg the more games in.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:37:05 PM No.714303146
>>714302106
>That's not what defines an RPG.

It does, Mass Effect can be considered an action RPG, such as Skyrim. If you compare them to old school RPGs they're both just action games with some RPG elements. That's why they're called RPG often, they just don't want to add the 'A' first. Some consider this offensive yet ARPG is still a sub-genre of the RPG genre because it takes some key elements from it.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:37:12 PM No.714303163
>>714302995
It was a shooter with dialogue choices.
It was never an RPG.
Alpha Protocol was an RPG.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:38:45 PM No.714303314
>>714303146
>Mass Effect can be considered an action RPG, such as Skyrim
The lack of self-awareness is just startling when I read this shit.
If Skyrim is an RPG, DMC is an RPG.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:43:27 PM No.714303772
>>714303146
>an action RPG
This is an incredibly retarded portmanteau which caused a great deal of damage over the years. Hybrids between genres have existed for a long time but only when LGBTRPG+ came into frequent and usually mindless use it became just an excuse to group completely different games together.
Sadly even Skyrim allows more variety due to being a sandbox. You can use environment or infighting against your enemies, for example.

>RPG elements
Another thing that has caused much damage to categorisation.

>ARPG is still a sub-genre of the RPG
It is not. It is a genre hybrid.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:44:32 PM No.714303874
>>714303314
Skyrim is an RPG and DMC is a hack and slash you retard. Very retarded game comparison, their genres are pretty obvious
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:44:47 PM No.714303898
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Just playing through the first one again for the first time in years. Still holds up, great game. I'm going to replay the whole trilogy. All three of them are fun, though I can see why people might not like any of them.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:45:49 PM No.714303996
>>714301252
>it can only be the highest rated, if it is the best
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:46:28 PM No.714304063
>>714303874
>Skyrim is an RPG and DMC is a hack and slash you retard.
Again, the lack of self awareness.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:47:29 PM No.714304167
>>714303996
Yes.
It's why FF13 isn't the best final fantasy.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:47:46 PM No.714304207
>>714303996
That means TLoU2 is better than TLoU1.

Cuckmannsisters we won
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:50:08 PM No.714304427
>>714301252
>it can only be the highest rated, if it is the best game in the franchise

Most retarded statement I've read. Lol, lmao even
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:52:16 PM No.714304660
>>714304427
Angry Birds is the best game ever made, after all. Regardless, I think it's enough of feeding the troll that normally parasitises on /vrpg/. Assuming OP wasn't him to begin with. But just on the off chance that's a real anon he deserved to see some genuine opinions.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:52:23 PM No.714304674
Ah yes the classic "when does it get good" worthless thread.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:54:01 PM No.714304830
>>714304427
What is the alternative? No system of rating? All games just are and all are equal? Veilguard as good as Planescape: Torment? Only personal, subjective opinions matter? Give me an alternative.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:08:57 PM No.714306323
>>714303898
Kek
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:24:40 PM No.714307840
>>714304830
where do you think you are, child?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:25:41 PM No.714307927
>>714307840
That's not an answer. You're not giving an alternative, much less a reliable system by which to determine quality and worth.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:31:13 PM No.714308435
>>714307927
>reliable
lmao child ratings haven't been reliable for over a decade now.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:33:01 PM No.714308626
>>714308435
Coming up with nothing, is not an alternative.
And btw, ME2 was released 15 years ago. That's a decade and a half. Even if they weren't totally reliable in 2010, they were a hell of a lot more reliable than they were in 2015.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:35:43 PM No.714308894
ME 1 is the only entry to nail the cosmic horror angle. The intro with everybody staring slack-jawed at the Reaper footage is PEAK.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:37:58 PM No.714309138
>>714308894
Sovereign looked like a big space ship. At what point did anyone think
>AAAAH! It's a giant space ship, I'm going insane, help me Niggerman!
Nobody thought that.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:39:09 PM No.714309252
>>714308626
>coming up with nothing isn't better
this is bait or you are retarded.
doing your own research has BEEN the better option for the last decade.
>time will magically make the corrupt journalists better
no, it doesn't work like that, child.
you need to be 18 to post on here.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:40:10 PM No.714309361
>>714309138
nta but did you play the game
it didn't look like a ship. not in the intro footage.
it looked like a giant fucking HAND reaching out.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:48:04 PM No.714310151
>>714309361
nta but i beat it for the first time 2 days ago. looked like a squid. wasnt scary at all
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:51:29 PM No.714310474
>>714310151
It's not so much that it's scary, it's that it's unexplained. It's a mystery nobody has ever seen before which is how you get a room full of veterans acting dumbfounded. It's KINO and I will hear no other objection to this FACT. ME2 and 3 are unserious and verge on comedy. ME1 is genuine cosmic horror mystery.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:58:17 PM No.714311080
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>>714310151
I am talking about this shot, man.
those are segmented joints like a glove.
not a squid.