Thread 714335773

>both pretentious
>both have massive egos
>both make games as if they were movies
>both hacks
>but one is greatly loved and the other greatly hated
why?

>>714335773 (OP)
Because Kojima is not a gay.

Honest answer - because Druckmann mocks his audience on social media while Kojima embraces them.

nostalgia

>>714335773 (OP)
People keep saying Kojima makes movies but they have better gameplay than 90% games on the market

>>714335773 (OP)
Hate both but at least kojima made good stuff at least for a while and isn't as much of a faggot as cuckman

>pretentious hack
:I
>pretentious hack, japan
:O

>>714335773 (OP)
There's a sense of real sincerity to Kojima's weirdness. The stuff that ends up pretentious in Kojima games and the stuff that ends up super down to Earth and gamey are rarely ever what you'd expect

>>714336553
That's the thing, MGS always had very strong gameplay for the era it was released in. The closest criticism you can get for gameplay would be how there's not as much of it because of the narrative emphasis

>>714336624
>pretentious hack
:I
>pretentious hack, japan
:O
>pretentious hack, jew
>:(

>>714335773 (OP)
>both pretentious
>both have massive egos
not Kojima, that's a myth. The other faggot? yes absolutely, he wish he was even remotely close to brilliant as Kojima. NEXT GUY

>>714336624
Came here to post this

>both make games as if they were movies
This isn't actually true of Kojima if you actually played his games.

>>714335773 (OP)
Kojima games are at least unique and have good gameplay, interesting ideas and stories.

>>714335773 (OP)
Neither of them make movie games. Death Stranding is an open world action game and Last of Us is a linear action game with large open levels. Movie games are things like The Order 1886 or Hellblade

>>714336430
>Druckmann mocks his audience on social media
Did he really?

Kojima is an absolutely incredible game designer that actually fucking cares about video games and makes stuff that is fun to play while ALSO being really good at directing cinematic cutscenes

Neil Druckmann is a fucking nepobaby hack that wishes he was Kojima and was adored like him, but he hates videogames

Kojima makes games inspired by movies
Druckmann makes movies with a game stapled onto them
and Druckmann's movies are shit, too

>>714336819
the directors cut has almost 12 hours of cutscenes

>Kojima is beloved because he created one of the greatest video game franchises ever made

>Druckmann made a hated sequel to a beloved game (he had barely anything to do with the 1st one)

How is this even a question? Not to mention Kojima has now made Death Stranding after MGS which is also dope.

TLDR: Kojima deserves his success. Cuckmann is a hack FAGGOT

>>714337074
and double that in gameplay

both are hated, dumbass

>>714336553
The last of us devs have talent. Shame it is wasted on boring garbage.

>>714337029
>>714337127
Based.

>>714336765
do you guys ever think maybe there is a reason why almost everyone seems to hate you?

>>714335773 (OP)
Kojima is equal parts pretentious as he is retarded, which makes it more sincere and honest with what he does. Druckmann is just pretentious

>>714337029
>Neil Druckmann is a fucking nepobaby
He is?

>>714335773 (OP)
It took decades for Kojimbo to become as recognized as he is today. People grew up with his eccentricities, which are now well known and feel honest. Even if his statements are stupid you kinda shrug and go "yup, sounds like la creatividad."
Druckmann got the directorial role for a lone series [not including Intergalaxative] and now thinks he is entitled to both respect and worship in the game industry and Hollywood.
NEXT GUY

>>714337127
>Druckmann made a hated sequel to a beloved game (he had barely anything to do with the 1st one)
He was the writer and co-director? Just because Straley had input on Druckmann's ideas doesnt mean Druckmann didn't still write it

>>714337463
>you guys ever think maybe there is a reason why almost everyone seems to hate you
Why do you think that anon is jewish?

>>714335773 (OP)
Because Kojima doesn't reject fun
>>714336553
Yeah having great gameplay was the only reason I tolerated mgs cutscenes.

>>714337463
I think the reason everyone hates jews is quite apparent

>>714337658
Kojima has been making games for 40 fucking years, how fucking dare people try to compare cuckmann to the legend that is Kojima. HOW FUCKING DARE YOU

>>714337463
Yeah people hate Jews because they're all rich successful and talented while also being a very exclusionary culture that all help each other. Who wouldnt be envious of that? I fucking wish I was Jewish

>>714337689
This dude made Druckmann tolerable. Without him Druckmann was able to run wild and you can see what DOGSHIT that led to with Last of us 2.

>>714337749
>Because Kojima doesn't reject fun
How does the last of us reject fun when the combat is very fun?

>>714337849
let me guess, you're a trump voter

>>714337946
I agree the story is bad but Druck was also the game director, and the gameplay is very good

>>714337946
They were a good team desu shame he left the company

>>714336553
That's bullshit. MGSV had appalling AI which had the awareness of a deaf dog, not to mention cutscene after cutscene.

>>714337946
Straley was the real mastermind behind TLOU.

>>714337689
most of druckmann ideas were rejected because they were absolutely retarded, and you can see the result in the second game, if it wasn't for Straley, the first game would end up looking like the second.

>>714338002
>gameplay is very good
Yes, the mechanics are good. They also could've been better used and improved in another game which pretty much says it all. The mechanics were good because of the actual devs working on them. Not because of some hollywood wannabe.

>>714338090
The gameplay improved between the first and second game

>>714338002
Gameplay is fine but I'm saying that Straley kept Cuckmann in check with his writing. You can find the stories of the shit that cuckmann wanted in the original game. Linking from an old Reddit post that covers some of this:

I watched a talk that Neil gave to a university writing class sometime in 2013/2014.

In it, he discussed his unsuccessful pitches of TLOU and the seed of the story he had.

He mentioned that he had this idea of a virus wiping out just women, turning them into violent infected, and only one woman was immune, and a grizzled detective/film noir type leading guy was the lead.

He spoke of how the story was pitched to comic books and none baited. He pitched the story to Naughty Dog and was told that it's going to be seen as misogynistic if the virus only infected women and you're just beating and killing infected women for the entire game.

So he kept working on the story and fixing and changing based on the input of those around him. He had to get rid of things that weren't working.

Bruce told him what themes and story beats won't work. The actors and actresses infused their own takes on scenes and character interactions.

The game was hugely collaborative, with Neil's partners and the actors working in tandem to create the end product.

Now I don't know how it ended up that he became the rockstar, but it seems that he enjoyed the attention, loved doing the interviews and talks, and so stepped up to become the face of the franchise. After all, it was "his story".

But proof that the guy isn't a lone genius is that when his biggest partner, Bruce, left the company, we get something like The Last of Us Part II.

I don't care about kojimbo's metal fag solid or any of his celebrity crap but he genuinely changed the horror landscape with PT
To this day there are hundreds of shitty PT clones with some literally just copy and pasting the PT house, it also made "loop" horror more popular
so yes I'll give him props for that but he's still a fag for jerking off hollywood so much

>>714337959
he rejects fun by killing off the main character in the dumbest fucking way possible, cause the real Joel would have NEVER fell for that trap. No wonder Straley left, fucking disgusting how Cuckmann with that other stupid whore had to ruin a beloved character like this

>>714338196
he wasn't the gameplay director, faggot only wrote a shit story with that woke dumb bitch

>>714335773 (OP)

Despite Kojima's odd taste and questionable design decisions he puts genuine passion and care in to his games, it's clearly an outlet for artistic fulfilment to him and not just his job. It's this element of generosity that gives his games an inherent level of merit that is refreshing in the current state of the industry.

>>714335773 (OP)
Kojimas games are cinematic but they still try and lean into being games in a very explicit way, they take advantage of the medium.

Druckman sacrifices gameplay for cinema

>>714335773 (OP)
The Last of Us 2 is a better game than Death Stranding 2 unironically

>>714338482
LOL

nice bait I'll drop a (You)

>>714338251
The reason why Kojima horror games are so good is cause he's legit scared of these things, he can barely watch a horror movie, that's why he's the perfect man for a good horror game unlike all those other devs who feel nothing when making these games

>>714338593
you can already see it in DS2, the horror elements are so good and the BT areas from atmosphere, over sound design etc. it's all so well done and legit scary. OD will change horror games forever.

reminder that Bruce was the filter of stupid ideas made by druckmann

Kojimbles actually saved my life once. I was getting mugged and the guy pulls a gun on me. I make a run for it and could hear the shots ring out and a bullet graze my cheek. Suddenly everything goes silent. I keep running because I'm scared for my life and turn the corner around a building. About ten feet ahead Kojima is sitting on a bench sipping Gyokuro out of a silver chalice. He holds his hand up, signaling me to stop. I tell him there's a guy with a gun. He doesn't speak English so telepathically he tells me to check again. I look around the corner and the mugger is nowhere to be found except for a pair of black boots where he was standing. Kojima walks over and slips into the black boots (he was just in socks before). He then relays to me that a man can learn a lot by walking in another mans boots. I asked him what he meant by that and he said it was a metaphor. He then turned the corner around a building and I never saw him again.

>>714335773 (OP)
Cause Druckmann made a LE ZOMBIES BAD BUT HUMANS WORSE game that's the most generic crap ever and Kojima made invisible fucking things that fuck you up while everything's drenched in some weird oil and time-traveling rain and flying whales and swallowing babies while a dozen creepy corpses watch you from the sky.
I'll never understand what people see in TLoU, I feel like I've already experienced the same kind of story many times. Maybe it's cause I'm old and TLoU catered to lgbt zoomers who know shit about nothing.

i like how we'll pretend walking courier simulator is good gameplay just cause he's jap

>>714335773 (OP)
Guy on right is incapable of making a good game without a lot of hand holding

Basically a worse George Lucas

Also he fucked over a lot of the people he used to work with and destroyed careers to advance his own, complete psychopath

>>714338482
I understand being contrarian but cmon my guy

One has more than 1 good game under his belt and actually makes games with creative and thoughtful mechanics in addition to making huge cutscenes since the 80's and the other is a fraud. It's really simple

>>714337849
>>714337973
samefag nigger.
get out.

I put Japanese David Cage on the same tier as Next Guy.

Easy. Kojima doesn't sell woke garbage like Druckman, Bud Light or Jaguar.

>>714339296
>I feel like I've already experienced the same kind of story many times
Because you probably already have
TLOU basically tells the "le father figure to someone not actually family " story again but it in a solid polished way, it was also the height of walking dead popularity so people still gave a fuck about zombies

>>714340052
>Kojima was nice to me, a tranny, when I met him
That's not the same thing. Eat something besides onions.

>>714335773 (OP)
Kojima has a better art designer

>>714335773 (OP)
left
>likes hot women, hires them as NPCs in his game, likes feet
>makes games because he just likes it
right
>mocks people who like hot women, hires dykes and troons as NPCs in his game, follows Anita Kikeestan's vision
>makes games because he has kike agenda
gee I wonder

>>714335773 (OP)
Who was Kojima's Amy Hennig? Who was the one truly responsible for MGS's success?

>>714340052
Nigga, Hunter was woke before it was cool also Kojima put gay shit in his games before it was woke and cool, he's way ahead of all you fucking zoomers

>>714340368
>hires dykes and troons
uuuumhhh>>714340052

>>714340419
>
uuuuuumhhh>>714340386

>>714335773 (OP)

Kojima isn't a loxist.

>>714340419
Hunter is still better looking than most of the TLOU2 cast. and I say this as someone who goons to trans porn.

>>714337658
>Druckmann got the directorial role for a lone series [not including Intergalaxative] and now thinks he is entitled to both respect and worship in the game industry and Hollywood.
He had that position promised 3000 years ago, ok

>>714337136
That's an appallingly bad ratio

>>714340368
ellie and elena are hotter than past prime butch lesbian lea seydoux and quiet

also right would align right-wing values cause he loves israel, but both are leftists

>>714335773 (OP)
Kojimbo wants to have fun and use wacky ideas. The Fag wants to be taken seriously and do serious work for serious people, while pushing the gay agenda as was coded into his jewish genes.

>>714335773 (OP)
kojima isn't a jew and his games are fun

kojima made real games at one point in time

>>714335773 (OP)
Kojima actually made a couple good games.
Cuckman never has.

>>714335773 (OP)
Kojima is a visionary that predicted many things behind his silly writing, cuckman is an identity politics fetishist that took over an existing intelectual property.

>>714340120
actually rope is always the solution

>>714335773 (OP)
One is an amalek-hating kike, the other is not. At least, the other guy is better at hiding it.

>>714340342
Right. A nightmarish thing from sci-fi dystopias.

>>714335773 (OP)
Kojima has cute girls.

>>714335773 (OP)
All of Kojima's works can still function entirely as a game. In MGS1-3 you can skip every cutscene and experience a tight, slim game just like a classic Resident Evil entry. They're designed for replayability first and foremost so you can go for better rankings. Even Death Stranding, for however bloated it is, is still gameplay centric first and foremost. Kojima also did push the envelope of what was possible in that 5th-6th gen era. A fuckton of soulful details.

Druckman has done none of that. All of his games are Uncharted clones lol. Tons of walk and talk garbage with automated gameplay. TLOU2 for example, is an extremely polished TPS - but it does nothing special. All the "technology" moments indicate the team had a fuckton of money and time, but shows no creativity.

Kojima also created mind-blowing stories that fans of MGS1-4 were eagerly awaiting follow-ups for. They had a fantastic mystery and buildup, despite PW, 4 and V dropping the ball. Meanwhile, Druckman'anstory for TLOU is standard Walking Dead trite with a silly moral that's overturned by the amount of bloodshed that you're actually doing in the game. Lol, meanwhile Kojima actually gave you pacifist options for every entry minus MGS1.

It's might and day. Kojima, despite being a hack in the modern day, still built his reputation in that wild-weat of vidya development where great devs had to be creative and good at their job. Druckman stands on the shoulders of giants, meanwhile he (and Naughty Dog) have done absolutely nothing innovative. At least Kojima, for whatever western film influences he had, created and defined genres while pushing the medium. Druckman made uh.. a walking dead style zombie TPS? Lol. Innovation isn't something he can do.

Give Druckman a miniscule budget and let's see what games he can make. Like a portable game or something. Kojima could do it though.

>>714335773 (OP)
Anti-Semitism

>>714335773 (OP)
Kojima can actually make a game that you play, DS is like 90% gameplay.

Guy on the left made 10+ kino games starting in 1987 while guy on the right made 3 0/10 megagoyslop in the last decade

>>714335773 (OP)
Kojima is a funny guy that isn't much of a tryhard. Look at the absolute dumb shit he put in his games. Compared to Mr. We Don't Use The Word Fun it's pretty clear he isn't as pretentious.

kojima actually makes games, i can put up with long ridiculous cutscenes when there is an actual good game in between it.

>>714340862
Sarah mogs anyone kikemann and kojima has made

>>714335773 (OP)
the jew fears the samurai

>>714336553
Honestly, Naughty Dog's gameplay is better than anything Kojima has done in the last 20 years.

>>714336895
They are atrociously written though.
Good ideas are pointless if they're surrounded by nonsense brainrot and zero dimensional characters.

>>714336943
>Neither of them make movie games.
You're right.
They're interactive TV shows, not movies.

The amount of ironic kojima dick sucking in this thread is ridiculous, even for 4 chan.
"his games have good gameplay" being repeated by multiple people.... just unreal.

>>714345847
*we all know that we play Kojima games for the kojima brainrot, the stupid ideas he puts in. We play them just to see what absolutely ridiculous bullshit he's going to come up with next.
It never makes any sense, and the gameplay is always just barely serviceable and we keep pushing forward to see the next stupid idea he comes up with.

>>714335773 (OP)
Metal Gear Solid

>>714335773 (OP)
Kojima legit doesn't give a shit, Drukmann would have never in a million years done something like having the director of Ghost in the Shell give you a job to deliver a pizza to a vtuber. Like him or not Kojima is an auteur, Drukmann on the other hand is merely just copying existing art he knows because he's a programmer.

i like kojima's weirdness, it prepped me for watching david lynch films and i loved them

Kojima makes good games though

>>714335773 (OP)
I can only imagine you as a human being, who, if fully blindfolded and first made to lick a melted Snickers bar, and then literal fresh, steamy dogshit right after, would taste both and then say, "they both taste the same."

>>714335773 (OP)
>pretentious prick
>:/
>pretentious prick japan
>:o

>>714345650
This. Ask me to replay mgs5 or uncharted 4, it'll be a really easy choice.

>>714345650
Wrong. Ask me to replay mgs5 or uncharted 4, it'll be a really easy choice.

>>714345650
Kojima games are roughly two orders of magnitude better in gameplay than Naughty Dog

>>714335773 (OP)
I never understood why people compare these two. They’re nothing alike. Kojima is an innovator, Cuckman is just a hack who reinvented the wheel by making yet another generic “if you kill him you are le just as bad as him” story. There’s nothing unique or original about TLOU2, it’s literally just Uncharted but somehow even more boring. The gameplay is generic and uninspiring. The story is generic and uninspiring. The setting is generic and uninspiring. The characters are obnoxious and unlikable at best. There’s nothing to take away from TLOU2, it’s a milquetoast and unoriginal game through and through.
On the other hand, Death Stranding is a unique and wholly original experience. It basically takes modern game design and flips it on its head and somehow still makes it enjoyable. It handles subversive themes way better than TLOU2 could ever hope to. There’s simply no game like Death Stranding. The gameplay is unique and unconventional. The story is unique and unconventional. The setting is unique and unconventional. The characters are charming and silly. It’s not afraid to take risks and bring players out of their comfort zone. Kojima just doesn’t give a fuck, you either like his game or you don’t. He makes what he thinks is cool and doesn’t care what anybody else thinks. Cuckman is some retard with a fragile ego who thinks inserting a melodrama into a generic zombie apocalypse setting with combat taken straight out of Uncharted makes him some sort of pioneer.
Finally and most importantly of all, Death Stranding is a labor of love. TLOU2 is a labor of hatred. Kojima is a fan of movies and videogames, Cuckman is a fan only of himself.
Nigger

>>714335773 (OP)
Say whatever you want about Kojambles, but I'd take that nigga any day of the week on whatever autistic bullshit he is working on, over anything that is slightly related to that amerigolem faggot

>>714346419
>>714346707
hivemind

>>714337175
Good one Druckfaggot nigger, kys

>>714338067
Filtered nigger, git gud faggot

>>714348034
Ooooffff.... talk about being controversial for controversy's sake........

>>714338067
>he played with the alert slow-mos enabled
kek get a load of this fag

one kept putting in a woman with an exposed cleavage and the other multiple trannies

>>714335773 (OP)
Kojima makes good games.

Druck the cuck makes dog shit.

>>714335773 (OP)
Despite Kojima putting long cut scenes in his games, he tries to make his games fun. Druckman intentionally does the opposite as if he dislikes his audience.

/thread

>>714335773 (OP)
Because Cuckmann's "games" staple a mediocre plot to the most bland, cookie cutter gameplay imaginable.
A cover-based third-person over-the-shoulder shooter isn't gameplay, it's a concession to the fact that your chosen input device is total ass and needs a lot of handholding to feel somewhat natural (hence why these games will often try to trick you into thinking they're not playing themselves).
Kojima games may be pretentious, but at least a lot of them prior to the 2010s have solid ludo and metaludo to go with their kino.

>>714335773 (OP)
Druckman is racist incel who made a thinly veiled snuff about butchering women and minorities

>>714335773 (OP)
I don't give a fuck. Druckman is a soi boy cuck. But I will always love Kojima. /v/ likes to suck off his shittiest games like MGS 5, so I dont give a shit what /v/ says. I will always defend Kojima-dono's honor online. Death Stranding 2 is probably good, but I'm not getting a ps5

>>714335773 (OP)
Neil Druckmann is the personification of this.

>>714335773 (OP)
one is a whimsical Japanese and the other is a schizophrenic Jew (but I repeat myself) whose misanthropy bleeds into everything he makes

>>714337463
Cool it with the antisemitism

>>714339296
this.
For as much as people parade TLoU2 as some sort of high IQ game with original ideas, it’s made up of the most incredibly generic story elements you could piece together. Literally “Safe Edgy: The Game”. Meanwhile Death Stranding reads like a fever dream you had when you were 8 years old

>>714336819
>Unskippable cutscene
>Skippable gameplay
No, he makes movies

>>714337749
>doesn't reject fun

>>714335773 (OP)
>but one is greatly loved and the other greatly hated
>why
you tell me

>>714335773 (OP)
>>714336430
>>714336436
>>714336570
Kojima actually loves games and gamers and he especially loves his fans and have developed some sort of relationship literally spanning decades with his audience and tells them he loves them and they are not alone. What has Neil Jewmann done even remotely to that?

>>714349856
Abby is at minimum 30% neanderthal, lol

>>714349802
This is satisfying because you have to do so much to unlock this much convenience. This is bascially a victory lap.

>>714335773 (OP)
only retards like kojima after he ruined mgs

sadly there are tons of retards

>>714335773 (OP)
pretentious hack on the left
>wants feet
>wants anime youtuber

pretentious hack on the right
>goyim will eat my shit

>>714335773 (OP)
>but one is greatly loved and the other greatly hated
Only one of them made himself into a laughing stock by judging female video game characters by how they look and then calling himself a feminist.

And then TLOU2 sold worse than their remake of the first game. For whatever (many) faults I have with Kojima, he didn't make himself into a lolcow.

https://youtu.be/nHzMhReHYiE?si=C4cRBi1hvDqxL8qJ

>>714335773 (OP)
Kojima is a retard, druck is just an asshole
and retards are way more fun than assholes

>>714350102
So you engaged in a chore in order to skip it?

>>714336970
Yes

Kojima made Metal Gear Solid. Druckmann hasn't made anything I give a shit about. Its that simple.

>>714338067
>cutscene after cutscene
Every single time.
Always a dipshit who only watches clips and doesn't actually play games

>>714350228
>chore
Nah. You keep doing the basic walking and fighting the terrains, mules and bts to new areas. Having clear roads and vehicles is for maximizing strand connections to unlock extra rewards.

>>714349802
>another autist that cannot comprehend how another normal person would find playing a delivery simulator fun
Many such cases

>>714338002
>and the gameplay is very good
FUCK NO
The melee is homing attack cancer, the shooting has two kinds of aim-assist(one you can turn off so it's not as obvious and one you can't), the movement is janky as hell which coming from Jak and Daxter is fucking repulsive. How do you even go from some of the tightest, nicest controls in gaming, rivaling Mario 64 to something so unresponsive and janky? HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?
And don't even get me started on the AI that can't even walk through a fucking doorway AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FUCKING ZOMBIES. The Krimzon Guard were better at walking through doors than the fucking human AI in this piece of shit. NOT TO MENTION the god awful automation sequences
>but it's cinematic
No, you just don't want to admit that your "SUPER MATURE GAME FOR MATURE GAMERS LIKE ME" is copying Sonic the Hedgehog. AND DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THOSE ABOMINATIONS CALLED LADDERS AND PALLETES. Those sections put me to sleep.
So no, the gameplay is not "very good" it's worse than Bubsy 64. FUCK YOUR SHIT TASTE!
Never again will I be baited into thinking ND are good. They were good up until they finished Jak. Everything else is tedious or poorly made jank and not the fun kind.

>>714335773 (OP)
One is an auteur who knows what he wants and the other is a flake who has no actual vision, only one of them feels genuine being a retard and it's not the jew. If you want further proof look at sam lake who's also an auteur who knows he wants to do weird shit and does it, nobody dislikes him.

>>714335773 (OP)
kojima's work at least reaches for concepts like humanism, spirituality, connection, etc. fundamentally prosocial and positive ideals. and has possibly too much respect for his audience and their ability to think through complicated issues such as the double-edged sword that is technological progress, and its potential for both sublime beauty and control/destruction. he presents the state of the world as a problem to be navigated and overcome.
druckman's project is fundamentally cynical and subversive. he wants to deconstruct everything people have connected to re: gaming and reframe it as being toxic and evil. he aims to replace it with...i don't know, some master narrative of progress and inclusion that only alienates and chastises his player. he has no vision for a different future, and can only present the kind of demoralization and spiritual emptiness which leads to more misery and control by the masters he so obviously serves and identifies with

>>714350394
>hold triggers to balance
>use scanner and walk on safe areas
>repeat
>not a chore

>>714335773 (OP)
Abby or Sniper Wolf?
This thing or Quiet?

The Last of Us or Metal Gear Series?

That's why.

>>714349340
jews are misanthropic by nature so this argument is a bit redundant

>>714350750
>retard can't into cargo management and planning trips
unironically filtered

>>714350750
>autist surprised a delivery sim is a simulator
:O

>>714337463
have you considered looking in a mirror

>>714335773 (OP)
Wait until everyone finishes Death Stranding 2 and see that Kojima did a Druckmann by killing Fragile.

Or maybe I am the only one who have massively pissed off because of this shit, I don't know.

MGS is still the best stealth game out there

>>714351113
>Or maybe I am the only one who have massively pissed off because of this shit, I don't know.
I understand not liking that, but I'm not sure how that's pulling a Drukmann. With what the game sets up regarding the rules and the story, it makes sense, even if I wished things would have turned out differently for that character.

>>714351032
>walking with a different animation
It's way more fun now.

>>714335773 (OP)
https://youtu.be/DCcQ-HOhOXk?si=EhmTTeT60L6ltEdx

>>714340862
>leftist had shit taste in women
shocking

>>714335773 (OP)
Kojima isnt a kike
This isn't kojimbles fanboying, just a real fact.

>>714351397
I don't know, the whole trailer with the kiss and the very start of the game gives you the feeling that is the life Sam will have, a good wife on his side and a daughter... and seeing that go "poof" by the end was very dissapointing, almost like Kojima wanted to "subvert your expectations" like fag Druckmann loves doing.

Then again... I believe the few times Kojima baited any kind of romance in his games, things always ended up terribly for the ones involved so I guess that continues to be the case.

>>714351403
japanese walking simulator :0

>>714335773 (OP)
One is an autisitic goofball with a sense of humor and passion for his works and fans
The other is a subversive libtard california-jew who hates videogames and gamers

And more importantly, one made good games and the other hadn't

>>714335773 (OP)
Because Kojimbo makes GOOD VIDEO GAMES.

Next question, guy! Next question, guy!!!

We are protected from the worst of Kojima because he is Japanese and we can't understand him.

>>714335773 (OP)
Because Kojima knows that he's still making a video game, so he has the entire thing built around the mechanics of playing it. Also he puts silly things like having the ice cubes melt into puddles of water and forcing you to crawl through a really long microwave before revealing that you didn't need to do that at all because your little robot friend could pass through and press the button to turn it off.

Kojima has a fetish for hot women
Druckmann has a fetish for ugly women
Change the cast of DS2 with TLoU2 and public perception would be wildly different

>>714351942
I can understand that. I even agree that I would have loved to have seen that in the story. For Kojima's games, I don't think he doesn't ever want a "happily ever after" story without some sacrifice or heartache, even MGS1 where the looming threat of death with Foxdie is over Snake's head.

>>714352713
Yep, everything is bittersweet.

>>714335773 (OP)
When I play a Kojimbo game I feel genuine artistic vision, even if it's a mess. When I play a Druckmann game, I feel calculated "I will do this, this will make it an art" moves, not true artistry. It's hard to explain because it's just my subjective experience.

>>714335773 (OP)
Because mgs1 and 2 are good games.

I don't recall Kojima putting a contrived holocaust reference in his games.

>>714335773 (OP)
One embraces T&A and the other makes every character as ugly as possible. Hope that cleared things up for you.

Kojimbo is genuine. He's unironic with his creations. He embraces his fans and isn't ashamed of what he creates. Cuckmann is a fucking faggot who hates his fans, hates that they liked the first last of us game, and probably hates video games as a medium. He's not genuine in anything he makes except for in how he spites his fanbase. That's why Kojima is widely praised and loved and everyone fucking hates Cuckmann.

>>714335773 (OP)
>both make games
Incorrect. Kojima is the one who makes games.

Cuckmann in the red carpet.

>>714353469
Kojimbo in the red carpet.

>>714353469
>>714353532
Their smiles, or "smile" in cuckman's case, says it all

Because Kojima is literally /ourdev/.

>>714335773 (OP)
Kojima makes movie games that are actually interesting to watch, even if they are style over substance retarded clusterfucks of ideas.
Druckman makes basic bitch movie games that are no better than any summer flick. TLOU is a snore fest and the only good thing that came out of entire series were TLOU 2 memes.

>>714353469
This shit is so pathetic lmao

>>714353469
The sassy little elbow is so queeny.

>>714335773 (OP)
At least Kojima will "take it" if I say "I don't like your games" without calling me a sexist, fascist, bigot, gamer™ or chud

Story about a guy named Porter Bridges who is a porter and builds bridges and which has writing such as "Mario and princess Beach" is infinitely more entertaining than a "revenge is... bad!" story about psycho bull dykes.

>>714335773 (OP)
People meme about Kojima making movie games but its very clear that he does very much care about the interactivity of his games. There's loads of consideration put into them, he just also loves presenting his story with dialogue heavy scenes (unless you're MGSV lmao)