neogaf leaks: Xbox training management on how to prompt LLMs for assets - /v/ (#714371565) [Archived: 605 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:01:49 PM No.714371565
News - Microsoft has announced job cuts at Xbox Division Page 13 NeoGAF
>The contingency plan for projects that are making it out the other end of this is to supplement the loss of manpower & experience by training management of all levels on proper applications of CoPilot/ChatGPT. Videos on how to prompt LLMs for assets and new potential workflows are being produced as we speak.
>Also - this is not the last round of layoffs for XGS by a long shot.

>Based on the convos i've had, I think the future of Xbox overall is likely a combination of a handful of teams at the tier of Blizzard, CoD, and Minecraft, with a slow-bleed of every other team and studio slowly dying off as layoffs and budget cuts reduce everything as time marches forward.
>The reason why so much effort is being poured into maintaining the charade is because theres a 10-20m userbase of very diehard users who all have an absurdly high likely hood of maintaining their higher tiers of GP subscriptions through this

>They wanna maintain that revenue stream as long as possible while they, over-time, restructure Xbox into a far leaner endeavor that focuses on a handful of mega-projects.
>When it begins to come out just how fucking incredible the title he was working on was that got axed today.
>That game had some of the best reactions from folks who played it as playtest for an MP-focused title that i'd heard from in years. It takes an absolute truck load to have folks heap praise on an MP playtest in modern times. This game would've been spectacular.

>Typically, in situations where publicly-known games get cancelled, theres this sense in the fanbase of 'the thing we didn't get might've been so incredible', and finger-pointing amongst execs who just didn't get it. Well, this is one of the cancelled games that, by literally every account, sounded like it would've been a slam dunk in literally every sense.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:06:10 PM No.714371865
>>714371565 (OP)
>When it begins to come out just how fucking incredible the title he was working on was that got axed today.
What game were they talking about?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:08:20 PM No.714372004
Jesus Christ. I already hated capitalists for ritually cancelling games that are 90% complete just on the hunch they will make slightly more money by not releasing it. But now we know they're gutting things just to feed it into the slop machine. And we won't see a new IP from Xbox maybe ever.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:11:54 PM No.714372261
>our studios are trash what do we do
>let's buy 20 studios and give them as much freedom as they need
>announce 20 games and everybody is hyped
>5 years later
>those 20 studios have spent those 5 years doing jack shit
>microsoft breathing down phils neck
>quick lay off all the idiots and hope it's good enough

Xbox doesn't realize that there is no sure fire formula that produces great games. They thought that if they give their devs blank cheques they would use that time to make amazing games but instead they were just bumbling around day dreaming, cooking up design documents and prototypes that never went anywhere.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:15:20 PM No.714372546
>AI is only benefitting big corporations by enabling them to pump out sloppa at an accelerated pace with enormous amounts of money saved they than can pump into advertisements
Say it ain't so.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:17:38 PM No.714372713
>>714372261
all you have to do is convince shareholders that you're increasing stock value when you buy devs out or trim the fat, whether games actually get made or not is incidental.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:18:58 PM No.714372814
>Management doing any actual work
I don't think so
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:19:10 PM No.714372829
>>714371565 (OP)
>When it begins to come out just how fucking incredible the title he was working on was that got axed today.
>That game had some of the best reactions from folks who played it as playtest for an MP-focused title that i'd heard from in years. It takes an absolute truck load to have folks heap praise on an MP playtest in modern times. This game would've been spectacular.
Yeah, sure. MS just cancelled a well testing GaaS in the age of GaaS... because.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:19:53 PM No.714372879
>>714372713
>whether games actually get made or not is incidental
Which is why they focused so much on gamepass. Bundled a bunch of games that weren't making money on their own and offered the package for a $15-20 subscription so they at least make some.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:20:40 PM No.714372934
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Microsoft goes by the Actually Indians definition of AI. Satya Nadella's sole goal is to flood America with as many Indians as possible and dispossess as much native talent as he can.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:22:50 PM No.714373096
>>714372934
Incidentally, I do not believe the "author" of the article youvé just posted a screencap of is real either. I think that thumbnail is also AI generated.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:23:32 PM No.714373152
>>714372934
Nadella also moved majority of MS AI projects to india too. How is american gov not doing anything is hilarious lmao. MIGA truly is Make Israel/INDIA Great Again.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:23:55 PM No.714373175
>>714371565 (OP)
If AI is good enough for a retard middle manager to shit out an Xbox quality game then imagine what a dedicated autist could do. We'll soon have an explosion of indie games not seen since the days of the BBC micro
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:24:39 PM No.714373229
>>714372004
>I already hated capitalists
And what are you?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:25:18 PM No.714373265
>>714371565 (OP)
Good. It's time to accept AI, there's no way back. Just like boomers were critical of the internet, zoomers are now losing their minds over AI. Embrace change.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:29:47 PM No.714373613
>>714372934
Indians do this to companies everywhere in the world. My dad told me to never train Indian nationals unless I want to lose my job.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:33:20 PM No.714373880
>>714372004
>>714373229
He is a dirty filthy communist that the government needs to be his dad because he had a shit relationship with his real dad.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:33:22 PM No.714373885
>>714371865
Dunno, but Matt Booty said some unannounced games have been canned on top of what we already know about
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:34:10 PM No.714373942
>>714372713
This
Reminder that Matt Booty's claim to fame at Midway before he joined Xbox was strategically firing everyone in waves to keep the sinking ship going as long as possible to maximize shareholder value.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:35:43 PM No.714374058
>>714373229
I'm the dude
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:39:05 PM No.714374321
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>>714373229
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:42:28 PM No.714374615
>>714373152
that would explain why copilot is so shit...
i can't believe anyone uses that turd.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:43:29 PM No.714374702
>>714374321
communism has literally never improved society
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:44:06 PM No.714374753
>>714371565 (OP)
They're waiting to release the last games of their fabled roadmap to close everything and only put out cod, Halo, Forza and Gears.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:44:08 PM No.714374757
They are putting everything into fallout and elder scrolls probably
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:45:41 PM No.714374879
>>714374615
is it actually just pretending to be an AI like that Builder scam?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:45:48 PM No.714374884
>>714371565 (OP)
>neogaf leaks
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:47:45 PM No.714375040
fuck that dumb socialist comic
fuck that dumb socialist comic
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>>714374321
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:47:57 PM No.714375059
>>714374702
Communism created the most powerful nation in the world rn
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:50:34 PM No.714375312
>>714375059
Argentina?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:57:35 PM No.714375968
>>714371565 (OP)
holy kek. xbox is completely done
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:59:58 PM No.714376180
>>714371565 (OP)
Please please accelerate this AI shit. It's going to make games made on fucking Dream (PS4) look like GOTYs
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:03:04 PM No.714376429
>>714375059
>most powerful nation
china is literally not even in the top 50 of gdp per capita.
you want to do per capita?
try combining all of Europe + USA + Canada + Australia (which is still less people than chinese) and then compare the "power"
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:03:32 PM No.714376461
>>714373229
A cog in the machine who hates the machine, anon. Just let him keep sipping his ethically sourced onions latte while tweeting about dismantling capitalism from an iPhone.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:04:01 PM No.714376486
>>714371565 (OP)
>best reactions from folks who played it as playtest for an MP-focused title that i'd heard from in years
>sounded like it would've been a slam dunk in literally every sense.
Yeah right, pardon me if i don't take playtesters Karen and Becky on their word
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:11:24 PM No.714377204
>>714371565 (OP)
If LLMs start producing assets for MS games, the quality of assets will go up massively. Halo Infinite assets looked like they were made by someone who got into 3D graphics a week ago.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:12:55 PM No.714377350
>>714375040
NOOOOO I NEED MY NEW iPHONE AND STARBUCKS COFFEE AND DISNEY+ SUBSCRIPTION
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:13:50 PM No.714377431
>>714371565 (OP)
This is pretty normal, do you not have a job? Every company under the sun is training their employees on basic prompting stuff.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:22:23 PM No.714378194
>>714374702
Cuba has better literacy and cancer survival rates than the USA
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:34:17 PM No.714379252
>be American who trained in creative fields for years, hoping to get a game artist job
>Finally do, then get promptly fired in lieu of hiring a cheaper Indian guy who was trained to shit something out quickly with the use of A.I. prompts

USA devs are circling the drain in destroying their national job market while obtaining a new level of soullessness in their vidya so let's reward them with extra hundreds of billions in tax breaks again
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:37:22 PM No.714379545
>>714379252
Skill issue, honestly. How worthless you gotta be for a STREET SHITTER to replace you in creative fields.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:40:47 PM No.714379837
>>714372261
Most likely studios had to blow like 10 managers in a row up the corpo ladder to get an approval to add a new npc to their game.
It's one thing when 1 or 2 projects spiral into dev hell and another when every team cannot deliver shit.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:42:18 PM No.714379971
>>714373229
Maybe he's nat soc
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:42:24 PM No.714379982
>>714379545
The quality of the product is irrelevant to big corporations now, the only thing that matters is stock prices. The quality of the product is irrelevant to stock prices, because you're selling shareholders endless promises
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:42:50 PM No.714380024
>>714375040
capitalism is how modern world is structured, there is no option for "doing less capitalism" its the frame that sets the limits of what you can do
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:45:36 PM No.714380282
>>714379982
Are you though? Not a single ugly mutt themed game is doing well right now. How exactly are you gonna sell pajeets on art to shareholders? Even snoy of all companies is getting a reality check.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:46:37 PM No.714380371
>>714380282
They aren't selling games anon, they're selling the promise of AI now. It doesn't matter if the games are good or bad, if Windows is good or bad, if Office is good or bad, only that they can show AI doing it
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:47:26 PM No.714380445
If you fire all the people with dyed hair, piercings, and tattoos it would fix what happened with the game industry from 2014 to present. But more importantly fire all employees including managers with no programming, hardware, or design experience. Especially the lawyers.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:48:24 PM No.714380535
>>714371565 (OP)
damn thats crazy
still not purchasing microsoft hardware or software
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:50:45 PM No.714380754
>>714371565 (OP)
>>They wanna maintain that revenue stream as long as possible while they, over-time, restructure Xbox into a far leaner endeavor that focuses on a handful of mega-projects.
xbox is a tumor
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:50:57 PM No.714380780
>>714379837
>It's one thing when 1 or 2 projects spiral into dev hell and another when every team cannot deliver shit.

I think, if that were the case, they would have killed those studios/projects way sooner. A team that misses every milestone for a year and shows no progress would first get restructured(if xbox believes in the value of the IP) and killed shortly after. I can't imagine xbox management being too stupid to figure out when a studio strings them along.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:51:08 PM No.714380794
>>714371565 (OP)
>because theres a 10-20m userbase of very diehard users
this is Microsoft PR at work, their real numbers are much lower
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:54:08 PM No.714381084
>>714380794
Officially they had 34m subs in february so the leaker suggesting 10-20m is insane. Even marketing isn't lying on that scale. At most they exaggerate by 10 or 15%, not 50-75%.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:59:07 PM No.714381568
>>714380780
That's the thing, I don't think they've missed the milestones. More likely that uselsess manager from MS would come and say "wow great prototype but can you add NFT to it?" then 3 months later another manager would come in and be like "wow great prototype but NFT are so last year add AI" etc etc etc.
Because every studio they've bought managed to release a game before, but suddenly under MS they can't push out one project in 7 years. This has to be a retarded management issue.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:02:35 PM No.714381948
>>714381084
"diehard" means keeping gamepass ultimate even in a game drought, that's like 3-7M users at MOST

what they are really butthurt about is the fact that the Madden/FIFA crowds aren't as reliable as they used to be and COD is too stale to keep players on their platform.

Xbox as a brand has been decaying since the Xbone release, and their strategy to shift to cloud gaming is an abject failure. If I were an MS shareholder I'd have already sold a long time ago.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:04:07 PM No.714382084
>>714381568
>but suddenly under MS they can't push out one project in 7 years.
Smells like feature creep to me. Devs sitting in meetings and talking endlessly about all the stuff they want to add but in the end nobody knows to do it so they spend years trying to figure out that part.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:12:57 PM No.714382959
>>714381948
>Madden/FIFA crowds aren't as reliable as they used

The live service market is just too crowded and those games don't have that mono gamer draw that those waifu gachas have. Is it even possible to spend thousands on fifa/madden like whales can on gachas?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:19:13 PM No.714383589
>>714382959
FIFA beat gacha games to the punch with Ultimate Team. Normalfags are gradually getting tired of every sports game becoming a gambling simulator, though. There's a good video I watched where a sports game fan explained that back in 6th and even 7th gen you'd have lots of options for a football/basketball/etc. game, now every genre only has 1 game by 1 publisher and they're all ripping you off the same way.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:22:09 PM No.714383919
>>714371565 (OP)
>muh axed GAAS game was going to be the second coming of Jesus
Yeah sure... No one is one to hire you troon
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:24:46 PM No.714384169
The only good thing to come out of this is that Microsoft "buy them all" fever is finally over
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:25:45 PM No.714384265
>>714383589
>now every genre only has 1 game by 1 publisher and they're all ripping you off the same way
Licenses are getting more expensive, development is getting more complicated and less efficient, they still have to come out every year and they are still "only" $70. Of course they cram as many mtx into the game as they can and of course that pissess off their fans. That is why a subscription model would be perfect.

>$20 per month
>mtx are free
>get the newest iteration every year
But it's still a tough sell for an audience that is used to buying and owning a finished game.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:30:13 PM No.714384761
>>714376429
To your point, the CCP likely keeps China down. Its a country of 1 billion people with the highest average IQ on the planet. The CCP is probably the greatest thing for the US since it keeps them focused on dumb bureaucracy, wasting money through central planning and retarded regulation that prevent businesses from growing. Communism is the great limiting factor that prevents the Chinese century
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:30:24 PM No.714384778
>>714379252
a sane nation would have native/citizen protectionism and favoritism when it comes to employment.

global corporatism is unironically evil.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:37:06 PM No.714385551
>>714371565 (OP)
>Focuses on a handful of mega-projects
Ah the classic Square Enix strategy, xbox fans are totally fucked lmao.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:39:49 PM No.714385859
>>714373613
Arab here. kerala mafia is one of strongest. They operate like jews and help their own. Pakis work to support each others. Filpinos are less cancer and show fake face but at least they aren't as bad as pajeets/pakis. I met some good ones but they're always scared you will replace them in your own land they want to own everything.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:40:39 PM No.714385951
>microsoft expects ai to make workers more productive
Woah. The leak of all leaks right here.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:54:07 PM No.714387492
>>714385859
Spot on from my experience as well. Filipinos aren't great but there's at least some desire to work and improve things
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:58:03 PM No.714387906
>>714373229
Burgers in the thread already...
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:00:48 PM No.714388216
>>714371565 (OP)
I dont believe xbox leaks because most of them are fake or Microsoft does a 180 because they're like a bipolar girlfriend
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:01:46 PM No.714388337
Are those managers that fucking stupid?
They think that chatgpt is genuinely AI that replaces/makes a dev more productive?
It's the fucking opposite.
How come there's not a single fucking dev leading microsoft????
It's the fucking opposite. AI is terrible and makes a shit load of mistakes.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:01:58 PM No.714388361
>>714380371
No retard, microsoft is insanely profitable, that's what shareholders care about
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:02:53 PM No.714388464
>>714380754
Can't even make a good game with a stable/high playerbase
>LETS MAKE MEGA PROJECTS WITH 100M PLAYERS AND SHIT LOAD OF MTX THAT BRING $5000 BILLIONS PER YEAR
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:04:14 PM No.714388603
>>714371565 (OP)
>learn to co-ACK
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:05:24 PM No.714388727
>>714388361
They are insanely profitable due to Azur and other monopolies built years ago that just prints money.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:07:17 PM No.714388913
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>>714372004
>I can't believe duh corporayshuns killed "Perfect Dark Reboot". This is the greatest tragedy world of art has ever seen
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:13:30 PM No.714389502
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>>714371565 (OP)
kek I hit it off with my boss recently because I use AI recreationally and I saw him playing around with it on his breaks. a bunch of guys got laid off this week and surprisingly I wasn't one of them, I'm pretty sure that AI actually saved my job. better yet one of the coworkers I hate (shitlib weeb faggot) who butted in our conversation sperging about LLMs and search results or some shit got fired fucking L eat shit bozo