I dont get people bitching about dungeons, there's only like one or two that felt redundant.

bitch are you serious

>>714321172 (OP)
copy and paste slop with a few changes here and there

All of them are the same.

>>714321172 (OP)
There are like 3 or 4 dungeon templates and each one of the same kind feels procedurally generated.

>>714321172 (OP)
IDK, I felt burnt out on them by the back-end of Liurnia

There's too many that are shit-tier in the early game so everyone gets soured on them. From Altus onward the dungeons are pretty great but you go through so many throwaway layouts in Limgrave, Weeping Peninsula, and Liurnia that unless you're really into dungeon crawling you won't even want to do them at all anymore.

>>714322064
every time I stumbled upon a dungeon it was a relief, like I no longer have to wonder around and there's finally some structured content

>>714321172 (OP)
It was all the same shit that went 1 of 2 ways

>walk in
>walk past door that can't be opened yet
>descend down and kill shit waits for you to come around a corner
>reach the bottom, find mask that makes funny noise
>elevator back up to switch that opens door you passed on the way in

Or

>nearly same shit as above
>walk into boss room with tree roots in the back
>kill easy boss, get summon weaker than what you already have
>touch shortcut teleport to go back to the entrance

It was boring after the first couple times of both

>>714322330
The whole game is hand-crafted and structured. That doesn't make it all good.

>>714321172 (OP)
The catacombs and tombs are very slow to ramp up, they don't really get genuinely interesting until Altus, and I don't remember if the caves ever do. The good catacombs are really good though, I love the ones that trick you with the duplicate rooms and fake dead enemies.

>>714321172 (OP)
Some of the layouts are pretty good, it's the copypaste textures and enemies that blows. They don't even do the absolute bare minimum of palette swaps.

I have an i5-8400, a RTX 580 4gb and 16gb of RAM. Can my PC run this game? I can run DMC5 relatively fine.

>>714325786
Assuming you mean an RX 580 and not a GTX 580 (which I don't think even had 4GB), you're right on the minimum requirements.

>>714322330
>i kept getting my jimmies rustled because i couldn't stop myself from wondering what the next boss would be, what a relief that 80% of all bosses are repeats and reskins!

>>714326113
But how smoothly will it run and will it look like shit? I'm gonna upgrade my pc soon, I'm thinking I might as well buy it now since it's on sale and if it runs well then that's a bonus.

>>714326289
https://youtu.be/81sGFlQ9EF0 Here's a video of my system thats somewhat like yours, although its old i dont know if patches made the game run better or worse. Off the top of my head I don't remember any areas running like crap.

>>714326971
The trees look like shit but other than that it looks pretty good. I might just have to get it.

>>714321172 (OP)
Fuck those imps. Specially the ones that fight along that Watchdog

>>714321172 (OP)
I wanted more. Even if they are similar. The game is fun and they should have added more.

Fuck amine who disagrees

>>714321172 (OP)
Damn nigga tell me how exciting it was to fight your first erdtree watchdog? How about the watchdog with three heads? Slammin, now imagine your excitement when they put you up against TWO at the same time!

>>714329376
>now imagine your excitement when they put you up against TWO at the same time!
That''s a pretty tough fight if you do it straight (or at least it was at launch before the duo boss lobotomy), or it's a cool gimmick if you learned about crystal darts.

>>714321172 (OP)
only the hero's graves, or whatever they're called, are any good, and there are like 3

>>714325786
Never trust any answer you get about this stuff, just pirate it and find out.

>>714334029
I'm upgrading my pc soon and it will definitely be able to run it fine then. Should I just get it now? How often does it go on sale?

>>714321541
Yes, and you would agree if you played the fucking game

>>714322064
They start to get really cool after liurnia

>>714321172 (OP)
Try the one with this bitch right on the start on Limgrave - the one behind goblin key

>>714325786
>>714326289
For 1080p you're fine. Will need to back off on a few settings (try grass, surprisingly demanding), but should be able to hit 60 most of the time. Some fights will chug, if you can't stand it, go down to 720 for that fight.
t. Played elden ring for several hundred hours with an RX 480

honestly some of the dungeons were shitty because they didn't have any decent loot, makes it feel a little pointless.

>>714338073
What the game needs more than anything is for weapons you pick up throughout the game to be pre-upgraded to a bit below the area you find them in

>>714338073
>>714338298
Hard to reach weapons anyway, not just shit you find on the floor.

>>714337132
I played it twice in a row when it came out. The first time was the best experience I had with a From game, the second was the second worst before DS2 because once the wonder of exploration is gone you have a ton of filler separating a few great bosses.

>>714341256
Chat GPT ass post that has nothing to do with what we were talking about

>>714321172 (OP)
They got tedious after Mountaintops when enemy power levels suddenly jump to two shot-ing you.

>>714342172
>t. 30 vigor and light rolling with a scorpion charm

>>714321172 (OP)
Its all the same shit with shit rewards

>>714342221
Wrong. Heavy rolling with marika’s and radagon’s soreseal AND the scorpion charms.

What dungeons? Dark souls hasn't had a real dungeon since sen's fortress. elden ring has "loot caves" a la starfield only they put a bunch of ds3 monsters in them

>>714342221
30 vigor is plenty in Dark Souls 1. What's a good level in Elden ring? Also What level do you usually reach the endgame at? For Dark Souls it was ~100.

>>714344087
I remember hearing 60 recommended, but I thought 40 was fine.
Think I finished somewhere in the 135-150 range.

>>714344087
For the late base game 60 vig and like 130-160ish.
For the late DLC 80 vig and like 200ish.

>>714344258
What kind of build would you recommend for a first play though? I was thinking just a dex build becasue of how versatile that was in DS1.

If you are talking about these cave dungeons the problem is that they have no reward

>>714344359
>For the late DLC 80 vig and like 200ish.
Shut the fuck up.

>>714344505
I'm just telling the truth

>>714344389
Frankly I don't think you can go wrong, everything felt good to use to me. I mainly did str+fth my first base game playthrough and dex for the dlc, but I dicked around with everything to some extent.

>>714321172 (OP)
There's too many shit tier low level dungeons in early game, otherwise it'd be fine, Limgrave is padded with dogshit

Elden Ring gets seriously dragged down as an experience specifically because after a short while, you've exhausted the few different types of explorable locations, and finding a new one just becomes a tedious mark on a checklist instead of something to explore with wonder. It really bottoms the game out, honestly. They should have made a game 1/3 the size and made the locales much more varied

>>714344568
No, you're telling bullshit nonsense. There's no reason to go above 60 vigor or level 150 for the DLC.

>>714344087
>What's a good level in Elden ring?
60 and you should be at least to 50 by Mountaintops. Going from 30 to 40 is by far the biggest jump though, it's nearly a 50% increase in HP.
>Also What level do you usually reach the endgame at?
~150 (~200 with DLC)
No point in raising vig past 60, you get fuck all for returns. Put the points into endurance for heavier armor, or invest into mind and faith for defense buffs. Black Flame's Protection is actually insane, the sturdiest they've let the player be since Warding in Demon's Souls.

>>714344595
In DS1 it felt really awkward to multi class like that. To be fair I've only played the game twice, but is it easier in Elden Ring?

>>714321172 (OP)
Correct, every single dungeon has a unique gimmick. It's the assets that become boring, there's only cave, ruins and hero tombs. Also, there are many copy pasted elements, such as the stairs leading to a boss room, which adds to the feeling of repetitiveness.

Also, people tend to miss those dungeons, and come back later using a wiki and chain them, burning themselves out. That and people come back to early missed dungeons after completing big ones, and only remember the last ones they did, the easy ones.

>>714344630
You've never played the game. The dungeons get increasingly interesting as you progress.

>>714344729
>but is it easier in Elden Ring?
Yes, much. Not only do you have a lot more levels to play with, but there's a lot more opportunity to use multiple stats cooperatively, with both spells and weapons

>>714344816
No, they don't.

>>714344729
There's a pretty wide spread of stat scalings within each weapon category, and you also get the ability to customize weapons with ashes of war and whetstones that further change the weapon properties and scalings (for example, you can make anything a fth-scaling fire weapon or an int-scaling frost weapon). You're also given a large number of respecs to change your build, so there's plenty of room to experiment.

>>714338298
I agree, one of the worst thing in souls games is how you use the same weapon the entire run.

How about removing weapon upgrading, and instead have hard to unlock mastery levels (through quests and secret rewards) that will increase damage with every weapon?

>>714338298
they did that occasionally but not enough for it to be meaningful

>>714344671
>over level 150 for the DLC
There's no reason not to with how many runes you get. If you start the DLC at like 130-150 you can easily get to 180-190 just from all the random bosses that give you like 200k runes.

Beat the DLC for the first time this morning
150 with 40 vig and 19 scad ess v:
I didn't bother leveling at all in the dlc cuz the scad things were more than enough

>>714321541
I like crawling in deep dark caverns, it makes me feel like a hero delving into the darkness which normal people are too scared to dive into

>>714325786
I played it for like 400 hours on a Ryzen 3 3200G with no GPU, at fully crunchy 450p graphics and around 30-40 FPS in most areas, and still had a lot of fun with it.
ER's optimization is kind of weird, it's like everything only really needs your CPU and all graphical settings barely change anything (not even the resolution), but because of that you can run it on almost anything somehow.

I never beat radahn
I fucked up doing the DLC at ng+3, he's fucking hard and it's just an unfun fight, I don't feel compeled to do 150 tries

>>714328662
They actually added more, in the DLC that is. It's almost funny how much bigger and more complex the catacombs and caves are in the DLC.

Do your characters get saved on the Steam cloud for this game?

>>714322064
ideally you just go into them, touch the grace and then mark it with something to show it hasn't been finished and come back to it whenever

>>714345895
Just use a shield poke build bro

>>714344729
ER has a lot of low-requirement spells and unique weapons that are mostly physical scaling but have minor int/fth requirements. I'd say it's just as important to have a little bit of int or faith on a physical build as it is to have a little bit of str or dex on a magic build. You can go full-on hybrid too, all magic is happy to have some dex for faster casting speed and there's an incantation seal specifically for str/faith builds, as well as other casting tools for other oddball stat spreads.

>>714345895
You fucked up playing any dark souls game past NG+0. Other than dark souls 2, they probably don't even fucking test it.

>>714346502
You have to if you want every weapon
Like, now I need to go to ng+6 to get the sword of light, darkness and the stone one

>>714346705
what are you going to do with every weapon, anon?

>>714346705
I'm too autistic for that, if I want to use a new weapon I just make a new character and start a new run from scratch. Never really bothered trying to collect everything either because the amount of wikiing you need sounds like ass

>>714346956
Be high level enough to use them all and impress girls

My save was 100% with everything at lvl24 but now with the DLC I need a bunch of new stuff