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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:26:41 PM No.714369347
Elden Ring Grr martin
Elden Ring Grr martin
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So, what was Martin's contribution to ER?
Because story and world building were somehow even worse than das and das3 ones
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:28:11 PM No.714369449
Every character starts with the letters G R R M
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:28:46 PM No.714369483
>>714369449
Grrim
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:29:35 PM No.714369529
>>714369347 (OP)
>a souls game with a story written by a YA slop writer
Please fucking God no.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:29:37 PM No.714369532
>>714369347 (OP)
>story and world building were somehow even worse than das and das3 ones
elaborate on that
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:30:34 PM No.714369585
Same thing different name
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:30:59 PM No.714369608
>>714369532
Fatman's worldbuilding has always sucked ass, he can only write characters
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:31:42 PM No.714369660
>>714369347 (OP)
>So, what was Martin's contribution to ER?
Literally 1 A4 page of character names and a line of backstory.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:32:58 PM No.714369720
>>714369449
>Godefroy
>Godfrey
>Godrick
>Godwyn
>Gurranq
>Radagon
>Ralva
>Ranni
>Rellana
>Roderika
>Rya
>Rykard
>Magnus
>Maleigh
>Malenia
>Maliketh
>Margit
>Melina
>Messmer
>Metry
>Midra
>Millicent
>Miquella
>Miranda
>Mohg
>Morgott
>Moongrum
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:34:15 PM No.714369793
>>714369347 (OP)
He scribbled the very basic premise of "a medieval fantasy world where everything goes to shit and there's a bunch of gods all from the same family fighting for control" on a used napkin and handed it over to Mitsubushi san
His """""involvement""""" was a publicity thing and nothing more
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:35:32 PM No.714369869
>>714369608
>suck
Yeah as expected /v/irgin has nothing to say
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:36:50 PM No.714369953
>>714369869
It's a bootleg knockoff of real history with a gay faggot dragon land added on top, it's fucking dogshit
Also
>Westeros
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:38:55 PM No.714370089
https://youtu.be/-2TCm-0ApVw?t=136
DON'T WORRY ELDEN RING IS COMING
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:40:24 PM No.714370160
>>714369449
And Dung Eater?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:41:01 PM No.714370198
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>>714369347 (OP)
Dialogue like "Marika's Tits!" and D's brother threatening to shove you headfirst deep inside Fia's pussy were very George style lines.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:41:55 PM No.714370258
>>714370198
>D's brother threatening to shove you headfirst deep inside Fia's pussy
Literally never seen that
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:42:36 PM No.714370302
>>714369532
Most of characters are zombies for no reason at all
There no reason for Marika to seal entrance if she wanted someone to kill alien slop, and if she wanted successor then there was no reason to force you burn the tree in the first place
Morgot is simp of Maria's will, and yet he doesn't care about roots sealing entrance and doesn't travel himself to burn the tree
Vyke item description days that maidens were destined to did to burn tree, despite being bestowed to tarnished by two fingers, dudes who have no reason to do it.
Ranni being schizo and sending dragon after you at the end of her quest
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:44:29 PM No.714370423
>>714370258
https://youtu.be/9L65TnnUPS4?si=AFOmtmXSKzya0xRg&t=206

You have to attack him after Fia's questline is done.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:46:04 PM No.714370526
>>714369953
>It's a bootleg knockoff of real history with a gay faggot dragon land added on top
That's basically all of fantasy
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:46:08 PM No.714370534
>>714369347 (OP)
He wrote the lore for the world before it went to shit. From then extrapolated everything from that.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:46:08 PM No.714370535
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>>714369347 (OP)
>influence

But does anyone actually believes he did more than sell his name in exchange for a fat jap check?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:50:23 PM No.714370797
>>714370302
>There no reason for Marika to seal entrance if she wanted someone to kill alien slop
Thing is it's not Marika that guides the tarnished. It's all Metyr and her two fingers. All Marika did was pointless. She and everyone else involved were under the assumption there is some god controlling it from behind the curtain. In reality the god abandoned his creation for a unexplained reason before even Marika was born. The fingers were trying to stabilize reality but all that failed because free will and all that.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:51:32 PM No.714370887
>>714370534
>before it went to shit
The world or the lore?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:52:21 PM No.714370941
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>>714369347 (OP)
It's coming
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:53:27 PM No.714371010
>>714370887
The world. All that Rauh, Hornsent and Golden Order lore is Martin. The shattering and it's consequences is From.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:55:21 PM No.714371143
>>714370302
your headcanon is even more retarded than what actually happens in the lands between.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:55:58 PM No.714371192
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>>714370302
>Most of characters are zombies for no reason at all
Zombies in Elden Ring are Zombies. The "undead" nobles are not undead, they're just shriveled husks because they can't die but they're too weak or insane to find food and eat. All the castles, fortresses and most camping sites have food supplies like potatoes and chicken. Erdtree fully resurrects people it blesses, Tarnished are not undead like TWLD or ghosts are.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:56:40 PM No.714371232
>>714369347 (OP)
The more she drank the more she shat
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:58:32 PM No.714371353
>>714369347 (OP)
>So, what was Martin's contribution to ER?
He was probably just some consultant. Like they send him bits of lore and he made some suggestions.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:58:54 PM No.714371369
>>714369347 (OP)
It was entirely so they could put GRRM's name on adverts for hype. Fromsoft took what he wrote and then just put a Dark Souls filter over everything rendering the actual storywriting contribution pointless.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:00:29 PM No.714371480
>>714371192
Bandits are zombies according to patches and yet their cave is full of food...
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:00:48 PM No.714371506
Albigensian
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>>714371353
Have to wonder if the whole Albinauric Village thing was his idea, because he likes to reference european real history events a lot and Albinaurics are an obvious reference to Catars aka Albigensians. They were massacred and burned at the stake when Vatican declared a crusade against them.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:01:47 PM No.714371562
>>714370302
>Most of characters are zombies for no reason at all
Miyazaki literally cannot imagine a game where people haven't gone insane prease understandu
Also it saves up on time and money, why bother trying to make the world seem real and lived in when you can just say that everything got fucked like Dark Souls?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:02:02 PM No.714371579
>>714369347 (OP)
>The Brandon Sanderson dream lives on
They literally already announced that they were going to collaborate with BrandoSando on a future game. Where's this Iain Harris been living? Under a rock?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:02:07 PM No.714371590
>>714370302
>Morgot is simp of Maria's will, and yet he doesn't care about roots sealing entrance and doesn't travel himself to burn the tree
Morgot is a golden order fundamentalist. He would never even think about burning the Erdtree. He would greatly benefit from contacting Goldmask. Problem is Goldmask is guided by grace AND is a fundamentalist too, And that means he believes in the total eradication of the demigods as ordained by grace. Morgot never had a chance.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:02:26 PM No.714371615
>>714369347 (OP)
From his own description, GRRM envisioned a medieval fantasy setting similar to something like LOTR set around the martial contest of the shattering of the 'Elden Ring', and the runes that bestowed a degree of power to the Shardbearers and their respective factions. He probably substantiated at an elementary level the history, lineages, and areas of the setting, establishing the characters, their relationships, and their motives. This likely includes the names of the major players, Radahn, Malenia, Marika, Radagon, Rennala etc. and possibly even extends to DLC characters like Messmer.
In turn, From interpreted and transformed this information to create the warped, macabre, and grotesque environments and characters familiar in the game, which bear many of the design tropes that defined their previous games. Giant proliferating blue crystals being associated with magic, great ancient evil snakes, an undying populace of languishing nobles and knights so bereft of purpose and sense they now resemble zombies, primordial draconic gods, thunder being associated with piety to the orthodox faith.
It's debateable whether the underlying cosmogeny of Elden Ring, aspects of the game such as the Greater Will, Frenzy Flame, embedded titanic giants, the nature of the Primordial crucible and its associated sacrificial rituals etc. were devised by Martin or added later by Miyazaki, or perverted to such a degree that they no longer bear any similarity to Martin's original contributions. It's often suggested that the Two-Fingers for example may have simply been a title referring to shadowy human agents, rather than the parasitical fungal hive-mind that we now know is overseen by a schizophrenic falling star abomination from time immemorial.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:02:29 PM No.714371623
a soulslike setting written by Glen Cook could be cool
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:03:12 PM No.714371667
Zombie
Zombie
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>>714371480
When did he say that? I recall him just calling them his crew, bunch of aimless man-at-arms that he gave a new purpose. Lands Between has like 10 different species of proper zombies that look and act like zombies.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:03:54 PM No.714371710
>>714369529
You do know that every time one of you weirdos say something like this, you expose yourself to literally everyone as being completely ignorant, right?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:03:56 PM No.714371715
>>714371353
>"Now Miyazaki san i don't know why you're so insistent on Marika having to be barefoot but i won't question your decision"
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:04:43 PM No.714371765
>>714369347 (OP)
>So, what was Martin's contribution to ER?
nothing.
he was namedropped for the reveal and then his involvement was memoryholed. GRRM forgot about it until the game sold like crazy, getting media attention.
He whined "why am i getting no credit? i wrote... well, i helped wri-... well i assiste-... I was on the mailing list for the story team.", and so articles like this have trickled out.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:05:19 PM No.714371807
>>714370302
>Most of characters are zombies for no reason at all
They're 'zombies' because From had no intention of designing a populated world with towns and NPC's and any of that gay ubisoft shit
Every From game other than Sekiro is just the main character being a warrior-janny cleaning up the apocalyptic mess, and they're all the better for it
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:05:22 PM No.714371813
>>714371667
nta but
>Yeah, I had those bandits make a clean break. Now they're all suppliers, and good ones at that. I mean, they don't understand a word I'm saying, but it hardly matters, we have a natural connection. They're all foot soldiers. Survivors of a defeated army. Worked to the bone by their high-and-mighty lord, only to be thrown out with the rubbish. ...It's the same old story, everywhere I go. Ah, to hell with it all.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:05:58 PM No.714371853
>>714371710
Nobody cares about your shitty YA novels man, go back to /lit/ or, more accurately, Reddit
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:06:13 PM No.714371870
>>714369608
>Fatman's writing has always sucked ass, he can only write
That's how stupid you sound, by the way.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:06:26 PM No.714371878
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>>714370302
>There no reason for Marika to seal entrance
Who said she sealed it? Could've been Radagon who did it. Radagon is trying to fix what Marika broke. Could've also been Elden Beast itself directly sealing the tree.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:06:36 PM No.714371886
>>714371807
Funny enough the only towns in ER are in the DLC. All of them burned by Messmer but they exist. Outside of that the Lands Between are just castles and one city.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:07:02 PM No.714371912
>>714371870
Cooking up an entire world's history and writing dialogue between characters is a completely different skill
You'd know this if you weren't a subhuman nigger
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:07:29 PM No.714371950
>>714371853
>doesn't even dispute accusation of ignorance
>deflects like a pansy
Thought so.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:07:30 PM No.714371951
>>714371813
Yeah nowhere there does it mention they're undead. Just means they're ex-soldiers who were abandoned by their lord.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:07:35 PM No.714371959
>>714371870
why so asshurt? worldbuilding is leagues different from dialogue and personal motivations
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:07:36 PM No.714371964
>>714371878
It was the Elden Beast. It realized that the fingers and Metry sentenced it to death to create a new order.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:08:17 PM No.714372000
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The Souls fandom needs this more than you think.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:08:32 PM No.714372024
>>714371878
Shouldn't it be in elden beast best interests to not give retards ideas about burning elden tree?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:09:42 PM No.714372106
>>714371912
It's okay, anon. You're allowed to have your wrong opinion. No need to lash out like a child.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:09:42 PM No.714372108
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>>714371886
>the only towns in ER are in the DLC.
What. Plenty of villages in Elden Ring.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:09:56 PM No.714372123
>mfw there are ten times more graves, tombstones, catacombs and graveyards than houses in the game
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:10:15 PM No.714372141
>>714372024
The Erdtree doesn't matter outside the religious meaning. It's just a symbol of this age.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:10:30 PM No.714372158
>>714370160
His real name is Mike.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:10:53 PM No.714372180
>>714372106
>subhuman nigger acts like a passive aggressive subhuman nigger
Who would've thought?
Everyone can tell you don't know shit about writing
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:11:17 PM No.714372209
>>714372024
Radagon and Elden Beast had an interest to fix things back to the way it was. They had no interest in having a new Elden Lord taking the throne.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:11:47 PM No.714372254
>>714371710
Holy shit get over yourself retard. Brandon Sanderson isn't bottom tier popular mindless slop. It's isn't literature and you aren't cool for liking it
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:12:29 PM No.714372314
MITSUBISHI SAN
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:12:53 PM No.714372349
>>714372108
raya lucaria is surrounded by a half-sunken city
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:12:56 PM No.714372357
>>714369347 (OP)
georges influence was the dung eater only
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:12:57 PM No.714372361
>>714372000
The story would somehow be even worse than normal BUT it would also expunge all of the trannies and evil leftists from the community in one fell swoop so honestly i agree
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:14:00 PM No.714372440
>>714372180
That's right, little buddy. Get it all out.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:14:42 PM No.714372502
>>714369347 (OP)
>Because story and world building were somehow even worse than das and das3 ones
How retarded you must be to think that?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:14:44 PM No.714372504
>>714372349
Why is it sunken when the gazebos clearly show the water didn't rise and ground didn't destabilize.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:15:33 PM No.714372558
>>714371870
This is like thinking that someone who only draws landscapes would be a master at drawing human anatomy, you're retarded and probably black
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:15:42 PM No.714372570
>>714372254
Are you okay, anon? Looks like you had a bit of a stroke when typing that up. You don't seem to have formed a coherent thought with that post.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:16:09 PM No.714372596
>>714370302
You are a massive retard
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:16:21 PM No.714372617
>>714372504
the gazebos were small enough to repeatedly lift out and reseat while the larger buildings slowly sank
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:16:34 PM No.714372635
Sanderson is JK Rowling for post 2016 leftists
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:16:37 PM No.714372638
>>714370160
That's his self insert
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:16:39 PM No.714372643
>>714372123
This.
The only thing I want out of a game is a fifteen mile long suburb filled with nothing but irrelevant goons and impossibly vast stretches of realistically empty agricultural land with nothing to do but kill cows
Why even play games if they're not realistic, fully-fleshed out, logically sized open world environments with actual tax-offices and toilets
This is why I only play MS Flight Simulator
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:17:11 PM No.714372681
Heolstor
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So is this guy the Elden Rings player character, or some dude who dethroned the player character sometime in the future? He's got the full rune inside his belly.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:17:27 PM No.714372698
>>714372180
i was on your side until you responded to that post.
come on, anon. recognize when someone clearly doesn't care and is just seeking to bring you to emotion.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:17:37 PM No.714372710
>>714372617
That doesn't make sense because the bridge foundations are also on the same level.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:17:41 PM No.714372721
>>714372123
>the only lived in settlement in the game was added post release
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:17:43 PM No.714372729
Maliketh-the-black-blade-boss-elden-ring-wiki-guide
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>>714370302
>Every single sentence you is wrong
>Somehow you didn't understand a single thing about the game
Elden Ring remains an IQ filter in 2025
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:18:15 PM No.714372759
>>714369347 (OP)
They should collaborate with JK Rowling next!
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:18:22 PM No.714372764
>>714369347 (OP)
>story and world building were somehow even worse than das and das3 ones
Elden Ring easily has the best worldbuilding, characters, and 'story' From have ever put out. It's leagues above Dark Souls.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:18:46 PM No.714372793
>>714372681
He was some random fodder soldier who got so fucking mad he cursed the whole world
The reason he has the rune inside him is because Marika was swallowed and killed by the night alongside everyone else
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:18:50 PM No.714372796
>>714372504
those are babies that died before their bells could grow
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:18:56 PM No.714372812
>>714372681
He's some loser that was constantly beaten up and ended up in Limveld where he was possessed by the Nightlords power.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:20:41 PM No.714372936
>>714372710
bridges are lighter than air like dirigibles
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:21:10 PM No.714372971
Griffith smirk
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>>714370302
>Most of characters are zombies for no reason at all
Wrong, they are husks that die and return in their bodies
>There no reason for Marika to seal entrance if she wanted someone to kill alien slop
Because that's not the story at all, and Marika brings back the form of the Elden Beast with the Law of Regression. In fact, Marika seals the entrance to force the Tarnished to seek Destined Death, betraying Maliketh
Not even reading the rest because you are incredibly retarded
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:21:29 PM No.714372986
>>714372764
>Elden Ring easily has the best worldbuilding, characters, and 'story' From have ever put out.
Yo meant to say Sekiro.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:21:30 PM No.714372987
>>714372764
Explain Ranni and her motivation at giving you magical dogs at the start under gay pseudonym
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:22:53 PM No.714373104
>>714372971
And Marika told beastman to forge the weapon that can kill alien slop god, because...
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:24:07 PM No.714373195
>>714372681
i'd like to thing its another wylder, they have very similar backstories except the player character wylder just LIVES while that guy just says fuck it and curses everything
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:24:59 PM No.714373249
>>714370423
>I'll grind your corpse into that vile wench's rotten remains.
>A witch's eternal embrace, just as you wished!
Yeah, that's totally some flowery way of saying he's going to shove your head into Fia's cunt.
Coom brained fucking midwit.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:25:19 PM No.714373268
>>714373104
Marika was a retard that thought the greater will actually ever cared or was present at all. GW fucked off long ago. Marika was wrong in everything he did ever since she was born. The hornsent were always right. Personal cultivation and not a central god figure is the way to go.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:25:51 PM No.714373302
>>714372987
She knew Torrent's former owner so she felt like helping you out
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:26:19 PM No.714373338
>>714373249
Dude calls Fia a rotten whore beforehand. At least play the game first before you open your dumb nigger mouth.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:26:25 PM No.714373345
>>714373104
Marika told the Misbegotten to forge a weapon to shatter the Elden Ring. Marika's hammer was forged in the Roundtable Hold, which was confirmed to a place outside of the Lands Between by Miyazaki
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:26:27 PM No.714373349
>>714369347 (OP)
The backstory and some of the characters are heavily based on Western culture in a way that it definitely otherwise wouldn't have been if a guy like GRRM wasn't involved.
GRRM clearly did a good amount of research into religion when putting in his side of the work, because characters like Marika and Radagon represent Western alchemical concepts directly, while those like Goldmask reflect specific ancient Western religious figures (in his case the Greek Stoics and Platonists).
Most From games deal with religion via being Shintoism with the aesthetics of Catholicism, where Elden Ring is more authentically Western in its spirituality and expression of religiosity. Which does have a noticeable affect.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:27:35 PM No.714373437
>>714373338
D will insult anyone that isn't following the golden order 100% of the time.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:28:21 PM No.714373487
>>714373195
>except the player character wylder just LIVES
Nobody tell him
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:28:24 PM No.714373496
>>714372987
you picked one of the few things ranni is straight about in the entire game for your gotcha? it was entrusted to her by torrent's previous owner and she's giving it to torrent's current owner. that's it. she's operating under a pseudonym because she's currently in the middle of a grand conspiracy to overthrow the current order.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:29:20 PM No.714373573
>>714370302
Marika didn't seal the tree. Radagon did. They oppose each other and Radagon was making sure that nothing changed for as long as possible.
And regardless, she wanted the Erdtree burnt to the ground, most likely. As she leads us to the Giant's Flame with Grace. She wanted to go scorched earth against the Golden Order, including destroying its most important symbol and sign of her subjugation.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:29:22 PM No.714373576
>>714373195
Anon... did you not see the hidden Wylder ending?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:30:21 PM No.714373659
>>714373268
The hornsent were retarded self-sacrificial celebrants of the lamest Crucible aspect. They let their horns grow wild and free until they gnarled into their own eyes and blinded them to Marika's brilliant little scheme to outjew them. At least the dragon communion disciples tried vainly to be cool dragons and not grotesque hideous abominations.
The truest and most unassailable chads of Elden Ring are the Frog Albinaurics, the rightful heirs of the Lands Between.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:30:23 PM No.714373664
>>714373573
>As she leads us to the Giant's Flame with Grace.
Marika has no control over grace. It was always the gift of the two fingers.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:30:38 PM No.714373673
>>714373487
>>714373576
i know i've done everything with him, he's lived a lot longer than he had any right too thats why he has that passive
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:32:47 PM No.714373839
>>714373338
Calling a woman a rotten whore is just as bad as saying he's going to shove you head first into her dead cunt.
Your brain is rotted by porn.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:32:49 PM No.714373845
>>714373104
>beastman
Retard, actual subhuman
Replies: >>714374562
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:33:45 PM No.714373909
>>714373664
The Fingers don't give Grace.
Even when they go retarded because we get farther than they ever thought, we'd see Grace and it leads us places that Marika would want us to go.
The same goes for how Grace leads characters like Godfrey, that Marika was clearly conspiring with before even the Shattering.
Grace is Marika's thing. The Fingers use the Crones to guide people.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:34:10 PM No.714373943
>>714372764
There’s better writing but the aesthetic and atmosphere is a lot worse. Also opts for the same ‘everything is undead and every major lore figure you interact with must fight you to the death’ which is boring
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:34:45 PM No.714373987
Radagon is just a cover for Messmer given flesh and form by Marika
Every one of Radagon's conquests and feats were actually performed by Messmer in antiquity prior to Messmer's banishment from the annals of history and consignment into the shadowlands
Marika created the persona of Radagon as a means to immortalise Messmer's place in history as a paragon of virtue, obscuring the primordial base serpent and giant's flame, symbols anathema of the Erdtree, that fuelled his power
Miriel tells you all of this if you take Messmer's kindling to him prior to burning the sealing tree
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:35:30 PM No.714374048
>>714373659
Funny because the Erdtree is fed souls to work. Marikas ascension was feed on souls. The golden order dogma favors physically blinding yourself to the real world. Hornsent worked to create a ascended being while Marika just singed a deal with aliens for more power. Hornsent were right in everything. Marika even reuses their symbols(spiral erdtree symbols are all around the game) because they hold real power without needing a god behind it.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:36:47 PM No.714374126
>>714373987
So Marika fucked an idealised version of her son
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:37:37 PM No.714374191
>>714369347 (OP)
>So, what was Martin's contribution to ER?
Story and world building.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:37:49 PM No.714374205
>>714369347 (OP)
he named every character and wrote a bare bones backstory for events that happened 5000 years before the events the game
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:38:41 PM No.714374280
>>714373909
My dude. All Tranished are guided by grace to their FINGER MAIDENS that can interpret the words of the Two Fingers. (You) need a crone because you are a maidenless looser that only sees the grace but doesn't understand it's guidance. This would have been more obvious if they didn't remove the alternate finger maiden you could have if you rejected Melina.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:38:52 PM No.714374303
>>714372504
They used to be towers.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:39:10 PM No.714374328
>>714374126
Yes, I hadn't even thought of that part, it fits Marika's character as a complete psycho bitch even better
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:40:44 PM No.714374460
>>714373496
So, it's in Ranni's character to selflessly going out of her way and give people random shit, while also being paranoid fuck who hides, got it
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:41:04 PM No.714374494
>>714373496
>grand conspiracy
>spends 1000 years sitting in a ruin with her pet pitbull, a rapist, and a senile troll doing nothing
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:41:44 PM No.714374562
>>714373845
His race literally called beastmen of dragon shithole...
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:41:49 PM No.714374569
>>714373659
At least try to know what the fuck you are talking about, lorelet retard.
The Hornsent have no saying on growing horns. It's a direct effect of the exposition of a foreign tribe to Crucible currents, which they see as sign of divine ascension. The Lamenters start to grow the visage of the Fell God in their backs because of their communion with the Crucible, which they fear so much that Messmer's army etched the Fell God of Sun in the Furnace Golem, but with horns instead of sunflower petals. The Hornsent carry over the culture and religion of the preceding Helphen realm down to the same imagery and glorification of Beasts, with barbs as only variation.

The Dragon Communion is not a religion and has no faith, trasmutates all those who partake in such rituals of their own volition until they will be taken over
>>714373268
Lorelet
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:42:50 PM No.714374640
1688485670465657
1688485670465657
md5: 97598fa1cd4e910ea841df7595537d92🔍
>>714373349
>while those like Goldmask reflect specific ancient Western religious figures (in his case the Greek Stoics and Platonists).
Or just Martin Luther. Goldmasks conclusion that it corrupt Gods were a problem for the religion is awfully close to Luther condemning the corrupt Vatican and preaching christian fundamentalism instead.
>>714373839
>"Look at this rotten whore, no more children can be got from this useless flesh!"
>"Your mother is dead!"
>"I'll GRIND your corpse INTO that vile WENCH's (aka prostitute) remains."
>"A witch's eternal embrace, just as you wished."
What else could that mean but him suggesting he's going to kill you, then stick your carcass inside her? Now which way would he stick you inside her, especially when he keeps calling her a whore?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:42:50 PM No.714374642
>>714374562
Retard. Subhuman.
>>714373987
Nice fanfiction
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:43:09 PM No.714374669
redline
redline
md5: e86875cb465dbdf746766628522b719d🔍
are there any good western writers?
i want fromsoft to make a western game
YEHAAW
Replies: >>714374853 >>714374883
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:43:15 PM No.714374676
>>714371870
World building and character writing are in fact different skills, you mouthbreather.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:43:18 PM No.714374682
>>714374569
The headcanon guy is here. Get ready for some schizo shit guys.
Replies: >>714374805 >>714375548
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:43:22 PM No.714374686
>>714369347 (OP)
>So, what was Martin's contribution to ER?
Detailed descriptions of Malenia's bowel movements.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:44:42 PM No.714374805
>>714374682
I can always tell when he starts posting because it's an actually well informed post that makes sense out of the lore, and makes you seethe
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:45:19 PM No.714374853
>>714374669
Ursula Le Guin. Amazing writer, not for chuddies tho.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:45:47 PM No.714374883
>>714374669
>are there any good western writers?
They actually got the only good scifi writer alive today (Peter Wattz) to write for the Armored Core secret lvl episode, but then they asked him to change pretty much everything about his initial draft.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:45:49 PM No.714374886
>>714374460
she went out of her way to do that just to honor torrent's former master. it's a part of her character that she's very loyal to the people she cares about. see blaidd, her literal jungian shadow.

>>714374494
yes this isn't complicated.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:46:42 PM No.714374958
>>714374640
>What else could that mean
Exactly what he said, retard. He's not sexualizing shit, he's going to grind your corpse into hers. It's violence, not sexual. You just assume because she's a whore that anything you do her is sexual, because porn has destroyed your ability to discern reality.
Go goon somewhere else, deviant scum.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:46:45 PM No.714374967
>>714374642
>game lies to you, this the only excuse I can came up with
Lmao, pathetic
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:46:48 PM No.714374971
>>714374280
The Finger Maidens do channel runes and most are part of the cult of the Fingers and usually seek out a strong Tarnished to pair with, but we the player do not have a Finger Maiden (ours was probably dead back in the Anticipation Chapel) and we're still guided by Grace until Melina stole the show.
The Crones are the way that the Fingers tell us to move around the world and do stuff. Even leading us against other Tarnished like Gideon when that is better for them.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:47:59 PM No.714375064
>>714374048
>Funny because the Erdtree is fed souls to work
The Erdtree is not fed anything. It was created with the deaths of Enir-Ilim, but not in the way you are headcanoning
>>714374967
Retard, subhuman
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:48:31 PM No.714375116
>>714374280
>The PC gets shit on for being maidenless
NONE of the other grace guided Tarnished had Maidens
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:48:34 PM No.714375121
>>714374886
>she's very loyal to the people she cares about. see blaidd, her literal jungian shadow.
She literally send her black knife agents to kill him, the second he proved to be a threat
At the end of her quest line, she orders her dragon to assassinate you, and magically forces him to fight until death
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:48:59 PM No.714375156
retard
retard
md5: 6f662e4b3e7341a48d6bcff4234642e7🔍
>>714374958
>Whore and wench is not a sexual term!
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:50:08 PM No.714375269
>>714375156
Holy fucking ESL.
>I'm going to murder you, whore!
Does that mean he's going to fuck the corpse?
Go be brown somewhere else, gooner.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:50:28 PM No.714375296
>>714374971
If Marika was giving out grace then the Tarnished wouldn't have risen 5000 years after the world was destroyed. But if you take into the account that the Two Finger take millennia to make a decision it all makes sense then.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:51:12 PM No.714375370
>>714369347 (OP)
THE LOATHESOME DUNG EATER
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:51:20 PM No.714375389
>>714374640
I see Goldmask as almost a direct reference to Plato, who spent a large portion of his life arguing that traditional Greek religion was almost 'bad', and had to be reformed to become 'good'.
He thought that stories like the Iliad or Hesiod's stories about the Gods fucking and fighting, were all the wrong way to write about religion and everything needed to be overturned and perhaps even censored, so the stories would simply teach good civics to children and lower citizens.
Plato similarly wanted to logic his way through understanding the universe and divinity and pioneered the idea that most stories about Gods were just metaphors for logical natural processes that people didn't understand and the Gods were the same.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:52:08 PM No.714375451
Retardedjeet
Retardedjeet
md5: b50e9b75ef27e3566ae807b1b2334453🔍
>>714374958
>He's not sexualizing shit,
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:52:26 PM No.714375481
>>714375121
you're retarded then got it.
Replies: >>714376142
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:52:49 PM No.714375513
>>714375116
Wrong. Bernhal has/had a maiden that guided him. If she wasn't cut you would have been the reason she lost her in the first place.Gideon also must have a maiden. We don't seen her because finger maiden can't enter the Roundtable. But Gideon is clearly guided by grace.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:53:11 PM No.714375542
>>714374048
The Erdtree grew and withered independently of being used to reincarnate people.
People were being buried at its roots all the way up to the Shattering, long after item descriptions tell use the Erdtree started to lose some of its power and luster.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:53:15 PM No.714375548
literally the same face of the Fire Monk set
literally the same face of the Fire Monk set
md5: 3cf5da71e316e34f1f374c28a6594004🔍
>>714374682
Every time you call him schizo I check what he wrote and he is correct. Looks like you are the schizo
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:53:29 PM No.714375569
>>714375451
Jesus Christ. Yes. He called her a whore. She in fact IS a whore, that's what a deathsbed companion actually is.
At no point does he imply that he is going to shove your head up her cunt.
Grinding your corpse into hers just implies he's going to violently murder you and desecrate your corpses. It's not some rapey fantasy you're having, gooner.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:53:38 PM No.714375576
>>714375116
Also I mean Gideon, Dung eater, and Goldmask, and Fia
I know there were tarnished that did have maidens
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:53:46 PM No.714375587
1642314758321
1642314758321
md5: 26bebc074fda3f4d6a6b40ef772566fc🔍
>>714375269
>NOOO He said sexualising shit before and after the fact but in that one tiny instance he suddenly didn't! Y-You're just a g-g-gooner.
Ok tranny, whatever your mental illness says. Nothing sexual about threatening to stick someone's body INSIDE a whores corpse, no sir.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:55:09 PM No.714375717
>>714375569
>and desecrate your corpses
The specific word was INTO. As in, your corpse, inside hers. Learn to read you dumb tranny fuck.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:55:21 PM No.714375741
Who is the other Tarnished that killed two demigods? The crone says you are the second one to do that. Gideon? She mentions him when praising you.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:56:05 PM No.714375816
Messmer is an older brother figure to Radahn, yet does not share the same parentage.
Messmer is simultaneously a child of Marika.
Radahn is also a child of Marika by the token of Marika also being Radagon.
Messmer's birth must have thus preceded that of the Carian demigods, and likewise, almost certainly the marriage of the Carian and Erdtree lands with the union of Radagon and Rennala.
So who is Messmer's father? Aesthetically, all signs point to Radagon. This is mirrored in his OST, which bears the same musical motifs as Radagon, and in aspects of Messmer's character. He is a formidable crusading warrior and enforcer of the Golden Order, possessed of flowing red-locks, seemingly accursed with aspects of the Fire-Giants. And in Messmer's case, he even possesses an ever-burning flame he loathes, similar to Radagon's abhorrence of his own hair. The serpentine nature of Messmer is the leading deviation.
Logic would dictate then that Messmer and Melina's births must have been the result of a pre-consort Radagon and Marika union sometime prior to the former's engagement with the Carians.
Unless...
Radagon is simply an elaborate cover for Messmer's place in history
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:56:21 PM No.714375850
>>714375296
The Tarnished don't all arise at once, there are centuries to millennia between when one group rises and another does.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:57:05 PM No.714375913
>>714375850
Cut Godfrey dialogue suggest they all arose at the same time.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:58:47 PM No.714376063
>>714369347 (OP)
A rambling backstory of intermarried families vying for a throne, which fromsoft fromsoftified
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:58:56 PM No.714376080
>>714375121
Ranni does not control the Black Knives.
The Black Knives kill Iji, who is loyal to her to his death, for example.
And the leader of the Black Knives is locked up in the middle of nowhere in Liurnia in a way that would make the most sense if Ranni managed to capture her.

They had a temporary alliance in the name of killing Godwyn, but that only lasted for a short time before the general hatred for the Gods that the Black Knives have took precedence.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:59:33 PM No.714376142
>>714375481
>her loyal dragon who serves only her and doesn't do anything without her order attacks you just because
Ranni fags and the new ways they find to cope...
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:59:38 PM No.714376154
fia
fia
md5: 521b8f4caa3c668368fa9b82ec61b405🔍
>>714375569
Deathbed companions are literally Kindling Maidens without the qualified immunity kindling maidens receive. Both are death priestesses able to channel the power of Death into new Life. That's why Fia gives you the Baldachin's Blessing.
It's just the Golden Order Fundamentalists being hypocritical zealots as usual, like when they lament "sullied" grace despite the grace of Gold itself being a bastardization of Light.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:59:46 PM No.714376165
>>714375569
He's clearly retarded. Don't worry about it. ER lore usually does this to a jeet.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:01:22 PM No.714376298
>>714376080
Black knights only kill iji after he becomes useless for ranni, what a nice coincidence
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:02:20 PM No.714376374
>>714375816
>yet does not share the same parentage.
There's no such thing as parentage. Marika's people are born out of grace, and all Demigods except the stepdemigods are born of Marika's grace specifically
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:02:29 PM No.714376385
>>714375913
If its cut, its cut, in my mind.
Guys like Vyke or Bernahl had to have rose a very long time ago before us. Their story doesn't really fit if it happened shortly before we showed up.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:03:47 PM No.714376476
After meditating on the matter for a year I came to the conclusion that Rauh and Hornsent are the only interesting parts of ER lore. Marika and her woman moment are meaningless.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:04:28 PM No.714376521
>>714375296
>>714375850
Shattering has taken place for decades at most, not millennia. Academy rebellion happened relatively recently to PC's awakening. The timeline of recent events in Elden Ring is far more straightforward than in Souls games. Just 30-80 years of constant war have devastated real countries and empires in history, 100 years war and 30-years war devastated the european countryside and made entire peasant communities disappear. In the battle of Agincourt the british soldiers had been campaigning long, resulting in half-starvation and widespread dysentery because they didn't have a clean water source. During the battle many soldiers decided to fight without pants in case they accidentally shit themselves again. England still won the battle because french are morons.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:05:29 PM No.714376595
>>714376165
Quit samefagging.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:06:48 PM No.714376739
>>714375741
Vyke and Bernahl both made it to the Giant's Forge before both quit.
Vyke got taken in by the Frenzied Flame because he couldn't burn his maiden. Bernahl's maiden failed to kindle the flame enough.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:06:59 PM No.714376754
>>714376521
Fatman said the Shattering took place 5000 years ago before the game takes place in a interview.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:08:02 PM No.714376860
>>714376739
Vyke and Bernhal never killed a single demigod they don't posses any greater rune.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:08:34 PM No.714376930
>>714376521
The world is definitely too degenerate to have only recently collapsed.
Half of Caria sank into the lake, which could only have really happened after hundreds of years of neglect.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:11:18 PM No.714377189
>>714369347 (OP)
I read Warbreaker and it sucked. What gives?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:11:44 PM No.714377240
>>714376860
Either of them could have lost their Rune, I suppose.
Vyke's could have been burnt by the Frenzied Flame.
Bernahl could have given his to the Volcano Manor.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:13:30 PM No.714377402
>>714376754
>Fatman said the Shattering took place 5000 years ago before the game takes place in a interview.
Thats hard to believe when the capital city and the inner walls still have their spear sticking on the ground and dragon corpses laying on the ground. One would think in 5000 years Morgott would just clean that shit up, or at the very least retreat the giant spears in case of a new attack. Some Golden Order soldiers are still stuck in the mountains, theres no way they survive 5000 years in there.
>Half of Caria sank into the lake, which could only have really happened after hundreds of years of neglect.
Or just magic artillery pounding the Academy during the coup. Lucaria is having its own little civil war, they're still fighting each other when player arrives in the area.
Replies: >>714378480
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:20:01 PM No.714377992
>>714369347 (OP)
>So, what was Martin's contribution to ER?
Martin drew up the world and characters, the mythology of Elden Ring.
FromSoft then took that world and destroyed it.
It's a very interesting way to construct a narrative.

Of course, most people will miss the way the writing centers on ideas of schisms, both in the Christian Church, but also of Empire, in particular, Rome.
Replies: >>714378218
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:20:13 PM No.714378014
Miyazaki absolute cinema
Miyazaki absolute cinema
md5: a979db69cf4cee05079b576965446448🔍
>The details of the Black Knight weapons and armor being the same of Black Iron posthumously decorared with Gold etchings
>The Black Blade Kindred using black corpse wax instead of normal corpse wax, which is also seen falling off Godwyn's eyes during his assassination, showing that black corpse wax is obtained after Demigods are assassinated with Death (which the Black Blade Kindred can use, doing magic damage)
>The Hornsent inquisitors using Golden Crucible barbs with candles lit which is shown as heretical in the base game and is inspired by the Steeples of Manus Metyr/Shadow Keep architecture
Miyazaki is literally a genius. He is what normalfaggots thought Hideo Kojimbo to be, an actual artist
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:22:47 PM No.714378218
>>714377992
>FromSoft then took that world and destroyed it.
Clearly they didn't, considering how inspired and brimming with details Elden Ring is
Replies: >>714378590
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:24:23 PM No.714378359
Lorefag explain to me how is the DLC overworld crawling with hornsent inquisitors and soldiers when the trailer says Messmer destroyed the hornsent? There is a group of inquisitors right beside Ensis. Are they still fighting the war?
Replies: >>714378516 >>714379725
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:25:49 PM No.714378480
>>714377402
Time is convoluted.
Or more specifically, time in Elden Ring is standing still. The Golden Order was the establishment of time as a constant, cyclical thing, the removal of "Destined Death" being the passage of time itself.
There are many hints towards this, most notably the Ancient Dragon smithing stone and the repeated motif of "the fallen leaves tell a story".
Replies: >>714378880 >>714379824
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:26:17 PM No.714378516
>>714378359
They're pretty rare in any Messmer-burned areas. You see inquisitors and warriors more in areas untouched by Messmer's flame. Most hornsent in the DLC are ghosts burned pitch black.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:27:10 PM No.714378590
>>714378218
No, they literally destroyed it. The world constructed by GRRM was the world BEFORE the night of the black knives and before the shattering.
Replies: >>714379529
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:30:22 PM No.714378880
>>714378480
That makes no sense. The world is littered with giant swords telling you the history of different war campaigns before and after the Shattering.
Replies: >>714379093
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:32:44 PM No.714379093
>>714378880
No, all of them happened before the shattering.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:33:57 PM No.714379218
>>714371615
>parasitical fungal hive-mind
A GRRM classic
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:35:11 PM No.714379341
>>714369347 (OP)
incest
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:37:14 PM No.714379529
>>714378590
>The world constructed by GRRM was the world BEFORE the night of the black knives and before the shattering.
So when literally everything had already happened or was set in stone
Replies: >>714379678
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:38:49 PM No.714379678
>>714379529
Before the world ended, yes.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:39:18 PM No.714379725
>>714378359
They are stragglers, it's not over. Queeling is still purging Belurat for example
Replies: >>714380008
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:40:36 PM No.714379824
>>714378480
time was messed with long before destined death was removed from the elden ring. the ancient dragons are the only faction with the property to bend time. I suspect placidusax and his god removed a concept relating to time from the elden ring during their reign as a parallel to marika removing destined death. both relating to the futility of maintaining their perfect orders.
the main theme of the game is that no order is eternal, a fate that is fought in vain. that's the story of the fallen leaves. a tree will regrow its leaves and shed them in the next seasonal cycle. the fallen leaves pile up, decay and provide nutrients for new life to flourish. in contrast marika's erdtree is supposed to be unchanging and eternal. its leaves never to shed and yet they do (and give you a rune buff). you see this metaphor in how the golden order built on top of or utilizes ruins of past civilizations.
Replies: >>714380035 >>714380258
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:42:43 PM No.714380008
>>714379725
He's a red invader. He isn't purging anything. He hidden in his cuckshed in the keep. Red phantoms can only invade in the presence of graced tarnish. Belurat has neither of that.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:42:55 PM No.714380035
>>714379824
So they just copied story from monster hunter world?
Holy shit, that was lazy
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:45:24 PM No.714380258
>>714379824
Placidusax was trapped in the past, outside the Golden Order. Farum Azula was sealed by the power of the Erdtree. Placidusax has no connection to time himself, beyond being an Ancient Dragon, as the scales of the Ancient Dragons twist time by themselves, making them functionally invincible without being able to manipulate time.
Replies: >>714382065
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:50:13 PM No.714380703
>>714369347 (OP)
Hidetaka Miyazaki X Eiichiro Oda collaboration is the only that makes sense next.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:51:35 PM No.714380843
>>714371886
>ailing village
>Jarburg
>village of the albanaurics
>that entire town that is before the gate to the glintstone acadamy

Didn't play the game fucko
Replies: >>714381740
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:00:35 PM No.714381740
>>714380843
There are no towns in ER only villages. There is the academy town but no one lives there it's just a ruin with no intact buildings. In the DLC you have multiple towns with rooms you can actually enter and have inhabitants.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:03:19 PM No.714382015
>>714374126
Going back to the OP, GRRM loves his incest

And it makes sense, messemer iirc is the son of godfrey and has red hair, yet the red hair supposedly comes from Radogan and not godfrey
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:03:54 PM No.714382065
>>714380258
placidusax isn't trapped he put himself there as evidenced by the dragon priestess donating her sleep to him. farum azula is another great example of an eternal order fighting against its fate to fade in vain. it's literally crumbling. small detail, but under some of the white scales of the ancient dragons you can still see gold. farum azula's stonework is also bleached as it's stuck bathing in eternal sunlight. they're tarnished.
it's speculation on my part, but we know the elden ring has changed form over time, where else would the ancient dragons get this reality bending ability if not a shard of the elden ring?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:26:54 PM No.714384389
>>714369347 (OP)
Souls was niche before GURM slapped his name on it. That's literally the only reason normalfags started buying these games.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:28:45 PM No.714384605
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1738913701048737
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Something I find interesting regarding the Lore of this game is that the Crucible Knights are all said to be soldiers of Godfrey, but Marika is extremely clear about not liking anything to do with the Crucible. They have horns, tails, wings, all stuff the Hornsent liked, but she tried to purge from humanity. It does say that they were scorned after some time, however. But not kicked out of service.
They also apparently didn't follow Godfrey into the Badlands when he was banished, or at least a bunch of them stayed behind when he left.

I don't really know where this goes.
Maybe Godfrey being so animalistic and feral is a sign of him actually having some closer connection to the Crucible. Maybe that is part of what made Marika seek him out as her first Elden Lord.
He gathered a powerful force based on this connection to the Crucible, and this made him the most powerful warlord before Marika's rise. But in the end, the knights themselves were left behind by him when he departed the continent?
Replies: >>714388483
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:58:20 PM No.714387943
>dude let's kill anyone without grace!
Why hasn't Messmer offed himself then? Are his men retarded? They don't have any grace either.
Replies: >>714389207
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:03:05 PM No.714388483
>>714384605
Godfrey was a different kind of crucible warrior. He's like those hornsent bird dudes and the bear communion guy.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:04:50 PM No.714388662
1518334440303
1518334440303
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>The Brandon Sanderson dream lives on!
I don't even get what the appeal of that guy is. Got filtered by way of kings because everything about it just screamed boring and propagandistic in a corporate way. The one thread I was kinda interested in was the old knight having some sort of meltdown over visions, and then after all that buildup the big reveal is a prophetic dream where "BLACKS AND WOMEN WERE WIZARD GUNDAM AVENGERS TOO!" Boring ass setting.
Replies: >>714390185
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:10:15 PM No.714389207
>>714387943
They use fake grace to cope with the fact that they were disposable tools that have been abandoned for millenia
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:18:45 PM No.714389994
>>714369347 (OP)
Tolkien is already dead. there's no one else. This miyafag can only steal and copy from book writers LMAO

He BETTER not work with Guilermo del toro, fatass sucks.
Replies: >>714398174
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:20:39 PM No.714390185
>>714388662
>boring and propagandistic in a corporate way.
Elaborate
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:36:03 PM No.714391660
>>714369347 (OP)
I've been telling you since the start. The fatass wrote some generic incestuous family of royals and nobles, and Miyazaki turned them all into monstrosities in a post-apoc world.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:38:25 PM No.714391907
>>714369347 (OP)
It's almost like he was never a good author
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:39:42 PM No.714392048
>>714375548
that clearly has two eyes bro
Replies: >>714392696
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:40:42 PM No.714392148
>>714378014
The Miyazaki/Kojima dichotomy in narrative design philosophy is perhaps the most eloquent example of show vs tell in the gaming industry
And that's not even to suggest one is necessarily better than the other in regards to their output, merely that both take their respective methodologies to absolute extreme
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:42:53 PM No.714392447
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1479519766165
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>>714369347 (OP)
>So, what was Martin's contribution to ER?
The publicity, duh.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:43:34 PM No.714392536
>>714369347 (OP)
>story and world building were somehow even worse than das and das3 ones
exactly
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:44:47 PM No.714392696
>>714392048
Could you stop pointing out he is wrong? It's not good for his mental health.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:47:24 PM No.714393007
>>714369347 (OP)
basically he wrote some basic plot outlines about war, betrayal and marriage typical of medieval european inspired history to give to Miyazaki to scramble the fuck up into the typical patchwork of lore common to his games

you'll notice that instead of just "KING OF EMBERS" or "THE LORD OF THIS AND THAT" you get a bit more context of family lines of rulers and nobles along with their common armies mixed in with all the other crazy shit.

oh and dragons
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:50:12 PM No.714393329
>>714375548
This looks nothing like the fire monk set. It dosen't even look like a face in the first place you just saw that small spine and saw a nose. But there is no other facial feature here. Not to mention the fell god has ONE eye and the fire monk set has a huge grin. Meanwhile this looks nothing like it. Anon was right. Take meds.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:50:16 PM No.714393340
>>714369347 (OP)
Gold-tinged excrement.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:52:19 PM No.714393574
I bought elden ring because I thought the story would be good and it would be cool to bz inteoduced to grr martin by a game he contributed to and see his universe he created. turned out the most boring story and game ever
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:04:54 PM No.714394987
>>714369347 (OP)
I just realised that Hewg is Godwyn
my god
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:10:23 PM No.714395475
smi
smi
md5: 5cae31693c8cd18ba9de575f0c166794🔍
>spends an hour rambling off retarded schizo nonsense
yep, it's souls lore youtuber time
Replies: >>714396013 >>714398802
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:16:00 PM No.714396013
>>714395475
>gets his modder buddy to surgically graft the Manus Celes two-fingers onto Metyr's crotch and fully animate it to an almost professional quality, just to bolster his absurdly tenuous theory that it was originally Metyr's amputated genitalia-legs
It's ludicrous, but also kind of based
His theory about Metyr using her face to bash the dents into Stormveil was nonsensical though
Replies: >>714398419
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:17:49 PM No.714396186
>>714370941
I hate this hacks writing
Replies: >>714399571 >>714402451
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:34:40 PM No.714397859
>>714369347 (OP)
He contributed everything relating to the Gloam Eyed Queen and her tax policies
Replies: >>714397968
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:35:44 PM No.714397968
>>714397859
What are those tax policies
Replies: >>714398080
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:36:50 PM No.714398080
>>714397968
You die when you get old.
Replies: >>714398134
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:37:29 PM No.714398134
>>714398080
wtf I'm on Marika's side now
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:38:03 PM No.714398174
>>714389994
Even if Tolkien were alive Myazaki most likely despises him with a contempt that outclasses even Martin. Don't forget Asians literally can't comprehend white man fiction like LOTR.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:40:40 PM No.714398419
>>714396013
Why can't lorefaggots accept that stormveil got assaulted by siege weaponry as opposed to it being every random character they can think of?
Replies: >>714398824 >>714399171 >>714399337
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:44:36 PM No.714398802
>>714395475
Tarnished Archeologist is another fanfic peddler.
Replies: >>714399469
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:44:52 PM No.714398824
>>714398419
>siege claws
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:48:38 PM No.714399171
>>714398419
Because the thought a ballista can use enchanted ammo is too much for them.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:50:17 PM No.714399337
Untitledd
Untitledd
md5: ad3b12e099c0039f4a2cd9d193756dd3🔍
>>714398419
the castle is like that because of Godwyn's corpse infesting it. Those aren't all ballista wounds, thats the castle itself grafted to Godwyn and trying to form his eyes

You can literally see his roots inside the wounds
Replies: >>714399505 >>714399737
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:51:40 PM No.714399469
>>714398802
literally the only good ER lore channel, I don't believe everything they say but it's at least believable and maybe on the right track. Some channels (I think smoughtown is one of them) literally just like summarize item descriptions and offer no new ideas at all, wtf is the point
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:51:58 PM No.714399505
>>714399337
The castle is like that because Mallenia besieged it in the shattering with her rot infused aids. You have a memorial for that in front of the castle.
Replies: >>714399590
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:52:34 PM No.714399571
21669064eeab155edfd822a349b4a547
21669064eeab155edfd822a349b4a547
md5: de124a74a31e8256766464b0e73be96d🔍
>>714396186
>and STAND Zanzibart did!
>"I'm his Fire Keeper."
>Elden Lord of Second Chances (lel)
eh maybe we will have a Syl companion that'd be cute
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:52:48 PM No.714399590
>>714399505
>REEEEEE STOP MAKING UP LORE
>here's my made up lore tho :)
Replies: >>714399750
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:54:07 PM No.714399737
>>714399337
yeah if there is ever an Elden Ring 2 dealing with the consequences of Godwyn's Corpse that might be a possible plotline, personally it'd be funny to see ER2 be a DS2 whose plot is 80% removed from the first game. Guess we'll see in 2032
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:54:17 PM No.714399750
>>714399590
>Godrick the Golden, humiliated
Having tasted defeat by the Blade of Miquella
Now on his knees, begging for mercy
Right in front of the castle gate in Limgrave.
Replies: >>714399897
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:55:50 PM No.714399897
>>714399750
Defeated by MALENIA, there's literally no evidence that she has ever had an army
Replies: >>714400208
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:59:14 PM No.714400208
>>714399897
>no evidence that she has ever had an army
In Linuria you have a monument of her army marching south.
>This marks Malenia's southward march The Blade of Miquella and her Cleanrot Knights Grant her wings never to be clipped
The road it's on leads straight to castle Stormveil. She then continued to Caelid to fight Radhan following the same road from Limgrave.
Replies: >>714400341
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:00:36 PM No.714400341
>>714400208
now explain the scratch marks on the castle
Replies: >>714400787 >>714401086 >>714401608 >>714404089
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:04:58 PM No.714400787
>>714400341
yeah it's both guys, Malenia's cleanrot knights helped the siege and Godwyn's corpse is at the bottom of the castle, it is classic double reason storytelling to make you wonder. Elden Ring, like most miyazaki work, has layers. This is one of the more obvious ones IMO
now the YT schizo saying that the MC player is Godwyn? that Godwyn's soul was reborn in the chapel of anticipation? its a 10 part series and you know what I believe him haha its at least a circumstantial interpretation of author intent, maybe not final product but the pieces are there
Replies: >>714401576
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:07:35 PM No.714401026
>>714369347 (OP)
His contribution to Elden Ring was THE LOATHSOME DUNG EATER. Who eats ass.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:08:09 PM No.714401086
>>714400341
One of her knights had the serpent slayer spear.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:12:43 PM No.714401576
>>714400787
>mitazaki works
>layers
Replies: >>714402465
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:13:01 PM No.714401608
>>714400341
Dragons
There is a dragon corpse in Godrick's tattered courtyard
The conflict between Godfrey and the Stormlord imply a historical battle took place, the marking may have originated there
There is a massive tumour in the castle's basement that's emerged like a fruiting fungal body from the world-cancer spread throughout the land's root systems
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:15:03 PM No.714401812
>it was just a siege, simple as
>o-ok I guess there were dragons too
>and the thorns on the castle are something else, maybe?
So this is the power of fromsoft lore?
Replies: >>714402049 >>714402461
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:17:43 PM No.714402036
>>714371710
Sanderson is literally a YA writer anon, Maybe he wasn't on the past but he is now.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:17:53 PM No.714402049
>>714401812
Considering briars are a common type of magic you can have briar siege bolts no problem. You also has a precedence with House Marias who are worshipers of Mallenia and employ briars as a method of punishment.
Replies: >>714402138
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:18:53 PM No.714402138
>>714402049
The thorns are coming from Godwin's corpse and the castle is described as being sick...
Replies: >>714402297
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:19:43 PM No.714402215
Ehs5nZkUcAI-ksF
Ehs5nZkUcAI-ksF
md5: 6470f8863e7dafb41674c4af98baba4a🔍
>>714369347 (OP)
>Uses Das
>Didn't understand DS2
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:20:37 PM No.714402297
>>714402138
The thorns on the castle don't attract flies like death related ones do.
Replies: >>714402575
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:22:12 PM No.714402451
>>714396186
>>714370941
His first novels is series are great, and he lands endings. Sanderson just needs to learn to tighten up.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:22:21 PM No.714402461
>>714401812
it's a fortress that's changed hands several times. it's possible all that damage didn't happen at one point in time.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:22:26 PM No.714402465
>>714401576
yeah like the game will say one thing and mean or allude to another outcome, you may have missed that I encourage a replay if you have the time
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:22:34 PM No.714402478
>>714369347 (OP)
I work in the publishing industry.

I've met with Martin myself and he doesn't do anything.

He 'produces' adaptions of his favorite novels by telling HBO he'll stap his name on it to get people to watch it. I have no doubt that he did the same for Elden Ring.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:23:50 PM No.714402575
>>714402297
Relevance? You can LITERALLY see them coming from his body.
Replies: >>714402762
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:24:27 PM No.714402627
Does Elden Ring hide its lore within item descriptions?
Replies: >>714402739
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:24:42 PM No.714402648
>>714371853
>900 page YA books
Ok
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:25:37 PM No.714402731
Kind of crazy how nobodies like Harman Smith (Who is in this thread right now) can pump out high quality novels at least once a year while Martin sits on his ass and does nothing.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:25:42 PM No.714402739
>>714402627
More than DS2 and Sekiro, less than anything else.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:25:58 PM No.714402762
>>714402575
Death related thorns are black and gold. Briar related thorns are gray. You see the same thorns on the Erdtree. They are sign of punishment in the lore of ER.
Replies: >>714402908
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:27:42 PM No.714402908
shield
shield
md5: 95eee75cdad1d054515fc40d7dd5145c🔍
>>714402762
THEY ARE LITERALLY COMING OUT OF HIS CORPSE TO RETARD
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:31:05 PM No.714403210
>>714369347 (OP)
He wrote some basic background lore and that's it, his part was minimal. The actual story, characters, and everything was done by From as usual. His involvement happened simply because Miyazaki was a fan of the dude and another employee reached out without Miyazaki even knowing, expecting to get shot down. I won't spoonfeed you links but all of this was in interviews that happened after ER was announced, I thought this was common knowledge by now.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:38:09 PM No.714403925
>>714373573
Could Ragadon use Grace as well?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:38:42 PM No.714403980
1646923544029
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/thread
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:39:06 PM No.714404020
>>714369347 (OP)
Damn it, george, stop screwing around with those side projects of yours and finish your book series! You know the one i'm referring to!
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:39:49 PM No.714404089
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>>714400341
Revvy did it.
Replies: >>714404215 >>714404265
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:41:05 PM No.714404215
>>714404089
Miquella if he doll
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:41:29 PM No.714404265
>>714404089
whom
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:43:54 PM No.714404491
Not sure what the point of Martin was considering Elden Ring was pretty much the same shit as always. This is nothing Miyazaki himself couldn't have done on his own.
Replies: >>714404675 >>714404934
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:45:50 PM No.714404675
>>714404491
You're right that From didn't need him at all but again, it happened simply because Miyazaki is apparently a fan of the guy.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:48:21 PM No.714404934
>>714404491
No, as people pointed out many times, ER main lore is pretty straightforward without constant copes about time being convulted and contradictions
Same as other games barely touched by miyahack, like des and das2.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:53:39 PM No.714405452
Come on Harry Potter
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:11:43 PM No.714407125
Manlytears and his goldfish
Manlytears and his goldfish
md5: 5648126e2290626e4bb0d30e4fa6ecfd🔍
>>714375389
i find goldmask interesting because he's obsessed with the golden order becoming an objective part of reality but he also has little or no interest in it and its ways and has been repeatedly chased out of it as a heretic, stuff like corhyn somehow not identifying goldmask as a notorious heretic until watching his finger waggle a certain way (or the repeated implication and sometimes direct statement that all finger stuff is crankery with the two fingers losing contact with the greater will almost instantly) (corhyn himself is a crank with the mule yoke around his neck to warn passersby he's a crank which is even funnier)

and there's more than a bit of vanity to his character with fashioning a halo mask for himself at the same time as wearing rags because he believes finery is beneath him. i wondered a bunch if goldmask was mute for the entire duration of the game because he had a stitched shut mouth or something, or even if speaking out loud would give away the plot on his end