> be Valve
> have ~336 employees
> run Steam, take 30% cut of all game sales

> 2009 Steam commission revenue: ~$100 million
> 2021 Steam commission revenue: ~$2 billion
> 2021 Steam operating profit margin: ~60%
> do the math: $2B * 60% = $1.2 billion operating profit

> divide by 336 employees
> ~$3.57 million profit per employee
> even more insane: FT says only 114 people work on Steam/admin
> $1.2B / 114 = ~$11.4 million per Steam employee

> Facebook in 2018: $780k per employee
> Apple in 2018: $476k per employee
> Valve BTFOs entire tech industry

> no shareholders
> no ads
> no public reporting
> just digital games and anime profile pics
> profit harder than literally anyone

> all from one PC launcher

NO WONDER HOES MAD AT VALVE

Just give your consumers what they want, it really is that simple
But no, oy vey!

>>714493357 (OP)
oy vey, he needs to go public with this company!

>valve cultists bragging about their cult leaders are making money while they do nothing and dont make any games and let their current games be infested with hackers and have no new content

What is this phenomenon called?

>>714493967
Out of every service I've used for approximately 20 years, Valve has tried to fuck me over the least.

You see
Private Company = Focus on Consumers having a good experience
Public traded company = Focus on Shareholder profits

When the shareholder profits are determining my experience, things get bad for me the consumer.

>>714493967
>plays games made after 2012
I call it 'not my problem'

>Cucked Microsoft from forcing GFWL and EA from ever making PCfags pay a subscription just to play their games online using the internet they already pay for

Imagine the seethe Valve have created just from that alone

>>714493967

>It doesnt count !

>>714493967
every game is infested with cheaters now grampa. for what its worth valve has been trying to develop actually gamechanging anti-cheat to deal with them but they may have figured out that is fundamentally impossible to stop a person from a BRICS country from cheating. for them cheating is more important than eating

>>714494680
huh

>>714493357 (OP)
>divide by 336 employees
>~$3.57 million profit per employee
fucking commies

>>714493357 (OP)
Those profits need to be going to (((shareholders)))!

>>714493357 (OP)
Yummy yummy look at all that slop!!! They even rereleased CSGO and slapped a new name on it and then proceeded to remove most of the content from it...that clearly is a new game then!!!

>>714496442
ironically if valve went public the first thing they'd do is demand to use all the profits to do stock buybacks and just speculate on the stock value

>>714494680
Yummy yummy look at all that slop!!! They even rereleased CSGO and slapped a new name on it and then proceeded to remove most of the content from it...that clearly is a new game then!!!

proton alone makes valve extremely based imo

>hire educated and intelligent white men
>company turns into a success
It's not that hard.

>>714493357 (OP)
>Valve BTFOs entire tech industry
Trust me, companies would rather be Apple or Microsoft than Valve.

>>714494680
Desk job is not a game, its a control tutorial for the steamdeck.
>>714494705
> for what its worth valve has been trying to develop actually gamechanging anti-cheat
How about they instead just go back to the era of server browsers being the dominant solution to playing their games. It was a lot easier when you had games with admins that could personally deal with problems like cheaters rather than this all eggs in one basket solution of having to rely on shitty matchmaking.

>>714497204
>companies
People want to work on Valve, “”””shareholders””””” want Facebook and Microsoft

>>714496328
Probably because the company is built off of "flat management" which in itself is a fucking awful idea. All it does is incentivize clique culture, and by having everyone make the same amount, it puts pressure on those not doing projects the others are doing to conform to what they're doing. The idea of 'do whatever you want in the company!' is all bullshit since you'll get fired as the hidden management ran by the popular crowd judges you.

>>714493967
But enough about Nintendo cultists.

>>714493357 (OP)
May sound like a lot, but then you have to note that you work in the Seattle area where prices for housing and taxes are utterly obscene.

>>714497770
Steamies and snoys are cultists. Tendies are actual bots.

>>714493357 (OP)
tick tock steamies
TICK TOCK
https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1lr11t5/anyone_else_got_a_mail_from/

>>714497770
They're all shit you retard. How hard is it to just not be a pathetic fanboy?

>>714498293
>reddit wants to take on the fat man
It's illegal to display such acts of savagery

>>714493357 (OP)
>dear valve employees: we made 3.5 million per each one of you this year! here's your reward!

Another thread where I can laugh at the pearl clutchers cry foul at how a independent game studio is a monopoly. How will the shareholders eat if they can have a piece of that scrumptious pie?

>>714498683
What we know from former devs, what valve really gives is bonuses that can be anywhere from 10%-40% of their yearly wage depending on where they stand in the employee stack ranking. Not to mention the two week all expenses paid vacation to where ever valve chooses to go that year and the month off for January.

>>714493357 (OP)
If you are a Private company you dont have to give money to shareholders.

>>714497625
>t. seething middle management

>>714499705
Wouldn't you prefer a bag of candy and a sticker like at all the public companies?

There was a Financial Times articles published today that was reasonably fair coverage, until the author started jerking himself raw near the end at the prospect of gaben kicking the bucket and Valve going public.
Genuinely hope that Gaben's family don't sell it off after he dies for a handful of magic beans or some shit.

>be valve
>hire nigger from college
>he writes math problem that looks fucking retarded
>says it means you are rich

0 physical games sold

if valve was publicly traded they would have fired 90% of staff, said it was because ai and then hired twice as many pajeets

>>714501000
They would also somehow manage to lose 90% of their customer base despite dominating the market. Never underestimate the stupidity of executives and shareholders.

>>714493357 (OP)
Great now use that money to fund Half Life 3

>Actually believing any CEO on earth would let his employees make 11 million dollars in salary

Valvefags really are a cult.

>>714499002
Because private companies are evil and anti-semitic. Epic Games not dominating the market is just the holocaust all over again. Gaben needs to die for the human race to be saved.

>>714501223
No one said that timmy.

>>714493967
Well, Valeve its probably one of the few companies in the planet that reflect what could the free market do if it wasnt infested by jews that wanted to maximize shareholder value by giving the impression that your company is more valuable than it actually is by bloating it.

>Makes Snoys seethe
>Makes Tendies tremble
>Makes Microbots mad
>Makes Epigs enraged
How does he do it?

>>714493967
What games? Valve has never made a single game afaik. They're just the company that made the amazon platform called Steam.

>>714493357 (OP)
>2021 Steam operating profit margin: ~60%
What the fuck

>>714501465
>>Makes Epigs enraged
Those don't exist. PC gamers only use Steam. Epic failed, the only ones sucking up on this "platform" are console cuckolds. Pic related.

They use lies like this to resell the company. Like Bungie with Sony

0 game discs sold

Now that I think of it, isn’t this a really bad sign? Like when your parents have the house appraised, you know they’re selling it soon!

>>714493357 (OP)
This is because public companies overhire, and private companies only hire who they need. This article is trying to shame valve into hiring more wamen.

Private companies still have shareholders. Most of that profit is going to Gabe and his ex-wife.

>>714501980
Public companies overhire for useless garbage and underhire for positions that actually matter.

>>714493357 (OP)
It's easy, just look at how many non-citizen pajeets each of those companies hire:
>Facebook: A lot
>Apple: A lot
>Valve: 0

>>714493967
Tim literally leaked my password the seconds I made an account. Hacked not even a day later. So yeah I'll stick with valve where I never had any security issues.

>>714493357 (OP)
>no shareholders

This is false private companies can&do issue shares of a company to employees. Can&do sell do companies/banks/hedge funds . Companies like valve can also sell private bonds which is debt issued by a company offering to pay a min% more if you buy and hold the bond for its issued time of 5-10-20-30 years you can also sell the bond before said time period.

All this info is private tho since its a private company. Companies can also set up shell companies or etc to do this so its not the parent company issuing stuff.

Gayben absolutely created a private hedge fund&or private equity or the employees/private investors.(gayben and the board invest into companies to sell later, the profits going towards everyone who bought shares into the fund. A share could be lets say 25k and there is only 10k shares issued, the more value the fund is worth the higher the share price to buy/sell. People are able to vote on what the money gets used on with more shares giving a higher vote etc etc.)

This is all really basic shit for retirement funds as well as company investment bonds or like RSP's or etc etc etc. Basically giving the company money they invest it, and because its the company you work for investing shit. You will always make more money than investing it into something public there is also like no fees and shit.


But yeah valve is not paying everyone fucking millions of dollars a year. They invest so much money into valve spending it on R&D cyber security
valve is always under attack, especially by (((American))) over the past few years. Valve being a private company THE gaming company setting the rules&regs&standards Jews cant force shit on valve.
Or drain the company of all its funds. asset stripping it after a few years. Selling off parts of valve to other companies for a massive profit.
This enrages Jews. Valve also has basically no jewish employees/board controlled by jews, something unheard of in fortune 500 compani

>>714501519
It's obscene and marks them solidly alongside high finance-tier public companies, if they were ranked among them. Then again if they were public they'd have been enshittified to death years ago.
I just want Gaben to release SteamOS for Desktop and save us. He must save us...

then Gabe dies and everything goes to hell.

>>714505220
he could live to 110

>>714501465
he won

>>714497770
Nintendo makes games

>>714503467

>>714508464
Define hacked.

>>714508754
some mumbai jeet tried to log in with the wrong password and the attempt was flagged by valve

>>714493357 (OP)
you are fucking retarded

this is literally Valve pocketing the money and buying fucking billion$ luxury yachts from it, instead of the money staying /being reinvested in game development.

This shit is not your fucking benefit. The whole point of you paying for game development is paying for the industry's RND, especially in the sectors you care about. Valve is like a huge fucking money sink in the industry

>>714509097
>buying fucking billion$ luxury yachts from it
what a waste
gabe should be investing in immortality technologies

>>714496886
>first thing they'd do is demand to use all the profits to do stock buybacks
They can do an IPO and only issue 35% or less shares of the company. Do it so they're not voting shares either.

You don't have to be retarded giving the company away.
Tons do IPO's and offer fuck all because its not about generating capital. Because said companies are old&rich. They're just going public because upper management/board/officers want massive fucking bonuses&stock options that 50X+ in value crashing the company quickly afterwards(while never selling said stock but taking out (((loans))) on the value of said stock. Because they're poor they only make 94k a year(while receiving millions in annual stock. THAT THEY CANT SELL because of laws/insider trading/etc "faggotree") Keeping all of said money in offshore accounts. Property is owned by shell companies/hedge funds/private equity by "someone" from panama/small island nation X person is totally not the person who owns said company, CANT PROVE SHIT its illegal to find out who invested into the company its not in america! They're just watching the property to make sure the investment grows and no one fucks with the house/etc.


IPO's are either because the company is doing bad yet pretending is massively profitable like reddit or everyone high up wants massive fucking payouts and wants people to invest into the company so they can get massive loans for hostile takeovers for more bonuses
Like goldman stachs which went public in like 1999 even tho the company was one of the largest in the world and decades old. Its profits every year from 99-07 went from like 2b to 75b which got all the heads massive massive 20+ million dollar bonuses CASH a year plus stock PLUS 100-150m RETIREMENT BONUSES PLUS OWNING SHARES IN A PRIVATE COMPANY/investment started in the 70's that you could only sell at 65 years old min worth ungodly amounts. Then they crashed the market in 07 crying for bailouts because of shit mortgages&fraud