It's time to make the switch

If MS would be smart they would just port XP and 7 shell into the current kernel.

>>714479592 (OP)
Nah. I like to be able to use my computer.

Only when linus developers stop being autistic and bend the knee to an average user.
i.e. never

>>714479592 (OP)
Already did. I love Linux Mint and Wine

>>714480525
They did.
With Android.

>>714479592 (OP)
Yeah, I'm already started fucking around with Ubuntu, but I will test out a few other distros until I find what fits best.

With how many people Microsoft is firing and how many jeets they are importing to replace them I have no trust in Windows 11 onward. Windows 10 was already shitty enough with the constant unending USB driver issues.

>>714480525
Its called Ubuntu

if you have brainrot like me then I strongly urge anyone considering switching to turn around and never think about your OS again or you will enter a hell of changing your OS every other week for the rest of your life. Just walk the fuck away from it right now.

>ios, android and windows fall over themselves trying to appease the user and make ui more intuitive
>meanwhile ubuntu: "you have to install apps through command line"

>>714479592 (OP)
Anyone who tried 11 and didn't quit Windows on the spot has problems.

>>714479592 (OP)
Stop shilling linux. People who want to make the switch will do it on their own.

>>714480831
Flathubs couldn't make it any easier. It is a literal app store.

>willingly having a microjeet os installed
KEKAROOO

>>714479592 (OP)
I did, I'm on a debloated Windows 11 Pro install right now.

>>714479592 (OP)
i have tried and it is not good enough people say it is because i have nvidia gpu but i have a feeling if i bought amd it would not be much better

>>714480831
the only right decision
desktop linux sucks ass. I work professionally with linux, but only on servers.
Moving over from Windows only makes you join a civil war. Linuxfags want to be elitist and at the same time want everyone to move over.

When something doesn't work with Windows everyone blames windows, even if it's an user error its because its not intuitive or properly explained or why doesn't the system does this automatically. When you have an issue on Linux you are getting blamed for everything.

>>714479592 (OP)
i dont want to learn every single extension for files all over again
windows works on my machine

>>714480831
ubuntu LITERALLY comes with snap store nigga

>>714479592 (OP)
worse performance, bugs, and completely unfriendly support/other users make linux a pain to use.
It's only because I hate corpo microsoft more, but god linux is a pain to use.

>>714479592 (OP)
You can't force people to switch to linux. If they're not switching on their own, they're not ready.

>>714482190
>>When something doesn't work with Windows everyone blames windows, even if it's an user error its because its not intuitive or properly explained or why doesn't the system does this automatically. When you have an issue on Linux you are getting blamed for everything.
holy shit this.
Every single time
>DAMN why don't people use linux
>well we have these and these issues with linux
>those are not issue with linux, its your fault, everything is your fault, nothing is ever linux fault
>damn, linux has no faults but people still don't want to use it, what gives
I swear this tard behavior is impossible to deal with

>>714482783
>worse performance
Literally the opposite
>bugs
Such as...?
>and completely unfriendly support
So you never tried looking up windows errors only to find Microsoft forum where master pajeet tells you to kindly reboot your pc saar?
Only NPCs use winblows

>>714483351
here we go, you can already see the denial and the attitude.
literally 100% what I described and this faggot comes here and acts exactly like I said.
It's even more hilarious when you consider they are doing it to "prove me wrong" by literally proving my point for me.

>>714480790
Nah. I have been on kubuntu for like 3 years now. Comfiest time of my life.

>>714480790
I just moved to mint and it's been great, see no reason to switch. Sure there's little things that I wish were better, but I just figure they're all going to have their quirks and it's still way better than anything past W7.

tried it and it's a piece of shit with zero support and finicky as fuck

>>714479592 (OP)
I figured out if you completely block kike spyware on microsoft they completely lock you out of updates on their server and it requires a complete reinstall, i didn't realise that my OS was still on the 2nd version of windows 11.

Looks like you can stop windows updates and use it forever.

>>714480790
learn code and make your own distro

>>714482190
>When you have an issue on Linux you are getting blamed for everything
Because Linux' final user is the one supposed to do everything.
Which is why it's better to stick to Windows if you just want to use your computer and don't want to spend all your time coding the OS and thinkering with it.

>>714483486
>asked to elaborate
>plays victim
classic baby duck

>Bazzite already being dropped
LOL lmao

>>714482271
>Learn file extensions
>They're exactly the same
????

>>714485027
There is a reason everybody is screaming not to install meme fotm offshoot distros. If you're not using fedora, arch, or gentoo you're doing it wrong.

>>714485014
>he keeps proving my point.
genuinely, I though it must be microsoftsaars shitposting as linux users based on how utterly toxic they are to anybody trying to get into using linux, but not, turns out it really is just linux users being delusional cunts that divert any problem with linux into "it's the users fault"

>consider the switch
>get recommendations for 53 different distros all with their own quirks
>still installing stuff autistically from the command line
>nvidia drivers still bad

Windows 10 it is.

>>714483486
>no argument

>>714485129
>fried install linux
>every extension is different, doc are not doc , dll are not dll, exe are not exe, etc
>he has to install and update everything from a console where every call is different than the cmd of windows
seemed like a chore

>>714485027
qrd???

>>714480831
>has never opened ubuntu

I switched to 11 and it's fine. You have to decrapify it a bit like you do all Windows, but after that I've literally had no problems.

>>714485897
fedora wanted to drop 32 libraries so the bazzite guy said he may drop it but people chimped out and they withdrew the proposal so i think it will continue

>>714482783
>worse performance
Reality says otherwise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajVvu9M2Y-I

>>714479592 (OP)
>It's time to make the switch

i'm gonna be straight up; not moving onto mac with apple silicone kind of makes you a mouth breather at this point.

When a majority of devs start making games for native apple silicone, sony and nintendo are going to lose their ass because, at that point, nearly every houshold will have an apple device capable of playing powerful games.

>>714479592 (OP)
I don't wanna learn terminal
I don't wanna be active in Linux circles
I don't wanna gamble if a game I like works and hear "that's a shit game" as only response
I don't wanna hear over and over again that I installed wrong distro and should move to Fedora, Debian, or Arch to get something working
And I don't want to buy AMD when I got 4080 two years ago

Especially I want to be sure Slippi Melee works. Heard from one player how he couldn't play on his Linux for a month after Slippi update, and couldn't get practice for his regional. I don't want that to happen.
I just want to doubleclick .exe and it just werks.

>>714485459
>proves my point
>still asks for argument
huh?

>>714486203
I don't care what some video on youtube claims when I tested games myself and it runs worse on linux, more importantly not just stable worse, but suttery, buggy type of worse.
Sure you will get lucky with some of the games running fine, but it's simply unacceptable for huge portion of games being suddenly a stuttery mess because of linux.

>>714480373
>If MS would be smart they would just port XP and 7 shell into the current kernel.
MS is staffed primarily by jeets.

Not going until it supports adobe and online games

>>714482190
The last time I tried Linux I found a very obvious bug, pointed it out, and was told that it had been that way for years and probably wasn't going to get fixed anytime soon.

>>714481059
>app store
Lmao dictating what users can install
Might aswell get ios

>>714486151
>so the bazzite guy said he may drop it but people chimped out
Makes sense, it would be ridiculous for a gaming distro to drop support for Steam.

>>714479592 (OP)
But the Switch has already been made. In fact, we're already up to the Switch 2!

>>714486293
Truth Nvke
Playing on Linux is gambling if you can enjoy your game or not, what a mess

>>714480373
>If MS would be smart they would implement a feature that less than 0.001% of users would use.

>>714479592 (OP)
I just don't like it and don't understand it and you can't make me switch. Haha I just won't be switching is all. Sorry, nigger!

>>714486601
Every game I tested out worked fine.

>>714486203
>Click on video
>Is always an AMD GPU
Of course, now show up the popular GPU company, Nvidia
I hate Linux turds always hiding that every video about better performance in Troonix is using an AyyMD GPU, fucking vermins

>>714480373
I get why a Windows user might want that, but how would that be smart for the Microsoft Corporation who are in the business of increasing shareholder value?
They wouldn't be able to charge OEMs more for that, OEMs would be less likely to sell new PCs with new Windows licenses because the system requirements wouldn't increase, they wouldn't be able to data-mine the users due to the lack of built-in spyware, and they would lose all that advertising money.

>>714482190
HWinfo64.
Linux has nothing like it and it speaks volumes to me how fucking low quality linux is.

>>714479592 (OP)
Linux is a hobby project maintained by hippies and trannies. It's even less secure than Windows.

>>714487850
okay? And if I say
>every game I tested didn't work
then what?

>>714487869
best part proves only that AMD drivers are shit. that even community made drivers are better.

>>714487869
Your fault and only fault alone for buying hardware with bad drivers universally.

>>714482190
>Linuxfags want to be elitist and at the same time want everyone to move over.
pretty much, you want linux to be popular? then you have to aim for the casual user literally never opening a terminal

>>714479592 (OP)
1. there's no mspaint equivalent. trust me I tried them all.
2. The only way to play a game with HDR support is to boot directly into steam big picture. The support is still experimental and doesn't work for nvidia.
3. all the installers for all linux distros are bad and have bugs
4. audio device management sucks

Other than that switching has been good but I am also an expert linux user already from other things.

>>714488029
Skill issue

>>714486239
>silicone

>>714487941
It runs the entire internet you dumb piece of shit. 99% of all internet sites and services you interact with are running on Linux servers

>>714479592 (OP)
Switched 3 years ago to Manjaro and haven't had a single problem ever since, and only ever had to use the console once to solve a SillyTavern problem but nothing system related despite using it everyday

>>714488678
Ever heard of Azure?

>>714488461
same old song and dance
>linux so good
>no it isnt
>linux so good but nobody knows how to use it skill issue, linux is perfect

>>714488708
and videogames you played on it are?

>>714488843

I'm just saying but Linux users are not being honest about the cons of being a Linux user, and there are many.

>>714488290
Nta but some people don't have problem with their nvidia cards. It's bit silly to expect people to drop multiple hundreds of dollars for a new graphics card of different brand so they could use "the better* os**"

*Might run some games worse or not run them at all
**You installed the wrong distro you fucking retard didn't you know that Ubuntu is better for x***
***Well of course if you for some retarded reason need to run y****, then use Linux Mint sheesh you idiot wintroon do you need handholding with everything???
****Shit game/program anyway so dunno why you want to play/use that, you should play/use z because it's better

>>714480790
Distrohopping is a phase almost everyone goes through until they ultimately settle on something they like and stay there.
>>714488361
1. Considering Windows 7+ doesn't even have the good old MS Paint I somehow highly doubt that. Windows 11 is even worse and has a piece of shit reimplementation instead.
2. Gamescope is not booting steam big picture mode. Technically, nothing is stopping you from dropping to a VT and running the game directly; Steam is not actually needed. You're right that it's horribly broken on NVidia, but that's NVidia's fault as usual.
3. Imagine needing an installer and not just using pacstrap, debootstrap or untarring a stage3. Lmao.
4. Can't argue that, it's still absolute shit after 20 years unfortunately. I still use a plain ALSA dmix configuration and skip pulseaudio and pipewire entirely. The only audio daemon I can stand is sndio which is ported from BSD.

>>714489018
All of these, plus a lot of non steam games like black souls, WoW, WoT, dofus, wakfu, etc, etc without a problem

>>714489309
That's a whole lot of cope for a brand that has had bad drivers on Windows for years now. Be smarter next time, if you can.

I used Arch for years but Nvidia drivers at the time didn't work well with multi-GPU. I'd like to try it again but configuring it to even find out if it works well now would take all day.

>>714480831
Ubuntu had an app store back in 2006, way before Mac, Windows, and Android did. Its literally the first thing that pops up after you log in for the first time.

>>714489459
I have never had problem with NVIDIA. Last time I had anything AMD was their processor and it had trouble with running TF2.
But hey, sorry for not having correct card. See you in like 4-5 years when I'm maybe changing my 4080 to AMD card and I'll see if I have any reason to move to Linux. Maybe you don't have to gamble if games or programs work but as stuff I like is "bad", I doubt so.

>>714489454
Here is some of the games from the top of my head that ran like garbage on linux, that is to say performance was lower but also SUTTERING.
>pacific drive
>returnal
>tainted grail fall of avalon
>The alters
there is some other games I Had issues with, such as the typical cutscenes not working or some other shit. But these ones are the most broken and most recent on my mind.

>>714479592 (OP)
I already switched to 11, every single FOSS project has Windows binaries anyways. Desktop Linux is simply not usable

>>714480790
It's not really a problem if your home and root folders are on separate partitions.

>>714489932
>I suffer from brand loyalty so severe I'm rocking Intel at their worst and ignore widely documented issues
I'd pity you if you weren't a flippant bitch. Farewell and don't come back.

Nobara with kde works really well but fedora might disable x86 (and steam needs it since it's 32bit) so can't recommend it now

>>714480373
If they were smart they’d make a barebones version of Windows without all the ads, tracking and bloat.
Gaming is the only reason I haven’t already switched to Linux, but since it has now improved drastically I’m basically ready to switch when Windows 10 end of support happens.

>>714490579
>Windows without all the ads, tracking and bloat.
Then how would they make money selling your data? Didn't think of that, did you?

>>714490004
Sorry I haven't played any of those so can't speak from personal experience, but my experience with Manjaro has been flawless up to now and has never disappointed me

>>714479592 (OP)
switched to Gayzzite recently
and damn shit is pretty much same as on Pajeetdows
i dont play multiplayer slop so all my games work

>>714479592 (OP)
The day microjeet put mentally-ill faggot flags in my desktop against my consent is the day I installed linux.
Been happy with Arch ever since.

Microshit can fuck themselves, they told me windows 10 was forever

Is this actually worth using past the meme value?

>>714490660
I did. I just don’t want them to sell my data.

>>714490751
If you have to ask, no.

>>714479592 (OP)
Wasnt it originally to end in october? So for how long did they extend it?

>>714490669
yeah okay but if your experience is "browsing the net" then it really doesn't say much.
Same thing for what kind of games or how many you play.
Or what programs you use.

I am not impressed "I opened paint in linux and it worked, linux runs flawlessly" type of statements.
I want something that either applies to my use case, or a very broad and big comparison that covers my use case as well.

These isolated tests are "I don't give a fuck" tier for my needs.

>>714490751
no but i did enjoy installing it

>>714490751
Absolutely not at all. It's a meme for a reason.
Even the mr john gnu himself said he hates that shit and doesn't understand why people associate it with him.

>>714489357
You can just download the old MS Paint you know that right?

>>714490751
Memes aside, the main reason you'd use Gentoo at this point is USE flags or the fact that it makes a really good software development environment compared to most distros.
Technically it can outperform every other Linux distro by several percent if you know what you're doing, but it's a lot of effort and manual work. Despite memes saying that's the appeal, it really isn't. It's a control freak distro, not a performance distro.

>>714479592 (OP)
Honestly, if you're not a developer and you use linux, you're a stupid monkey

i switched yesterday but its still more effort for less performance so ill likely just go back to windows

>>714490294
>Brand loyalty
Ffs. Can't you read?
I don't have money to drop multiple hundreds of dollars for a new graphics card only to switch on os/distro that might not run games and programs I play/use. It has nothing to do with brand loyalty. I simply don't have money nor time to go through 8 different distros + learn terminal shit that only manages to get me terminal cancer at best. And no, I don't think W10 is some kind of best OS, I just tolerate it because it runs games and programs I want.
It is tiring with Linux users to explain that people may not want to hop on completely new OS that might not work for them. Or especially drop hundreds of dollars so they can even fucking run it.
I will repeat one more time so you fucking get it.

NOT ALL PEOPLE HAVE MONEY TO SWITCH THEIR HIGH-END NVIDIA CARD TO A HIGH-END AMD CARD ON THE SPOT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BRAND LOYALTY. SOME MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN THEIR CARD FOR RELATIVELY CHEAP AT THE MOMENT.
I REPEAT.
NOT EVERYONE HAS MONEY TO CHANGE TO AMD CARD ON THE SPOT.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BRAND LOYALTY.

Did that help?

>>714490751
Only if you enjoy the combustibility it offers. Its like Arch, but without precompiled binaries

Man I'm just now remembering windows forums where every useless answer was prefaced with a paragraph's-worth of empty pleasantries and no solution was ever actually provided in thousands upon thousands of posts, and thinking that people of the same calibre are now in charge of injecting as much liquid shart into Windows 11 and soon 12.

>>714491269
You'll regret it when W11 EOLs and AI recall is mandatory in whatever is forced next.
Better to cut off the cancer now.

>>714491373
Actually not true anymore, gentoo does in fact provide binaries nowadays but only for the default set of USE flags per-profile

>>714491369
Why don't you just run the easiest distros available in a virtual machine and see if they work, like Manjaro and Mint which don't even need any kind of console work and have UIs for everything. Manjaro even has a really light install which is like 30mb so it takes 0 time to setup on a VM for testing

>>714491683
Gentoo always provided some binaries, but you're gonna be compiling stuff too

>>714491369
>rusting CPU owner babble
Your setup is shit -on Windows-.

Indians and AI could fuck up Windows so hard that linux distros become the better option even in their current state. A terrifying prospect.

I'll go with 10 LTSC, I'm too lazy to learn how to properly use Linux

>>714479592 (OP)
Ive been on win 11 since covid and have so many issues

>Kubuntu
>Manjaro
>Fedora
What are the pros and cons of each assuming they use the same desktop environment?

For years I've checked if the fight between Wayland and X11 is over, and yet it's still a shit show and full on war.

>>714491704
>Why don't you just run the easiest distros
S i g h
Because I have RTX 4080. No, I'm not gonna buy even a cheap AMD card just to try it.
I'm tired of this. Nonstop Linux users keeps saying how it's wrong that I have nvidia card instead of amd and that I should change because you can't run shit in Linux with nvidia. But still keeps pushing Linux even when I say I don't have amd card. I just don't want to throw insults but I gotta say this is getting retarded.
Like what's the idea of screaming how nvidia is bad and I should switch because you can't run linux with it but then anyway push linux on me? Are these bots or something?

>>714492289
Well it would be shit on Linux. Follow the reply chain.
Well you won't and will keep throwing some insults anyway. Fuck this, I'll just go grind Melee. At least it runs on Windows.

>>714493164
It will be forever war since wayland has design flaw that X users dont want

>>714479592 (OP)
waiting on steamos desktop release

>>714489357
>Considering Windows 7+ doesn't even have the good old MS Paint I somehow highly doubt that.
wdym? I have it right here on win10

>>714487039
I thought linux was based precisely because shit like that could get fixed by the community

>>714484898
Blocking updates is the only way to use windows nowadays. Just the other day my friend complained that he and his brother had had software randomly uninstalled from their PCs. Windows update acts like literal malware.

>>714487480
Don't they have anything like fullscreenizer for linux?

>>714494370
came here to post this

90% of the time regular people turn on a computer is to use the Microsoft Office Suite. Everything else they just do on their phone (YouTube, social media, emails).

So why would they install an operating system without the main thing they use their computer for? (Microsoft office)

>>714479592 (OP)
>It's time to make the switch
this after BA steam launch I have no reason to stick with windows, unless I plan to play Rust in the future.

>>714495818
office works in a browser now

>>714495818
Just to add to this, I still think Linux has a place. I use it on old as fuck laptops that can't run windows anymore. Linux Mint works smooth as fuck.

Whenever Valve shits out a proper SteamOS made for pc ill consider switching

>>714496057
Soon™

>>714496057
I need this brand of retard to understand, steamOS is just arch+kde. There is nothing special about it and it doesn't not offer any kind of extensive system support that steam itself doesn't already provide if you're using it outside of the steamdeck itself.

>>714497406
Everyone says installing arch is an ordeal. Bet you SteamOS will be easy as pie.
>umm no just follow the ins-
shut the fuck up

>>714497614
>Arch provides the exact same guided walkthrough as windows
>It's too complicated to type "archinstall"
????

>>714497696
I preempted this comment.

>>714497406
Valve has an incentive to cater to the gamer audience and make it as smooth as possible. End of w10 support is a significant opportunity for them to gain users. I'm hoping it will be good.

>>714497772
with retard babble

>>714479592 (OP)
>it’s time to transition into a woman
You do you sister. But for those who who actually want a usable operating system that just works, we’ll be riding with W11.

>>714481194
There's literally no alternative.

>>714497850
You're just so predictable with your shilling. People complaining by definition means that the ux is bad. You can't argue with that, yet you try anyways because you're terminally autistic.

>>714498139
>>714498139
>w11
>just works
lmao enjoy windows update fucking up drivers, randomly disappearing software and at worst bricking your pc

Yeah average retard who struggle to use Windows will install linux.

>>714498273
>2 more weeks and that will happen to you

>>714498265
Linux is not the software that runs on linux. Again, I'm sorry you're so assertively retarded.

>>714497406
>steamOS is just arch+kde
no, shit is pre-configured, i have used Arch for so long and on certain devices shit fucking sucks if you have to tinker yourself
for example on my ThinkPad that has some old ass nvidia quadro gpu trying to install and get working proprietary nvidia driver fucking sucks and barely works
>but muh nvidia
>use noveau
yeah retard if you want to have actual proper GPU acceleration and even do some light gaming on it you need that shitty driver because otherwise its just a dead-weight gpu, spent so long trying to get it to work only for it to barely work
on the other hand
>install CachyOS
>everything works out of the box
difference is with a proper OS package/distro shit comes pre configured so you dont have to tinker with every single thing and waste time which is what 99% of people want

>>714498323
They will. Look at >>714498273. He can't figure Windows out but he definitely enjoys grepping his sendmale.

>>714498376

>>714498457
you're not authorized to twist my post to benefit your microshilling

>>714498641
>literally marketing linux for LinuxCorp Inc.
>calls me a shill for letting him know he's a faggot

>>714490579
you can just get something like atlas os
runs way better and it's not troonix

>>714498323
thing is when an average retard actually gives linux a shot they tend to like to
saw this first hand with my cousin, he is the normiest of the normies, tech illiterate mfker, but he kept complaining about windows all the time because there was always something fucked up (which was most definitely his fault), kept talking about switching to mac
i told him to just try linux mint see and see if he likes it since its completely free
he did, was a shocked at how easy and intuitive it was to install but then got frustrated when trying to use it, but that forced him to actually learn how to google and look shit up, because he was motivated to not go back to windows
he says he couldnt be happier, his browser works (which is 80% of his computer usage), he plays mostly tycoon games so all of his games work, he said some work even better than on windows, not in terms of performance but in actual setup since some are older
so he couldnt be happier with it
i think its just how fed up with microshart your average normie is, if they are, they will switch, if they are cattle that will always find a new cope then they will stay on it

>>714498273
on linux, taking a screenshot bricks the file system and if I try to look at those screenshots, it instantly crashes my pc.
I've never had something like this on windows.

>>714499017
Something that a lot of linux evangelists don't understand is that Windows just works for some people.
>no it doesn't. what about X and Y and Z?
Works on my machine.™

>>714499327
listen i was a #1 windows user/shill whatever
used every windows version from 95 to 10
win 11 is where i honestly draw a line, loved Vista and 8 even though they were universally hated, didnt like ME that much, but windows has become a bloated garbage mess
it just werked for me all these years and i never thought i would switch to linux but things changed and they changed for a lot of people, and a lot of them just dont want to put up with microshit anymore

>>714480525
You can already open a fresh install and play games on steam without ever touching the terminal. The amount of UI love Linux has gotten over the past 5 years even is astounding.

>>714498323
Thing about Windows as of 10 is that it just doesn't fucking work. No one's struggling, the pile of shit is falling apart by itself under normal use. No one's pulling out powershell and tweaking shit to have updates delete their fucking files. No one's removing malware manually to have their Windows Update fucking brick with no error code. It just doesn't work, plain and simple.

>>714498973
How do I know they haven't injected their own spyware in there?

>>714499525
>all nonspecific
It works for me. I jumped from 7 to 11 because I was off planet in between those versions, and 11 is a huge improvement over 7 in the "just werks" department.

>>714499556
how do you know that linux isn't loaded with spyware?
after all, a known chinese national had made several thousand github contributions all across linux
atlas is open source

>>714490579
>If they were smart they’d make a barebones version of Windows without all the ads, tracking and bloat.
its called the LTSC version

>>714499836
>how do you know that linux isn't loaded with spyware?
Because I can ask an LLM to check all the code for me.

>>714499836
I don't know. I'm on windows and I know microsoft spies on me but I have done my best to disable all of that. I'm still spied on by google and probably a number of other software but that's the dystopia we live in.

>>714499642
>all nonspecific
you are a zoomer/gen a faggot and you never used windows 7
even the most normie Windows 10 users is of opinion that 11 is a bloated garbage mess
you're a faggot and should suck a penis

>>714499898
LLMs are retarded

>>714499916
Again, nonspecific. You don't actually have an argument. I'm also older than you will ever be (which means I could be 18).

>>714499836
all you can do is trust them

>>714479592 (OP)
i just use massdeep anyway and turn off all the bloated garbage in registry. it's not like I'm giving microsoft any money or data

I'll switch when linux is supported better

>>714499836
Because my distro downloads the files directly from the github and automatically verifies the keys.

>>714500025
and will only get better with time

>>714500031
sure pup
keep redeeming winjeet 11

>>714500202
two more weeks until they can figure out that a character doesn't need to take their pants off twice

>>714490004
You forgot to disable the compositor
it's the first thing that comes up in google when you search linux game stutter

>>714500385
>his characters don't wear atleast two pairs of pants

Already did. I even play VR games on Linux streaming my Quest 3. It works well. I don't think I'll ever switch back to windows.

>>714479592 (OP)
The thing is, I don't NEED MS's support. I would still be using Windows 7 if I could.

What kind of Linuxfag are you?

As "that guy that knows about computers" in my social and work circle, i wish Linux were a viable option but sadly it is not. I can sense how a lot of these people will reach me to try to either find a way to keep working their Windows 10 or make windows 11 work on their shitty computers because they wont buy new hardware. I fucking hate MIcrosoft...

>>714493398
>Nonstop Linux users keeps saying how it's wrong that I have nvidia card instead of amd and that I should change because you can't run shit in Linux with nvidia
first time i hear of this shit, and that retard you're replaying to might be a false flagging faggot
nvidia had issues in the past because of their fagginess with the drivers, but it works, out of the box now. you have 3 solid options for distro
Bazzite
Mint
CachyOS
all of them pretty much come with all the drivers and it just works
i have an RTX/Intel system and just recently switched to Bazzite, literally no issues and in some games i saw better performance compared to windows, but this was mostly in CPU/RAM heavy games as linux DE generally uses less resources compared to windows
do what you will but you have absolutely no need to buy an AyyMD gpu to be able to use linux

>>714501028
Linux from scratch.

>>714501028
Mint

>>714483025
i use linux and i approve of this message
i cant stand elitist faggots they legit need to be put into dirt
whenever i have an issue now i use shit like chatgpt to look it up because looking at forums can just give you brain aneurysm from these insufferable faggots
i guarantee you they are the number one reason that people dont want to deal with linux, they try it, something goes wrong, then they have to deal with those retards and just say fuck it and leave

>>714501028
Xubuntu, but I recently switched to MX

running Nobara Nvidya edition with a 4090. only tested Steam games. most defaults work great, but have some issues customizing settings, like enabling path tracing in Cyberpunk. CS2 works nearly perfectly, even with max settings

some consistent issues, but no major dealbreakers:
>KDE bug where moving the mouse around makes it grow in size. comical, doesn't really interfere with anything
>Brave interface glitches out when you maximize the window
>file chooser from mullvad browser has strange defaults, pain to dig through file system every time
>everything doesn't always scale nicely to 4K
>updates are a bit weird, not sure of best practices

biggest issue so far is some type of stuttering that randomly happens in games and makes them unplayable until I restart Steam/my PC, though it's only happened a handful of times. another issue is bluetooth stopped working with no discernible cause, but the fix involved me unplugging the power from my PSU for a minute, so don't think I can blame Linux.

stable diffusion was easy to install. yt-dlp works great. overall very satisfied.

>>714479592 (OP)
So for how long is it extended?

>>714501427
>or make windows 11 work on their shitty computers because they wont buy new hardware.
literally one click in rufus
dumb nigger

>>714503560
i know it, but it's fucking anoying being that guy and have to format and/or fix their shit...

>>714493398
Scott?

>>714497614
>is an ordeal
Ypu write "archinstall" and then choose Y or N a few times and it installs it for you, complete with desktop environment as well if you choose.

>>714489454
Does Fear & Hunger run well with Proton?

>>714503901
Have fun with your buggy as shit install lol.
You are better off religiously following the proper install guide and hoping for the best.

>>714503974
I didn't even need to use Proton with it, runs flawlessly right out of the box

Anyone have a take on Bazzite?

>>714499017
>he says he couldnt be happier, his browser works (which is 80% of his computer usage)
This is honestly an interesting point that I've been thinking about. The average person's computer use (if they even have one) is almost entirely through a browser plus some sort of Office setup (LibreOffice works fine) and then basic shit like your printer. The actual functionality of an OS may as well not exist to a person and it wouldn't matter what its built on so long as their favorite browser works. The average normie doesn't need anything windows actually provides and I think part of the reason MS is so insistent on their new shit clawing its way into your computer is to make people dependent on it so they don't realize windows does fuck all for them while costing an absurd price for a license.

>>714479592 (OP)
They're extending W10 support?

>>714504305
????
There's no Linux version for it, how did manage to run it without Proton?

>>714504437
Just downloaded it through Steam and pressed play???

>>714479592 (OP)
Lmfao

If you game on a PC you are missing out. You spend twice as much for a system you have to troubleshoot all on your own, while console kids just pop in a disc. Please abandon the platform before supporting it ends up actually profitable for the sandniggers pushing it.

>>714499017
You can give a winfag any linux distro with KDE and for the first 15 minutes they will probably say it works fine but eventually there will come a time where something that they normally use on windows is not easily installed on linux or not available whatsoever.

>>714504502
Ok, so it used the standard Proton by default, got it.

>>714504357
That's how I got a relative to use Linux as her PC choked hard running Windows. Helps she was already using OpenOffice at work but still, never had any trouble.

>>714500336
>still has nothing to say
You're a linux evangelist who doesn't even know what he's talking about, and you're a faggot.
>use linux
>"why? windows works fine"
>"ZOMG NOOB JEET SHILL GOY (ESPECIALLY GOY BECAUSE I'M NOT A GOY YOU GOY)"

>>714500095
>massdeep
what is this?

>>714502124
Does RTX voice/Nvidia Broadcast work on linux? I like how it takes out all the background noise from my mic.

>>714479592 (OP)
Nothing runs on Linux.
>B-but I spent a month tinkering with it to get a single game to run, so it's good!
Then some random bullshit came along and broke everything again, forcing you to repeat the cycle.
>B-
Personal computers were a mistake.

>In an interview with Rolling Stone, Gates said in regard to his faith: "The moral systems of religion, I think, are super important. We've raised our kids in a religious way; they've gone to the Catholic church that Melinda goes to and I participate in.
>Stallman was born March 16, 1953[9] in New York City, to a family of Jewish heritage.
>Linus Torvals has IP banned Russia from contributing to the Linux kernel
Erm, gonna stick to windows and not this jewish commie bullshit.

>SWITCH TO LINUX

AHHHHHHHHH NONE OF MY GAMES ARE WORKING!

>>714505250
name them

>>714500620
>You forgot to disable the compositor
No, I didn't.
What next, have I tried turning my pc on and off? Right? Making sure my power is plugged in?
Updating my drivers?
Dude, I've been trouble shooting linux for half a year now and it's honestly a pain.
Games either work, or they don't, or they work in a half broken state.
You have no control over fixing them, it's either it comes with a good compatibility for linux shit, or it's a broken mess you can't fix.
At best you will find other linuxtards whining about the same issues you have and nobody has any fixes to the issue.

normalfags embracing Linux would effectively destory Linux
you don't know what you're cheering for

>>714480373
what distro will give me that windows 7 feel?

>>714505215
If Gates had his way Windows would be a locked down ecosystem where everything you install comes through the Microsoft Store.

>>714486293
I really wish I could just handwave that away but it's all true.
Windows: Double click exe, click "next" until installed, click icon on desktop
LoonX:
1. Open Steam
2. Click "Add Non Steam Game"
3. Find the installer in the fucking shitty file picker, select it, "OK"
4. Confirm the game you're adding in the steam UI
5. locate the newly added launcher (that is named after your executable, including the .exe)
6. Right click it
7. Rename it to a more proper name
8. Configure it to use proton beause steam for whatever retarded reason tries to open .exe files with the steam linux runtime by default. It could auto-detect that since you're adding an .exe, but we don't do user friendlyness on Linux.
9. Finally launch it (pray it works)
10. Click "next" until installed"
11. Find game entry in steam again
12. Right click it
13. Change "target" so it no longer points to your installer, but the installed game launcher in somewhere deep in steam's architecture, somewhere in compdata, in a directory with a randomly generated name you'll never find. Of ourse proton can't just report the desktop icon the installer added to steam for you to auto-select it after the install, that would be too user friendly. Remember, we don't that on Linux.
14. Finally, you can play (if the game works). Don't make me explain the voodoo shit you have to do to get mods to work, or protontricks to run software in the same bottle, and let's ignore the fact that the game stick out like a sore thumb because it has no art or even an icon.

FUCK that. Fuck all of that.

>>714505552
>If
yeah we aren't talking about hypotheticals here, we are talking about how things are right now

>>714505130
>RTX voice
from what ive seen the driver support for this on linux exists but there is no official software like Broadcast unfortunately, there was a thread on developers.nvidia.com that stated that its in development for linux but i cant find it

>>714505631
You defend that kind of person. He's pulled all sorts of scummy kike shit over the years.

>>714499225
Same but this unironically happened me on Windows. Snipping tool is a time bomb disguised as a software.

>>714505586
if you are installing an .exe file its just easier to do it with Lutris since the process is pretty much the same as on windows, you maybe have one extra step and that is opening lutris
im not gonna lie it is different and does generally require few extra steps for windows games but for me that is fine since the overall experience of using the OS has been better

>>714505586
Use bottles, installing non-steam games into steam is an awful time for exactly the reasons you listed. All it takes is using Flatseal once to give bottles permissions to access your filesystem and then installing a game is easy.

>>714499225
what distro/DE?

>fall for the gaming on linux meme
>try to install an ubuntu 24.04 dualboot so i can try it out
>can't even do that. Get "system problem detected" popups during installation
>try installing proprietary software like nvidia drivers
>hours later and its not finished and I can't even tell if progress is being made

>>714505871
I guess that's an option now that it can use proton properly via UMU. But I remember the integration into steam being worse if you do that. There's still no free lunch.

>>714505958
Does that use Proton?

>>714505798
don't know about snipping. I used literally printscreen that automatically saves an images into some home folder or something.
I literally dare not open that folder because when I do, it crashes my linux system.
>>714505968
linux mint 23.1 virginia, if I remember correctly.

>>714505969
>ubuntu
he fell for the ubuntu meme
i understand your frustration and pain anon, as i mentioned in a post before i highly recommend one of these 3
>Bazzite
>Mint
>CachyOS
they all come pretty much pre-configured and with all the drivers

>>714506025
ProtonGE can be enabled in Bottles or installed via ProtonQt. Its the same thing just with the steam runtime stuff stripped out more or less

>>714505969
no hwinfo64 on linux makes me shake my head.
Or sysinternals process explorer.
Those two programs on windows make it so easy to have an overview of my pc in every way that I need.
Yet on linux is a pipe dream to have something as good as that.

>>714505631
No we aren't.

>>714506269
I see. So is it like lutris, exept speialized into installing games from .exes rather than lutris which tries to do everything?

>>714506147
>linux mint 23.1 virginia
interesting because had issues with mint just a few days ago when trying to install it on a laptop, the whole install shitted itself for some reason and couldnt connect to the servers to download the necessary files
installed CachyOS instead and everything worked

>>714506384
>installed CachyOS instead and everything worked
god dont' start again.
Not his again.
Why is it that linuxfags still haven't agreed on what one distro is good for gamers?
Why is it constant schrondingerscat of OS that changes every time you install as to what is actually supposed to be easy to use like windows

>>714505640
Well fuck. Maybe it will come at some point.

I have this nice mic but I can't position it in my setup in such a way that I wouldn't need background noise cancellation.

>>714506285
>no hwinfo64
true but if you for example have KDE it has widgets that give you can select pretty much all the system info you want
and there is also OCCT which is available on both Windows and Linux

>>714506589
I used Mint xfce and it just worked with my nvidia gpu

>it's time to make the switch

>>714503241
>everything is great except for all of these issues
yeah I'll stick to windows thanks

>>714505482
there is chicago95 for xfce desktop i think it looks good but its older than what you want

>>714505379
Unironically this.
Low IQ individuals should stay away from GNU/Linux.

>>714506207
Isnt ubuntu like the most popular linux distro?
Whats the problem with it?

>>714506371
Yeah more or less. Lutris has user made scripts to set everything up for you. Bottles is more of a general use Wine/Proton setup program. I personally prefer it because I have more control over the filesystem setup but Lutris or Bottles are both way better options than trying to install via Steam's proton setups.

>>714506589
>Why is it constant schrondingerscat of OS that changes every time you install as to what is actually supposed to be easy to use like windows
i hate it as much as you anon, wish there was a be-all-end-all linux distro where you dont really need to look through a thousand shitty distros
as much as it is an advantage it is also a disadvantages of everyone being able to create a distro
people do get overwhelmed by choice
but realistically you only have like 4-5 valid, solid choices for a distro

>>714506626
there is this thing called RNNoise which is pretty much what RTX voice does but i've not tested it

The biggest problem of Linux is exactly freedom of choice. If you don't know anything about desk environments, distros or operating systems can be really overwhelming. Lots of issues can be solved by knowing your DE or distro. When using WIndows you don't need to know anything else because, unless somebody uses some esotheric windows flavor, it works the same on every single computer.
>>714506147
>don't know about snipping
It's literally the default windows snipping utility. When i used W11 it gave me some weird issues from time to time (explorer.exe crashes and whatnot), i had to use third party screenshot tools. Using KDE i don't have big issues with Spectacle (sometimes it works strange on multiscreen settings). Your issue looks more like a file explorer thing.

>>714506589
Gaben will save us with SteamOS

When are (You) going to make the switch?

Pirating games looks like a pain in the ass on Linux so I'm not gonna bother.

>>714507026
>It's literally the default windows snipping utility.
what I mean is that I never use it, I use print screen.

>>714506856
ubuntu is one of the shittiest distros at the moment is not being recommended anymore
it was (dunno if it still is) the most popular distro as it did everything to make it easy for the end user but for the last few years they have been fucking up so much that no one really recommends it anymore
the current go-to became Mint which is based on ubuntu but removes all the bloat and fuckups from it

Why are linux users so desperate to convince people to switch over?

>>714507104
am I supposed to know what that is?

>>714507161
Oh, i'm kinda forced on using it while writing user manuals or helping clients but i'm pretty sure you can disable (just like w11 snipping tool) or uninstall it

>>714507158
>Pirating games looks like a pain in the ass on Linux
im literally having easier time pirating on linux than on windows
you only say that because you havent tried it
>dont have to worry as much about viruses
>installing via lutris/bottles is same as installing on windows
>easier to uninstall as well, with no leftover bloat in AppData and other system folders
just give it an honest try and you'll see for yourself

>>714507212
We're laughing at you, not with you

>>714507161
shift+win+s takes a snip and you can ctrl+v it to anywhere you like

>>714505379
>>714506841
both of you faggots need to kys right now
normalfags are needed if linux is gonna thrive and have actually any chance of becoming a real desktop OS

>>714507446
I though Lutris needed genuine game copies? Last time I tried gaming on Linux I wasted 3 hours trying to figure out what the fuck Bottles are and eventually someone told me to get Lutris and that worked (even though it tried and failed to download Horn of the Abyss from some defunct russian website).
How does it work?

>>714505379
I'll bite. How?

>>714507747
You don't need normalfags, you just need less fragmentation.
The greatest advantage is also the worst part of the whole thing.

>>714479592 (OP)
>try to play Chrono Cross
>doesn't fucking work (inconsistent crashes)
>try to play Grandia HD (shit port I know)
>fmvs don't fucking play because it relies on windows dlls and the workarounds don't work
>Try to play im@s starlit season
>need to download proton ge AND it still won't fucking work because of random crashes
>this happened back to back
fuck you guys for shilling linux, I genuinely like it way more than windows and hope it gets better in the future, but anyone who says it "just werks" is disingenuous

Ive tried ubuntu and mint on old laptops of mine
How are fedora and arch based distros? I've never tried them because the idea of needing to use different commands for a bunch of stuff annoyed me

>>714479592 (OP)
Linux is fully of tranny coders who pushed backdoor code, no thanks.

>>714507783
>I though Lutris needed genuine game copies
lmao no, you can install any and all .exe files through lutris, even regular software
picrel is the example
both of these games are pirated, 1.12 WoW private server and cracked Runescape Dragonwilds that you install via the Run EXE

>>714507212
The more people switch to Linux the more distro developers will be forced to make them not shit.

>>714507894
>you just need less fragmentation
and thats never gonna happen because the developers are all mentally ill
so the 2nd best thing is getting more normies to use it

>>714507996
>ctrl+f
>look to post this
>only one mention of tranny in thread

>>714479592 (OP)
I tried, but my games ran worse than ever before so I installed w11 instead. It's probably my own fault, but if I can't make it work well out of the box, then I'm not too interested. I already have a ton of Nvidia driver issues, I don't want more issues to juggle.

>>714480831
The biggest shit storm that has surrounded Ubuntu for the past decade is over their proprietary app store. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>714508130
Anything that seeks mass market appeal turns into complete garbage.
THIS IS A FACT.

>>714479592 (OP)
I run Arch as my primary OS. I still keep windows but for gaming only, since some new techs(like RTX, Gsync) are still not available to Linux yet. RTX and Gsync come to linux, I will be deleting Windows for good

>>714507996
>tranny coders who pushed backdoor code, no thanks.
there was some chinese guy studying in the US who tried it
he got his entire university banned from ever submitting code to the kernel

>>714486293
Dolphin is literally faster on Linux than it is on Windows. And it's a fucking AppImage, which is about as close as you can get to a .exe on Linux. You download it, doubleclick it, and it works.

>>714505358
Bullshit

>>714508490
true
but its not like linux is in a great state currently, its good but it needs normies though not to the point that it becomes the "standard" like an iphone for example, if it ever reaches basketball american normies its over as at that point it will be low IQ-fied

>>714492876
>Kubuntu
As far as I'm aware, it can be quite buggy. Better to use standard Ubuntu LTS. Obviously the pro is that it runs Ubuntu/Debian software.
>Manjaro
No reason to use it over EndeavourOS.
>Fedora
Pretty good, can have some problems with drivers or codecs due to the fact that it tries to be as free as possible. Better to use one of the Ublue distros as a beginner.

>>714508757
>linux has problems
>no they don't it's all lies
>damn linux is perfect yet people don't want to use this flawless piece of software
I give up with you linuxfags.
Just keep wondering why everybody isn't using linux.
Must be because everybody is so stooooopid, and only if they were smart like you, they would all use it.

>>714508801

>>714492876
anon you shouldnt even consider them
you have to use >>714509016

>>714508801
It needs new blood to survive for sure.
It already has too much ideology pumped into the project.
Can we go back to master/slave?

>>714506856
It was pretty good like 15-20 years ago. It's a complete joke nowadays.

they extended support?

>>714488361
>there's no mspaint equivalent. trust me I tried them all.
There are some mspaint clones on flatpack, but gimp and krita are your go-to pic editing programms on linux. There is probably an online mspaint if you care to google it
>2. The only way to play a game with HDR support is to boot directly into steam big picture.
The support is still experimental and doesn't work for nvidia.
Not anymore, bro. Download the latest unofficial version of GE-proton. Any GE version that is 10+ supports HDR without the need of using big pic. I play Chess Ultra with HDR via GE proton 10-4.
>3. all the installers for all linux distros are bad and have bugs
Okay, but I assume once linux becomes more popular, its installers will become more user friendly. Arch installation used to be tedious, but recently it became easier with its installation wizard
>4. audio device management sucks
Zero problems with managing my audio devices. I have a headset connected on my pc with bluetooth and have zero problems

>>714480831
Yeah that's the most dumb made up story ever. If you were talking about Arch (but you can use a GUI to install shit there too lmao) I'd understand it, but Ubuntu is full retard corporate GUI Linux.

>>714503241
>KDE bug where moving the mouse around makes it grow in size. comical, doesn't really interfere with anything
That isn't a bug, that's a feature for finding the mouse.
You can disable it in accessibility settings I'm pretty sure.

>>714489357
>Gamescope is not booting steam big picture mode
it is, you can't run your desktop environment on gamecope.

>>714506589
because the reality is that most distros work about the same for gaming, so when you ask "what distro good for play gaem" you just get whatever the people reading the thread use because it works for them. every so often you see meme "optimized for gaming" distros making waves with big numbers on benchmarks but there are obvious downsides to entrusting your PC to a fork distro maintained by a single person. most people aren't so obsessed with maximizing performance that they'd opt to use those and they aren't magically more compatible than anything else, at most they make it easier to install nvidia drivers and might have steam and wine preinstalled. steamOS isn't going to change anything either. it's just arch with some specific configurations that only make sense for the steam deck and similar systems.

>>714497614
Arch is easy, but you can just use EndeavourOS which is Arch but for toddlers which they can install in like 10 minutes with most of that 10 minutes being spent copying/downloading files while you watch a progress bar.

>>714510339
kolourpaint works for me, does everything ive done on mspaint

>>714479592 (OP)
will linux be the first OS with AI kernel?

>>714485897
>choose retarded corporate distro as your base
>amazed that it was dropped
only retards did not see this coming. theres a reason gaben chose arch instead but retards cannot be fixed

I own too many PCs to switch to Linux.

>>714479592 (OP)
Yeah, I finally switched to Windows 11 and so far it's alright

sish, I will not learn how to code, when AI will create a good OS anyway?

>>714508490
usability doesn't have to come at the expense of customization or access to how things work behind the scenes

though modern day mass market appeal equals braindead mobile interfaces so there's that

>>714515045
I hate modern UI/UX with a passion.
CLI is preferable.

>>714479592 (OP)
just bought an all AMD laptop with 24 GB RAM
my current desktop is overkill for how shit gay ming has becum the last decade. this new setup should still let me play OG Crysis at max settings without breaking a sweat and I don't need more than that for emulators and other old shit.

>>714515370
A lot of it runs like ass too. CLI is often better.

>>714515898
If you set up some macros/aliases CLI is just way faster.

>want to play a game on Windows
>navigate to the folder
>double click game.exe
>want to play a game on Linux
>navigate to the folder in my terminal
>wine game.exe
WOOOOW LINUX IS SO HARD, THIS SHIT DOESN'T WORK I'M SWITCHING BACK TO WINDOWS.

>>714507104
>switch
Lol, lmao

>>714516313
You don't even have to use the terminal to navigate. Go to the folder, right click and open a terminal then do the command.

>>714479592 (OP)
I guarantee you every asshole who write articles about switching to Linux did not in fact switch to Linux for long. They all switched back shortly after.

Why?

Because tons of programs and games aren't supported by Linux. It's a fucking pain in the arse when lots of shit don't work because of lack of drivers or just nobody making that app for linux.

Anyone who says they'll just use Wine or some windows emulator for that is full of shit. Wine is buggy as fuck and even then lots of drivers don't work properly with doing it from a emulator running on Linux.

I switched a couple weeks ago. My games all werk, but it took some fiddling about. It's still not viable for the average normalfag.

>>714516313
clicking through a GUI is much more convenient than typing crap into a terminal
how is this something that linuxfags don't understand? it's such a simple concept
or is it that you do understand but can't admit it?

>>714516535
>Because tons of programs and games aren't supported by Linux
And nothing of value was lost.

>>714516535
>that spacing
Is this a pasta?

>>714516738
Then use the GUI. What's stopping you?

>>714516534
It's true, I just have a hotkey to open my terminal so I never think to use my file browser. I use it so rarely I couldn't even remember which one I use without checking.

>>714508406
nvidia is shit on linux that's probably why

>>714507971
Did you... try to play anything besides 2 games with notoriously shit ports?

>>714516876
I do use it, but there are inevitably normal things that end up requiring terminal use because nobody implemented the GUI method. And even that much is tolerable until I see people normalizing it by saying that terminal usage is better and more user-friendly when it absolutely is not.

>>714517490
Bullshit, if you're installing/removing packages you don't need a terminal

linuxfags are so vocal as if their 2% userbase mattered

>>714517490
Not the guy you're talking to but I constantly use powershell on windows and find it infinitely more user friendly than the jeetware UI.

>>714485416
honest question, did you try linux mint?
it just works.

>>714517593
I installed Brave from Mint's software manager and then found little annoying quirks with it. The solution was to instead install as directed by their website, and the directions there were to type some crap into the terminal. And there are other examples that I don't keep cataloged in my mind but are similar. And in general there are just basic things that you expect to work, yet don't. Like if I pick an application and use the GUI "add shortcut to desktop" thing it'll add a broken link to the desktop.

>>714487026
only game to my knowledge it doesn't support are fortnite, roblox and games by riot like league and valorant.

>>714480373
You mean THIS Microsoft?
https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/issues/117233
https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/pull/115732
https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/pull/115733
https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/pull/115743
https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/pull/115762

>>714479592 (OP)
To console gaming.

>>714517984
Just use flatpak
>brave
Bot net brower

>>714517782
Cool and you're 0.5% of users.
>>714518157
>Just use flatpak
I just told you it had issues
>Bot net brower
Very typical behavior of linux shills, problems are deflected as unique issues despite actually being pervasive and frequently pointed out by users

>>714518351
No you didn't, you said your package manager had a problem. Flatpak isn't your distro's package manager.
Use the appimage, literally just doubleclick it.

>Very typical behavior of linux shills, problems are deflected as unique issues despite actually being pervasive and frequently pointed out by users
Skill issue.

>>714480831
>pretending that ubuntu is a scary os for tech elitists

>>714479592 (OP)
Windows 11 is jeeted, also they are forcing their developers to use their AI mandatorily and is funny to see the AI shitting all the repo and the devs have to take it seriously. of course the AI got trained on jeeted code so is flawed in the matrix.

>>714518468
>Skill issue.
Correct, it is an issue with your skillset. Due to your autism you lack the ability to see things from a normal perspective and treat issues accordingly.

>>714518351
Linux users are 2%, yet you don't seem to be nearly as upset that you sometimes encounter people who say that they enjoy using that.
Gui is slow as shit for some things, package management being one of them. I don't mind if you prefer gui, but to say it's weird or wrong that someone would prefer cli and find it more user friendly is just dumb

>>714479592 (OP)
The white man uses Steam OS or Windows 10.
That simple.

Ok, I'm trying out bazzite
So far nothing on steam even starts. Compatibility for proton experimental was set from the start, but I'm just trying to plug and play with an external drive that already had all my games downloaded and I assume that could be causing issues

>>714518662
>cries because he can't operate his computer
>NOOOOOOOO YOU'RE THE ONE WHO LACKS THE SKILLS
lol go back to windows

>>714479592 (OP)
Reminder that the surge in Linux users turned out to be mostly from India, who is also the largest overall user of the OS.

>>714518898
https://www.protondb.com/
this helps

>>714505379
This is a necessary evil or else Linux will never get widespread support from commercial professional software.

>>714518858
>Windows 10
good morning saar

>>714519015
I'm familiar.
Oblivion remastered is stated to be platinum but I can't get it to start.
Installed amid evil fresh and it seems to work fine, so I'm gonna try to reinstall oblivion and see if that helps.

>>714518839
2% of steam survey participants, not 2% of users. And the whole point of this conversation is attracting new users (people who aren't already tinkertrannies) and why linux turns people off.

>>714518898
oh yeah i had the same issue with an external drive
if i remember correctly something about pfx/compdata (the steam/proton emulated windows environment) was fucky, cant remember how i solved it though

>>714518984
Reminder that if you can't into Linux, this means you're admitting inferiority to a jeet.

>People say AMD drivers are better than Nvidia ones
>Xorg is literally unusable now because of AMDGPU kernel driver
>Pageflip time out on Wayland
>A specific version of firmware amd caused black screen on boot

>>714519137
boy i sure love when memes are driven 20 feet under through abusive overuse.

>>714519435
yet still very effective bloody saar benchod

>>714519494
that's nice sweetie

>>714518898
The external drive is NTFS right?
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/wiki/Using-a-NTFS-disk-with-Linux-and-Windows

>>714479592 (OP)
Well, they're charging to extend support, and that's just Microsoft, not software devs. I'm all for more people looking for alternatives but this is a stupid reason to switch.

>>714519171
You need to tinkertranny on windows way more than Linux, don't bs me. I spent a long time with command line debloating windows 10 back in the day and figuring out how to remove particularly offensive components like the windows store. Spent so much effort that I didn't even want to install windows 11 when I built a new computer. In fact that is exactly why I switched to Linux, cuz debloating is so unfun.

>>714480373
Well, someone is:
https://winclassic.net/thread/3005/explorer7-restoring-windows-7-experience

>>714518898
>I'm just trying to plug and play with an external drive that already had all my games downloaded
that's not how Proton and Steam work at all. you have the backups on an external drive? have you tried running them through Lutris instead?

>>714480831
But you don't at all, you can install .deb packages on UBENTO just fine and flatpaks are a thing. Why are mactards completely ignorant about computers?

>>714519430
>Xorg is literally unusable now
working fine on my system. what distro?

>>714519675
>You need to tinkertranny on windows way more than Linux, don't bs me
You absolutely do not. For an optimal experience, sure. But I spend far more time figuring crap out on Linux than I ever did on windows, and I'm far from alone in observing that. There are a bunch of similar testimonies in this very thread.

>>714519879
Arch but it depends on mouse, card and kernel version. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/3709

>>714519628
Software devs aren't going anywhere because they actually make money from their programs, they can't afford to suddenly just tell over half their user base to fuck off like MS can.

>>714520105
I guess. running an Ubuntu 25.04 flavor and haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary. also why I moved away from Arch a few months ago.

>>714520431
I got a 9070 XT so I need relatively new drivers. I will try to compile the kernel with a patch. Also you will get affected eventually too.

>>714479592 (OP)
yes, I made the switch to Windows 7
Games work way better.
Literally everything works, except new woke slop, which is great.

>>714480831
Why in the world would a macfaggot visit /v/ of all places? To rage quietly about all the games you can't run? You into self-punishment, Nancy?
Ha-ha! Time to check your email again!

>>714520105
why would you own that mouse?
buy another mouse!!!
everything works in Loonix
and if it doesn't, it's your fault for buying the wrong hardware.

>>714519941
What are you even saying? That you don't care if you have a shit experience? Then what's the issue?
I would spend less time figuring shit out on windows too, since I've used it for literally 30 years. Doesn't make it any less painful when all the solutions are sub optimal because windows is so locked down and convoluted.

>>714480525
Just use Bazzite or AnduinOS

>>714520668
This is specificly a vsync (vblank) issue. (((They))) intentionally try to kill Xorg because it's the white man's free display manager.

TROONIX

>>714520834
>(((they)))
you mean the leftie troons? because they and certain distros try to kill it all, and also washed away any info about that fact.
btw. that Linux-Jew Lunduke reported on it lol so much for the Jews behind it all. Instead they expose it all.

>>714520561
reading a bit more, the problem also seems tied to mouse polling rate. i found 1000 MHz overkill for mine, so I've always kept it at 500 MHz. that's probably why I never noticed when I was running Arch between Feb and May.

>>714520680
>Then what's the issue?
wasting time because retarded devs that are full of themselves do not consider user friendliness important or even something to go for.

why easy, when you can make something as bad as possible.

take for example the retarded text edit vim.
you know every single non retarded text editor uses the fucking cursor keys, which are there for a fucking reason.

Not Troonix vim of course. You need to use Ctrl-S for Control Shit and other nonsenseical nonsense.

you basically need to read a book to even control a FUCKING simple TEXT EDITOR, because the RETARDED dev thinks it's brilliant to do something simple in a way that's totally stupid and retarded.

>>714502759
>>714483025
this is unironically autism

>>714521827
the opposite actually.

>>714480831
Snap is trash because install every app inside virtual disk, choking your /dev/sda

>>714521770
video game shooter designed by sane people:
digipad / left analog stick for movement
one regular button to shoot
one to dodge
one to reload

video game shooter made by Troonix devs:
you move forward by pressing the right bumper
you move backward by pressing up on the digipad
you move left by pressing right on the second controller
you move right by pressing triangle button
to shoot you press the power button of the console
to doge you touch the touchscreen
to reload you push backward on the right analog stick

>>714522542
>video game shooter made by Troonix devs:
>you move forward by pressing the right bumper
>you move backward by pressing up on the digipad
>you move left by pressing right on the second controller
>you move right by pressing triangle button
>to shoot you press the power button of the console
>to doge you touch the touchscreen
>to reload you push backward on the right analog stick
and when anyone complains you shout RTFM RTFM RTFM
but also "it's super easy"

>>714479592 (OP)
With the jeetification of Microshit, I don't even know if I would trust the security updates for Windows 10 LTR for people clinging onto that.

>>714480373
>If MS would be smart they would just port XP and 7 shell into the current kernel.
The interface is not the problem. Microsoft now imposes fake system requirements (TPM chip) that exclude tons of still very good hardware, and force you to use an online account. Sure, there are workarounds -- but then you're jumping through hoops to run a system from a vendor who is actively trying to screw you. At this point, even casual users are noticing the hostility.

>>714522542
>video game shooter made by Troonix devs:
>you move forward by pressing the right bumper
>you move backward by pressing up on the digipad
>you move left by pressing right on the second controller
>you move right by pressing triangle button
>to shoot you press the power button of the console
>to doge you touch the touchscreen
>to reload you push backward on the right analog stick
name of game?

>>714522980
Far Right Kill Kill DRUMPF!!!! Tux Shooter

>>714521061
Redhat is the jews. Gnome devs are the lefty trannies. Xorg/Xlibre dev and Lunduke are the chuds. It's funny how XLibre guy said he wants political free environment where people are equal and lelfties got mindbroke by that. I actually do remember when Russian devs got kicked out of project(a) because of current thing.

>>714523453
>It's funny how XLibre guy said he wants political free environment where people are equal and lelfties got mindbroke by that.
that's not uncommon.

>>714517670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGleTynEtOI
Same vibes.

>>714480780
I've had some weird issues with Ubuntu that just doesn't exist on Mint

>protonDB lists system shock 1 remake as platinum
>try to install it
>doesn't even launch
I get that theres things I can do to get it to run. But the fact that I have to do these things is annoying, considering platinum is supposed to mean "works out of the box"

>>714517670
>YOU MUST INSTALL LINUX
it's a choice. anyone forcing you is a faggot. everyone encouraging you is a concerned computerzen. M$ and Crapple have both sucked for a while now.

>>714487931
wromg