Thread 714498432

HoMM sweet home.

mite reinstall

>>714498432 (OP)
played this a ton in college while super high and had a lot of fun, but never played the campaigns. How are they?

>>714500680
>Ever uninstalling it

>>714501921
i only played it once for a couple days but it was very comfy. also i've been watching a might and magic 6 playthrough so i'm interested in the series a bit

>XS map
Garbage. Medium or higher at least.

>>714500834
They range from comfy kino to annoyingly hard as balls. Plenty entertainment for everyone.

>>714498432 (OP)
>New HoMM got delayed
Cursed IP.

>>714504387
>New HoMM
Olden Era?

Dammit I really want to play this

Why is there no console release yet

>>714504549
Yup.
The developer changed the publisher.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/3105440/view/532102384016426733

>>714504728
Is this bait or what?

I still like HoMM IV more despite all the flaws.
If only 3DO didn't go full retard with their cucksole.

>>714500834
I save scum, so they're not that hard, but that's still annoying.

>>714504779
How come swordsmen are stronger than griffins?

>HoMM is dead Olden Era please be good.
>Disciples are dead
>Majesty is dead
>Comfy Impressions Games city builders are dead
>The Settlers are dead
>Stronghold is dead

Why even live at this point?

>>714498432 (OP)
Yes. I think i can plays some right now. HoMM 4. Zanfast's Challenge scenario map. Will write a book about it.

>>714505526
For some reason I really like the UI. Don't ask why.

>>714505526
I fucking love HoMM IV. It has its flaws, a lot of them, but it love it nonetheless.

>>714506265
Fucking Disciples. Rarely have I seen a series crash and burn so badly like Disciples did with the third game.

>>714507308
There is also Disciples:Liberation.

>>714507120
I think music in that game was phenomenal.
https://youtu.be/obK-k848Vto
Base game campaign also had great story, shit I cared to read.
Multiplayer was just as unbalanced as ever, so just skip that.
There were many obvious downgrades if you compare to HoMM like lack of upgradable units or overall bad animation quality.

>>714507308
It's always the same story.
>Have great game
>Game changes the developer because IP holder is evil
>Make shit sequel
>Series dies

What faction has the best aesthetics and why is it Tower?

>>714498432 (OP)
I could just look at this game all day

>>714505526
man this game is so good and bad at the same time.

>>714498432 (OP)
How's the rpg?

>>714507776
Sometimes they weird salvage it, though.

>>714507869
Both stronghold and fortress are above tower aesthetically unless you like ice jew sorcerers

>>714507869
Castle is the most iconic.

Vampire lords are 100% balanced

>>714507869
They're all fantastic. Except conflict. The whole elemental thing is just boring

>>714508112
Conflux derp

>>714508112
Conflux was a last minute addition is why

>>714507640
Animation quality does not bother me that much.
I love it for the simple fact that you can field heroes and have an entire army of just heroes.
Art style is great. Music is divine.
I do wish units were not just upgradable but also diverse in their upgrades (as in you can have crossbowman be a marksman or breacher (explosive crossbow+shield). I also wish hell and undead were properly separated, and thus there would be 7 army types.

>>714508016
I still dislike HoMM V, but I loved Etherlords 1 and 2.
Same devs so they kept many things between those series.
I think the over-world map experience is simply quite bad in HoMM V.
Camera is too close, environments look quite bad.
They kept HoMM3 battle system for the most part but it wasn't that good to begin with.
At least town art was nice.

>>714498432 (OP)
you mean slodkiy dom

>>714508393
>Etherlords 1 and 2
holy fuck. now those are names I haven't heard in ages.

BLAHH!

>>714505526
>Can you go years without talking to another human being? What about untold months snatching your meals from the forest floor and sleeping in muddy pits? Sanity is a spider clinging to a fluttering thread of web unaware of the fingers reaching for it, catching it, plopping it in my mouth...

>>714508491
My nigger!

It took me getting stomped 7 times in a row to realise that the first campaing on the title menu is actually the DLC

>>714508631
Official, factually correct ranking of HoMM4 campaigns
1. Life - Lysander
2. Death
3. Chaos
4. Barbarians
5. Nature
6.
7.
8. Order

>>714505526
Music and story are so good it could be a stage play

>>714498432 (OP)
This game is so gorgeous. My dad loves homm3 so I got him a pair of socks with homm3 screenshot printed on them for his birthday

>>714508491
I forgot to mention, Nival made also .webm related another great game.
Not my webm.

Emerald Isle

Home

At least it was until I led the dragonflies into the villagers again.

>>714509185
Silent storm is the only game with actual destructible buildings

>>714508259
Yes Sir.
Heroes finally became more than stat-stick.
And you could field multiple at the time.
Expansions were too little too late, the company was already on death throes.

>>714498432 (OP)
Currently playing the"empire of the World 2" map
There is no better experience in gaming than this its perfect

>>714507869
Necropolis and Dungeon

>>714509462
I wish they did nu-X-COM, but we can't have nice things.

>>714509185
Ss was so good. Haven't heard it discussed in years. What a blast

Favourite heroes 3 hero?
For me its Ciele and Roland (Honorable mention Tyris)

Is Songs of conquest good enough to scratch my homm itch?

>>714510112
Based even tho first aid is garbage

>>714508631
It just resonates with my soul.

>>714510127
Just play h3 at that point

which version of the game is the best

>>714510127
I was disappointed by that game.
I would rather replay King's Bounty sequels.

>>714510271
the open source port that runs on everything

Was there any game in the same genre on the level of HOMM3?

>>714507640
>Homm 4 campaign
>it's a "the CPU has a one way portal leading next to your home castle and invades the instant you have less than 9000 soldiers to defend it" level
that's a fun one haha

>>714510271
Heroes 3 sod SP HD patch

>>714510503
yeah quite a few but HOMM3 had the nostalgia bonus for slavland so it stuck

>>714510535
>the CPU has a one way portal leading next to your home castle
sounds like a HOMM3 campaign t b h

I'm a mighty scrub.
How do I become a magic chad?

>>714510535
As if in HoMM3 on higher difficulty you could leave your shit unattended.

thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO3mIaGgf9E

>>714510503
King’s Bounty: The Legend, Disciples 1 & 2.

>out of nowhere update for HoMM5
huh?!?

I love comfy HoMM threads!

>>714511039
Some security youtuber made a video 'You can hack somebody's computer with HoMM5 map editor' recently, think they patched it

>>714510681
>Get Dimension Door and Town Teleport
>Win the game

>>714510503
Age of Wonders. The first game is mega soul.

>>714500834
>the campaigns
Restoration of Erathia is a glorified tutorial.
Armageddon's blade is fun to play, the devs clearly had fun making it and you can tell.
Shadow of Death is cock and ball torture.

How do europeans feel about this game being made by Americans and mogging the shit out of any TBS games they've ever made and how they're still playing it almost 30 years later and even making mods and new engines to play it in

>>714511440
Damn, I forgot about AoW. Good games never get old.

>>714510503
Age of Wonders 1 is fantastic, especially if you like lotr, nothing else gets closer to pressing those buttons. Age of Wonders 2 is also a beautiful game but shifts the focus from race war to wizard leaders, making it feel more Harry Potter by comparison.

>>714504387
>Delayed
Fug

>>714512860
>he had friends
die normie

>>714512926
At least two of them an hero'd despite being normalfags.
Yet here I am.

>>714512860
as a kid I played with my older brother
recently I introduced the game to a coworker and we had a fun game

>>714513128
Finding kindred souls is great.

>>714505526
it would be perfect if:

>necropolis and inferno as separated factions
>improved AI
>swamp faction
>some balance (fucking vampires)

>>714511387
In homm5 you can use transportation spells being stupid warrior.
>VS
In homm4 there are no such spells
>VS
In homm3 you need Wisdom to learn spells and corresponding school to master them

>>714513332
>fucking vampires
LMAO.
This is what made necropolis utterly overpowered in IV.
Necromancy just made it even more broken.
If only the poison spitting cucumbers weren't so slow, I could use them more often because those were the only ranged unit at your disposal.

>>714513332
There are mods for competitive play, that balance all things around, so vs some factions acid blobs are better, as they shoot and poison.
Overall community is good with fixing balance decade after game released. You don't have to play with other people, just try mods and play vs fixed ai

>>714510535
that's how every mission in homm6 campaigns were like, but those armies were also scripted to spawn

>>714513578
Sorry but getting hero capable of casting high level spells wasn't hard in III.
I think Town teleport should be limited to "once a week" and Dimension Door "once a day".

>>714513332
I wouldn't mind inferno being just neutrals, just remove them from necropolis

>>714513332
>>714513678
Yeah. Vampires were too damn good.
>ranged
You dont need those when you have ghosts.
Also, it would be nice to have Gargoyles for Death. I did not really like having to choose one or the other for T2 and T3. I can understand T4, but seriosly, just 5 creatures? Meh.
>swamp
Nah, just add those creatures to Stronghold (Might).

>>714498432 (OP)
Rampart, home.

>>714514739
>You dont need those when you have ghosts.
Ranged units were great in castle defense scenarios.
Bonuses you got from standing on that pedestals were bonkers.
Plus poison was free damage each turn.

>>714498432 (OP)
It's insane to think that everything you see in that image down to the last pixel was done by hand/mouse back in the day.

>>714515682
Only if you were born in the last twenty years

>>714506265
Stronghold is releasing definitive edition of Crusader soon

>>714498432 (OP)
wish I could get immersed into it as I did as a kid...

>>714516260
How was it done then?

>>714516297
But I played that game already.
They also fucked up the advisor.

>>714500834
Campaigns are easy if you observe one simple rule: do not run your important heroes into the darkness beyond the first few weeks. 2500 gold for a throwaway scout will save you from fatal blunders.

>>714515682
HoMM2 art is a true pixel art while HoMM3 has pre-rendered images from 3D models.

>>714516881
I only dislike how ground looks like, but otherwise it's great

>>714516881
>1080p
Pixel art doesn't look nearly as good at high resolutions.

Home...
https://youtu.be/5mZvb5bJkf0

>>714505526
I've had some pirated version with a shitton of custom maps that played like an RPG, it was a lot of fun.

ENTER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z_avCG9tPs

>>714517876
I never played II despite playing all the other HoMM games, yes even VII.

>>714517930
For me it was UT and Q3.

>best music is just on mission select
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3DqMbnD95k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzzqWFqEXvY

How did he do it bros? So many times?

>>714518783
The dude is an absolute gigachad

tfw I've never played HoMM
>t. almost a boomer
It looks supremely comfy.

>>714519123
REEEEEE, play it nao!

>CS 1.6, Homam 3, Gothic 2
That's All i have to say.

>>714519765
yeah

>>714519804
>militia nigger
If you are not a new camp/mercs Chad then get out of here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4eRBZWu0yE
Why can't we have memorable soundtracks anymore?

>>714520129
>new camp
lmao

whats the correct version of 3 to get

>>714500834
The first 1-3 missions in the AB and SoD campaigns are great, but the game just doesn't work when you start with a high level hero, and you're incentivized to delay finishing maps you've basically won to visit every skill boost building and max out your mages guilds.

>>714520348
For single player just get GoG version, HoMM: Complete.
For multiplayer grab HotA.

>>714520129
*laughs in fire mage superiority*

>>714508112
>The whole elemental thing is just boring
elemental golems are fine, especially since they already had the assets and needed to replace that goofy star trek shit, but the architecture and vibe they came up with totally missed the mark
why do golems have buildings? the cities should have looked alien and vaguely hostile, like the heroes
they were also clearly trying too hard to counter dragon-armageddon play

>>714510681
speaking of...
>one durable and fast creature
>expert air magic
>dimension door and armageddon or chain lightning
>teleport across half of the map
>cast once
>half of opponent's creatures deleted
>retreat/surrender
>respawn hero
>do it again the next day

>>714520737
You are evil. Just like myself.

>>714520602
What's that shephard cuck? Don't you have some sheep to take for a walk? Or sweep the floors?

>>714520912
lmao don't make me summon a demon on your shitty little farm

>>714520912
Sweeping the floors is a valuable service

>>714508995
>The narrator for Lysander's campaign gets the best waifu.

Agreed.

How do I get good with these guys?

>>714521004
Yeah, yeah, keep talking big. You wear a gay red skirt for god sake. Keep playing with your runes nerd, i am busy hunting dragons.

>>714516401
I didn't scroll far enough; that's pretty close to the vibe I described >>714520737

>>714521473
Demon farming
Getting armageddon in level 4 mage guild
Arch Devil cheese

>>714521526
You won't be such a pompous ass once I've given you a good ice wave and threw your worthless ass down into the hidden catacombs

>>714514514
How would you balance the basic, advanced and expert versions of those spells?

>>714512056
Would you recommend 1 over the others??
Ive heard good stuff about 3 and that 4 was a bit underwhelming overall.

>>714498432 (OP)
/pol/ has told me that this game is redpilled on the Jews.

>>714524821
You can just use the HotA balance or

For town portal, once per week per hero.
>Basic
>Only visited towns by that hero
>Advanced
>Any town ally or your own town
>Expert
>Lower movement penalty to 50%

Dimension Door, once per day per hero
>Basic
>Normal movement penalty.
>Advanced
>75% of normal movement penalty
>Expert
>50% of normal movement penalty

Mana costs are irrelevant but you can tweak those if you want.

>>714525936
Makes me want to ride a camel

>>714504779
>The developer changed the publisher.
Huh? How is that possible?
I thought Ubi was the publisher, and they own the franchise

>>714527207
Just read the Q&A I posted.
Ubishit doesn't care about their small IPs.

I'm so bad at HOMM3. If I didn't even try and just played without thinking, I think I'd do better than when I actually try. I can't beat the computer even on the easiest difficulty.
I never know what I'm supposed to do. If I decide to make two heroes with strong armies, they both get screwed. If I try to focus on just one hero and make the others be like "scouts" or something, the computer seems to notice and completely screws me over.
I'm the worst fucking player of this shit on the planet.

>>714527368
>Ubishit doesn't care about their small IPs.
That might actually be a blessing.

>>714527207
Ubisoft owns the IP but they got another publisher.
I firmly believe it's because Ubisoft doesn't operate in Russia but releasing a HoMM game without Russia doesn't make financial sense (to surprise of no one the devs are mostly Russian immigrants)

>>714527427
You might be too slow at building up army. You have to rush as many dwellings as possible in the first week.

>>714498432 (OP)
>Slaps your gf's ass

>>714503570
>>714511597
Man that one Sandro mission where this cunt can show up on day 3 is probably the theoretical hardest mission I could think of. He has multiple casts of destroy undead by the way. Likely impossible if the AI wasn't dumb.

>>714516642
Yeah except when the AI decides to bumrush you with bullshit like pic related.
>throwaway scout
Maybe play on impossible where you start with 0 gold and 2500 gold is a significant investment. Pretty sure the only winnable strat for this map is to hope/restart until the AI randomly decides not to path towards you.

>>714524958
I never bothered with 3 and 4 since they seemed to drop everything I liked about 1 and amplified everything I disliked about 2/Shadow Magic. From what I've gleaned it seems like 1 is a much different game than the later entries and may as well be from a different series, but it's especially worth checking out if you like the pre-internet vision of fantasy.

>>714516503
Every game they made except og and crusader was mid at best, at least they are putting in new content

>>714531710
There were only two Stronghold games, leave it at that.

>>714505727
Griffins don't have swords.

>>714511440
>>714511742
I actually played AoW1 for the first time recently, it's fucking incredible. Back when I was young I only had a demo with 2 missions.

>>714531484
Will do after the summer, thanks.
Im assuming that its somewhat simplistic since its the first entry, is there a active mod scene for it?

god i love castle so much
those angels and archers
chef kiss

So how excited are people for olden era? It seems to be trying to ape exactly the homm3 style. do you guys think itll succeed?

>>714536552
HoMM3 is at least 50% the visuals and it's really dropping the ball there.

>>714536552
>Game gets delayed out of the blue
Never a good sign.
I hope you can at least disable this DoF bullshit.

>>714500834
Furiously difficult. Don't get why they have to always go full complete balls to walls impossible difficulty.

>>714537028
In what aspects, I havent seen much of Olden just a few screenshots.

>>714537294
DoF?

>>714538070
Depth of field AKA retarded blur.

What I dislike about the game is how large a percentage of it is always just mopping up the leftover.

>>714538521
I replayed it recently and i had this problem, if i was high skill i probably wouldn't have this problem but it was still annoying

Have a good evening HoMMies .

oh great elders I beg your council
how do I git gud at battles?

>>714509462
There's also Soldiers: Heroes of World War II, slav devs as well. The destruction physics is less detailed, but it has a lot of other physics interactions, for example you can burn the field with everyone in it.
It also got an update recently, like two decades after the release, they've added achievements, map editor, and a shitload of fixes.

the stench of russians is strong in this thread

>>714539570
WDYM?

>>714537494
don't click the impossible difficulty then?

>>714534312
I don't have much experience with them but I believe there are mods for balance and new units, though I may be thinking of things like race specific priests in 2. But it also has a huge custom map scene with everything from ballbusters to middle earth recreations, which is fortunate because it lacks the random map generator of homm. Pretty much everything related to this sort of stuff will be on age of wonders heaven, which has been the main fan site since it was new.

>>714539717
That's a bulgarian bottle and newspaper

>>714498432 (OP)
>HoMM3
Personal top 10 game for life. I've recently started to get into 'Conquest of Elysium 5' and it has that same spark to it - different, but similar.

whats the strats for taking big fights in week 2 and 3

most wandering stacks in level 3-6 tier have around 1000 combined HP pool. And if the stacks are shooters you're fucked

>>714539359
Compare the state of you and your enemies ranged and melee to decide whether to play offensively or defensively. Target fast creatures, creatures with high damage to health ratios, and creatures with annoying special abilities. Most creatures only retaliate once per round, so be tactical about who attacks what first. Having something very fast in your army so you get to cast the first spell is very important. Use the good cheap spells (blind, expert slow, and expert haste) every battle your ranged units can't otherwise win without losses, use whatever is best at the time with almost no regards for cost in actual battles. The really slow units are rarely worth building or bringing along.

For me, it's the HoMM mod for Mount and Blade Warband

>>714498432 (OP)
>day 1
>15,800 gp
>retire

>>714498432 (OP)
>Constantly see HoMM threads , looks comfy so I buy off gog.
>Play the game and discover like half the troops in the game are worthless.
>The best strat is using fast troops to kite slow troops so your range stack can just whittle them down.
>You mostly get troop replenishment once a week, you mostly just buy the good stuff and ignore the crap unless you got the money to buy everything anyways.
>Town upgrades are pretty one note and obvious, very easy to tell what upgrades are important especially when you figure out what troops are worth it.
>magic kind of hit and miss, Some good/great stuff but also alot of crap file. Mage tower also seemingly random.
>Sending your main guy out seems dangerous so its best just to send literally who's to pick up free shit while you slowly amass as stack and slowly get more towns.

I mean yeah the vibes of the game are immaculate but I don't know just seems kind of just ok I guess?

>>714542028
dont worry about optimal, & play your own game

once you start min maxing and learning to play against other players, you will never enjoy homm3 the same way

>>714513332
I like idea of Inferno and Necropolis being mixed into one faction but still prefer if they were separate or simply if there was more factions (this would fix no spawn faction issue too)

>>714537494
old games were like that

I think Heroes VI SUCKS

>>714511725
calm down tranny

HoMM enjoyers, what is your favorite buckwheat recipe?

>>714537494
What I've never gotten is people bitching that the hardest difficulty in a game is too hard. I'd understand if people complained that the second hardest isn't hard enough and the hardest too hard, but I rarely see that.

>>714545345
chicken heart buckwheat

>>714498432 (OP)
I really want to get into this game, but my brain is shit nowadays and it seems daunting to learn how to play it.

>>714542971
Yeah I kinda get that. Inferno and Necro both have strong themes, but they clash hard when forced together. Inferno's about demons and chaos, Necro's about death and control-it’d be like fusing fire and ice just because they’re both edgy. What I’d kill for is a proper “Doom” styled Inferno faction with real evil spellcasting synergy, separate from the skeleton spam simulator that is Necro. Just give me more factions in general, even if they’re jank. I want my weird desert cults and ocean druids, not just recolored castles.

Where we dropping boys?

>>714547736
Always necropolis.

Shout-out to Stronghold and Inferno as well.

Why does King's bounty have so much running around? It's "run around and search for the one enemy you can fuck through": the game.
Playing the one with the barely armored princess (and we want the volume of armor to go even lower if possible).

>>714547736
Conflux

>>714538521
a player without towns is eliminated after one week
>>714540762
depends
debuff magic can swing some fights
it's also a good idea to use stacks of a single weak unit to waste enemy counterattacks
>>714542028
>half the troops in the game are worthless
not true
quantity is quality

>>714547736
We're taking a route with a some chest hair.