Why did titanfall fail when apex succeeded?

>>714510669 (OP)
titanfall 2 lacked staying power
>guns were unbalanced as fuck
>abilities largely sucked except for stim and grapple
>gamemodes besides pilot vs pilot or the regular mode sucked so only those two modes had players
after you put like 50 hours into the game you've pretty much seen everything there is to do. Every match plays the same so after the novelty of the movement system wears off there just wasnt much to do. Want to play with hologram + shotgun? Too bad bro get fucking lazered by a CAR in .02ms. Want to git gud with the kraber? Too bad bro some guy with a CAR killed you from across the map before your sniper round could even hit him. Want to use a heavy machine gun? Too bad bro some guy with a CAR has a faster ttk and 99% of the lobby is running it so you die way sooner than him.

I legitimately think if they nerfed the CAR and the other submachine gun so they werent hitscan and had proper damage falloff like literally every other gun the game would have had more staying power.

>>714510669 (OP)
Mechs are too masculine.

>>714510669 (OP)
Is the story worth 5 bucks?

>>714511568
CAR wasnt that OP at release, didnt they basically nerf every rifle, but left SMGs OP as FUCK, and BAM - no point in using anything else than a CAR
TF2 was fucked by a shitty launch time, thats it
and then shitters got BTFO

oh and the control scheme on consoles is abysmal

>>714510669 (OP)
people play BR no matter how slop it is for some reason or they did when BR was the new hip thing where titanfall was just a more fun CoD with mechs that released either without a campaign at full price which people hated or between two of the biggest FPS releases in the year so no one played it

>>714511568
>guns were unbalanced as fuck
>perks sucked except a few
everyone sucks off Modern warfare 2 for this though

>>714512817
absolutely

its short if you are good, constantly introduces new shit, its basically a well paced action movie that you are inside of

>Apex
>succceed
It failed miserably, the game is dying.

>>714513763
It's been a while when I last watched a good action movie. I'll get it right away.

>>714514572
Searching it up.
>Apex Legends is generally considered a very successful free-to-play battle royale game, despite facing some challenges with player retention and competition from other games. It has generated significant revenue for EA, with over $3.4 billion earned to date. While it has seen fluctuations in its player base, it remains a popular title with a dedicated community and ongoing support from Respawn Entertainment.
Seems like a pretty big success.

>>714511568
lol you're terrible at video games fucking retard and bitch

>>714510669 (OP)
Any game that is made for 90 IQ subhumans will succeed because there are so many of them.

>>714515275
>If I simply deny that the game lacked gameplay variety then it doesnt exist

>>714510669 (OP)
>when Apex succeeded
Fuckin AI nigger I'll stick my dick in your router.

>>714511716
>he doesn't know

>>714510669 (OP)
Because Call of Duty released like 3 years of futuristic jetpack shooter and when TF2 released people were bored of this

>>714510669 (OP)
Titanfall was good and Apex is bad. That’s how.

>>714517137
turned into a jetpack for viper's asspull daughter :^)

>>714510669 (OP)
Poor management, from what I heard
That's besides the point that most publishers are out to lunch as far as 'good games.'
>Hi-fi Rush received critical acclaim
>Devs still got shuttered by Microsoft
>Microsoft just announced they're doing 'bretty gud'
>Still shit-canned and/or shuttered studios to appease investors

>>714511568
The CAR's dominance is overblown. It definitely needs a nerf and it's undoubtedly the best gun in the game, but the Alternator, R-97 and Spitfire aren't far behind it and are still viable. Shotguns, snipers and grenadier weapons have their own niche as well, and 1-shot kill guns like the Kraber, Wingman Elite and EPG are absolutely still viable in pubs.

>>714510669 (OP)
too niche
too hard for people to get into
released at the same time as a mainline BF entry
>>714513536
>everyone sucks off Modern warfare 2 for this though
people played MW2 when they were 9, had a blast with their friends because they were kids and playing video games in and of itself is fun and then jerk off the game for all eternity because they haven't played it since. Either that or they were exploit using fags who enjoyed pub stomping
same thing happened with old TF2

>>714510669 (OP)
softball my beloved

for me?
Its Ion in Frontier Defense +extend laser core with kills aegis upgrade.

>>714520578
nah I think crazy unbalanced shit is fun I think grapple in tf2 should have just been a baseline for everyone and you can add perks on top of that

>>714521698
>nah I think crazy unbalanced shit is fun
i dont think most people would agree, idk the specifics of ttf2 but (i was talking about team fortress in my post) but I think most people would rather have a game that's less annoying. MW2 is sort of balanced because there are so many busted things you can run but it leaves other styles of play completely out classed and you routinely get killed by exploitative bs

Took me 8 months of calling my zoomer teammates niggers and telling them to do drugs or kill themselves every match to get banned in Apex.

People are saying the guns aren't balanced when there are montages on Youtube of a guy stomping lobbies with pretty much every weapon. The problem is people used the OP guns and just mechanically sucked at the game so they never realized it's actually a pretty diverse arsenal, anything besides grapple or stim was definitely usually picked at your detriment though unless you were doing the bullshit HMG/shield build on console. As to why it failed, I think consumers are just retarded, the campaign was a blast and overperformed and the multiplayer was some of the most fun I had that year

cannot believe the automatic hitscan nigger apologia

>>714511568
Titanfall 2 would have been saved by making every weapon have slow projectiles like in Apex.

>>714511568
>after you put like 50 hours into the game you've pretty much seen everything there is to do.
Same case in CoD too but people still play those games for hours and hours for some reason.

>>714510669 (OP)
Because TF is just COD with big mechs and fast movement; everyone mindlessly zooms around the map and prays they can beam their opponent first.
Apex succeded by refining TF's gunplay and movement.

gee I wonder why

>>714530746
The COD DNA really is the worst part of that game.

>yes, this is fine

>>714530746
>play like a retard
>die
Wow

>>714531030
yes, it's retarded to try and move fast in the game retarded shills can't shut up about moving fast in

I just love how titan trannies always use CoD and BF1 as an excuse for the game failing
>EA pours millions into Titanfall's marketing to make it a CoD competitor
>Instant failure
>Apex releases with little to no marketing when Fortnite was at it's peak as a Battle royale
>Instant hit

>>714531171
>slingshotting into a camping corridor
yeah, you're a retard

>>714532380
oh boy it's almost like the maps are designed like fucking hallways with invisible walls that force you to run headfirst into hitscan niggers
kill yourself

>>714532691
if you want to keep feeding yourself to the woodchipper instead of doing something they're not expecting, like literally anything but flying down the corridor where they're aiming, go right ahead, dumbass

>>714525192
Literally the average Apex ranked teammate. Shrieking down their mic the whole match, no game sense, 200 damage max, and somehow still thinks he's the main character. Honestly surprised it took that long, Respawn's report system is the equivalent of a sticky note on a fridge.

>>714535321
yes I'll fly down one of the other two corridors instead
nigger

>>714537540
Literally all you had to do was avoid sight lines by wall running down here and bouncing between the buildings + monorail.

Moving without staying aware of what’s around you is still a death sentence in Titanfall. You can’t just “go fat” and expect good results