Now that Perfect Dark is dead , are immersive Sims over?

>Arkane Austin closed
>Embracer killed Deus Ex
>Ken Levine's Judas in development he'll
>Thief dead aside from vr spin off

Raph Colantonio is working on a new one, actually first-person this time
besides that it seems to be mostly indies like RetroSpace, Gloomwood etc

https://x.com/WolfEyeGames

>>714445157 (OP)
Yeah
I was looking forward to nu-PD ONLY because it was slated to being imsim-y

>>714445157 (OP)
Just another bait post (putting bioshits on an image about imsims). Can you even pick things up in bioshock? I don't think so. Certainly no need to. It's a fuckin doomlike

>>714445157 (OP)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2067820/RetroSpace/

>>714445157 (OP)
>Ctrl Alt Ego out
>Ctrl Alt Ego 2 announced
>Skin Deep out
>SS1 Remake out
>SS2 Remaster out
>Gloomwood in EA and progressing rapidly
>Fallen Aces in EA and also progressing rapidly
>Peripetaia in EA and progressing slowly
>Psycho Patrol R in EA and dev having another existential crisis
>Deep State looking excellent
>Parkside looking excellent
>>714445409
>>714446307
The future is bright, look beyond AAA

>>714446190
You can pick things up with telekinesis.

>>714447096
Ctrl Alt Ego is unironically the only decent indie imsim
>SS1 Remake
slop
play the original
>SS2 Remaster
$30 for a mod pack
play the original

>>714445157 (OP)
Immersive Sims were never going in my opinion. What is there to be over?

>>714445157 (OP)
>Now that Perfect Dark is dead

Are we calling Perfect Dark an immersive sim now? It's not. It's an unofficial sequel to Goldeneye, and much the same kind of game.

Immersive sims might be over, sadly. No one's going to make one without a triple-A budget, and no one's going to get that amount of money for this niche genre.

Indie devs might be able to bring the genre back someday, I suppose, but I'm not impressed by what I've seen so far. Give me a fully developed imsim that releases on Day One. Don't string me along with some half-cooked game that spends eternity in early access, because I'm not gonna be interested.

Define immersive sim

If you can

>>714445157 (OP)
Infinite is NOT an immersive sim lol. Someone needs to add Arx Fatalis.

>>714447959
An action game with additional layers of interactivity and some opportunity for invention by the player. Usually, but not necessarily, with light RPG mechanics attached,

>>714446190
jesus nobody here plays games

>>714447959
Game that adopts LGS paradigms of abstracting player choice from traditional tabletops by providing a sandbox / fleshed out systems for emergent gameplay
Goldeneye/Perfect Dark mission structure but not confined to traditional "level / difficulty select" screens as each level and objective flow between one another

>>714448379
>Goldeneye/Perfect Dark mission structure

Those games have escort missions, timers, and failstates, none of which are characteristic of imsims.

>>714445157 (OP)
Why was perfect dark an immersive sim. It's fame was from the multiplayer. No wonder it was in dev hell. Literally was the only game I had been looking forward to.

>>714447737
If there was a live service slop I'd pay money for, it would be in te perfect dark universe. Someone seriously needs to can these executives. It makes no sense these people always manage to get top jobs after tanking a company unless that's specifically what they were brought in to do. All these studio deaths are controlled demolitions.

interesting that imersive sim fags never talk about ultima underworld or system shock before it got the remake

>>714447959
A simulation where the player doesn't know where the game ends and the player begins...

>>714445157 (OP)
Blade maybe? If it has any imsim elements and unless it's also shitcanned? Anyways I don't think we will see an imsim resurgence unless someone makes another Deus Ex or Dishonored. Lost technology. Lost skill.

>>714451712
>Blade
oh yeah I forgot that arkane were making that, it will probably be good but like dishonoured and prey they'll have to compromise for AAA console audience and play like a pretty run of the mill action game

>>714451602
there's a library of ick on eck webms specifically with imsims on his steamie deck