Is it really better than all 3D Zelda?

huh? who told you that?

>>714445968
lookie here >>714366671

>>714446475
>anime poster
opinion instantly discarded

>>714446475
that nigga is trolling retard

So this the dark siders thread? finally maybe this will be answered and I finally found a kino adventure game to play
>"Darksiders 2 was filled with a depressingly empty waste of time overworld with the most lazily gated content I've ever seen in a game, garbage rewards, and quests that 90% of the time amount to fetch quests. And in dungeons the game spams shitty combat encounters that feel the exact same every time. Spam shitty meaningless combos, with combos rarely ever having any difference in substance beyond visual flair and occasionally dodge attacks that track to a ridiculous degree. Then there's the traversal with the braindead modern day "climb to obviously unnatural indented wooden ledge in wall and then press (A) and follow the next unnatural indented ledge. Its superficial traversal. Traversal that pretends you're actually doing anything because you're pressing buttons, but you're actually just following a trail of breadcrumbs from point to point like you're playing "connect the dots". And finally, when there actually IS a puzzle there are like 1 to 3 throughout the entire dungeon. But I want to say, I don't think I've played a puzzle game where "this is the only thing I can do, so it is what I will do" has been ever more true than in this game. I was wondering why some of the puzzles in this game didn't feel satisfying and I think it's because a lot of times I solved the puzzle because it was all I could do at times. There's more to be said about the puzzles but I'm running out of space."
Everything in the greentext is my condensed thoughts on DarkSiders 2. I admittedly never finished the game because of these problems and never made it out of the first world. I would like somebody to tell me why I am wrong if it really is true that DarkSiders 2 is better than any zelda game. Because I also agree that every zelda game is mostly trash and can be done better theoretically

nobody is a REAL fan of this game, just childhood nostalgia used to feel better than zelda because you played it before zelda

Essayfag detected in thread. >>714446929

Fuck off and cut your nails.

>>714447720
mentally ill obsessive delusional retard, off topic bullshit that doesnt even have anything to do with me or the thread, get reported retard!

lol

Horse

kek

What is this schizo thread?

>>714445578 (OP)
yeah, but it's not a high bar to reach

>>714445578 (OP)
I thought 2 was shit. 1 was decent. Have yet to play 3.

>>714450336
>but it's not a high bar to reach
zelda that bad? then why is it so glazed

>>714445578 (OP)
DarksidersPhill

>>714451587
what dat mean...

>>714445578 (OP)
It's got loot shit for no reason and they ran out of money, but it's still really good. First 2 acts are great; the setting and music are sublime.

>>714451504
it's not that bad, it's just okay imo, nothing special
No idea what makes it so popular outside of being old so fags who grew up with it think it's a 10/10 adventure because they didn't play anything else

>>714445578 (OP)
it has worse level design, combat and pacing.

as an aside the artstyle is incredibly ugly

>>714451809
ironic to say something like that when it's pretty clear you likely didn't start properly playing vidya until the 2010s

>>714451504
It does reach the bar of being a very decent game. I feel nothing when someone says a crpg is better/worse than zelda they're saying a cool game is better than another cool game its very subjective.

>>714445578 (OP)
I beat 1 and 3 but I could not finish 2. I don't know why.

>>714446929
>I admittedly never finished the game because of these problems
you don't even finish the games that you like. you still haven't beaten death stranding despite all of your praise. you don't finish things because you have the attention span of a gnat.

>>714452082
I don't see the irony here

>>714451992
>it has worse level design, combat and pacing.
I agree with all this, accept by "worse" Id mean, it has exactly as shit level design, combat and pacing as 3D zelda, the only difference is that every single 3D zelda game will have atleast one good puzzle or dungeon in the first half of the game. Ive yet to encounter that in DarkSiders 2
(imagine thinking 3D zelda has good level design btw, how dumb of a person would you have to be to play the game with your brain turned off)

its underrated kino

anybody watch that whitelight video on the game?

Its kinda ass
The environments are just uninspired and shitty, it all blends together in this weird warhammer 40k blobmass
Seen plenty of other games that suffer from this too, code vein has the same issue, probably a lot worse even, aleast until you reach the totally not anor londo of that game

Anyone who likes Darksiders 1 is a retarded nostalgiafag

2=3 > Genesis >>>> dogshit > AIDS > The Last of Us 2 > 1

2 and 3 are great for entirely different reasons and I could recommend one or the other to certain people depending on their tastes. 3 on Ravager difficulty is one of my favorite Souls clones while Darksiders 2 is one of the best Diablo/Zelda/Warrior Within clones you can get your hands on.

It's hard for me to rate Genesis objectively because it's a great 2 player co-op game and you don't need to know anything about the series to enjoy it (it's also my first entry because it was co-op)

1 is objectively dogshit and I can name a ton of reasons, whether it's the pisspoor combat which is stupid easy, the really bad items (the horn), the bad level design (no room for the horse and the fact that the game world isn't as cleverly designed as Darksiders 3 by leading back into shortcuts or even has a decent fast travel system like 2). It's also the shortest game with the most filler (the shitty fucking sword pieces and the mask, kek) The only thing saving 1 from being one of the worst games I ever played was the puzzles, but 2 and 3 are full of them so you don't need to play 1 and you can just get by by watching it's cutscenes on YouTube.

The biggest and funniest cope I've seen from fans of 1 is that "the series is all bad!"... yeah no.

>>714458342
And just as a point of comparison of 2 > 1

Here's an example

Fast travel in the first game
>Game has waypoints that are dotted over the world that you unlock
>Some of them are poorly placed on the world map, meaning they're not exactly convenient for where you want to go
>You have to run through a shitty little ethereal tunnel with load times to get to a spot on the map you might not even want, because again, badly designed maps and waypoint placement
>Due to the poor level design, the horse can't go most places, making it a useless addition

Fast travel in DS2
>You open your map and select a destination and you're there
>The world is actually well designed and the horse can go 99% of places

Anybody who likes 1 is the actual contrarian here

>>714445578 (OP)
lol no

>>714458342
>>714458535
Its crazy how you tards always blatantly ignore criticism to just affirm what you already believe like bots.
Hard to think theres any real non delusional merit to Darksiders 2

>>714458806
He'll never address the criticism because he can't /v/ is just a circlejerk board whenever it can be. It feigns being "critical" by being negative and contrary to modern gaming, but that isnt the same as being open to and engaging in criticism to bolster understanding.

>>714458535
>>The world is actually well designed and the horse can go 99% of places
This is no place for a horse

Darksiders carried the zelda torch now that classic zelda is dead

>>714459994
kek gotten, knew that nigga was embelleshing because I remember the horse not only being fucking wonky to control in general but also struggling to get him to some places

>>714445578 (OP)
It was a surprisingly good game. Not sure if better than Zelda but it can definitely hold its own against them. Probably depends on your taste what you prefer.

>>714460931
>It was a surprisingly good game.
Surprisingly good as in, expected a 6/10 and got an 8? Or Surprisingly good as in expected a 7/10 and got an 8.5?

Lootshit ruins it

>>714446929
I skimmed this, I have zoomer attention span.

Are you asking for someone to convince you Darksiders 2 is actually good? It is not. I say this as a day 1 Darksiders 1 and 2 buyer. DS1 was like a solid 6-7/10. Cool art style, fun voice actors (Mark Hamill + Liam O'Brien), that's about it. DS2 is just more of that but less interesting environments - which is impressive because 1's environments weren't special to begin with - really bland "collect 3" puzzles, an extremely lengthy and boring underworld section, and the world's worst, most boring final boss. I cannot stress enough how much of a letdown 2's final boss was compared to 1's, it's an actual travesty

Idk where this revisionism that 2 is a good Zelda clone came from but it is not. It is a bland game hard carried by yet again a baller main character design + his VA. It's not worth coming back to

>>714446929
>Everything in the greentext is my condensed thoughts on DarkSiders 2. I admittedly never finished the game because of these problems and never made it out of the first world. I would like somebody to tell me why I am wrong if it really is true that DarkSiders 2 is better than any zelda game. Because I also agree that every zelda game is mostly trash and can be done better theoretically
Everything you just put in greentext applies to all 3d zeldas.

Honestly God of War 1 is a better Zelda game than most Zeldas.

>>714445578 (OP)
no

>>714461504
People always misunderstand me when I criticize. Yes, nothing I said would not apply to every single 3D zelda ever. That is why I despise the series like no other. For crushing a unique unbridled potentiality to expresses in its most well structured and designed moments, that it cannot consistently hold onto because it is a game that doesn't actually know what to write. All it knows is the generic layout of "Thesis, Opening Paragraph, Supporting Sentences, Middle Paragraph Supporting Sentences, and Conclusion Paragraph, restate the thesis with the context provided in opening and middle paragraph".

If you understand what i mean by that analogy then you understand.

I like zelda games but I hate the games. I am enamored and still captured by the idea of what they could be if they were remotely consistent and intentionally designed.

There is nothing else like it. There is no game, centered around acquiring a unique set of items and abilities to be used to MANIPULATE, affect and alter the environment, to organically solve problems in the way, in a structured enclosed enviroment where a specific ability or item can be explored thoroughly in a number of its potential applications to ultimately in the end paint a picture that brings all those potentials together to instill a new understanding in you of the ways in which such a simple item can be used to interact with the environment. I call it recontexualization.

Technically speaking I could tolerate all the same flaws Darksiders has from zelda. IF i knew without a shadow of a doubt that its dungeons were able to output a consistent quality of puzzles that cannot easily be reduced to rock paper scissors.

Use the correct tool. To get rid of the relevant problem. Paper beats Scissors. Arrow beats Eye switch. Block beats pressure plate. Torch beats web. Fire arrow beats ice. etc etc. The puzzles need to develop and add on new factors each time that make you utilize the abilities and or items in unique ways

>>714445578 (OP)
No, I don't think so. I liked it all in all though

>>714462428
>For crushing a unique unbridled potentiality to expresses in its most well structured and designed moments, that it cannot consistently hold onto because it is a game that doesn't actually know what to write
apparently you don't either, this is word salad.
>All it knows is the generic layout of "Thesis, Opening Paragraph, Supporting Sentences, Middle Paragraph Supporting Sentences, and Conclusion Paragraph, restate the thesis with the context provided in opening and middle paragraph".
also word salad.
>If you understand what i mean by that analogy then you understand.
An analogy compares two things, you might want to try rethinking your entire premise.
>I like zelda games but I hate the games. I am enamored and still captured by the idea of what they could be if they were remotely consistent and intentionally designed.
You want what's in your head to be the game rather than face reality.
>There is nothing else like it. There is no game, centered around acquiring a unique set of items and abilities to be used to MANIPULATE, affect and alter the environment, to organically solve problems in the way, in a structured enclosed enviroment where a specific ability or item can be explored thoroughly in a number of its potential applications to ultimately in the end paint a picture that brings all those potentials together to instill a new understanding in you of the ways in which such a simple item can be used to interact with the environment. I call it recontexualization.
You want a game that cannot exist and even if it did would be an amalgam of pure shit. A game is only a game if it has rules.
>Technically speaking I could tolerate all the same flaws Darksiders has from zelda. IF i knew without a shadow of a doubt that its dungeons were able to output a consistent quality of puzzles that cannot easily be reduced to rock paper scissors.
This is confused and meaningless.
You're autistic (low functioning) or a pseudointellectual.

>>714462757
Oh its this retard stalker hater i put a rolls eyes emoji after that and you cant even see it just did it again

>>714459994
>>714460070
The horse literally can't go most places in 1.

>>714445578 (OP)
I played that game for two hours and thought it was shit way back when. I even gifted it to a cousing.

>>714462947
>Oh its this retard stalker hater i put a rolls eyes emoji after that and you cant even see it just did it again
No one would ever bother to "stalk" you, you're an unintelligent subhuman.

>>714462428
Wow what an honest passion filled post Darksiders 2...somewhat applies

>>714464384
bot?

>>714445578 (OP)
things I dont like:
shit end game boss, no proper sequels(DS3 had a tight budget and soulslopped)

>>714446929
not reading the ramblings of a madman

>>714464906
How do you know its ramblings of a mad man without even having read it?

>>714461806
Nigga it has like 4 puzzles for the entire game.

>>714458342
DS1 is kino. TLDR. faggot(YOU). yes YOU(YOU).

>>714446929
tell me, anon, what game or movie do you actually consider to be GOOD or even GREAT and not "generic slop" or whatever?

>>714458342
>>714458535
1 is pretty rough in the execution, but they clearly learned some things and improved in the sequels. however, i still had fun, and think its a pretty cool experience DESPITE the bundles of inconvenience. kind of like shining force 1 vs shining force 2.

>>714462428
>There is nothing else like it. There is no game
only a sheltered retard that doesnt actually play games would think this.

>>714446702
>>714446730
i wasn't trolling you're just a stupid tranny too young to appreciate actual good games instead of woke slop

>>714462428
>MANIPULATE, affect and alter the environment, to organically solve problems in the way, in a structured enclosed enviroment where a specific ability or item can be explored thoroughly in a number of its potential applications to ultimately in the end paint a picture that brings all those potentials together to instill a new understanding in you of the ways in which such a simple item can be used to interact with the environment.
>not easily be reduced to rock paper scissors.
lmfao, can you even articulate into words a specific tool and set of scenarios that fits this, even theoretically? to truly explain what you mean? i sincerely doubt that you can.

>essayfag and cheevo contrarian in the same thread at once
hate to see it

>>714446929
This anon is correct, the entire game is a shitty fetch quest where you collect 3 keys to go to 3 dungeons to collect 3 things in each dungeon to unlock a door behind which are 3 areas with 3 enemy types, 3 dungeons and 3 bosses
Pic related was the funniest moment of the game for me, because it's literally THE errand boy simulator

>>714471506
>all this wrong information
retarded zoomer

>>714471558
bro, i LIKE the game (because its a fun GAME and experience) but that is pretty accurately what the core design of progression is.

however, the only thing he really got wrong was saying that essayfag is "correct". essayfag will never be correct, because he's a reductive autist that makes up his mind before ever touching something, utterly refusing to see any alternate perspective on anything. also, since he doesnt actually play games or even remotely understand what the concept of "fun" is, his opinions are largely invalid to begin with. "but i've played X game to completion" or "i played until Y part" is not an argument in his regard, because he isnt actually PLAYING a game, he's pushing buttons in the sequences he's expected to by the designers, while autisticly scrutinizing the things happening on the screen for some sort of deeper meaning in the grand design of it all. he doesnt PLAY games.

>>714445578 (OP)
I am glad tendiecultists got so mad they had to spawn an entire thread just because i said the greatest adventure game of all time isn't So ylda
Darksiders II is still the king baby, anyone saying otherwise is clearly a contrariannigger or zoomer.

>>714472312
its a solid game, but there are a LOT of areas that it could be improved upon.

zelda is extremely overrated

>>714445578 (OP)
yes