We don't talk about how incredible this run was, is this the best run in gaming history?

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>>714347697 (OP)
>Small budgets games with heaping amounts of cut content
>Somehow more fully realized and in depth than mainline FF from the same era
How does this work?

>>714347697 (OP)
Vagrant Story really isn't that great.

>>714347697 (OP)
Include FF12 as well. That’s a Matsuno creation in spirit.

>>714351102
FF12 is godawful

>>714348704
Care to elaborate?

>>714347697 (OP)
>is this the best run in gaming history?
No, you dumb fucking chigyu.

>>714347697 (OP)
I just played Vagrant Stoey for the first time, kinda crazy how it beat Paper fucking Mario to the punch with offensive and defensive timed hits. Awesome game let down by a horrible UI and inventory management.

>>714353846

>>714347697 (OP)
VS is his only good game and even it is a maddeningly flawed experience that alienates 90% of those who play it.

>>714351102
>That’s a Matsuno creation in spirit.
He barely had anything to do with it.
He was on the team for less than 12 months and then left.
They had to get someone else in to take over after he left, and almost none of what he was trying to do was properly finished.

The end result is such a mess that even Sakaguchi himself refused to play it for longer than about an hour.

>>714355919
*I just wish Matsuno could have finished what he started with that game.
Coz his spirit is definitely in there somewhere

>>714355417
Bait

Vagrant Story would've worked better as fantasy MGS, the weird parasite eve-esque system felt like shit.

>>714353846
It's a mess in the later game; hard and unforgiving. Not really a challenge, more like a drag.
Might as well just watch the cutscenes on YouTube

>>714355919
It was the Vagrant Story team thoughbeit; not Mitsuno directly, but the game has his fingerprints all over.

>>714347697 (OP)
All were scored by Hitoshi Sakimoto
Coincidence? I think not

>>714347937
I never played tactics ogre. is it worth actually playing? I know they butchered it in the remake, but does the original actually hold up?

>>714347697 (OP)
I think FF4-FF9 (or 10) was far more impressive than this.

>>714354354
not only did paper mario come out before vagrant story, but smrpg came out before both and had the same mechanics you tard.

>>714357636
>its hard and unforgiving
wasnt my experience at all, the game got way too easy the farther I got. sounds like you had no idea what youre doing, or refused to craft better weapons and armor (most fun part of the game). either way skill issue.

>>714347697 (OP)
vagrant story is the only good game here but its an 11/10 and a massive pleb filter (spoiler alert just RTFM its literally baked into the main menu)

kitase directed chrono trigger, ffvi, ffvii, ffviii and ffx back to back. thats the real greatest streak.

>>714355919
Sakaguchi is addicted to playing FF14 I don't trust his opinion on games

>>714358172
Vagrant Story released in every territory before Paper Mario dipshit. I did forget about blocking in SMRPG tho my b

>>714358035
If you like class based tactics games yeah it's great. I didn't play enough of the remake to be able to say

>>714358478
Sakaguchi was great in his prime but that was a long time ago, pre mistwalker

>>714357275
why wasn't it turn based, the levels are literally built like FFTA maps

>>714353846
the ghost enemies kicked my ass

>>714359085
just use magic and they go down easy.

>>714359085
Helps to have a high INT build which is usually leather armor. Man this game would be ludicrous 10/10 fun if I could hotswap between weapons and armor

>>714353846
It looks and sounds better than most modern games, but it's not fun to play as designed. You spend far too much time navigating slow menus, and it rewards tedious/grindy behavior with the crafting and affinity systems. It's only fun if you go for a maximum risk chaining meme build.

>>714357636
What >>714358260 said. Clear skill issue since you can easily kill the late game elemental bosses in a few hits or invalidate all magic attacks by applying the right buffs and debuffs.

>>714358035
It is a masterpiece, on par with FFT.
Some say it is even better

>>714364419
Who the fuck needs to grind in VS when the game doesnt even have a proper leveling system? Are you one of those suckers that pummeled those statues for type affinities? Its only there for retards.

>>714366410
I didn't use the training dummies much but the point is they're bad design. Games shouldn't reward boring play.

>>714348704
Word. I only used daggers and I couldn't beat the last boss because it was a flying monster on a platform. Daggers couldn't reach and my last save was after the dungeon entrance or something. I had to start over to beat the game

>>714367017
You can win with defense only. Stand in the very center of the arena and he'll only use Apocalypse and Bloody Sin (after taking enough damage). These can be reflected with Reflect Magic and Reflect Damage respectively.

>>714367636
I was 12 back then and there was barely any online resources. Couldn't figure out the answer on gamefaqs so just started over since my time was worth nothing back then kek

>>714347697 (OP)

>Vagrant Story

Still the best thing he ever made other than Tactics and FFXII.

>>714366863
Grinding is a last resort in VS as much as it is in any other RPG. Youre not encouraged to do it because its repetitive and inefficient in terms of progression. By that logic every RPG sucks for "rewarding" you with EXP for grinding, but the intended way is for you to progress the game is to exploit enemy weaknesses with the tools you already have, of which VS gives you more than enough so that you are never forced to resort to grinding.

>>714367017
Did you literally have nothing in your inventory other than daggers? Im fairly certain thats a skill issue.

>>714351102
Based

>>714347697 (OP)
Only TO is good and only if you accept that the overall balancing is dogshit.
VS in particular is an unfinished turd barely saved by ridiculously good graphics, Crimson Shroud is the only Matsuno game that is actually somewhat well designed.

>>714368494
>every RPG sucks for "rewarding" you with EXP for grinding
The best RPGs have finite supplies of experience. Chrono Cross gets it right.

>>714347697 (OP)
Vagrant Story was proto-FFXV. Why do retards jerk off this shitty moviegame so much.

>>714347697 (OP)
I wish the translation work for Vagrant Story had become the norm instead of the zoomer memes and current days issues and Twitter addicts crap.
I also think the speech bubbles worked really great and should have been used more often, it's still better than most voice acting with the proper camera angles and script. VS cutscenes were so good.